L*****G
发帖数: 12375 | 1 二者有区别：
1。卡扎非搞个人独裁，个人崇拜，有特权阶层，拥护他，也有迷信他的百姓，因为他
做了好事外加宣传，拥护他。
2。TG搞一党独裁，一党崇拜，有特权阶层，拥护它，但是：几乎没有迷信它的百姓，
因为它做了很多坏事来不断损害百姓利益。
毛时代中国和1更像。
所以，中国没有很多死硬分子，主要是中国经济发展还好，宗教和部落实力不强，社会
不太割裂，疆独，藏独毕竟占人口比例很小很小，而且地区局限。
一旦有契机，其实中国的死硬分子很少，指望贪官为 TG 卖命？不是开玩笑吗？
这个契机啥时候来不好说。 |
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k*********t
发帖数: 2999 | 2 “独裁政权”自行更替血腥吗？呵呵
敬佩卡扎菲绝非等闲之辈，肯定对国对民还是有贡献的；二是支持忠于卡扎菲的那些利
比亚人，最终只能够靠为他流尽最后一滴血来表达这种忠诚。
主呢 ？这里的这些小将有人愿意为了共产党继续统治战斗到生命最后一息吗 ？ |
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l******t
发帖数: 2788 | 3 小将是没有价值观的人，唯利是图。肯定是墙头草啊
敬佩卡扎菲绝非等闲之辈，肯定对国对民还是有贡献的；二是支持忠于卡扎菲的那些利
比亚人，最终只能够靠为他流尽最后一滴血来表达这种忠诚。
主呢 ？这里的这些小将有人愿意为了共产党继续统治战斗到生命最后一息吗 ？ |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 4 "独裁政权“很难在世袭方式以外自行和平更替，但也不绝对，要看这个国家人民的运气
。比如邓小平对毛泽东的更替，就是不流血政变，也就是说使用了暴力，但是干得漂亮
，但是也不是完全没有血腥，比如江青几个原来可以做国家首脑的人，被判了死刑下了
大牢，幸运的是小老百姓没有血光之灾。
八九命运，到六四流血，一般宣传的都是西方势力和中共的较量。其实，只要明眼人就
看得出，也是你说的“独裁政权”自行更替的血腥表现，也就是接班人和指定接班人的
独裁者，发生了不和谐，不一致，于是学生，市民，士兵都当了牺牲品。-------- 这
是我对六四血案的一贯看法，我相信是最准确的看法。 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 5 有道理，大概所谓老将，小将的根本区别，只是关于共产党执政，某些老将说该结束了
，而小将主张先留着用用，没了可能更糟。 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 6 我很想知道如果共产党下了台，某某党上台当了中国执政者，小将们会主张不合作，游
行示威，甚至暴力抗争，要求恢复共产党统治，还是转过来做此某某党的“新小将“。
我和共产党没有死仇，所以我会对共产党，某某党一视同仁，对于任何代替共产党管理
中国的新政府，我一样会保持警觉和怀疑态度。 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 7 "独裁政权“自行更替如果要不血腥，只有满足以下两个条件之一：
（1）你儿子接着干；别人还要服你的儿子，别人也没有意图和能力取而代之。
（2）一个你非常信任的人接着干；这个人不和你唱反调，或者你不在乎他唱反调；这
个人别人也服，没有别人有企图和能力对他取而代之。
一旦以上两个途径遇到麻烦，无法顺利承继，就是人头滚滚，血流成河。古今中外的例
子不用我说了吧 ？ |
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k*********t
发帖数: 2999 | 8 和平演变这一基本国策你不知道？张口就来“我认为”“我相信”有零credit就不错了
呀。呵呵
你起码得先数数这世界有哪几个你所谓的“独裁政权”，再列列这些政权更替里血腥恐
怖的次数，加上和类似发展阶段的非“独裁政权”比比，才能有点儿说服力嘛。呵呵
至于拿“原来可以做国家首脑的”结果被下大牢的四人帮说事就更可笑了。民主如美国
者还有正在做首脑被ＸＸ的呢。呵呵
运气 |
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k*********t
发帖数: 2999 | 9 你把“独裁”俩字去掉，这俩条也差不多呀。民主如美国者，不满足第二条后台老板也
不会同意嘛。呵呵 |
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a***n
发帖数: 3633 | 10 老将，小将的组成都很复杂，到时候肯定会有小将要求恢复共党统治的，
但是大多数应该不会。如果新的人搞得很糟，而且持续很糟，那么即便大家
不怀念共党，也会厌弃新党的。
还有，很多小将并非是赞同共党，而是比较反感部分老将的提法。就像
很多老将提出的是理性建议，但是部分老将只是高声谩骂一样。不幸的是在
如今的网络环境下，无论是有真理部的国内还是无真理部的海外，都是那些
最极端最不理性的想法会得到人更多的关注（关注未必是赞同）。有次，
我们很多关于老将小将脸谱式的看法是不准确的。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 11 和平演变基本国策，是中国的，还是美国的 ？
你自己去数数现在世界的“独裁政权“吧，确实一只手可数了。美国总统被人暗杀，这
个是暴力犯罪，不是独裁政权交替时候，两派武装的那种战争。请不要抬杠。
四人帮事件，就是一场武装政变。这个你如何抵赖也没有用。希望你仔细去读回忆录，
很多都不是秘密了，也不是在中南海抓人这么简单，全国的军队都有部署，四人帮方面
没有还手的机会。 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 12 宋鸿兵，乃至美国许多社会批评家所说的，金融资本在后台左右美国或者西方的政治。
这个我不否认。但是这样的左右，是社会不公平，或者金钱力量和影响力的一种体现。
但是你非要把这种“后台影响“和明火执仗的独裁，相提并论，就有认知的偏颇了。首
先，国际金融资本对中国政府以及百姓，一样有影响。 其次，这种影响和独裁还是有
区别的，好比说恋爱自由，你非要说实际上恋爱后面是金钱地位左右，哪里有绝对的自
由。 |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 13 共产党下台后，如果新的执政党做的更糟糕，能够敢于站出来要求恢复共党统治的，也
许大多数也是原来的“老将“。我早就说过，“老将“就是不能随便被忽悠，不能忍受
被愚弄和奴役的一些人，“老将“就是脑后有反骨的人。 |
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b*******k
发帖数: 16989 | 14 这里的小将们都在欧美日本澳大利亚呢,指望他们为共产党流尽最后一滴血?哈哈
敬佩卡扎菲绝非等闲之辈，肯定对国对民还是有贡献的；二是敬佩支持忠于卡扎菲的那
些利比亚人，最终只能够靠为他流尽最后一滴血来表达这种忠诚。
主呢 ？这里的这些小将有人愿意为了共产党继续统治战斗到生命最后一息吗 ？ |
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 15 我相信国内也有小将的。别人大喊大叫的时候，他们自己觉得过的不错很舒适，希望别
有什么动乱，自然会想起保皇要紧。其实许多这样的小将的舒适只是因为自己不当家，
家里一切都让父母辛辛苦苦地预备好了，自己关心的只是每天玩些什么新鲜的。 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 10738 | 16 民主党是穷鬼，老娘都可以卖掉的。讲原则的都是共和党。
就不
要打
马这 |
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发帖数: 333 | 18 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/19/us-libya-spokesman-ca
idUSTRE78H2MI20110919
"A group was captured in Bani Walid consisting of 17 mercenaries. They
are
technical experts and they include consultative officers," Moussa
Ibrahim
told Syrian-based Arrai TV.
"Most of them are French, one of them is from an Asian country that has
not
been identified, two English people and one Qatari," he added.
He said the 17 would be shown on television at a later time, but did not
give more details.
It was... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4825 | 19 Libyans Seize Qaddafi’s Son, the Last at Large
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/world/africa/gaddafi-son-capt
ZINTAN, Libya — Libyan militia fighters on Saturday captured Seif al-Islam
el-Qaddafi, the last fugitive son and onetime heir apparent of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi, setting off nationwide celebrations but also exposing a
potential power struggle between former-rebel factions over his handling.
Metro Twitter Logo.
Connect With Us on Twitter
Follow @nytimesworld for international breaking n... 阅读全帖 |
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M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 20 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NA06Dj02.html
Ron Paul vote raises alarm
By Jim Lobe
WASHINGTON - Texas Representative Ron Paul, who 24 years ago performed
dismally as the standard-bearer of the Libertarian Party, has begun making
waves in the 2012 presidential campaign, to the extreme discomfort of neo-
conservatives and aggressive nationalists who dominate the foreign policy
rosters of most of his Republican rivals.
While his third-place finish in Tuesday's Iowa caucuses disappoint... 阅读全帖 |
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 21 Most of young ppl's views of the world, are formed in the college years.
Both my parents are die-hard TG loyalists ah.
Both my sister and I are rebels. |
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 22 If you live long enough, you will see the ugly side of TG more.
How many Xiaojiang lost their faith in TG just recent days ah.
But we also can see who are the real loyalists to TG. |
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 23 No.They are just the die-hard TG loyalists la.
Or they are probably really the kids of TG leaders. |
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w****j
发帖数: 5581 | 24 对保皇党的研究，可以看Loyalists in Revolutionary America。处决的事情是wiki上
看到的，对保皇的的报复绝对是有的，不过我记性哪那么好，看过的书里所有的细节都
能记得住？另外，我指的是报复性处决，应该是两个人，不是杀全家。不过难到好蛋那
个“杀全家”的意思是灭门？ |
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发帖数: 4321 | 25 NPR Comments on:
Apple's Patent Win Could Alter Landscape Of Smartphone Industry
Save The Humans (Grey_) wrote:
I have to agree this is ridiculous. I dont think you should be able to
patent the pinch to zoom or slide your finger to the right to unlock.
Imagine if the double click was patented, or the keyboard layout was
patented, or drawing a square to select multiple files was patented.....
Sat Aug 25 2012 11:47:19 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Recommended (49)
Report abuse
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发帖数: 3322 | 26 CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist who
declared a socialist revolution in Venezuela, crusaded against U.S.
influence and championed a leftist revival across Latin America, died
Tuesday at age 58 after a nearly two-year bout with cancer.
Vice President Nicolas Maduro, surrounded by other government officials,
announced the death in a national television broadcast. He said Chavez died
at 4:25 p.m. local time.
During more than 14 years in office, Chavez routinely ch... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 27 说是Bill去年那么卖力推销O8连任是先有交易支持希拉里2016，现在D党大佬表态效忠
已经开始了。
The Hillary bandwagon
By A.B. Stoddard
Ready for Hillary? You better be.
Just six months into President Obama’s second term, the 2016 coronation for
his former rival has begun, and Vice President Biden — ever the bridesmaid
, who for three decades has harbored his own presidential hopes — has
largely been abandoned by his party. It’s Hillary for president, period.
The super-PAC named Ready for Hillary, designed to “draft her,” has been
vacuuming... 阅读全帖 |
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m**********j
发帖数: 8645 | 28 赶快办理绿卡
3,500 Morsi loyalists arrested in 5 days – Brotherhood lawyerEgypt’s
security forces hav........ |
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T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 29 这家餐馆在CHICAGO郊区，已经多年雄踞美国单一饭店营业额冠军了。一家店一年卖
2400万美元（不算酒水），还是很牛的吧？
How Bob Chinn's Crab House Became The Highest-Grossing Restaurant In The U.S.
Top-Grossing Restaurants
see photos
Matthew Gilson For Forbes
Click for full photo gallery: Top-Grossing Restaurants
Bob Chinn was 59 years old when he started the business that would come to
define him. The determined entrepreneur had already headed 13 businesses,
all catering to the restaurant industry, when along with his daughter
Marilyn, he opened the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3140 | 30 http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/703978-source-former-top-commun
A formerly powerful backroom operator and one of the top officials in the
Chinese Communist Party is now under a form of “internal control,”
according to a source with knowledge of the circumstances.
The activities and public appearances of Zeng Qinghong, the official, are
being restricted, the source said. Control of Zeng was said to be instituted
on orders of Xi Jinping because he came to see Zeng as a threat to his rule
and even ... 阅读全帖 |
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m***n
发帖数: 12188 | 31 美国怎么不是？
不谈独立战争，独立后杀了多少loyalists? 多少人逃亡加拿大？亲英的印地安人就不
提了。
那时候的北方可不是个舒服的地方，没有暖气。抛弃财产，逃亡北方，需要很大的动力
的。
按人口比例，相当于中国革命成功，干掉一亿反革命。 |
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m***n
发帖数: 12188 | 32 分裂的社会，在一定条件下就会这样。
中国：
五毛 － 美分
台湾：
蓝 － 绿
苏丹：
黑人（基督教） － 阿拉伯人 （伊斯兰）
卢旺达：
胡图人 － 图西人
复活节岛：
长耳族 － 短耳族
东罗马：
iconoclast - iconodule
革命前的美国：
loyalist - separatist
大革命的法国：
雅各兵 － 机伦特
南斯拉夫：
东正教（塞尔维亚） － 伊斯兰（波斯尼亚） － 天主教（克罗地亚）
乌克兰：
脱俄入欧派（天主教） － 斯拉夫同胞派（东正教）
历史上的波兰：
脱俄入欧派（天主教） － 斯拉夫同胞派（东正教）
不过波兰一派把另外一派灭光了，自然就已经和谐了。 |
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发帖数: 22064 | 33 http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-chinese-crack-up-1425659
The Coming Chinese Crackup
By
David Shambaugh
March 6, 2015 11:26 a.m. ET
The endgame of communist rule in China has begun, and Xi Jinping's ruthless
measures are only bringing the country closer to a breaking point
Chinese President Xi Jinping, front center, and other Chinese leaders attend
the opening meeting on Thursday of the third session of the National People
's Congress at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. Photo: Xinh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9770 | 34 http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20150804/c04defector/dual/
Chinese Businessman Thought to Have Fled to U.S. Further Strains Ties
By MICHAEL FORSYTHE and MARK MAZZETTI
August 4, 2015
傅才德, MARK MAZZETTI 2015年8月4日 LOOMIS, Calif. — China is demanding that
the Obama administration return a wealthy and politically connected
businessman who fled to the United States, according to several American
officials familiar with the case, and should he seek political asylum he
could become one of the most damaging ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 35 加拿大的重要省份ontario,其实是美国的loyalist到了加拿大建立的。可见2国本质上
是一样的白人社会。 |
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o***n
发帖数: 2074 | 36 这个好， 看看nyt的报道。
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/world/asia/obama-xi-staff-shouting-match.html?_r=0
一系列冲突，中国崛起了。
HANGZHOU, China — Air Force One had a bumpy landing in Hangzhou on Saturday
, but it was nothing compared with what happened after the plane rolled to a
stop.
As the reporters who traveled to the Group of 20 summit meeting with
President Obama from Hawaii piled out and walked under the wing to record
his arrival, we were abruptly met by a line of bright blue tape, held taut
by securit... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 37 I voted for Trump
Let's see-
repeal of Obamacare- nope
Lowering of taxes- nope
building of wall- nope
draining the swamp- nope
helping the vets- nope
passong of one new law through Congress to roll back any Obama laws- nope
Doing something about the inner city crimes and killing- nope
Lowering of drug prices- nope
Holding any of the Obama administration or Clinton cartel responsible for
crimes -nope
Starting a new war in a foreign country that has no strategic importance to
the US- YES
Filling y... 阅读全帖 |
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x******h
发帖数: 13678 | 38 对公务舱和头等舱还有金卡用户不好，那是作大死的行为，这些人基本都是大客户、大
公司的员工和loyalist |
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W*****B
发帖数: 4796 | 39 最让床铺愤怒的还是女婿遭受的屈辱。过去一周所有媒体万炮齐轰对准库什纳。床铺感
觉万分悲哀，自己身为一国之君，居然不能为女婿挡箭。现在床铺估计后悔当选了这个
总统，每天被架在火上烤。想想以前地产大亨的日子和真人秀节目时候，多悠哉啊。
Inside the White House, aides over the past week have described an air of
anxiety and volatility — with an uncontrollable commander in chief at its
center.
These are the darkest days in at least half a year, they say, and they worry
just how much farther President Trump and his administration may plunge
into unrest and malaise before they start to recover. As one official put it
Tr... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 40 Polls open in Venezuela as Maduro seeks reelection
Mariano Castillo-Profile-Image
Marilia Brocchetto, Senior News Editor, International Desk
By Mariano Castillo and Marilia Brocchetto, CNN
Updated 1215 GMT (2015 HKT) May 20, 2018
A man walks past graffiti in support of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro,
A man walks past graffiti in support of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro,
(CNN)Polls opened in Venezuela on Sunday for the nation's presidential
election.
President Nicolas Maduro is seeking... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 41 The U.S. Government infringes on our liberty tenfold the amount the British
did, the idea that we're this Democratic liberated free speech is pushed in
schools, you could spend your entire life unlearning that type of garbage.
Believing that we're any different from the Russians or any third world
country because we elect a dictator from a small pool of multi-million or
billionaires, giving the illusion of choice makes you a disgusting loyalist
redcoat |
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t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 43 The former Tea Party representative from Kansas
ex-spymaster 中央情报局局长
Trump's loyalist diplomat 国务卿
以后必定出头选总统的哈 ～～ |
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z****g
发帖数: 3509 | 44 看到一篇文章，说的虽然和土鳖国毫无关系，而是说的我帝的公司，但是如果知道土鳖
国情况的，对比一下，妈的太吓人了。这人有才。小黄人就没有人能写这样的文章，就
算是王沪宁你拿枪指着他，他也写不出来。哀叹买提为什么没有highlight功能。这里
面至少一半的句子值得highlight后再细细品味。
Fascism
The dual opposite of a republic would be a society where the governed must
compete, merely to survive. Meanwhile, the powerful are immune to challenge
from below. There is only one political party and it will always be that way
. Those with power have no responsibilities to those below them, because
power is subject to no appeal but itself.
T... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 45 This is what happens when you have someone who thinks he is always the
smartest person in the room and surrounds himself with toadies, loyalists
and grifters whose primary function is to protect him and stroke his fragile
and childish but nonetheless oversized ego. I like Mayor Pete's response
when asked about how would handle the current crisis....he promised he would
never be the smartest person in the room when a crisis involves something
he knows nothing about. |
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w*********s
发帖数: 2136 | 46 【 以下文字转载自 WorldNews 讨论区 】
发信人: whiteclouds (/ 参考消息 /), 信区: WorldNews
标 题: 卡恩遭陷害分析
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 18 19:47:48 2011, 美东)
The Strauss Kahn Frame-Up
The Amerikan Police State Strides Forward
By Paul Craig Roberts
5-18-11
The International Monetary Fund's director, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, was
arrested last Sunday in New York City on the allegation of an immigrant
hotel maid that he attempted to rape her in his hotel room. A New York judge
has denied Strauss-Kahn bail on the grounds that he ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8422 | 47 利比亚反对派内战了，四人死
Rival rebel factions clash in Libya, 4 dead
BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Clashes between rival factions of the Libyan rebels
killed four people Sunday in the opposition stronghold of Benghazi,
deepening the worst crisis so far for the movement after its chief military
commander was killed, possibly by fighters from his own side.
One group of rebels overran the base of another rogue faction suspected of
breaking fighters who support longtime Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi out of
an opposit... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 13789 | 48 Democracy In Egypt An Uncertainty, Analysts Fear
February 11, 2011
Egyptians welcomed military rule Friday with a massive display of joy.
Protesters across Cairo reveled at the victory they had wrought, and
Egyptian reporters on cable TV channels were reduced to tears as they sought
to convey their happiness.
But many questions remain about what comes next — and there are strong
doubts about whether military rule will lead to the demonstrators' ultimate
goal: a credible transition to democracy.
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发帖数: 2249 | 49 A former Hillary Clinton loyalist says Barack Obama should focus more on
Sarah Palin’s readiness to lead, and that she still needs to be “tested”
on that ability.
“I would deal with this differently, and not because (Palin) is a woman,”
Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California told FOX News.
Noting John McCain’s “four bouts of a notoriously invasive cancer,” she
questioned whether the first-term Alaska governor and Republican vice
presidential nominee could handle the pressure of the White |
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发帖数: 29846 | 50 Telecom executive Donald H. Gips raised a big bundle of cash to help finance
his friend Barack Obama’s run for the presidency.
Gips, a vice president of Colorado-based Level 3 Communications, delivered
more than $500,000 in contributions for the Obama war chest, while two other
company executives collected at least $150,000 more.
After the election, Gips was put in charge of hiring in the Obama White
House, helping to place loyalists and fundraisers in many key positions.
Then, in mid-2009, Obam... 阅读全帖 |
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