d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 1 弱版的 扔球都是一样烂 只是krenzel脑子较好使 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 2 你们buckeye扇子呀，说说了你们坏话，就认为谁不好，kerbie, Krenzel。看看Krenzel
场上场下的achievemnet都不错，不但拿了MVP，还是academic all american，拿了学
习无数奖项。别人看不过眼JT胡作非为，说了两句，要知道忠言逆耳，JT本来就是个伪
君子，他不配代表你们。当年就是Krenzel打破OSU连败我密的纪录的。 |
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t****t
发帖数: 530 | 3 Miami的饭就别吵吵那个passing interferece了
我也觉得是个bad call,
但是要不是regular time还两分钟的时候
Miami的一个passing interferece没吹哪还有这事, 早歇菜了
另外我也承认OSU的进攻sucks, 没看到QB拿到球就想着裸奔的
但这个QB关键时刻made big play, built tough both mentally and physically
Miami的QB牛, 几个TO还敢扔, 弄了近300YDs, passing确实锋利, 要换了其他
队还真可能丁不住. 有点象Colts的manning, 就是TO也要扔, 不知真是mentally tough
还是欺负OSU攻击力不行. 当然他physically就比不得Krenzel了
说到D, 当然OSU的强, 也有运气成分在, 比如Krenzel被INT后又立刻抢回来, Miami
最后有一个长传接稳了马上fumble, 简直就是太戏剧化了, (小声说一句, 运气还是
建立在实力的基础上)
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s****y
发帖数: 958 | 4 回头看OSU今年的比赛。
第一点，就能看到MoC的禁赛对OSU的影响有多大。之前的plan都是围绕着MoC而设计的。
以至于一旦没有了MoC就不知道该怎么打了。这方面offensive coordinator 是有责任的
。
而且可以看到OSU还是有play maker的。今年的passing game 要比去年好。Craig
krenzl扔出来的球还是比去年的好一些。去年的球是，WR 和 CB都不好接。（所以int比
较少：））所以去年能拿NC很多程度上MoC分担了很多。看看去年那几场非常close的game
。
好几场是因为MoC没法上场，@Cincinati, VS PSU, @Purdue, @Illinois。
昨天的比赛，还有wisconsin的比赛能看出JT非常保守。明显这两场如果scott mcmullen
上的话，会比craig krenzel好一些。昨天那场mcmullen一个drive 没打过就被jt换下去
了。当然那个drive很重要，如果打过了比赛可能就另外一个结果。但是后两次position
的时候也是还有机会的，但krenzel也没有打过去。我觉得在打pa |
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w********c
发帖数: 2632 | 5 Craig Krenzel is quite niu x mah.
2003 CoSIDA ACADEMIC ALL-AMERICA® FOOTBALL TEAM (University Division)
First-Team Offense
NAME SCHOOL POSITION YR. HOMETOWN GPA MAJOR
Craig Krenzel ** Ohio State Quarterback Sr. Sterling Heights, Mich. 3.68
Molecular Genetics
Kyler Randall Eastern Washington Wide Receiver Sr. Ferndale, Wash. 3.88 Social
Studies
John Standeford Purdue Wide Receiver Sr. Monrovia, Ind. 3.65 Elementary
Education
John Frieser Colgate Tight End Sr. Endwell, N.Y. 3.69 Sociology & An |
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s*********e
发帖数: 399 | 6 整体上应该还比较乐观
RB比去年有很大提高,主要是DEPTH上的提高,这非常重要
另外MLB位置上终于有保障了,MLB的位置是去年FRONT SEVEN唯一的弱点,因为DEPTH
CHART上没有MLB的人,主力一伤,没有替补上(替补都是TRANSFER,必须SIT
OUT),去年对MICHIGAN,主力MLB受伤,结果就是RUSHING DEF 崩溃.
今年的DEEP 2,两个都是PROVED PLAYER,没有问题.
DEF LINE,情况看起来不错,应该不比去年差多少.
O LINE,目前看起来问题还是有的,不过呢,现在的DEATH
CHART比以前可好多了,可以排出DEEP 3(大概有15个O LINE), 去年每个位置上只有两个人
,相对比较吃力.
QB,目前我人为ZWICK基本可以和KRENZEL差不多, KRENZEL的关键在于可以扔4TH AND 14,
这中心理素质不是教练能培养的,我也不指望ZWICK能做到了,不过我看反错误还比较少,如
果能COMP 60%的话,PASSING GAME就应该有很不错的成绩了.
RECEIVER还没有人能站出来,除了HOLMES,其 |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 7 当年tOSU是大大的下狗：
客场
名不见经传的从D-IAA上来的新教练
已经输了四场比赛
首发四分卫被JT停赛，大二QB Craig Krenzel第二场首发。
UM只输了两场，都是客场，一共输了7分。rank 11 in the country,
tied for #1 in B10.
比赛：
天雨手滑。
Michael Doss picked off John Navarre twice.
Jonathan Wells ran wild with 3 TDs.
Krenzel was ultra conservative in the sec ond half with a 23-0 lead
and finally won with a score of 26-20.
See highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l52lDVpREg
本场比赛的英雄：Wells |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 8 我不太待见krenzel主要是他对JT不太友好。另外，赢球主要还是其他人的功劳，krenz
el只是个game manager.
Troy Smith是多年来我丐不可多得的一个比较好的QB, 能跑能传，长得也忠厚老实，有
大将之风。估计就joe germaine比他传的好一点。
TP就比较狡猾一点。另外传球毕竟太差，大约和krenzel一个档次。当然3个里面他跑的
最快。
个人成就来说，还是TS>CK>TP (heisman > nc mvp > bcs mvp)
我丐球迷一边倒全部选TS，this is a no brainer |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 9 我没认为herbie不好啊。我觉得他说的没问题，作为记者必须中立。我是说他和个小孩
网上打嘴仗比较无聊。Krenzel不是因为说我们坏话，只是觉得对JT/OSU没有太多什么感
情而已，不是很喜欢。
Krenzel |
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B****N
发帖数: 440 | 10 其实米勒再差也比当年的krenzel强。krenzel应该是最差的一个吧，但人品好，拿了冠
军。所以还是防守是王道。 |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 11 和lex打赌，谁的队输了要诚心诚意地写一篇怕对方马匹的文章，并且至少转4篇。最初我
提出10篇，lex回说20，后来breeze为了避免大家bored，提出5 篇，其中至少一篇原创。
我先把这5篇放在这里，如果lex认为不够的话，可以要求一下人一两种：1、继续转15篇
到本版；2、转15篇到Michigan版。
首先，我认为这是UM本赛季目前为止打得最好的比赛。赢UMN固然不错，但是come back
win的比赛终究不是完胜，本场比赛可谓完胜。
赛前准备，从比赛过程来看，双方对进行了精心的准备。UM显然仔细分析了两个队的情况
，吸取了前面球队一条腿打OSU无法取胜的教训，坚决rushing and passing两手抓。同时
提高了special team的准备。OSU仍然是以D为主，拚field position。
比赛过程：OSU 3 and out并不出人意外。意外是UM似乎找到了克制OSU rushing D的秘方
，前两节迅速把比分拉大到了21：0。迫使Buckeyes respond。当然Tressel和Krenzel也
不是吃素的，改变了保守的作风，在第一节结束前前进> |
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发帖数: 2 | 12 1. Maurice Clarett
Running Back | #13 | Freshman | Roster
Age: 19
Height: 6-0
Weight: 230 lbs.
2. Craig Krenzel
Quarterback | #16 | Junior | Roster
Age: 21
Height: 6-4
Weight: 215 lbs.
Hometown: Utica, MI
3. Michael Jenkins
Wide Receiver | #12 | Junior | Roster
Age: 20
Height: 6-5
Weight: 200 lbs.
Hometown: Tampa, FL
4. Chris Gamble
Wide Receiver | #7 | Sophomore | Roster
Age: 19
Height: 6-2
Weight: 180 lbs.
Hometown: Sunrise, FL
5. Mike Doss
Height:5-11
weight: 204lbs |
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B**i
发帖数: 38 | 13 【 以下文字转载自 NCAA 讨论区 】
【 原文由 restless 所发表 】
02赛季就太多风雨了: maurice事件对both recruiting和performance的影响自不必说。
The team showed great resiliance against adversity and almost pulled out
another perfect season against all odds. 两场失利令人心碎，but nothing to
blame though. The team did its' best. 但重回desert craig的谢幕表演令人荡气回
肠，同时也给big-10挽回了一些被以Wolverines为首的丢光了的面子。 ^_^
关于krenzel我也有很多体会，he is a winner and great guy。不过今天太晚了，以后
再说吧。 |
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b****e
发帖数: 1275 | 14 1. Where to rate this game?
Since this game just happened, some are going to start to call this the
greatest game ever. It just might be. The 1984 Miami win over Nebraska in the
Orange Bowl and the 1971 Nebraska win over Oklahoma might still have been
better games, but for sheer drama, great plays and historical performances,
this one probably can't be beaten. From Maurice Clarett's strip of Sean
Taylor, Craig Krenzel's clutch play, the controversial pass interference call,
the field goal just t |
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 15 veteran quarterback Craig Krenzel and rookie tight end Ryan Hamby were r
eleased. |
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b****e
发帖数: 1275 | 16 not everyone can make it big in NFL. anyway, sooner or later this day will
come. maybe it's good that it came early. craig krenzel already made his money
and can now focus on becoming an MD (maybe try a few other clubs before
regular season, if still no takers, go back to school)
as to ryan hamby, too bad he couldn't make it. life goes on. actually, our
previous TE, ben hartsock that got drafted by the colts in 3rd round, i don't
think he's seen the field much either, if at all. now the NFL is i |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 17 "By the way, the league just got a little dumber, as the Bengals waived
quarterback Craig Krenzel who majored in molecular genetics and other things
we can't say'. |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 18 he's just not an NFL QB. don't be misled by the 4-1 record,
even Craig Krenzel started 3-0 at Chicago bears. |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 19 2003 Fiesta Bowl Ohio State 31 ... Miami 24 2 OT
1. Where to rate this game?
Since this game just happened, some are going to start to call this the grea
test game ever. It just might be. The 1984 Miami win over Nebraska in the Or
ange Bowl and the 1971 Nebraska win over Oklahoma might still have been bett
er games, but for sheer drama, great plays and historical performances, this
one probably can't be beaten. From Maurice Clarett's strip of Sean Taylor,
Craig Krenzel's clutch play, the contro |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 20 2003 Fiesta Bowl Ohio State 31 ... Miami 24 2 OT
1. Where to rate this game?
Since this game just happened, some are going to start to call this the grea
test game ever. It just might be. The 1984 Miami win over Nebraska in the Or
ange Bowl and the 1971 Nebraska win over Oklahoma might still have been bett
er games, but for sheer drama, great plays and historical performances, this
one probably can't be beaten. From Maurice Clarett's strip of Sean Taylor,
Craig Krenzel's clutch play, the contro |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 21 2003 Fiesta Bowl Ohio State 31 ... Miami 24 2 OT
1. Where to rate this game?
Since this game just happened, some are going to start to call this the grea
test game ever. It just might be. The 1984 Miami win over Nebraska in the Or
ange Bowl and the 1971 Nebraska win over Oklahoma might still have been bett
er games, but for sheer drama, great plays and historical performances, this
one probably can't be beaten. From Maurice Clarett's strip of Sean Taylor,
Craig Krenzel's clutch play, the contro |
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发帖数: 399 | 22 for the scarlet and grey QB from Michigan
"He puts the ball in an area where me or nobody is going to get it," wide
receiver Michael Jenkins said.
The Ohio State offense may put more Buckeye students asleep than their econ
professors, and quarterback Craig Krenzel may have the kind of star quality
that screams Weather Channel. But there's a funny thing about the Buckeyes:
they score more points than the other team. That's not merely because the Ohio
State defense has allowed only four rushing to |
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l*x
发帖数: 31 | 23 首先，这场第一百次比赛实在是没有让人失望，两个队基本上没什么turnover，虽然Mich
igan totally
dominated，won by two TDs, 不过居然buckeyes还是看起来不是很服气，拿了一堆if,
如果我们也有那么多if，前两年就根本不会输了，特别是前年。
先说说Gamble吧，overrated，什么最好的cornerback，看看明年选秀就知道了
，关键的时候不能make difference, 对badgers, 上场对purdue，到这场居然大打出手，
跟Boston这个loser一样。不过，OSU就指望Gamble的态度来决定比赛是十分可笑的，看看
michigan的receiving corp, edwards, breaston, tabb, perry，还有被buckeyes无耻搞
下去的Avant, 明星太多了，Gamble看得过来么？他又远没有Charles Woodson牛。
再说说Krenzel，他的所谓完美表现都是拜UM的conservative defense plan所赐。他其实
根本没你想象得那么牛。几乎从来没有被我们b |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 24 和lex打赌，谁的队输了要诚心诚意地写一篇怕对方马匹的文章，并且至少转4篇。最初我
提出10篇，lex回说20，后来breeze为了避免大家bored，提出5 篇，其中至少一篇原创。
我先把这5篇放在这里，如果lex认为不够的话，可以要求一下人一两种：1、继续转15篇
到本版；2、转15篇到Michigan版。
首先，我认为这是UM本赛季目前为止打得最好的比赛。赢UMN固然不错，但是come back
win的比赛终究不是完胜，本场比赛可谓完胜。
赛前准备，从比赛过程来看，双方对进行了精心的准备。UM显然仔细分析了两个队的情况
，吸取了前面球队一条腿打OSU无法取胜的教训，坚决rushing and passing两手抓。同时
提高了special team的准备。OSU仍然是以D为主，拚field position。
比赛过程：OSU 3 and out并不出人意外。意外是UM似乎找到了克制OSU rushing D的秘方
，前两节迅速把比分拉大到了21：0。迫使Buckeyes respond。当然Tressel和Krenzel也
不是吃素的，改变了保守的作风，在第一节结束前前进> |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 25 03赛季就太多风雨了: maurice事件对both recruiting和performance的影响自不必说。
The team showed great resiliance against adversity and almost pulled out
another perfect season against all odds. 两场失利令人心碎，but nothing to
blame though. The team did its' best. 但重回desert craig的谢幕表演令人荡气回
肠，同时也给big-10挽回了一些被以Wolverines为首的丢光了的面子。 ^_^
关于krenzel我也有很多体会，he is a winner and great guy。不过今天太晚了，以后
再说吧。 |
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s*********e
发帖数: 399 | 26 哎, 好多场都记不太清楚了,不过其实02确实太MAGIC了
HOLY BUCKEYE,
大致描述一下我第一场全场观看OSU
OSU @ PURDUE
PURDUE典型VET DEF TEAM.
OSU没有MAURICE, 进攻就不用多说.赛前,媒体又是那些OSU NO CHANCE .BLAH BLAH...
打起来, 确实艰苦.双方都极其TOUGH.可以说比赛又很BORING,不停的PUNT来PUNT去
一直到最后一个QUARTER还剩一分39秒. ABC上显示的仍然是
OSU 3 , PURDUE 6 LOSING
连带我入门的老兄弟都说, 行, 这下全国冠军的梦也就醒了.
HOLY BUCKEYE
OSU 进攻到PURDUE 39 YARD,3次进攻拿到9YARD. 4TH &1, 于是开始抉择.选择4TH DOWN
如果4TH DOWN 失败, 就没有什么其他的结果了.
不过我们又没有MAURICE ,1 码 , 也就一步, 却如此的遥远.
HOLY BUCKEYE
SIGNAL FROM KRENZEL,
PASS ACTION, ROSS佯装TAKE THE BALL , |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 27 1. This is more like a scrimmage than a real game.
I mean players are playing hard, but they don't have that
kind of 'I'll beat/kill you' attitude.
2. Todd Boeckman makes good decisions and throws. But I don't
think he is the next Krenzel altho he is a better thrower.
Hope he proves me wrong.
3. JT显然在尝试不同的组合。不同于一般的第一梯队，第二梯队，
第三梯队这种换人，更多的是在某些关键位置换上一些新人，看这些人的表现。
4. Best play: Brandon Saine那个不算的TD run.
5. Henton上场了。我对他的期望比较高。目前仍了两个，both on target. |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 28 This is the magic year.
Super freshman Maurice Clarret made the offense looked unstoppable.
When he was missing, the D and special team always kept the team in the game
and waiting for Krenzel to do his magic.
tOSU entered the game with 12-0 perfect record, #2 ranking, at home
UM lost twice, to ND and Iowa
MoC有伤，好在D played strong , only allowed 3 FGs.
With critical help from MoC on two TD drives, tOSU won 14-9.
Indisputable hero in this game: MoC
说起MoC，such a heart-breaking story and waste of ta |
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r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 30 大本当年队里的QB是教练的儿子，所以直到senior year该人走了之后才有机会打
QB，所以很多人不知道他。tOSU当时招的是Craig Krenzel，也拿了NC，
虽然作为QB很差。 |
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p*****c
发帖数: 1506 | 31 记不太清了，我觉得我们当年那个聪明qb krenzel 好像干过类似的
搞, |
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D*****o
发帖数: 286 | 32 The toledo area traditionally belongs to Michigan Territory.
OSU also got a lot of talents from Michigan. I believe Krenzel is from
michigan. Don't know how many people know this guy. |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 33 这个估计是少数吧。craig krenzel这样的。大部分的穷人黑孩子出身的，估计都是混
混学习，GPA不要不够被suspend就好 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 34 近10年来的，可以综合考虑，on and off the field都行。
1. Craig Krenzel，帮助赢了NC,两次BCS bowl MVP
2. Troy Smith, 害死人得主。
3. TP, 帮OSU赢了2个 BCS bowl game。
大家选一个。 |
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w********s
发帖数: 39 | 35 Troy Smith.
场外遇见过Krenzel和Smith.Smith真是一点不张扬。 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 36 我还以为大家都选Krenzel呢，怎么算Ｃｈａｍｐｉｏｎ ＱＢ，哈哈。看来真的新新球迷。 |
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m********n
发帖数: 953 | 38
Krenzel
只败了两场（99，00）还不算啥连败记录吧。你们最近那个才算得上连败记录呢。 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 39 he was great the first year, but when NFL teams consider him,
they have to consider his RECENT history. what's his record in the past 2-3
years? probably not as impressives as the 5 year stat. Someone may give him
a chance as a backup but I don't see any surprises - he doesn't seem to have
the leadership that I thought he had while in texas.
at this point, RB > VY >> ML
also, win/loss can be overrated because you win as a team. Even craig
krenzel won his first 4 or 5 games as a chicago bear, DES... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3119 | 40 http://cuswordsblog.com/2011/06/09/on-a-five-star-flameout/
The blueprint was so clear, wasn’t it?
Terrelle Pryor would come to Ohio, learn to follow Jim Tressel’s virtues on
and off the field, then leave a star
with the world at his fingertips.
Terrelle Pryor (right, with Corey Brown)
Michigan had the offense that was more appropriate (so it seemed then) and
the depth chart was more
friendly for the player that he was at the moment. Yet he chose Ohio for the
player he wanted to be. He
could hav... 阅读全帖 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 41 他们那个QB挺烂的。我觉得拿NC希望不大。刚写完这句突然想起craig krenzel这样的烂
QB一样拿了NC. 呵呵
Fulmer |
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W********s
发帖数: 2256 | 42 Craig Krenzel的GPA高，并且还是学的正经专业。他弟弟也是又专又红，毕业于医学院。
的烂 |
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u****d
发帖数: 23938 | 43 Craig Krenzel当年也拿到了OSU医学院的offer.
院。 |
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发帖数: 4402 | 47 不可爱还要搞这种急功近利的QB?绝对是死路一条。看看铁匠到现在。上次夺冠的QB是
谁？Craig Krenzel, 人家跑吗？QB就是要扔球给球。偶尔跑一下就可以了。QB自己代
替RB? NFL里面没有成功的，NCAA里面也没有很成功的。QB不扔球不传球就是不务正业。 |
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w**d
发帖数: 1476 | 48 这一看就是上次我盖夺冠时还在中/小学的。。。年轻啊。看过那个赛季比赛的没谁忘
得了 Craig Krenzel。。。冠军赛时那哥们被sack了多少次啊，hard hit了n次，估计
最后迈阿密sack他都快sack累了，这哥们跟没事似的，太塔夫了。 |
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发帖数: 2155 | 49 看JT第一场对Indiana的表现如何吧。JT毕竟是Battle tested。Joe和Haskins都不错，
比Antonio Henten强。但是被们森巴马狮子黄鼠狼这些球队如狼似虎的DL大汉撞个几次
之后是不是还能扔去好球来谁也不知道。
Craig Krenzel那个球扔得个个像受伤的鸭子，几乎每个都是赌，不是也不错。
Braxton NB起来扔的球子弹一样，又快又准，但是也不完美。
说不出来为什么，JT，BM，CK这几个放在一起，我对JT最放心，甚至比TS还放心。
夺冠这种事情，还真不是一个人说了算的，得刚刚好。
我觉得JT is more than adequate for an NC，不会成为liability。
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发帖数: 2155 | 50 现在就看Wilson和Day有没有点石成金的功夫了。
JT的toughness和Football intelligence是够的，和TS早期还有Krenzel类似，但是扔
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