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y******0
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Dr.Lanjing's Match Training Course Was Good
I attended Dr. Lanjing's Match Training Course 2012 at Marriott Hotel in
Newark, New Jersey on March 3. The course was very good. I learned a lot in
the course, and I believe all other trainees did so too. I appreciate Dr.
Lanjing's efforts.
Dr. Lanjing talked about match & application strategies, American culture
and health care system, common problems and mistakes of CMG, and model
physician. He also talked about OB, CV, PS and LOR.
Dr. Lanjing also conducted an mock interview with each train... 阅读全帖
m*********s
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 再谈Lanjing老师的mock interview class
周日参加了澜静老师的第二期mock interview class,正如前面同学所说,收获很大,
上课内容包括美国文化、社交礼仪、单词发音、穿衣戴帽、老中的优缺点、到mock
interview及其点评,深受启发。我们纷纷为Lanjing老师的敬业精神和奉献精神所打动
。我们还需努力,争取match成功,将来像Lanjing老师一样,回馈社区,帮助更多的老
中。就像Lanjing老师说的那样“修合无人见,存心有天知”!
还有1感慨,本来本期class应该14同学,结果2名同学未到。其实还有许多同学想参加
,但苦于没有名额。强烈建议如果已经报名的同学如果要cancel的话,提前给Lanjing
老师发个email,同时也在skype match大组或bbs通报一声,这样好让其他感兴趣的同
学得到报名机会。
p*********1
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Dr.Lanjing's Match Training Course Was Good
I can't agree more. Dr. Lanjing's class is very informative and valuable. I
benefit lots from the class. Dr. Lanjing really made big efforts to help us.

PS,
p******9
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Will not get into details here since Sarah did a great job on that. Just
want to share what I learned from Dr. Lanjing’s Class.
Dress: black or navy blue suit, solid white shirt the best, light pink also
ok; business casual for dinner before interview.
Make up: must for female applicant to make us look more energetic;
Interview: be able to “kick the ball back and forth” with interviewer;
Know the program and city very well before interview, not like me, “I said
I like NY, but I do not know centr... 阅读全帖
F**M
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Dr.Lanjing's Match Training Course Was Good
Lanjing's workshop is great! After attending this workshop, I can figure out
the way to shine among all the applicants and let the PD remeber you in IV
and rank you. And also the individualized stategy on how to get IVs.
l******i
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 为Mock IV and Lanjing Class找Roomate。
Only open to person who have contacted Lanjing before.
S*****4
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11 people attended yesterday's interview workshop given by Dr. Lanjing Zhang
. We all learned a great deal from the experience. Dr. Zhang's unique
coaching in our IV skills is very helpful, not to mention his dedication and
seriousness in helping CMG. I don't think any word is strong enough for me
to express my gratitude to him. Thank you!
s*********e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 再谈Lanjing老师的mock interview class
同期同学来抱个到!非常非常感谢lanjing老师,这次学习收获很大,豁然开朗的感觉
l********y
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 第二届网络老刀会面试会议通知
第二届网络老刀会面试会议通知
今年申请的同学,在9月1号递出申请后,要着手准备面试了。象各位前辈反复强调的,
拿到面试后,所有的candidates都站在同一个起跑线上了。面试对能否match可以说是
至关重要的临门一脚。第二届网络老刀会将着重介绍面试的注意事项及技巧,会务组邀
请了在面试方面具有丰富经验的Attending/Fellow们,给同学们进行辅导。Dr.
Lanjing Zhang 和麦地哲别是 2009 NYC mock interview和2010 NYC mock interview
的组织者。Dr. 二饼 曾经参加内科住院医面试和2009 及 2010 NYC mock interview。
大家在参加了纽约面试会议和小组练习了以后,这个电话面试会议将是在进入真正的面
试之前热身的一个好机会,老刀会务组希望这次会议能给今年申请的同学带来帮助。
会议日程暂定如下:
暂定时间:10月8日下午
邀请讲课嘉宾:
Dr. Lanjing Zhang (GI Pathology Attending)
老军医 (Hem Path fellow)
麦地哲别 (Hem Onc fel... 阅读全帖
j******g
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2012 ACAP Pathology Symposium: Clinicopathologic correlative review of
gastrointestinal diseases
Targeted audience: Gastroenterologists, pathologists, primary care
physicians and oncologists interested in GI diseases.
Goal: After the course, the attendees will be able to understand the updated
GI pathologic terminologies and treatment guidelines. The case discussion
based format will lead to interactive and effective learning experience.
Expert pathologists and gastroenterologists will share the... 阅读全帖
j******g
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2012 ACAP Pathology Symposium: Clinicopathologic correlative review of
gastrointestinal diseases
Targeted audience: Gastroenterologists, pathologists, primary care
physicians and oncologists interested in GI diseases.
Goal: After the course, the attendees will be able to understand the updated
GI pathologic terminologies and treatment guidelines. The case discussion
based format will lead to interactive and effective learning experience.
Expert pathologists and gastroenterologists will share the... 阅读全帖
n**********8
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 再谈Dr. Wing's mock interview
上周参加了Dr. Wing的mock interview,说一下感想,供大家参考。
首先我们能有的选择不多,之前联系了lanjing,9月份联系的,想上11月份的班Dr.
lanjing回信说已经没位置了。先联系lanjing因为那里毕竟有一天面对面的交流,所以
想着获得的信息估计会多点,虽然花费肯定要高很多。后来听人说Dr. lanjing比较挑
人,所以想着是不是我是低分老CMG,希望不大,所以就被拒绝了,现在也不得而知。
Dr. Wing的mock interview总价相对其他选择比较便宜,因为毕竟是网上的,1-1.5个
小时,但单位时间收费其实挺高的,但mock interview后我觉得还是值得花这些钱。之
前和我的language tutor(美国人,中学老师) 练过所有能想到的问题,language
tutor也给了我很多参考意见,但他毕竟不是从事医疗行业的。我也和实验室的
clinical fellow聊过相关内容,但他们以前是被面试者,从没面试过住院医生,所以
想法还是有点不同。Dr. Wing明显有着丰富的面住院医生的经验,知道program
director想听... 阅读全帖
s********o
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pathodream (天涯饱看山) 于 (Wed Nov 23 01:00:59 2011, 美东) 提到:
『前言』
与澜静初识于5/22/2011 纽约 ACAP 会议。
当时的自己还没有从Match失败的打击中回过神来。 前路渺茫,无所适从,几近放弃。
第一次参加CME的活动,老刀的“you are not old; you are experienced" 给了我观
念上的改变,Dr.Eng 的面试讲解让我茅塞顿开。会后的闲聊中站在身边的澜静得知我
也申请病理,主动提出“let me have a mock interview with you" . 15分钟里,他
就我的“tell me about myself" 回答提出的批评和建议,对我犹如当头棒喝, 让我
第一次认识到我精心准备的面试答案是多么的不成熟, 第一次意识到我失败的根源,
也第一次发现了战胜自己“learned helplessness" 的武器。
会后给澜静写了感谢邮件, 澜静很是鼓励我, 也一再表示如我有需要,他... 阅读全帖
q*****8
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - mock iv选哪个?求指点
我去过两个,Lanjing 和 ACAP,都很不错。当然Lanjing的因为是小班授课,个体化针
对性更好,我个人认为,Lanjing的商业化味道最淡。ACAP往年都有至少2次面试机会,
今年不清楚。 ACAP主要的好处是能够认识很多朋友。Wing的没有参加过,但是感觉更
加商业化,网络收费400/hr是有点承受不了。
前面在争论ACAP时,pathodream被误解了,其实他是真的热心。ACAP增加费用的原因我
不清楚,我猜是因为报名的人太多,没法消化才出这个策略的吧。
n*****m
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2009 ACAP mock interview program application
Deadline: Thur. July 16, 2009
Sponsored by Association of Chinese American Physicians (ACAP). Open to all
Chinese Medical Graduates, with a preference to members of ACAP.
Please contact Dr. Lanjing Zhang < lanjing.zhang at mssm.edu > for ACAP mock
interview program application.
HURRY UP!!! DON'T MISS IT!!!
n*****m
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Please contact Dr. Lanjing Zhang < l***********[email protected] > for ACAP mock
interview program application.
k**********n
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既然你和Lanjing一起做了许多事情,就应该知lanjing代表ACAP是做了很多事情的。骂
了就骂了,不用否认了吧。做事情有所为有所不为,您所认为的不妥之处不见得是ACAP
确实的不妥之处。我反驳你就是不能任你满嘴跑火车胡说八道。亏得你还是个作过科研
的,不用证据说话,全凭臆测。
你如果不强调困难就应该出来做斑竹。己所不欲,勿施于人。

ACAP既然是一个组织,作为领导者,你只能鼓励大家站到她的旗帜下,而不能强调困难。
总之,希望华人医生协会,既然然你他们的打了这块牌子,就要干这等事实,别他妈的
等出了悲剧后,再四处捐点款——让我们再次集体失声,说话二,尿裤子。
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 武汉同济医学院MSPE
Please email me (l***********[email protected]) your name, class, student
registration number (Xue Hao).
I'll email you a copy of Tongji MSPE once you're verified as a TJMC alum.
You should go to Jiao Wu Chu or Dean's office for a signature.
Lanjing
i**********a
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1.emma: Dream
What are u looking for?
fate
2. L-Path: must have step3,
who good for path—phd, research
CAF: need or not? Apply as many as you can
遇到不友好问题,不要 急,慢慢:I understand your concern, …不要太当回事
Program feedback, some very positive, still need to go for all iv,
态度:positive,投入,积极,一定能上
3. D-IM: how to get more iv,
现在就要找OB,专科的推荐信,
周末和晚上做,给60个人发,做了3个专科,as soon as possible.
Do want you can to improve the package
主动出击,联系已经match上的朋友,老板 朋友都 可以帮拿到,请别人递简历,练IV
,给program发email,早联系,发2-3遍,8月初就开始了,骚扰PC/PD,
4... 阅读全帖
J*********4
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Wow, really sorry. It is not me, at least I can say that.
I highly respect Dr. Lanjing!!! He is one of the founders of ACAP SRF
committee that a lot of CMGs benefited a lot. Every feedback from Dr.
Lanjing's class is very positive.
Thanks for posting it again.
Best!
Jenny
S******9
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我也参加了lanjing的班,真心感谢lanjing的帮助,收获很大。
希望我们都能进到program,以后也回报我们CMG社区。
f***r
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支持老刀。
为什么国人不能和印度人,巴基斯坦人和中东人斗,都喜欢内斗。
我当年申请的时候(也可能是我申请的后一年),还有lanjing医生出来办班,被人攻
击,说商业行为。很长时间不见lanjing医生在板上了。那个班好像也没有再办下去。
难道别人帮你就一定要免费?没有一定的资金支持,这种免费能长久?作为attending
,一个小时应该挣多少钱?如果你还是门外汉,也许你不知道。至少我不会选择去挣办
班的钱,实在不如自己多接几个shift.
不要攻击我。我不是任何托。
F*D
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来自主题: JobMarket版 - Hone Project Coordinator for ACAP
【 以下文字转载自 MedicalCareer 讨论区 】
发信人: ninimom (ninimom), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Hone Project Coordinator for ACAP
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jun 25 22:12:59 2009, 美东)
Dear LanJing.
ACAP has the 1 position opens to all CMGs. Please make yourrecommendations
if anyone has interest to take this job.
The job duties and compensations are as follow
1. coordinating all ACAP activity related to HONE project ( he/sheshould
make the follow-up connections with the screenees afte reportshas been
reviewed by our physi
l***o
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Chinese Boston Med is going to host Mock Interview for residency match on 10
/19/2013.
In each session, Mock Interview for the interested candidates will follow
the description of the specialty (except pathology).
Here is the preliminary schedule:
1:00 pm: Welcome I(Zitao Liu, MD/PhD, Tufts OB/GYN)
1:10 pm: General Techniques in Interview (Zitao Liu, MD/PhD, Tufts OB/GYN)
1:30 pm: Family Medicine and Mock Interviwe (Wei Wang, MD/PhD, Tufts Family)
2:30 pm: Pathology (Lanjing Zhang, MD/PhD, Princ... 阅读全帖
l***o
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Final Schedule:
Chinese Boston Med is going to host Mock Interview for residency match on 10
/19/2013.
In each session, Mock Interview for the interested candidates will follow
the description of the specialty (except pathology).
Here is the final schedule:
12:00 pm: Welcome I(Zitao Liu, MD/PhD, Tufts OB/GYN)
12:20 pm: General Techniques in Interview (Zitao Liu, MD/PhD, Tufts OB/GYN)
12:45 pm: Urology and Surgery and Mock Interview (Liyang Zhuang, MD, Lahey
Clinic)
1:30 pm: Family Medicine and M... 阅读全帖
d****y
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【 以下文字转载自 MedicalCareer 讨论区 】
发信人: daisyy (daisy), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 免费USMLE,面试的书赠送 (限RTP地区)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 6 23:51:52 2014, 美东)
1. Next day job interview
2. Lanjing‘s interview training course 材料
3. Goljan's Rapid review pathology
4. BRS pathology
5. High yield Gross anatomy
6. High yield Embryology
7. High yield Neuroanatomy
还有一些旧桌子,凳子,沙发,微波炉等免费赠送
有需要的同学请站内或者skype 给我发个消息,最好留个电话。这样方便我联系你过
来pick up.
B******n
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来自主题: NewJersey版 - 金陵十三钗里的南京话
'lz ashi lanjing ren ah?'
f*****n
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 给提示猜地名 (转载)
准确点说是lanjing
d****y
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【 以下文字转载自 NextGeneration 讨论区 】
发信人: lanjing1002 (Lanjing), 信区: NextGeneration
标 题: 我家可爱的双胞胎宝宝
关键字: 可爱,双胞胎,宝宝
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 17 11:29:45 2010, 美东)
我家老二困到不行,被老大欺负。
s******l
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - Children of Dune - 2
melange (me'-lange also ma,lanj) n-s, origin uncertain
(thought to derive from ancient Terran Franzh): a. mixture
of spices; b. spice of Arrakis (Dune) with geriatric
properties first noted by Yanshuph Ashkoko, royal chemist in
reign of Shakkad the Wise; Arrakeen melange, found only in
deepest desert sands of Arrakis, linked to prophetic visions
of Paul Muad'Dib (Atreides), first Fremen Mahdi; also
employed by Spacing Guild Navigators and the Bene Gesserit.
-Dictionary Royal fifth edition
Th
k**********n
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Final agenda-5/17 CMG gathering
Association of Chinese American Physicians USA, Inc
CHINESE MEDICAL GRADUATES SYMPOSIUM
Date/Time: Sunday May 17, 2009; 9:30 am - 05:00 pm
Location: Room No. 2, NY Hall of Science, 47-01 111st, Queens NY 11368
Parking: Free parking available at NY Hall of Science. Free street
parking available near the Mudan Restaurant (for gala)
____________________________
9:30 - 9:35 am Introduction
Lanjing Zhang, MD, MS, Chair of ACAP SRF, Resident, Dept of Pathology,
Mount Sinai School of Medicine
9:35-9:55
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - pre-interview teleconference
Two pre-interview teleconferences have been held. More details are available
at http://acapsrf.wordpress.com/ and CMG group at facebook http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=99401102044
An in-person and another by-phone individual mock interview session are
being planned. In-person session will take place in NYC on Sun. Sept 26,
2009. If you're interested in by-phone mock interview, you may direct
contact Dr. Eng or me (l***********[email protected]) In-person interview is closed
for application.
Best
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - ACAP annual convention and gala& CMG meeting 2010
ACAP annual convention and gala, and concurrent CMG meeting on Sun, May 23,
2010
Location: New York City.
9:00-9:30 Introduction and report of the committee
Lanjing Zhang, MD, MS, Pathology Resident, Mount Sinai School of Medicine
9:30-10:15 Internal medicine residency interview
Ping Gu, MD, Hematology& Oncology Fellow, New York University
10:15-11:00 The complexity of residency application
TBA
11:00-12:00 Live mock interview
Lisa Eng, DO, New Life Ob/Gyn group, Incoming President of ACAP
12:00-
t*********m
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - CMG facebook group 新年祝福和总结
Lanjing, Good Job!
Happy New Year!
k*****e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 我和麦地华人医学生(CMG)的故事2010
我还记得在facebook猜过Lanjing的中文名呢,好秀气
d******a
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 我和麦地华人医学生(CMG)的故事2010
Lanjing,
Did you remember the two best CMGs in mock interview? One got pre-match in
CT, 40 miles away from NYC. How about your schoolmate?
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 我和麦地华人医学生(CMG)的故事2010
She's struggling between location vs. specialty, IM vs. PMR. She'll have
long distance, in either way -I think...
She's going for the match! Many thanks for your kind help!
It seemed you deleted your post about UM clothing...I'll be in it, on 3/27
meeting. See you there~ -Lanjing
d******a
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 茶包,我3月份也去纽约
Lanjing says it will be in Manhattan!
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - [zt]New York Hospital Queens (NYHQ) 见习心得
按:这是我们NYHQ观察员之一,介绍我们的项目。目前已经有Prematch的位子了。我祝
贺这位CMG的成功,真地为他骄傲!感谢花时间写了这么详细的小结。
===================
New York Hospital Queens (NYHQ) 见习心得
我是比较早的那批得到NYHQ见习机会的。去之前,我除了知道自己要到内科见习,
其余一概不知。第一天报到后,懵懵地被送到了重症病房,又听说在我之前的人都有
present cases at attending rounds, 我着实吓了一大跳。第一周就在熟悉环境中很
狼狈地让时间溜走了。后来多多少少知道了这个见习机会的由来,我就更坚定了要写写
自己见习心得,让每个后来人都有备而来,满意而归。
一. 见习机会的由来
NYHQ见习时,常有来会诊的医生问我,是如何找到这个机会的,因为这个医院本身
对外是不允许见习生的。见习结束后,我只言片语地知道了这个长期固定的见习机会是
ACAP的Dr. Lanjing Zhang等医生主动与NYHQ的上层领导人联系后,为我们CMG争取到的
。在很多医院都已不允许正规见习的今天
k*****e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 尊重老刀意见: 我们不方便叫中刀会
支持lanjing的建议,老刀会只有一个,旗帜就是老刀。
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - update: ACAP annual CMG meeting 2010
DATE: Sun, May 23, 2010
LOCATION: Sheraton LaGuardia East Hotel
135-20 39th Avenue, Flushing, NY 11354
AGENDA
9:00 - 9:05 am Welcome Remarks
Lanjing Zhang, MD, MS, Pathology Resident,
Mount Sinai School of Medicine
9:05 - 09:20 am MSSNY -- A Resource for Medical Graduates and Residents
Eunice Skelly, Vice President - Membership
Medical Society of the State of New York
9:20 - 10:15 am Internal medicine residency interview
Ping Gu, MD, Hematology& Oncology Fellow,
New York University
10:15 - 10:4
k**e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 同时捐助印度医生的遗孀和遗腹子
柳医生,今天我和lanjing再电话里讨论的时候,有讲到从王医生事件里,其他有意从
医的人们(比如很多再这个版面混
的),应该从中学习到什么。稍后我们想开个专题讨论。
谢谢你写的这个帖子。
说镇的,再怎么过分,也到不了要置人于死地的地步,无论谁都一样。如何学会平衡自
己,利用对自己有利的条件因素来
争夺对自己有利的处境,才是王道。ACAP这个组织其实可以帮助王医生度过难关,可惜
他并没有和ACAP联系(句我所
知)。他单打独斗再加上想不开,走极端路线太可惜了。
印度人也许真的太可恶了,可是,杀了他们对自己又又什么好处。那些嚷嚷给中国人长
脸的,你要杀,自己去杀好了,看
到别人杀你就说长脸,你倒是扪心自问,你自己这样做,丢下你自己老小一家,你做得
到吗?长脸不是这么长的。
k**e
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好!你已经开始总结了。我们得就这个开个专题。回头我们讨论一下怎么拟个专题吧。
我已经和lanjing说了,正等他的回
音。

来,事情原委是该华人医师因为就医
是当其时的住院总,可能与该名医生
,已经到了家徒四壁的地步。悲剧发
后,作为将要走入美国住院医师训练
选一个私怨最深的人进行报复。这只
10年以来,CMG在美国医疗体制的

者医疗集团,或是个体从业,很少形
即便是当雇员,照样要吃别的团体的
j******g
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登记捐款的朋友:
感谢您的支持!您应该已经收到ACP发给我们的最新捐款报告,请到注册所用信箱查收.
欢迎建议和询问.
Lanjing Zhang
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Any news from ACAP annual meeting
你没有去啊?今天我们几个女生还提到你呢,说不知道你会不会也来了.
Lanjing zhang 他们会贴出来会上的slides.
j******g
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - ACAP resident committee chair/contact
Dear all, I've retired from the chair position of ACAP SRF. The new chair
is zbbh and contact  email acapsrf@gmail  .
I very much appreciate your kind support, please continue your support to
him. Please write him all of your questions
regarding NYHQ observer program and other ACAP SRF programs. Thank you. Good
luck! -Lanjing Zhang, MD, MS
R**********n
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - ACAP resident committee chair/contact
Thanks Lanjing! You did a great job!
a********e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - ACAP resident committee chair/contact
谢谢Lanjing这么多年的辛勤工作和对CMG community的贡献。
也感谢对我个人的建议和关心。
祝一切顺利。
k*****e
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - ACAP resident committee chair/contact
感谢Lanjing开拓般的贡献
a****9
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感谢ACAP member,特别是现任ACAP president Dr. Lisa Eng和SRF Chair Dr.
Lanjing Zhang的努力,去年成功举办了一次模拟面试,让尽60位CMG XDJM受益。今年
我们将依照去年类似模式进行。
今年的模拟面试主要分为两个部分。
一、正式 Mock Interview
时间:10月16日,星期六
地点:Marriott at the Brooklyn Bridge
333 Adams St
Lounge next to the Bar
Brooklyn, NY 11201
过程:Dr. Lisa Eng和SRF Committee将根据报名者的申请专业情况、报名人数召集
interviewers。以一对一“speed dating”的方式,争取每位申请者与3位interviewer
各进行20分钟面谈,15分钟模拟面试,5分钟feedback。根据报名人数、时间等情况再
回答大家关于面试和申请的问题。
二、Pre-Mock interview
为了让大家更好地做好准备,更好地利用正式Mock interview的宝贵机会(特别是D
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