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s********8
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来自主题: Medicine版 - looking for doctor/expert in Lupus
Hi all,
My daughter just returned from China, but she got serious sick named Lupus (
lupus erythematosus/subacute cutaneous lupus) in skin
we are looking for the expert/ doctor who has deeply research/experience in
this area such as diagnosis, treatment etc. It would be greatly appreciated
if some one could help me provide some information. thanks.
email : h***************[email protected] or reply this 帖
e*******g
发帖数: 40
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Lupus can do everything
意思是说,lupus可累及身体的各个系统。
lupus 属于自身免疫疾病,治疗主要以调节免疫系统为主,目前还是比较棘手的。
d*******1
发帖数: 2253
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Lupus is an auto-immune system disease. Chinese is 红斑狼疮. 年轻妇女长见,严
重的可能致命.但长见的是慢性的.发生传统的治疗是用STERIOD, 便宜但有很多副作用.
详情可以看LUPUS FOUNDATION 的网站. 病人是老人,恐怕只能用保守治疗了. 现在有
好几家公司在研发LUPUS DRUG,最早的可能年底会被批准.
s*****a
发帖数: 688
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus
I was diagnosed with lupus (SLE) in 3 years ago. I have been suffering from
joint pain during winter time. The doctor let me to take Prednisone now. And
it works well, beside low white blood cell and thin hairs,that keep my life
go back to normal. I even climbed up Mt.Whitney recently. My question is,
what's the average living year for lupus patients? I already prepare for
the worst, set my husband free,wrote a will, take everyday as the first day
of the rest of my life. follow my to-do-list,
f******I
发帖数: 769
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus

from
And
life
,
day
Picchu
reminds me of the movie, bucket list,
live everyday as if it's your last day, that probably what everybody else
should be doing, whether they have end stage cancer, or not,
lupus has much improved survival since late 80s, i think it's about 90% in 5
year, the main causes of death in early part of disease is infection(either
from lupus or from the medications such as immunosuppressants), neuro
involvement, cardiac involvement, while in late stage is often kidney
failur
s*****a
发帖数: 688
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus
Thank you very much fatmanII, it's such warm heart response. and I quite
value the information that you provided.
For now, my only sympton just joint pain and low blood cell count(as low as
1/3 with normal people). I purchase a long term disable care insurance, just
in case I might need it. I was thought I am tough enough to fight for Lupus
by myself. recently, I found I am kind of depress, and start to seeking
help from psychotherapy. Is it any relate with the lupus medicine that I
took? thank
f******I
发帖数: 769
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus

as
just
Lupus
if you have only joints pain. you can normally start with NSAIDS, sometimes
plaquenil is used for joints problems,
try to avoid steroid as possible, unless you have renal or neuro involvement,
lupus could cause depression or any other psychiatric disorder such as
psychosis,then again chronic disease would cause depression also,
good luck and best wishes,
L****a
发帖数: 572
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus 新药
Lupus drug passes key test, researchers say
The experimental drug Benlysta greatly reduced symptoms of the life-
threatening autoimmune disorder, says Human Genome Sciences. The findings
offer hope that a 50-year drought in new drugs may end.
By Thomas H. Maugh II
3:09 PM PDT, July 20, 2009
After a 50-year drought of new drugs and a string of disappointing failures
of potential treatments for lupus, researchers said Monday they have found
an experimental drug that can ameliorate the symptoms of
o****i
发帖数: 2
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 请推荐lupus医生 (转载)
In Boston area.
【 以下文字转载自 Boston 讨论区 】
发信人: oucici (IOIOI), 信区: Boston
标 题: 请推荐lupus医生
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 13 14:40:53 2015, 美东)
要搬到boston来。请推荐看lupus的rheumatologist。谢谢。

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来自主题: Medicine版 - 家族遗传性lupus能活多久
来美第二年和男朋友好了,他真的是一个很体贴的男人,也非常爱我,我也准备毕业后就和他结婚的。可是,最近因为进了医院,他才跟我承认他得了lupus。
平时感觉和男朋友挺虚弱的,可是我一直很讨厌太强悍的男人所以也没觉得怎么样,只觉得他真的挺帅的。可是前几天他告诉我他进医院做了脑部手术,我才了解到以前的他为什么会这样。
Lupus是个immune system的问题,家族遗传的,所以就算我们以后结婚,他也不准备要孩子,因为实在太容易遗传给下一代了。这次做完手术,他的小脑压力被释放后大脑接收信息也变得特别敏感。以前就不喜阳光现在更加对光线以及声音都特别敏感。但我真的很爱他,所以我觉得这些我们都能克服。
现在他有自己接一些设计的活,所以我俩的生活是没问题的。这次手术的恢复期需要3个月到1年,我一定会陪他一起走过。
可是我妈说以前我们隔壁邻居就是得了这个病死的,这种人活不长。包括男朋友的父母也已经不健在。
我就想问问有没有学医的见过这些病例,到底能活多久,我很害怕死亡,虽然离不开他,但如果他真的活不长的话,我不想嫁给他,不想最后一个人孤零零的在美国生活。
g8
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The first new treatment for lupus in a half-century won U.S. approval on
Wednesday, a milestone for patients with the disabling disease and a
potential blockbuster for tiny biotech company Human Genome Sciences.
Health officials cleared Benlysta for certain patients with active lupus who
are receiving standard therapy. The disease causes the immune system to
attack joints and organs and has proved tough to study and treat.
Human Genome will split profits from the drug with GlaxoSmithKline.
In cl... 阅读全帖
L****a
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来自主题: Medicine版 - Lupus 新药
记得前段时间有个人患 Lupus 在这里发文. 这则消息也许有用.
j**f
发帖数: 7403
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lupus? 确定? 这病目前还是不治之症吧?

RT. Thanks!
s*******t
发帖数: 7746
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 脖子有蝴蝶斑,是Lupus?
1,2个月前突然脖子上有几处狭长红印,大概2厘米长,1/3厘米宽,偶尔有点痒,
也没在意。今天变得越来越痒了,照镜子发现变成了3个椭圆形的像蝴蝶翅膀一样红印
,只有外围一圈是红的,放狗搜了一下,像是butterfly rash,天啊,我不会得了Lupus
了吧,请指点这些红印是什么东东?
b********i
发帖数: 1252
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 脖子有蝴蝶斑,是Lupus?
快去看医生吧
不过您这个斑的位置好像不是

Lupus
c****i
发帖数: 150
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来自主题: Medicine版 - LUPUS
我在春秋季有膝关节痛,有时脚痛肿,有HAIR LOSS。起初以为痛风,可是化验却发现
ANA高,然后ANTI dsDNA阳性,RNP 弱阳性,Sm 弱阳性。医生没有进一步查说我SLE可
疑,让我吃Hydroxychloroquine 3个月再查血。
请问什么可以确诊LUPUS还是这几个指标就足够了?想找一个SECOND OPINION。 这个药
会永久伤害视觉,而且也为什么可以工作到现在也没有研究清楚。 谢谢
c****i
发帖数: 150
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来自主题: Medicine版 - LUPUS
要命的是LUPUS无药可治,我中了万分之一的彩票
l*****y
发帖数: 5737
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来自主题: Medicine版 - LUPUS
临床上诊断lupus有一个诊断标准,11条符合4条就可以。
另外没研究清楚的病比研究清楚的病多多了。
l*****y
发帖数: 5737
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来自主题: Medicine版 - LUPUS
anti dsDNA, anti Sm都是lupus相对特异性比较高的抗体了,C3低表示病情目前处于活
动状态。定期看专科定期复查吧
c****i
发帖数: 150
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来自主题: Medicine版 - LUPUS
多谢,专科医生也是这么说的,LUPUS会导致CH50高是吗
M****o
发帖数: 13571
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【 以下文字转载自 Medicine 讨论区 】
发信人: Minsco (Love Peanut!), 信区: Medicine
标 题: 请教:八十多的老人得了Lupus,在美国治疗容易吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 2 10:30:30 2010, 美东)
RT. Thanks!
m*r
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t*******k
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就是说免疫系统把健康细胞当有疾病的细胞一样杀死。不同种的lupus可能损伤人体的
不同部位如关节,皮肤,血管和内脏器官。目前没有测试和痊愈的治疗方法。只能通过
药物和改变生活方式加以控制。
l********a
发帖数: 3058
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Minsco (Love Peanut!) 于 (Thu Sep 2 10:51:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
发信人: Minsco (Love Peanut!), 信区: Medicine
标 题: 请教:八十多的老人得了Lupus,在美国治疗容易吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 2 10:30:30 2010, 美东)
RT. Thanks!
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Minsco (Love Peanut!) 于 (Thu Sep 2 10:52:38 2010, 美东) 提到:
省版人气高,问问大家看看。多谢啦!
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winning2008 (mi ya and mi la) 于 (Thu Sep 2 11:01:18 2010, 美东) 提到:
主要是保险哦。。。要买什么样的保险呢?
我妈一个同事,也是
c****t
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来自主题: Boston版 - doctor for lupus
One 12 years old girl from upstairs Chinese neighbor has system lupus, which
affect her kidney. Her parents let me ask who know where has the best
doctor in Boston area.
pls let me know if you have some hints.
tks.
c****t
发帖数: 194
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来自主题: Boston版 - doctor for lupus
thanks for your reply.
They need one specific doctor. Which doctor has very good medical ability
for the diagnosis and treatment for lupus?
she will have white insurance card.
o****i
发帖数: 2
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来自主题: Boston版 - 请推荐lupus医生
要搬到boston来。请推荐看lupus的rheumatologist。谢谢。
a******u
发帖数: 211
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有一些关于lupus animal model的问题想咨询一下,谢谢!
f*****y
发帖数: 464
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来自主题: Medicalpractice版 - 对Lupus有临床经验的朋友们请进 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 MedicalCareer 讨论区 】
发信人: firefly (飞萤扑火), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 对Lupus有临床经验的朋友们请进
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 11 15:06:23 2013, 美东)
一位在美国做医生的朋友托我打听一下这个文章是否可靠。她的女儿有SLE,用西医治
疗效果不理想。她自己做医生的也不得不考虑其他方法,在中国的网站上搜到这篇文章。
这个医院叫北京医博堂国际医学研究所,网址是:http://hblc.dongfangjiandu.com/
请有这方面临床背景的各位朋友帮忙看一下下面这篇文章的内容可信吗?
目前国内有没有真有效的中西医结合的治疗方法?
多谢。祝各位都考到高分,顺利行医!
我国红斑狼疮新技术被国际医学组织收录
WWW.SRZC.COM 发布时间:2012-08-27 11:00 文章来源:未知
随着科学技术的进步,红斑狼疮也取得突破性进展。近日,一篇关于《中国高新技术治
愈红斑狼疮》的报道在国际免疫学权威杂志美国免疫学会会刊上刊登。文章指出:随着
我国医疗技术的澎湃发展... 阅读全帖
y*****l
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来自主题: _pennystock版 - HGSI
bot 11. Target cut to 15 from 25.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/302210-today-s-weakness-in-huma
Human Genome Sciences Inc.'s (HGSI) September quarter report announced after
the close yesterday included sales figures for its lead BENLYSTA drug for
lupus that imply a slower ramp-up than is currently built into Wall Street
forward estimates. The company missed both revenue ($34 million versus $36.8
million) and earnings (45c loss versus 38c loss) estimates for the
September quarter.
Furthermore, ... 阅读全帖
g*****j
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来自主题: ChineseMed版 - 中医的几点思考
Medical evidence has different quality.
Level I: at least one well designed randomized study.
Level II: trial without randomization, retrospective studies etc
Level III: case report, clinical experience, expert opinion etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence-based_medicine
30 years ago, medical literatures are filled with level III evidence.
But in today's medicine, level III evidence is not considered
significant at all.
Now what is the quality of evidence that you provided? It is not even ... 阅读全帖
g*****j
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来自主题: ChineseMed版 - 中医的几点思考
Cerebrex is an COX2 NSAIDs. NSAIDs are used in almost all joint and
musculoskeletal pain. Lupus arthritis is a joint disease caused
specifically by an antoimmune disorder. When in active disease, patient
can experience terrible pain in joints as well as injuries to other
vital organs. If the patient has active lupus, doctor will not only
prescribe Cerebrex. If the patient is only taking Cerebrex, that
means his doctor thinks that his lupus was in good control during the
last visit. As a ma... 阅读全帖
m*********x
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 求救:老婆已经发烧两星期了
谢谢你的回复。
是这样的:大概去年十月,十一月份的时候开始每次月经来的时候淋巴肿大,月经结束
后淋巴慢慢变小或消失。这个月初又是这样,月经来了,淋巴肿起来,不一样的是这次
还伴随发烧,一烧到现在。发烧的时候觉得冷,吃退烧药才会觉得好。人是极端疲惫,
不过食欲很好。目前医生排除了这几个东西:mononucleosis,lupus。目前做CT是为了
看是不是lymphoma。
值得一提的是四年以前她得过mononucleosis,两三个星期后她觉得好了,回去上班两
星期后月经一来,淋巴肿大加发烧,于是又开始看医生(infectious disease)。两个月
后自己康复,医生一直也没有结论。期间医生也怀疑过lymphoma,还照了CT,结果医生
看了觉得lymphoma可能不大,没建议biopsy。不过当时发烧归发烧,没有极端疲惫的感
觉。
这次这个血液与癌症医生一开始以为是lupus,因为她姐姐有,而且二月份一次血检ANA
positive。但是几天前专门查lupus又是negative。
你说的autoimmune disease除了lupus还有哪些可能?看autoimmune d... 阅读全帖
h********r
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来自主题: Stock版 - Strongly recommend HGSI
Strongly recommend HGSI! I put 1/5 of my money in stock position and only 1/
100 of my money in calls.
Also take your own responsibility!!!
BTW, You know I strongly recommended JCG couple days ago. The people, who
followed my recommendations to buy JCG, should actively give me some baozi.
发信人: happymaker (happymaker), 信区: pennystock
标 题: Recommend HGSI
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 23 12:19:50 2010, 美东)
I knew a little about LUPUS since I did have a presentation about lupus many
years ago. So far no... 阅读全帖
h********r
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来自主题: _pennystock版 - Recommend HGSI
I knew a little about LUPUS since I did have a presentation about lupus many
years ago. So far no effective FDA-approved drugs specifically for lupus.
If HGSI's lupus drug can be approved, it will be first one. You know FDA's
panel committee recommended by 13:2 several days ago. On Dec 9, it will be
finally decided by FDA. The problem is that FDA has certain concerns about
suicide and efficiency.
My personal view is that FDA will ask more data for HGSI (positive signal)
or approve HGSI drug fo... 阅读全帖
b***b
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Lupus.
你可以到 lupus 网站去了解
http://www.lupus.org/resources/prescription-assistance

好?
c********e
发帖数: 496
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 疑难病症求教
ANA大于1:32,首先看分型,颗粒型或者边缘型,但是有的是有意义的,有的没有,具
体哪个是哪个,忘了,你自己google一下。但是更重要的是看dsDNA antibody, sm
antibody,这个是诊断用的。 看是不是有lupus。
如果确诊有lupus,就不需要做肝穿。 治疗的原则都差不多
有自免溶贫的病史,增加了lupus的可能, 都是免疫系统出问题了/
一般来讲,免疫性肝炎在早期是b超是看不到变化的。
另外,如果最后的诊断只是免疫性肝炎,就说明没有找到明确的病因。 免疫性肝炎是
一个很宽泛的概念。
D**0
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 申请三藩版版主 (转载)
Ditto.
........According to J. Randy Taraborrelli's biography, in 1986, Jackson was
diagnosed with vitiligo and lupus; the vitiligo partially lightened his
skin, and the lupus was in remission; both illnesses made him sensitive to
sunlight, which could have caused his lupus condition to recur.[1] To treat
these conditions, Jackson used Solaquin, Tretinoin and Benoquin. He also had
hydroxychloroquine injected directly into his scalp regularly.[1] The
treatments he used for his condition further l
a******r
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来自主题: ChineseMed版 - 中医的几点思考
一个人撒了一次谎,他就没啥credibility 了,
这话可是你说的。
这话可是你说的。
这话可是你说的。
http://www.revolutionhealth.com/drugs-treatments/rating/celebre
好了,我不多说了。倪海厦是不是保留病案你去FDA查吧。不过我也不会相信你了。

:An author's credibility is always presumed. But such credibility will
:be taken away forever, if someone is ever found lying. Actually 倪海厦
:is not good at making up stories at all, because his medical background
:is so limited. Let me show you an example.
:红癍性狼疮
:Lupus患者,52岁。服Celebrax止痛。- this is an interesting statement,
because
:Cele... 阅读全帖
g*****j
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来自主题: ChineseMed版 - 中医的几点思考
Happy new year!
I am glad that you suspect what I said, and did your homework. This is
the way it should be.
I wish there is a cure for lupus too. But I would not believe any such
stories by a doctor saying he cured lupus. Let's be reasonable. If
there is a doctor who can cure lupus in the US, and we are talking about
curing White people, would you expect some news in the American
mainstream media? There are so many miracles circulating among the
Chinese media. If any of these is true, ho... 阅读全帖
s********o
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【 以下文字转载自 MedicalCareer 讨论区 】
发信人: herby (小臭宝), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: [合集] 你有生以来做出的最佳临床诊断是什么?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jun 2 00:01:26 2011, 美东)
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Aplusplus (Hakuna Matata) 于 (Sun Mar 27 11:11:49 2011, 美东) 提到:
首先我申明,我放弃我的ignore list, 欢迎所有ID参加。
每个医生护士或者其他相关人员, 无论在中国还是美国, 肯定都有一些case刻骨铭心
。 请大家把你印象最深的一例写出来, 与大家分享。 比方说, 清华男被鉈杀案,
那个中国来的护士就是诊断的关键, 相信本例就是她一辈子也忘不了的诊断。
我觉得这样的讨论有助于大家提高学医热情,丰富医学知识,开拓临床思维, 间接帮
助考版医生复习,准备CS,和 interview. 你要是能从中挑一个case让你PD
impressed,我想我的... 阅读全帖
s********o
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【 以下文字转载自 MedicalCareer 讨论区 】
发信人: herby (小臭宝), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: [合集] 你有生以来做出的最佳临床诊断是什么?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jun 2 00:01:26 2011, 美东)
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Aplusplus (Hakuna Matata) 于 (Sun Mar 27 11:11:49 2011, 美东) 提到:
首先我申明,我放弃我的ignore list, 欢迎所有ID参加。
每个医生护士或者其他相关人员, 无论在中国还是美国, 肯定都有一些case刻骨铭心
。 请大家把你印象最深的一例写出来, 与大家分享。 比方说, 清华男被鉈杀案,
那个中国来的护士就是诊断的关键, 相信本例就是她一辈子也忘不了的诊断。
我觉得这样的讨论有助于大家提高学医热情,丰富医学知识,开拓临床思维, 间接帮
助考版医生复习,准备CS,和 interview. 你要是能从中挑一个case让你PD
impressed,我想我的... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Medicalpractice版 - 好诡异的一个临床案例啊
The antibody testing in APS is tricky, it is not as easy as what it is
printed in book. The different ab carries different weight in regarding the
tendency to form clot. LA is the most important and up to 25% of lupus
patients have them and it can be the first presenting lab abnormality for
lupus that fully develops later on. Cardiolipin and b2GP are much less
important ab and it is rare to have APS with just antibody positivity of one
of these two. The false positive testings are very frequent... 阅读全帖
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Good question! HUVS and HUV are different entities. HUVS can be caused by
lupus. 我那个病人,所有的血清学检查都是阴性的(所有你能想到的, commercially
available的抗体),除了关节炎没有lupus的11条表现,没办法给lupus的诊断。他还
做了好多次淋巴结和骨髓的穿刺活检,血液系统肿瘤也排除了。
Sometimes we do give patients a diagnosis of "evolving autoimmune process",
if it smells like autoimmune process. 但是这个病人,我感觉不是adaptive
immune system的问题。
不好意思,主要是考虑到HIPPA,不能再讨论了。
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土人俺本来在leisuretime版回了些帖,觉得可以总结起来,另外开一个贴了。发在这
儿。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/LeisureTime/1735253_0_1.html
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找点乐子借本帖积攒一下各个名字的来历?
我先贡献两个。
Hermione 这个名字来自古希腊神话,是斯巴达的公主,传说她妈海伦跟特洛伊的王子
Paris私奔了,他爹纠集了一帮英雄好汉渡海去围攻特洛伊,双方大战十年死伤无数,
最后放木马焚城……然后hermione她爹妈和好如初……好像跑题了。
Minerva这个名字来自罗马的知识,魔法,医药,商业和防御女神,和希腊的雅典娜是
一个神。如下图为美国国会图书馆的Minerva画像。
Minerva或者athena出现的时候会有一只“猫头鹰”,一根长矛,一个头盔,Aegis(包
括一个用蛇发女妖的头装饰的盾牌和(或)一个用蛇发女妖的头装饰的兽皮甲)和胜利女
神Nike。实际上Minerva这个名字一出现,结局就已经暴漏了。
土人俺来分析一下Harry Potter, Ron Weasley和... 阅读全帖
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哈利波特里面人名的一些历史痕迹
Harry Potter
Harry来自古代德语名字Haimric, Haim对应英语里Home,ric对应英语里的Reich和rich
,这个词是“一家之主,说话算数的人”的意思。Harry还有可能是来自维京人的名字
Harold,是“一军之主”的意思,反正也是“说话算数的人”。
当年维京人拿下了不列颠半壁江山,大致如下图。
除了给不列颠留下大量的维京人名字和地名外,这些维京人还烧毁了大量的古英语的文
字。导致我们现在说的英语用的是经济发达的伦敦地区的发音,写的英文用的是起源于
没被维京人占领的Wessex的拼写……
有个说法说Potter是一个诺曼底名字,当年来自诺曼底的征服者威廉姆征服英格兰的时
候手下有个姓Potter的人因为战功卓著而被封了一块地,从此英国有了Potter这个姓。
所以不出意外的话Harry Potter应该是诺曼底人后裔。
诺曼底人也是来自北欧的维京人。有一年维京海盗围攻巴黎,法国国王为了解围把不列
塔尼(Britannia)旁边的一片地皮给了维京人,被称为Normandy->north-man-dy。
Britannia的人... 阅读全帖
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找到了, 这英文很chingish 。
但贝至诚自己说的是“找到一个美国朋友翻译成地道的英语”,他为啥撒这个慌。
Hi,
This is Peking University in China, a place of those dreams of freedom and
democracy. However, a young, 21-year old student has become very sick and is
dying. The illness is very rare. Though they have tried, doctors at the
best hospitals in Beijing cannot cure her; many do not even know what
illness it is. So now we are asking the world -- can somebody help us?
Here is a description of the illness:
The young woman -- her name is Zhu L... 阅读全帖
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“对此案我又没有充当神探发表什么新奇看法。我只是说,我反对搞网络公审,没有证
据而是靠传言和推测就指名道姓指控某人是凶手,这实际上是侵犯人权的,而如果你愿
意这么干,声称这种做法是恰当的,那么你也应该接受别人反过来这么搞你。这还不够
客观全面吗?”
“ 我没有说贝志诚就是凶手。目前也没有任何证据表明中毒发生在宿舍,说中毒发生
在宿舍也是贝志诚说的。据说有两次投毒,任何涉及饮食的两次接触都有可能,比如在
校外的同学聚餐之类。”
“我找到了UCLA网站当年记录朱案远程诊断的原始材料,在北大学生收到的答复中,总
共有84个人正确诊断出是铊中毒。贝志诚却声称收到1500封(有时说3000封)电子邮件
,他编程做关键词过滤、归类,发现有30%的答复诊断是铊中毒。贝志诚为什么要说谎
?”
“贝志诚在1995年4月10日发出求助信,因是发到医生活跃的新闻组的,到28日确诊时
为止,十几天内能收到1500封电子邮件的答复并不奇怪。这些答复是发到贝的邮箱,他
说自己编程用关键词过滤后发现有30%的答复诊断是铊中毒,所以去找了协和,不被理
睬,才自己去动员朱家去做铊中毒检测。但是原始记录表明实际上总共是8... 阅读全帖
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我看比较可能的情况,是这信是请美国人写的。
有很多美国文字的痕迹。
但中间有些错误,有可能是后来几经修改,或者录入电脑的时候出错的——毕竟那时候
一般人都不用电脑,大部分的写作都是写在纸上的,不大可能那个美国人写成
soft copy给贝的,因此存在一个录入错误的可能性。
The SOS E-mail Message from Peking University
Hi,
This is Peking University in China, a place of those dreams of freedom and
democracy.
这句怪怪,但dreams--> dream,做动词,立即通顺;如果of--> for更通顺。
However, a young, 21-year old student has become very sick and is dying.
这句是非常地道的。绝大多数中国人都写不出来的。young和21-year-old 中间的逗号
,是非常地道的用法。has become ... and is ... 时态是正确的。
The illness is v... 阅读全帖
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百科名片
石毓智,男,1963年10月生,河南洛阳人,斯坦福大学博士、湖南师范大学特聘教授、
新加坡国立大学终身教职(Associate Professor with Tenure)。在7家出版社出版过
11本中英文学术专著;在37种不同的学术刊物上,发表论文130余篇。过去几年应邀在
50余所大学做过100余场演讲,《中华读书报》、《博览群书》、《文汇读书报》、美
国的Language、荷兰的Studies in Languages等刊登书评,予以高度的评价。
石毓智博客
http://blog.sina.com.cn/shi63
方舟子5月7日的微博:贝志诚回忆说:“找到一个美国朋友翻译成地道的英语,我拿着
它去学校和蔡全清一起去系里的机房在四月十日周一晚上发出了这封求救邮件”。但是
看信的原文,绝对不可能是美国人写的地道英语,而是中国人写的中式英语。贝志诚为
什么要撒谎?(英文求助信附后)。
通过下面的分析可以知道,贝志成这封信不是地道的英文,而是很蹩脚的中式英文,
肯定没有找过“美国朋友”,但是有可能求助于在美国学习的中国留学生。一般人可能
看不出来这封信的英语问题,我选择... 阅读全帖
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