a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 1 我一个已经毕业的德国同学发表了一句关于达赖的话，我发表了评论，说西方媒体在西
藏问题上不公
平造成他们的错误印象，然后他的一个朋友看了不爽，我们开始辩论。我觉得最终她说
不下去了，选
择放弃。如果各位能够忍着看完这段裹脚布，欢迎评论和指点。
以下是记录：
A(德国同学): wishes the Dalai Lama could return to Tibet and put an end to
the cultural genocide of his country.
我：i have to say you are entirely wrong on this. in short, dalai lama
was one of the worst human rights violators in recent history before
1950, which is not entirely his fault since he was born into a bad
system.
china's ethnic policies are not nearly perfect by |
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c******c
发帖数: 418 | 2 "Formally" Tibetan and Chinese share the same nationality, but this doesn't
mean we share the same culture. They believe dalai lama is their God and
control their afterlife, do you believe this too? For people with this kind
of belief, do you really think they will believe dalai lama is "trying to
split the country"?
To be honest, I don't really care what the Chinese gov. did in Tibet. The
government can force their own agenda to Tibetans, but just don't pretend
you are saving them "from slavery |
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发帖数: 2136 | 3 TG近来有该守为攻之趋势，巴马MAY从长计议暂缓出牌
China warns Obama about Dalai Lama, citing Lincoln on slavery
Thu Nov 12, 2009
BEIJING (Reuters) - A Chinese government spokesman said Barack Obama should
be especially sympathetic to China's opposition to the Dalai Lama and
Tibetan independence, as a black president who lauded Abraham Lincoln for
helping abolish slavery.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang made the comments at a news
conference on Thursday, four days before Obama arrives in China for a summit |
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 5 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: mandman (满老), 信区: Military
标 题: 白宫宣布，达赖本月访问白宫
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 4 16:18:06 2010, 美东)
Finally, comes the news.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100204/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_dalai_lama
Dalai Lama to meet Obama at White House this month
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama will welcome the Dalai Lama to the
White House this month for a meeting sure to enflame tensions between China
and the U.S.
Thursday's announcement from the White House, which had long been expe |
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发帖数: 104 | 6 here is some help @http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/pomfretschina/2008/04/tibet_wont_move_china_but_taiw.html
Remember WMD in the Iraq war? Tibet, another lie from the western media.
The so-called "free media" never have the courage to report a simple fact:
90% of Tibetans were serfs and slaves in Tibet under Dalai Lama. It was the
Communist Chinese Army who liberated Tibet from the brutal theocracy serfdom
rule of Dalai Lama and the upper class monks. The liberation of Tibet by
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发帖数: 268 | 7 From http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,251042,00.html
5月30日达赖喇嘛访问了柏林，并进行了一次演说。我看了明镜周刊的报道和评论，可惜
没功夫翻译了，就用网上翻译器翻译如下，可笑之极，hey, don't just be joking, Ms.
Allmandring! 让我也想起来原来Gesund同学推荐的Mark Twain用英语词汇、德语语法写
就的那篇戏谑之作。
最关键的地方，达赖喇嘛说，人生最重要的是Froehlichkeit，没翻译过来，这个词是快
乐的意思。
In English:
Dalai Lama superstar catholic and protestanten want to strengthen with the
church conference in Berlin their faith in Jesus Christ. But the star of the
daily with the Christian meeting was a Buddhist: the Dalai Lama. A |
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b*******9
发帖数: 3 | 8 时间 5月19日 14：00－18：00
地点：Platz der Republik 国会大厦门前
组织发起者：楚天怵
联系电话 01702786319
邮件：c*****[email protected]
需要有照相机和摄像机的同学数名。
5月19日抗议达赖具体安排
我们519组委会今天最终敲定了抗议的具体方案
开始时间为下午2点， 首先是签名活动。我们准备好了白布和签名笔。
达赖喇嘛的车队到达议员办公楼的时间是3点。3点半和他邀请的议员会谈。我们就在议
员们的窗户下开始抗议。
抗议内容是15点到18点抗议的形式：演讲，唱歌，哑剧。
抗议的口号如下
达赖的自治 ＝ 种族隔离！Die Autonomie Dalai Lamas = Rassentrennung!
达赖，请只以一个僧侣的身份回国！Dalai Lama, zu Hause , aber nur als Mö
nch!
废除政教合一Schaffe bitte die Theokratie ab!
汉藏一家，同心抗灾！Han und Tibeter gehören zur selben Familie –
Gemei |
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y******n
发帖数: 155 | 9 Who ever is taking this seriously is out of his mind.
In 1989, the year where 刘晓波 spends his wonderful time at the Square,
was the same year Dalai Lama got his nobel PEACE prize.
http://www.infowars.com/the-role-of-the-cia-behind-the-dalai-lamas-holy-
cloak/
刘晓波 is being PAID by folks on the E Street for his daily expense. The
guy doesn't have a job, he has to at least feed himself. |
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a***d
发帖数: 685 | 10 我觉得还不错啦。挺好的。 应该多介绍美国人去看，
我们只需要指出：
１。“Nearly 40 years later, the exile administration acknowledged that it
had received $1.7 million a year in funding from the American CIA during the
1960s.
The funding was part of the CIA's secret program to undermine communist
governments, especially in China and the former Soviet Union. A yearly
subsidy of $180,000 was earmarked for the Dalai Lama,”
Q:Is this makes Dalai Lama a paid CIA agent? If say yes, then all his claims
questionable. If say no, then what |
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x**s
发帖数: 1085 | 13 我门需要争取这些人。
不少人是带着崇敬他的心情去看他，如果对他很直接的人身攻击，而这些人并不了解背
后的真相，对我们的集会反而会造成副作用，更帮了dalai lama一把忙。
http://buddhism.meetup.com/539/boards/thread/3929403/0/
看看其中一个佛教信徒的帖子：
I wonder if he will say anything about the situation in China. The Chinese
people I converse with on other boards are all up in arms, saying China has
always owned Tibet, that HH was installed by the Chinese Army, and that
Tibet has no right to ask for independnce.
Funny, the Dalai Lama hasn't asked for independence, just greater autonomy |
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x**s
发帖数: 1085 | 14 就是独立。Republic的定义：
A republic is a state or country that is not led by a hereditary monarch,
where the people of that state or country (or at least a part of that people
) have impact on its government,[4] and that is usually indicated as a
republic.
具有讽刺意义的是Monarch的定义：
the word monarch in modern usage almost always refers to a traditional
system of hereditary rulership
而喇嘛教控制着西藏恰恰符合这个monarch的定义。我们可以
The Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama, both of the Gelugpa lineage of Tibetan
Buddhism, are at the |
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i****e
发帖数: 38 | 15 我是UWisconsin Madison的
来凑个热闹
这是去年达赖在我校公众演讲的节选
达赖在这次演讲里 公开说了不是invasion而是peaceful liberation
可以节选一些 做为against媒体整天说tibet被侵略的证据
Attachment: paragraphs extracted from Dalai Lama's speech in Uinv of
Wisconsin
(I am not a fan of Dalai Lama so I am not posting his words here to support
him. The whole point I am trying to make is that: For those Tibet-
independence-supporters, isn't it ironic that you guys are jumping up and
down like crazy whereas your "beloved spiritual leader" does not call it "
invasi |
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i*****p
发帖数: 3 | 16 要多少有多少， 再缺的话去 SanFran版里去找一找，
1."2 4 6 8, Dalai Lama is anti-gay!" ...SF, 想想作用．
2."Hell no We won't Go, Tibet is Free and you should roll".
3.他们喊＂FREE TIBET",你喊＂FREE YOUR MIND!" , "GET A LIFE"
4."Tibetan Youth Congress, tell the truth! How much did you pay for TRUTH!"
5.""Hey Hey Let's go, China is one and you should go!"
6. "What Do we Want!", "ONe China!" , "What are we Gonna Do!" "Fight For it!"
7. "1 2 3 4, Dalai Lama is a Crone!
8. "Dalai Crier! Shameless Lier! ",
9. "Dalai Lier! Shameless C |
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发帖数: 1254 | 17 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/SanFrancisco/31316630_0_1.htm
本来想转贴得，但是有附件不行。觉得老人列举出的条款都很有针对性地。第4页有一
位老兄把板子上的内容打出来了，我们可以借来用一用啊：
如下：
牌子上写的东西，刚花了10分钟打的
I, God's decoder, look down on the Dalai Lama!
Dalai Lama = lair + evil.abettor. Historical facts:
1. He supports Bush's war (killing people) in Afghanistan. He didn't even
know that, failing to get permission for oil pipelines, Bush even threatened
to wipe out Afg. ong before 9/11 ever happened
2. tacitly supports Bush's one-million-death war in |
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t*******n
发帖数: 417 | 18 【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: thirddown (人在天涯), 信区: Seattle
标 题: Re: 达赖抬头看咱们的飞机了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 12 23:53:32 2008)
From PI
The Dalai Lama seems to be looking up at a small airplane circling Qwest
field with a sign reading "Dalai Lama Pls Stop Supporting Riots!"
(April 12, 2008)
Grant M. Haller/Seattle Post-Intelligencer |
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c***t
发帖数: 17 | 20 Dalai Lama, show your compassion to innocent lifes lost in riots!
Dalai Lama, stop being a politician! |
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发帖数: 47 | 21 Followers await Dalai Lama's Mich. arrival with excitement
By JEFF KAROUB
Associated Press Writer
Advertisement
DETROIT (AP) -- John Madison, who describes himself as a "devoted student"
of Tibetan Buddhism, is excited to see the Dalai Lama this weekend.
But he's concerned the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader's visit to Ann Arbor
and his message of nonviolence might fight for attention with recent unrest
in Tibet, as well as the protests that have followed the Olympic torch's
passage to China.
"I |
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d********y
发帖数: 176 | 22 communication is the key.
Shoko Asahara (麻原 彰晃, friend of Dalai Lama， master mind behind Sarin
gas attack on the Tokyo subway in 1995).
Dorje Shugden (another deity in Tibet that Dalai Lama forbid Tibetan to
worship).
Caste system, serfdom (the slavery system in Tibet)
Shan·gri–la |
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i*******r
发帖数: 1064 | 23 http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080421/NEWS01/804210357
ANN ARBOR - A senior U.S. State Department official says her meeting in Ann
Arbor with the Dalai Lama
offers a timely opportunity to discuss recent conflicts in Tibet.
Undersecretary of State Paula Dobriansky and the exiled Tibetan spiritual
leader spoke briefly to reporters
this morning before privately meeting to talk about China's crackdown on
anti-Beijing protests in Tibet.
The Dalai Lama expressed his ap |
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 24 Nyingma Palyul Dharma Center is honor to host
Do Rinpoche
Do Rinpoche Shedrub Pal Yeshe Tenpai Gyeltsen is the sixth incarnation of
Rigsey Sherab Mebar, one of the emanations of Dodrup Kunzang Zhenphen, a
renowned student of the Omniscient Jigme Lingpa. He was born in Washul Mewa,
in lower Kham. Although it was winter, five colored light filled the sky
and immediately after being born the child chanted the Mani mantra with ... 阅读全帖 |
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d***y
发帖数: 263 | 25 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
canghu (fish) 于 (Tue Apr 8 00:01:34 2008) 提到:
我来抛个砖：
1: Dalai Lama
Stop Lying
2: Dalai Lama
Don't Mess Up the Olympics
3: Give Olympics A Chance
4. Bravo China
...
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thread24 (th) 于 (Tue Apr 8 00:05:03 2008) 提到:
Dalai is Bin Laden
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thread24 (th) 于 (Tue Apr 8 00:05:06 2008) 提到:
Dalai is Bin Laden
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d****r
发帖数: 48 | 26 可能有朋友说过了，不过我看了好多biased的新闻报道后，决定运用俺在MBA学的一点
Marketing知识提点建议：
(1) 由于是给世界人民(Target Market)看，那么要用大大的英文，中文的可以小些
(2) 直接写明是Support Beijing Olympic, 或者Olymic No Politics，之类的. 写
Support更好，因为我看到好多报
道登了同学们的打红旗照片，然后注释是"Protestors" -- 不明真相的人还以为我们打
着红旗在抗议中国呢。要是我
明确写Support China/Beijing Olympic在横幅上, 我看他们还怎么来误导群众 （
Clear Message)
(3) 就是那个Liar的事，要说谁是Liar, 集中火力说CNN is Liar或者Dalai Lama is
Liar（这个最有用）,而且要分开
喊，一组喊Dalai Lama, 另一组喊Liar. 就算有老美支持ZD的，也会想想为什么有这么
多有文化的人会这样. 举个不
恰当的例子，大腕里说“假的说的多了，也就成了真的”，ZD不就是这么干的么？咱们
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H****H
发帖数: 11039 | 27 正宗高大上的牛仔靴可是讲究美国手工生产的，德州的牌子有Tony Lama，rios of
mercedes，lucchese等等，差不多四百美元一双。
Tony lama 有一条生产线放在中国生产中低端产品，价格两百美元左右。
我刚给全家每人搞了双手工靴，大人的能穿一辈子。女儿的是墨西哥生产的，便宜，因
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g**y
发帖数: 983 | 30 【 以下文字转载自 Canada 讨论区,原文如下 】
发信人: grey (过热眼), 信区: Canada
标 题: haha, Go Dalai Go
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Thu Apr 29 10:21:29 2004) WWW-POST
Dalai Lama brings Flyers no luck
To the Sports Illustrated jinx, walking under ladders, the Curse of the
Bambino, broken mirrors, Muldoon's Curse, black cats and the Hope diamond, add
the Dalai Lama. There Ken Hitchcock was Wednesday, cruising along with his
Philadelphia Flyers holding a two-game lead over the Toronto Maple Leafs in
their Stanley Cup Playo |
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x******y
发帖数: 6946 | 32 我不懂法语， 不过我似乎听懂了歌中的倾诉
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Fabian
...In January 1995, Serge Lama requested that Fabian join him on the stage of the Paris venue Palais des Congrès to perform "Je suis malade", which she had recorded on Carpe diem. Impressed by the audience's response to their duet, Lama immediately asked Fabian to sing the song once more on her own, this delighted the audience.
哪位有类似风格的， 不管哪位歌手的， 请转告我。 谢谢 |
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发帖数: 1184 | 33 Will China stay on course?
By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Events in the Middle East and North Africa are of historic importance, but
the even bigger, long-term story is the rise of China. What path will it
choose at home and abroad in the years ahead?
For decades there has been debate at the highest levels of the Chinese
government about how much to modernize politically to ensure growth and
stave off revolution.
It’s notoriously difficult to analyze the inner workings off the Chinese
Communist Party. ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 instead of DaLai lama, should change name to XiaoBo lama? |
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l*********l
发帖数: 830 | 36 各种各样的社会制度都可以说是与当时生产力水平相适应的一种社会形态,都有自己的
社会次序,遵守它就没事,国际次序也是一样,不然就没有世界大战了...
关于土地,美国印第安部落欲哭无门啊,关于奴隶制,获得自由的美国黑人当然高兴了,奴
隶主当然不高兴了. 关于宗教,
其实我是很支持达赖在美国乃至全球修寺庙推广藏传佛教和宣传和平的, 不过非常诧异
的是没有地方和钱给他做这件事
所以其实达赖就是个政客而已
The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA's payroll from the late 1950s until
1974, reportedly receiving $US15,000 a month ($US180,000 a year).
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/behind-dalai-lamas-holy-
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p****y
发帖数: 23737 | 38 【 以下文字转载自 Vegetarianism 俱乐部 】
发信人: purity (purity), 信区: Vegetarianism
标 题: 第十七世大宝法王关于吃素的重要讲话
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Sep 3 14:38:32 2010, 美东)
第十七世大宝法王在24届噶举祈愿大法会上关于吃素的重要讲话
由祖古林古仁波切（ Ringu Tulku Rinpoche）现场同声翻译
时间：2007年1月3日，藏历十五
于印度菩提迦耶，第二十四届噶举满临法会期间
编者按：此为第十七世大宝法王讲话的记录。
注意：由于法王的现场讲话通过收音机同声翻译成多种语言，其中会不可避免地有部分
遗漏或错误。此次讲话内容非常重要，故噶举满临国际负责人喇嘛却达（ Lama
Chodrak）要求此次讲话应整理成一个完整版，一旦整理完毕，将尽快在此公布。由于
法王的现场讲话通过收音机同声翻译成多种语言，其中会不可避免地有部分遗漏或错误
。此次讲话内容非常重要，故噶举满临国际负责人喇嘛却达（ Lama Chodrak）要求此
次讲话应整理成一个完整版，一旦整理完毕，将尽快在此 |
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a**u
发帖数: 8107 | 39 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
augustina (augustina) 于 (Wed Mar 10 18:32:20 2010, 美东) 提到:
不常来这个版，偶尔来一下常常撞见一些让人心惊肉跳的骂人帖，觉得跟这个版的
主旨很不相符。我觉得主要的原因是有些人把所谓大小乘做了本质主义的解释，好像两
千多年来，这两个乘都不曾发展变化过。我最近读了一些书，跟大家念叨念叨，也许会
有一些帮助。（本文中的“小乘”指的的是产生在大乘以前的主流佛教，仅仅为了方便
用此词指代。）
中国的佛教自称“大乘”，中文佛经中有很多对“小乘”的批判。但我们必须知道
这只是一面之词，如果我们把这一面之词当真理或事实，肯定有偏颇。比如说，很多人
以为“菩萨”是大乘才有的，其实在上座部的经典（也就是巴利文佛典）里，“菩萨”
一词出现了无数次。更有一部Buddhavamsa，“佛史”,讲述了释迦之前的24个过去佛，
在前世给作为“菩萨”的释迦受记（prediction)的故事。这听上去就有一点大乘的味
道了。再比如，大乘说小乘不懂得慈悲，只自己修行... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1060 | 40 我平时看书都喜欢做笔记的，2009年看了70本闲书，做了70多万字的笔记，有些傻气。有部分原因是为了提高英文，嘻嘻。这是我2009年和2010
年看过的书，也许大概能从中看到我内心的焦虑或者渴望寻找的答案吧。
2010
1 Tenzin Gyatso.2000.The meaning of life.Boston: Wisdom Publication
2 Zukav Gary.1989.The seat of the soul. Simon&Schusten
3 Wilsom Colin.2009.Super Consciousness.London: Watkin Publishing
4 Mctaggart Lynne.2008.The field.Harper
5 Dalai Lama.2005.The universe in a single atom. NY: Broadway books
6 Dalai Lama.1997.Sleeping, dreaming and dying. Widsom Publication
7 Jam... 阅读全帖 |
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r******a
发帖数: 207 | 41 2000年初，新浪的旅游论坛有一场关于西藏宗教的讨论 ，讨论的结果是一位叫"耶
律大石"的牛人写了一个"西藏文化谈"的短文系列，2001年我也转到过同言。转这个的
目的并不是我完全认同他的观点，当时纯粹是为了吓唬人的，因为被人说是"质木无文"
，所以找点儿少见的东西告诉他兴趣和涉猎范围不同而已。
言归正传，这个"文化谈"系列当时看到的时候，第一感觉就是不知道从哪儿抄的，
原因有三：
1，文中所用的很多语言明显是翻译过来的，而没有给出引证的出处
2，行文的结构拼凑感强烈，很多看法不是中国人的思维习惯
3，最关键的是我网络考古到作者最早发的贴，发现作者当时和人争论Kagyupa是红
教还是白教（http://www.777travel.net/travel12/travel143.html）
我不相信一个连 Kagyupa是红教还是白教都分不清的人能写出这样的东西。要知道
从负面的角度来讨论一个事物，得有相当的深入了解才行。正是因为不知道是从哪儿抄
的，所以不能跳出来言之凿凿，不过最近碰巧看到了原书（http://www.american-buddha.com/shadow.dalai.1... 阅读全帖 |
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E******u
发帖数: 3920 | 42 众人干脆把Dalai Lama His Holiness请来顶礼膜拜好了，其他各类大大小小的仁波切
比起Dalai Lama His Holiness爆弱了 |
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p****y
发帖数: 23737 | 43 第十七世大宝法王在24届噶举祈愿大法会上关于吃素的重要讲话
由祖古林古仁波切（ Ringu Tulku Rinpoche）现场同声翻译
时间：2007年1月3日，藏历十五
于印度菩提迦耶，第二十四届噶举满临法会期间
编者按：此为第十七世大宝法王讲话的记录。
注意：由于法王的现场讲话通过收音机同声翻译成多种语言，其中会不可避免地有部分
遗漏或错误。此次讲话内容非常重要，故噶举满临国际负责人喇嘛却达（ Lama
Chodrak）要求此次讲话应整理成一个完整版，一旦整理完毕，将尽快在此公布。由于
法王的现场讲话通过收音机同声翻译成多种语言，其中会不可避免地有部分遗漏或错误
。此次讲话内容非常重要，故噶举满临国际负责人喇嘛却达（ Lama Chodrak）要求此
次讲话应整理成一个完整版，一旦整理完毕，将尽快在此公布。
讲话正文如下：
既然我有一个半小时的时间，我希望能谈一下成为素食者的问题。要谈太多关于素食，
也就是放弃吃肉的问题并不容易。我认为了解该如何看待吃肉一事，并付诸实际，是非
常重要的。现在，我应该要开始说了，因为很快半个小时就要过去了。开始我们需要先
来一些念诵。（念诵） |
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a******x
发帖数: 561 | 44 这个是我上个星期去Cornell University参观的时候， 在Ithaca downtown一家西藏人
开的小店里买的. 他店里拱着Dalai Lama的照片，呵呵。那儿有个Tibetan Community
，10初Dalai Lama要去那里给个public speaking。 |
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m******l
发帖数: 613 | 45 Tensin Gyatso
Dalai lama
谁知道什么地方可以找得到《10 questions for Dalai lama》? |
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l*****s
发帖数: 798 | 46 By PAULA J. DOBRIANSKY
When President Obama didn't meet with the
Dalai Lama during his October trip to
Washington, it gave many the impression that
human-rights promotion was not central to
this administration's foreign policy. This
impression needs to be promptly corrected.
While the U.S. accepts that Tibet is part of
the People's Republic of China, for decades
our country has supported Tibetan autonomy,
especially in culture and religion. If the
U.S. were to step back from this position,
incre |
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h****a
发帖数: 580 | 48 http://www.newsweek.com/id/233726
Charity Case
Whether they like it or not, China has been very good for Tibetans.
By Isaac Stone Fish | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Feb 17, 2010
President Obama's controversial meeting with the Dalai Lama this week has
already infuriated China and stirred up Tibet advocates who thought it
should have come sooner. China says Tibet is part of its territory, and that
the meeting represents an unwanted intrusion into its domestic affairs. But
most Americans still see the |
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d******g
发帖数: 346 | 49 Let him know:
1. Tibet is a part of China.
2. McMahon line is an unfair line to delineate a piece of land from Tibet to
the British colony.
3. It is wrongful for India to accommodate Dalai Lama, a separatist of China.
4. China treated those Indian soldiers died in the China-India war with
respect, which is a very high moral behavior, but hasn't received due
apprecation from India. |
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