f****e
发帖数: 553 | 1 Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my
trip a month ago with it.
I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after
the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second
at Shira Cave. One of us even threw up but fortunately recovered after one
Diamox pill. The third day was tough even though the trail was flat. I felt
quite good on the fourth day until reached Baranf in freezing snow shower,
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 2 Yes, I am with Xun and he made it.
"the trail was flat" on the third day. So you did not go pass the lava tower?
I can definitely walk in a straight line and can definitely count on my
summit push. Seem that I give up too easily? Hehe.
Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my
trip a month ago with it.
I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after
the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second
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发帖数: 1697 | 3 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
bx1838 (海轮大兵) 于 (Mon Oct 26 01:18:23 2009, 美东) 提到:
乞力马扎罗可能是非技术登山爱好者的顶峰啦,由于它独特的地理位置,山顶不是像其他
高峰一样被冰雪覆盖,不要绳索或冰抓之类的,就可走到海拔5895米的山顶上.对于像我
这样不爬墙的,走上了乞力马扎罗山顶就是人生的顶峰.
乞力马扎罗另一个特点是它不是群山,很远就能看到它耸立在那里. Kenya Amboseli NP
就号称是 Kilimanjaro Courtyard. 它的经典Poster照就是乞力马扎罗远山、合欢树、大
象的景:
清晨时还能把它倒放在游池中:
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bx1838 (海轮大兵) 于 (Mon Oct 26 01:32:28 2009, 美东) 提到:
我们走是六天的Machame路线:
在去Machame Gate 途中就"拍"不急待了一下乞力马扎:
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R**i
发帖数: 7994 | 4 2012.06.21-2012.06.26
斯瓦西里语（Swahili）里面kilima是山，njaro是我们。岂立马扎罗的意思是“我们的
山”。它有3个peak，Kibo, Mawenzi和Shira, 其中最高点Uhuru在Kibo, 5895米。
Uhuru是自由的意思。
说实话在去年之前从未考虑过攀登高山，一来我懒惰，二来我不知道自己的physical
limit, I hardly hiking. 直到在Canadian Rockies一天走了20多公里还没什么累的感
觉，我才感觉到也许我physical是良好的，心血来潮要爬这个山，至于什么trigger了
我，已经不记得了。看到别人爬山游记里说小时候就听说这个地方，或者要在snow cap
消失前亲眼见证, 或者看了海明威的《乞力马扎罗的雪》神往已久，我很惭愧。我小时
候既没听说过这个山，长大了也不关心快消失的snow cap。《乞力马扎罗的雪》还是这
次在乞力马扎罗山上才看完的。只是，非洲最高，听上去很有成就感。
我选择了Machame线路，俗称Whiskey Route，难度中等，风景是最好的，一路上会经过
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发帖数: 42149 | 5 7天6晚徒步攀登海拔5895米的非洲最高峰乞力马扎罗山，超越珠峰大本营的高度——这是上海初中女生朱雨辰送给自己初中毕业的一份厚礼，亦是她献给自己的少女成人礼。
“之所以选择乞力马扎罗山，是因为看了王秋杨的《自由呼吸》这本书，书中说她带着两个儿子成功登顶，因此我们也想试试。”朱雨辰妈妈陈燕萍坦言，虽然之前没有登山经历，却特别想去非洲一显身手。“别人可以，我们也可以。”雨辰妈妈的这句话说来轻松，但直到登顶拿到证书后才知道，全世界仅34万人成功登顶，而小年龄的登山者极少，翻阅这段时间以来的签到本，比朱雨辰年龄小的，只有一名北欧的11岁男孩。
出发
在犹豫焦虑中“不放弃”
坐在舒适的沙发上，向记者描述三周前的登山经历，朱雨辰一脸俏皮。但伴随着相片的记忆，分段回放七天的经历，却充满了“极致痛苦”、“瞬间泪奔”、“大声哭喊”、“整个人都麻木了”的片段故事。的确，在全家再次重温这段挑战人生极限的经历时，任何语言的形容都显得格外苍白。
乞力马扎罗山位于坦桑尼亚东北部，是非洲最高的山脉，也同时是火山和雪山。作为非洲屋脊，该山山顶终年冰雪覆盖，被许多地理学家称为“非洲之王”。
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发帖数: 232 | 6 9/28 第一天很轻松的.
从莫西小镇10点才出发,近11点到Machame门口,那里人山人海,办登记要排队,原后登山
公司要把我们的包裹过磅...到近12点才开拔,不倒6点就到达第一天的营地Machame
Camp.
Machame Gate 人山人海: 挑夫们在称包裹的重量
第一天途经森林中:
第一天营地,乞力马扎罗山顶近了一些: |
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ddtester (昵称) 于 (Thu Sep 11 19:56:26 2008) 提到:
打算12/13出发，飞到Kilimanjaro airport。 先爬山，6天machame route。接着
safari （Ngorongoro Crater and the Serengeti）,5天。然后随便。
现在有几个人说感兴趣，但大多数只想去玩，不爬山，到safari再加入。我想找到至少
一个陪我爬山的。
有兴趣的PM我。
Machame route is a non-technical route, most is hiking along the trail. And
of course, needs to deal with the high altitude. There would be guide/porter
/cooker, just like the Inca trail. You will eat very well if you still have
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R**i
发帖数: 7994 | 8 为什么不直接飞JRO呢？时间合适飞机上可以直接看到岂力马扎罗远景
机票比这个贵一点，但是省下时间了。你这得辗转多少呀。你这样的安排从美国达到
moshi还没爬山呢就得好几天了。内罗毕也不是很安全。moshi倒挺安全的。
爬山小费50每人竟然比看动物还少，50只够一个挑夫的。
safari一天25-30就够了（一辆车），如果看到非常精彩的再多给一些
Marangu路线并不推荐，网上都说这个简单，但这个summit rate并没有其他route高，
因为把高海拔，困难都放在最后头了，前头轻松，风景也是最boring得。Lemosho和
Machame是风景最好的，Machame是most popular route，summit rate很高。 |
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b****8
发帖数: 232 | 9 我们走是六天的Machame路线:
在去Machame Gate 途中就"拍"不急待了一下乞力马扎: |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 10 James Simms, Japan's New Passenger Jet Takes off Into a Perfect Storm. Wall
Street Journal, Sept 24, 2011.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424
053111903703604576588782647706772.html
Note: Geared Turbofan (GTF) is Pratt and Whitney's invention. Whether it is
as good as touted, it is unclear yet.
(a) geared turbofan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geared_turbofan
(The Geared turbofan is a type of turbofan airplane engine, similar to a
turbojet. It consists of a geared ducted fan with a smaller d... 阅读全帖 |
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f******s
发帖数: 10 | 11 auto shop/machamic
in cupertino/sunnyvale/santa clara
thanks! |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 12 First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to
5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate (
up to 5700m) is 90%.
For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance
and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first
day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up
through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second
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发帖数: 39815 | 13 good trip report.
you were almost there
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 14 It is tough to walk > 4500m. I know how it feels...
Don't have to feel too bad about it. Sounds like a great trip! Altitude is
different for everybody even very healthy and active people. For me it took
4 days to get used to it.
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b*********x
发帖数: 362 | 15 thanks for the TR and all the details.
Is the person who summited also the one whose heart rate was only 80+
while two of you were 110+ ?
Have you summited any of the 14ers in US before attempt to climb Kili?
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 16 多谢。
据guide说，顶上和4600m营地的view差不多，所以我其实满开心的，赫赫。
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 17 嗯。他好像对高度一点问题没有，吃的饱，睡的香，看得我个羡慕啊。
没有。唯一的一次失败的尝试也是因为高原反应，而且似乎也是在很低的地方就开始了。
不过我觉得这个真的是case by case... |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 19 nice trip.
maybe i should try to see how my body reacts to high elevation sometime.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 20 did you feel anything when you drove through loveland pass? |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 21 白天2L，我平常sea level一天1000m攀升的爬山平均0.3L，忍一忍可以一天不喝水，所
以这个量对我已经很多了。
Diamox吃了以后，喉咙一直发腥、发干，只能喝。 |
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a***a
发帖数: 40617 | 22 你平常喝水就不太正常（这个不取决于你的渴的程度，而是生理代谢需求）
你高海拔一天2L就更不够了，特别是有高反征兆，就应该加大饮水 |
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发帖数: 362 | 23 我也在找寻对付AMS的好方法，也许真应该象Anoia建议的那样
试试平时带口罩长跑
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 25 嗯，被很多人批评过了，好像我天生就不爱喝水 :-( |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 26 我怎么觉得是这个diamox吃得不好
同行的人吃这个了没? |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 27 ah? this does not work ba |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 29 没有啊。他们看我吃了没啥效果，也就没吃。而且这个第一次吃之前要在低海拔test的。
嗯，我也有点后悔，以前不吃，虽然症状比较严重，但是最多1个晚上过去就一点事情
也没有了，不像这次这么持久。我本来打算备着，不一定吃的，结果这药忒贵了，保险
还不cover，觉着不吃亏了... |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 31 I do not see anything useful
just keep yourself fit |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 32 感觉这个药扰乱了你正常的新陈代谢.
以后别吃了, 按说赤道上,这个海拔高度加上好几天的高海拔适应,应该也就是rainier
的效果,你应该没问题的
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 33 I felt very excited since Vail was right in the front:)
The only time I felt something is on the 3rd night there when I laid down on
bed in hotel(9000ft), I feel my heart rate is like 80+. I suppose to have
around 50-55 when laid down. Not sure if it was caused by beer/coffee/
jacuzzi/sauna. |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 34 lol,你强
我们从盐湖城开车到denver,经过loveland pass的时候,大家都不同程度的感到了海拔
在denver适应了一晚之后,第二天就好多了
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a***a
发帖数: 40617 | 35 同意，最多也就锻炼一下心肺，但是老实说没什么实际用处（除非你本来就是大胖子）
跑步什么练习可以用鼻呼吸可以减缓一些高海拔因为用口呼吸带来的问题，但是这个
也跟高反无关 |
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 38 Nice TR，congrtulations！ |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 39 也有可能吧，走之前一个星期上班非常忙，然后飞了二十多个小时过去，时差都没倒，
直接上去的。第一天就觉得有点累，不应该的。
药可能也有问题，原来不吃，症状是比较严重，但是一般1个晚上过去就没事了...
说到底，还是rp不够好，呵呵~ |
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a***a
发帖数: 40617 | 40 我想这个才是真正的问题所在
你整个身体都是处在紊乱疲劳的状况
我们以前爬雪山，都是先在大本营待2天以上，适应海拔，然后天天大吃大喝（回锅肉
之类大肉片甩开腮帮子狂吃） |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 41 嗯，还是有点轻视这个trip了。
而且也没有那么多时间，3000米以上我基本就什么也不想吃了。 |
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发帖数: 621 | 43 羡慕啊！
有空给你讲讲我在sea level 经历的"高原反应"。。。 |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 46 那个cooker做的东西太油、太甜，我在sea level都很不喜欢的口味。
害得我满世界找果丹皮吃，呵呵 |
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f****e
发帖数: 553 | 47 It costed me only ~$6. So I didn't feel 吃亏 to bring it back :) |
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f****e
发帖数: 553 | 48 Welcome back then! Or are you still in China? I tried to share some of my
experience after I came back but could not find your thread at BAD.
We didn't went all the way to the Lava tower because the weather was
changing. But it was only ~100m higher than the junction. Compared to the
4th, or even the 2nd day, it was flat. At least you don't need to use arms.
My guide told me to give up only when one of these symptoms persists:
headache, dizziness or diarrhea. Fortunately all I had was heartburn |
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 50 Sigh, "guide" is the one we complained most. The company and the guide are
very unprofessional to me. Seems that he knew nothing but showing the way
up...
I know who you are then, but you don't know me. I am not from bay area. :-)
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