y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 1 CANON FULL-FRAME MIRRORLESS CAMERA COMING IN 2016, EARLY PROTOTYPE EXISTING
IN CANON LABS? [CW2]
"A few weeks ago we had an interesting rumor, suggesting Canon may go
serious about their EOS M system in 2016. There was no mention of full-frame
mirrorless cameras.
I have been told (thanks) that Canon may indeed announce a full-frame
mirrorless camera in 2016. I rate the rumor CW2 since I had so many
misleading rumors about Canon’s mirrorless plans in the past. The source
insisted to say that some... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 2 Nikon D900 FX mirrorless rather than a D820/D850 may be announced in the
100th year anniversary of Nikon.
https://goo.gl/guqurA
The same NR commentor now also cited another Japanese news article (featured
comment on NR). IMHO, this other article does make a lot of sense and puts
the current quotes from Nikon into a broader context.
Nicely, the Google translation can be read as is. So without further ado,
here it is (split into pieces because of length restrictions)
Google translation:
Nikon dive... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 3 canon mirrorless with dual pixel auto-focus coming
CW3 – a 50% chance to be real, coming from a known source, or from new
source with good insight in Canon’s business
"I have been told (thank you very much) that Canon will release a mirrorless
camera that will not be another EOS M. What the source told me, is that
this will be a completely new design and concept. The source also stated
that this new mirrorless camera could be announced soon. This could happen
for CP+ in Japan next month, though ... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 4 "We weren’t told much, but we were told that Canon will “surprise a lot of
people” with one of their next mirrorless cameras. We weren’t told if it
was an APS-C or full frame mirrorless camera, but I don’t think there’s
much that would surprise people if it was a crop camera.
The same source said there has been internal talk at Canon about no longer
playing catch-up in emerging segments, this including cinema and mirrorless.
It may sound arrogant, but there’s those that feel if Canon gets fully
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 5 "We’re told once again that a full frame mirrorless camera is definitely in
the works at Canon. As we’ve also said before, the biggest challenge to
the design team is making good use of EF mount lenses. There will not be a
4th mount (EF, EF-S, EF-M) added to the Canon ILC lineup.
It’s possible we’re going to see a full frame mirrorless fixed lens camera
from Canon before we see an ILC full frame mirrorless. We were told a while
ago that such a camera was in development and apparently that is sti... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 6 "
CANON’S FULL-FRAME MIRRORLESS CAMERA WILL HAVE SAME INTERNALS AS EOS 6D
MARK II [CW3]
After yesterday’s rehash of all our EOS 6D Mark II rumors, I am glad I’ve
got a new and fresh rumor. This rumor should also redefine (=nullify) a
weird EOS 6D Mark II rumor I got some time ago.
I’ve been told (thanks) that the upcoming full-frame mirrorless camera we
are sure Canon is working on, will have the same internals (bar the mirror
box etc) as the upcoming EOS 6D Mark II. That’s to say that Canon’s f... 阅读全帖 |
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W********g
发帖数: 790 | 7 以前流传11.3佳能的mirrorless相机会露面，大家都说是谣言。
看来大家都没往EOS C 上想啊，当时都以为既然机身像1DX，多半是增加像素，搞4k摄像。从来没想过EOS C会是mirrorless......
反正现在感觉是很晕很晕......
想起来，C+的各种谣言也不是空穴来风，就是都是想歪了。
回顾一下，
最早有人得到消息，说C+会有一个减像素提高高感的FF CMOS，于是有谣言都认为C+要出6D，因为没人敢想1Ds后续机会减像素的，按常规C+一贯挤牙膏、阉割的做法，于是估计6D......
松下的老板说C+要出mirrorless相机，大家就都往革命机上想，一时间有些名人的微博都说C+要出革命机了，加上先前N+搞了一个1系革命机，大家当然想当然地认为C+ 的mirrorless相机就是革命机了，都没往EOS C这方面想......
唉，
谣言就是这么产生的。。。 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 8 Nikon niubility
Take a look at the key points of the inter-view
- The market is growing moderately, but that’s on a very small scale [in
relation] to the size of the [overall] market.
- In terms of total value and units, it is really small compared to what
DSLR is still doing.
- the whole camera market is contracting (due to high end smartphones?) and
the Mirrorless sale is not growing by the same amount.
- Nikon already have the Nikon 1 mirrorless system and doesn’t see any
reason to announce l... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 9 "While Canon themselves have confirmed an “enthusiast” mirrorless camera
will come from Canon eventually, no one is quite sure what that means.
We’re told that Canon is actively working on a full frame mirrorless camera
, but that Canon may first announce a higher end APS-C sensor EOS M camera
first. The full frame camera would retain a version of the EF-M mount we’re
told, though it would likely require its own set of lenses due to image
circle issues with the current crop of EF-M lenses.
No ti... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 10 Prosumer Level Canon Mirrorless Camera to Have 4K [CR2]
"We’re told that “at least one of the three mirrorless cameras coming in
2016 will feature 4K video recording”, though the size of the image sensor
was unknown.
We’ve heard from a few places that we’ll see a fixed lens mirroress camera
along the lines of the Leica Q and Sony RX1 R, but we don’t know what the
sensor size would be, one would hope it would be full frame. The other two
mirrorless cameras would be a new APS-C model, as well as t... 阅读全帖 |
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h********n
发帖数: 380 | 11 其实这篇文章分析得还是有道理的，但是一定要突出强调professional这个限定词，另
外，如果能够就对焦精度和DSLR的对比展开说说就更信服了。
其实FF Mirrorless的市场就是焦距200mm以下，拍拍家庭照，满足一下时代弄潮人的优
越感，由此引申的啥革了DSLR的命都是瞎扯淡。这个和10年前DSLR与film胶片之争完全
不一样，DSLR能够革film的命不仅仅是相机本身，更重要的原因是digital在后期的优
势太大了，这点很多人没有认识到，于是一个mirrorless出来就整天喊革命革命。M43
或者APSC的mirrorless和DSLR是互补关系，FF mirrorless和DSLR就像是自动档vs手动
挡，算一个evolution，到不了revolution。
话虽这么讲，A7RII还是要入的，就因为那个55mm的头，:) |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 12 "related to Sony high in mirrorless camera. According to the tipsters, Sony
is working on two high-end mirrorless camera one feature high resolution
sensors and may be called successor of ultra popular Sony A7R III orSony
A9and other camera features a low resolution sensor dedicated for
speed and accuracy, expected to be named as Sony A7III (successor or Sony
A7II).
1. The Low Resolution FF Camera with 20FPS and advance AF
The source also said that, Sony low-resolution camera can capture continu... 阅读全帖 |
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N****w
发帖数: 21578 | 13 另一个消息：
好像 EVIL 是真的，不过按 H+ 以前的惯例，可能是 Photokina 时宣布，明年再上市？
"distinct" 不知道是什么意思。。。难道 K 口能直接上？
(K4) Finally Hoya decided to make a Pentax mirrorless camera!!!
Hoya-Pentax is alive! According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya
plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other
mirrorless cameras.
Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document
were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. |
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m*t
发帖数: 2464 | 14 The two models of the Nikon mirrorless camera will be called Nikon V1 and
Nikon J1*. The mockups I posted online I believe are of the V1 model. Both
bodies will be identical, except that one will have a self timer LED on the
top right and different colors for the lens release button (one will be
black, the other will be silver). Nikon V1 will have a built-in high
resolution EVF and will come in black and white. The Nikon J1 will not have
an EVF and will come in 5 colors: red, pink, grey, white a... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******g
发帖数: 10585 | 15 1.先是黄帮主说的那个PeteFang，DPreview的成员说，Pentax哪个老总和他说近期要宣
布一款FF
2.然后日本某个杂志也收到同一个老总的消息，Pentax要发布FF，而且是Mirrorless，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。
3.再后来，Sony出来说，理光在向他们购买16M APS芯和24M的 FF芯，用于新的
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h**********a
发帖数: 306 | 16 哪来的谣言，下周发布的G1X将担当对抗Mirrorless的重任，近期佳能不会有
Mirrorless的。P&S，Super G，xxxD已经没有Mirrorless的空间了。 |
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w********r
发帖数: 290 | 17 最近经常听说，mirrorless基本可以取代传统的DSLR了，都有full frame的mirrorless啦
mirrorless比DLSR轻那么多是不是就少了个mirror啊？还缺了什么核心功能吗？
菜鸟不懂道听途说，希望各位大侠给扫一下盲啊 |
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x****y
发帖数: 1853 | 18 sounds like kodak to me.
Majority of the market is casual consumers and pro-sumers who look for easy
way to capture quality images. 5 years ago dslr is the way. Now mirrorless
can do almost the same, with a smaller package. At least I will see the aps-
c dslr genre to be replaced by mirrorless in a not too distant future. As
for full frame, yes it might last for another 10 years, before the
mirrorless
technology figures out the af tracking and lense minaturization issues.
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 19 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/big-germany-camera-sales-report
"The German Photoindustrie Verband published and incredibly detailed report
about the camera market sales in Germany. Here are some of their key
findings:
1) The graph on tops shows how the system camera market is dropping. But the
Mirrorless system cameras managed to growth(!) despite the fall of overall
sales. The DSLR market is really falling rapidly.
2) Mirrorless system camera unit sales numbers did grow with 17,4% in 2014
comp... 阅读全帖 |
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h********n
发帖数: 380 | 20 我现在在家给娃拍照用70-200VRII＋D4，楼梯走上走下的时候单手握着D4的grip很舒服
，我没法想象70-200VRII这样的镜头挂在A7上单手拎着什么感觉。原文讨论的是Pro，
你以为佳能尼康设计的时候是闭门造车不征求Pro的意见？80年代的单反五棱镜反光板
一个不少，相机有这么大吗？为什么？那个时候有70-200 F2.8这种牛变吗？
其实本来5D3，D810就不是target我们这种拍娃党的，只是时代进步了大家有钱了要装B
了，以为上了红圈头就是Pro了，其实还是照着到此一游的烂照片（包括我自己哈）。
真正differentiate尼佳和剩下的其他厂商的不是镜头，不是机身，是CPS和NPS，尼佳
要靠我们这些consumer赚钱的话早就喝西北风了。你以为board of directiro都是傻子
啊，人富士的board早在80年代就已经看到digital对他们家film business的威胁开始
布局了，FF mirrorless要真是趋势的话尼佳的board或者marketing不可能看不到，人
为什么不行动，因为他们的FF business不是针对我们这种拍娃党的... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 SmartShopper 俱乐部 】
发信人: GoRockets (火箭加油), 信区: SmartShopper
标 题: Canon EOS-M Mirrorless Digital Camera $299
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 6 19:25:34 2013, 美东)
那个镜头本身就要卖249， 当然了佳能就是镜头贵
Amazon has Canon EOS-M Mirrorless Digital Camera on sale with free shipping.
Canon EOS-M Mirrorless Digital Camera with EF-M 22mm f/2 STM Lens -
Black $299
http://userquote.com/forum/index.php?topic=1930.msg2250#msg2250 |
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发帖数: 2265 | 22 Here it is one of the most unbelievable rumors I ever read. A new source
told us that Leica is currently developing a new fullframe mirrorless system
with electronic viewfinder instead of the rangefinder system used for the
Leica M9. The new Leica cameras could use Sony sensors instead of Kodak
sensors. If the rumor turns out to be true those cameras will be certainly
expensive (there is a huge extra you have to pay for the brand). I hope Sony
will make their own fulllframe mirrorless system usi... 阅读全帖 |
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b****r
发帖数: 17995 | 23 mirrorless 我看到大家诟病最多的，一个是镜头群，一个是view finder是电子的效果
不够好
画质的话，如果是一样的sensor，不见得会更差，但是mirrorless很多都是小sensor，
就很吃亏了，加上镜头总体选择少，狗头多，就更吃亏 |
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m*****s
发帖数: 4427 | 24 mirrorless的弱点在操控, 反正c在这点上就比较弱, 还不如干脆就mirrorless |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 25 Nikon large sensor mirrorless camera is a possibility
Few other points from the interview:
4k video is coming to the Nikon DSLR lineup
"You can expect some new DX lenses in the future. We haven’t forgotten
about our DX customers"
Nikon is still "studying the demand" for a D300s replacement
Nikon is also "studying" the possibility of a D3X successor (D4s body with a
high MP sensor
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/09/23/nikon-large-sensor-mirrorless |
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J********o
发帖数: 17447 | 26 nikon holds他的观点我都可以忍, 或许人家毕竟是行家看得比我准, 但是您说这个我
他喵都要笑裂了好么
"Nikon already have the Nikon 1 mirrorless system and doesn’t see any
reason to announce large sensor based mirrorless camera." |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 27 不是说2014 announce 吗
“What we can expect (it’s not much that leaked so far):
Canon wants to go serious with mirrorless technology (Canon themselves
confirmed it in a recent interview)
The next M-system camera will sport the sensor of the EOS 70D – my take:
though one of the sources stated it will be the 7D2 sensor, I believe Canon
will go for the 70D sensor.
Hence, it will have 20MP and the game changing Dual Pixel CMOS auto-focus.
Canon is trying to miniaturise things as much as it is possible – ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******n
发帖数: 519 | 31 同时用着单反，残幅无反，好用的还是D700，2008年的产品，对焦测光照相功能甩无反
几条街，手持也称手，操控方便，就是体积大。APS-C mirrorless 体积小，按键集中
，容易误操作，呵呵，鱼和熊掌不能兼得喽。
如果要类比，我觉得 DSLR 更像烧汽油的SUV，FF mirrorless像是电车，汽油车一箱油
跑400miles，Tesla 新发布的Model 3也就是215miles，以后马路上跑的车子，烧油为
主，还是电的？我想还是谁都灭不了谁吧。
M43 |
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y*b
发帖数: 3190 | 32 Lost in the anticipation of the EOS 5D Mark IV announcement in August, is
the likelihood of new EOS M camera(s) in the fall for Photokina. We’ve been
told that there will definitely be 2 ILC EOS M cameras announced before the
end of 2016.
One of the cameras that will be announced is a follow-up to the EOS M3 which
was announced in February of 2015 and didn’t make its way to North America
until October of 2015. The new camera we’re told will be equipped with
the new sensor from the EOS 80D and wi... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 736 | 34 Adorama has Fujifilm X-A3 Mirrorless Camera with XC 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 Lens (
Silver) on sale for $289.95. Shipping is free. Thanks av-lasvegas
Includes:
Fujifilm X-A3 Mirrorless Camera
XC 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 Lens (16460757)
Li-ion Battery NP-W126S
AC Power Adapter AC-5VF
Plug Adapter
USB Cable
Shoulder Strap
Body Cap
Owner's Manual
Fujifilm 1 Year Warranty |
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M****a
发帖数: 5211 | 35 器材名称
A6000 Mirrorless camera ILCE-6000/B: $575
付款方式（需要其他付款方式请联系卖家）
paypal non-cc,
亚马逊payment non-cc
paypal cc if you cover the fee
卖家联系方式
bbs mail
器材具体描述、价格、运费：
运费卖家出
一年质保
货源 sony store （行货） |
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M****a
发帖数: 5211 | 36 器材名称
a7S Full Frame Mirrorless Camera: $2300 shipped
付款方式（需要其他付款方式请联系卖家）
paypal non-cc,
亚马逊payment non-cc
paypal cc if you cover the fee
卖家联系方式
bbs mail
器材具体描述、价格、运费：
运费卖家出
一年质保
货源 sony store （行货） |
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n**b
发帖数: 13203 | 38 Photorumors reports that the first Pentax mirrorless camera could be the “
NC-1″. We are wondering what the “N” and the “C” could stay for but
that’s all Photorumors got. If the rumors we heard the last months are
correct the NC-1 will be a camera featuring a smaller than APS-C sensor.
Let’s see if that rumor turns out to be true. We don’t have to wait much
time, the first camera should be announced soon (March?). |
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y*********e
发帖数: 7269 | 39 ft
这是Pentax十年前在PMA上面拿出来的K卡口Mirrorless概念机 |
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W********g
发帖数: 790 | 41 从1D X的机身改，mirrorless，背面的屏幕换成16：9的宽屏......
不知道到时的成品是什么怪物。 |
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h*******g
发帖数: 10585 | 42 说是最可能的是mirrorless的645D，太扯淡。。 |
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h*********u
发帖数: 10868 | 43
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。
尼玛 K5不观望了 安心等FF |
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s*****e
发帖数: 21415 | 44 pentax又出幺蛾子，老老实实搞一个全幅DSLR比啥不强
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。 |
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h*******g
发帖数: 10585 | 45 中副不图机器小，mirrorless就是减震吧
留反光室大小的空间也无所谓 |
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p****n
发帖数: 9263 | 46 其实，是P有个老总被S收买了
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。 |
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v****0
发帖数: 1887 | 47 想想 黑P的认说不定都在偷偷屯 公主头
Pentax 产能不足是现状 再怎么改嫁都没法改变
梦幻般的头还是很有潜力的
想想当初645的头，2倍3倍往上涨 还买不到
就算ff还要拖一拖 公主也是过去几年价格上升平稳的头^_^
遥想当年MS 的cashback 啊 ^_^
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。 |
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y*********e
发帖数: 7269 | 48 40MP搞Live view
这机器得要多热啊
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。 |
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T*******t
发帖数: 9274 | 49 FF mirrorless是空白
可以一搏....我个人其实不看好... |
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x****c
发帖数: 25662 | 50 醒醒
还是黑x100实际些。
，甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。 |
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