e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – "Cap"[1]
Ray Allen – "Ray Ray",[2] "Jesus Shuttlesworth"[3] (after his character
in the movie He Got Game),[3]
Rafer Alston – "Skip To My Lou"[4]
Chris Andersen – "Birdman"[5]
Greg Anderson – "Cadillac"[6][7]
Carmelo Anthony – "Melo"[8]
Nate Archibald – "Tiny"[6][9]
Gilbert Arenas – ""Agent Zero", "The Hibachi"[10][11]
Trevor Ariza – "Cobra"[12]
Paul Arizin – "Pitchin' Paul"[9]
Ron Artest – "Metta World Peace" "Ron Ron"[13]
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发帖数: 7049 | 2 篮球两个队来回打，掌球次数就差不多，所以比的必然就是效率，谁能在每次掌球中平
均得分多谁就有更高的赢率。
不幸的是体育数据界仍处在中世纪，一堆没有意义的垃圾数据的利用（如每场得分之类
）使得“刷分”现象得以生存。没办法，谁让体育界不用大量数据做科学的贝页斯估算
呢。目前看来，最靠谱的只有一个PER（player efficiency rating），虽然也是ad
hoc的垃圾数据，也有不尽人意之处，但至少是个效率数据吧。
1. 下面这页给出了NBA史上球员的生涯效率。看看一流的是谁，再看看melo在哪里。只
能说他从来就不是tops一个级别的。
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.23
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberla... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 34805 | 3 LOL，你要是用win share，2001年科比是老大就毫无疑问了。吃亏的是胖子，不是科比，你又砸了自己的脚。
Gasol之所以在win share上占便宜，是因为他不稳定，
他表现好的比赛，湖人基本必胜。输球的比赛，他经常远没有全明星的数据。
一用win share，这个就被掩盖了。内线效率高本来就是必然的。
你提到的得分和FMVP的关系，也一直是我说的，当年科比打马刺35分9板，如果是总决赛，怎么可能不拿FMVP。
我老一直强调的，是打法决定了效率值。一个球队不是每个球都能打到内线的。诸如lbj，wade的打法，决定了大个必须拉出来，这样大个的命中率低，进攻篮板少，效率不可能高。所以lbj，wade看着数据牛，其实是牺牲了内线的结果。一个球队拿不拿冠军，看的是合力。lbj不能跟胖子一类的内线合作，是很明确的。即便wade，也不能让胖子100%发挥。最后靠的是mourning来close game。
你举了一堆数据，到头来是重复了我多年的结论而已。
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发帖数: 6934 | 4 我姚生涯per力压以下选手：
20. Yao Ming 23.04
21. Jerry West* 22.90
22. Tracy McGrady^ 22.81
23. Elgin Baylor* 22.70
24. Amare Stoudemire^ 22.57
25. Moses Malone* 22.31
26. Julius Erving* 21.97
27. Dolph Schayes* 21.96
28. Pau Gasol^ 21.89
29. John Stockton* 21.83
30. Elton Brand^ 21.80
31. George Gervin* 21.74
32. Dwight Howard^ 21.69
33. Bob Lanier* 21.69
34. Clyde Lovellette* 21.67
35. Manu Ginobili^ 21.65
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发帖数: 4434 | 5 84年神迹闪现，但神居然是第三顺位pick的。第一位是大梦，虽然是很强，但整个生涯
只有神探花退役两年才有出头日。榜眼是个水货，生涯10.9-7.5-2.1。史上最彪悍大前
锋巴克利也被一个水货挤到第五顺位。另一个控卫之神John Stockton居然是16顺位
pick的，匪夷所思。
85年的状元是另外一个三大中锋Ewing，那个时代的人都偏爱中锋。诡异的是邮差Karl
Malone是13顺位pick的，这16名+13名，日后居然是历史上最著名的内外线组合，创造
出史上总得分第二名、总篮板第六名、总助攻第一名、总抢断第一名、总得分-篮板两
双次数第一名、总得分-助攻两双次数第一名的记录。能怎么评价爵士呢，天上掉馅饼？
86年的选秀最水了，第一轮pick里只有状元一人打过All Star. 两届ACC年度运动员的
榜眼Len Bias选秀完第二天就因为吸毒过量挂掉了，悲剧玩的真大。大虫罗德曼居然要
到第二轮才被pick。
87年状元是最后一个三大中锋上将先生。二哥皮蓬被3个水货挤到第五顺位。关键先生
Reggie Miller到11位。
88年太一般，没什么好谈的。
89年的状元和榜眼... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 35028 | 6
看效率大致就行了，排名不分先后，稍有偏差，但基本靠谱
1-20 超巨
20-50 巨星
50-200 球星
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.25
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.63
7. Chris Paul 25.45
8. Bob Pettit* 25.35
9. Tim Duncan 24.78
10. Neil Johnston* 24.69
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.63
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Larry Bird* 23.50
18. Kobe Br... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 16937 | 7 吼吼，不但拿冠军而且还得是FMVP，才可以不算是蹭。
不过，我还是很高兴看到手套、Mourning，跟着典韦蹭了一个戒指。
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发帖数: 8966 | 8 HOF其实有一个很重要的标准就是要对篮球运动有贡献，也就是特色。
桑普森有几个优点。
1. 跟奥拉朱旺开创了双塔战术，这个算是革命性的。
2. 全明星MVP，这个MVP可是跟Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Moses Malone，帮主那里
抢来的，基本上没别的履历这个MVP还是很count的，说明你在牛人里也能出头。
3. 伤病退役的早，要不然以他前几年在NBA的水平来看是统治级别的。
就这进HOF也是让大家很惊讶。
Hill跟Wilkins的毛病是实在太Average Joe了，同理webber，没有任何拿得出手的特色
，以后多去搞关系多做社区服务多电台主持节目吧，否则跟Hardaway，mourning之类类
似。
大卫罗宾逊这样的基本是HOF的标准样板，总冠军，MVP，得分王。低于这个水平的都要
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发帖数: 55301 | 9 启动速度快，移动速度快，往返跑速度快。
这里说的快，是至少不能拖本球队进攻防守的后腿。
大家都知道姚明尽力了，但是事实就是事实。
何况为嘛耐操性差啊，本来先天条件不足，后天想补都补不上去还弄巧成了拙。
别老和四大比，先看看Alonzo Mourning，看看鸟人，看看苦大仇深。 |
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发帖数: 4507 | 10 2000之後選秀第二順位除了KD跟Aldridge(Parker跟Oladipo還有待觀察)之外其他都是
地雷. 看起來KD應該是樂透選秀史上最偉大的第二順位球員.
2014/Jabari Parker
2013/Victor Oladipo
2012/Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
2011/Derrick Williams
2010/Evan Turner
2009/Hasheem Thabeet
2008/Michael Beasley
2007/Kevin Durant
2006/LaMarcus Aldridge
2005/Marvin Williams
2004/Emeka Okafor
2003/Darko Milicic
2002/Jay Williams
2001/Tyson Chandler
2000/Stromile Swift
1999/Steve Francis
1998/Mike Bibby
1997/Keith Van Horn
1996/Marcus Camby
1995/Antonio McDyess
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发帖数: 9546 | 11 There is a fine line between PF and C, which almost becomes invisible in the
case of Duncan.
With the presence of Shaq, Mourning, Howard, Stoudemire (also borderline PF/
C but standing tall in Nash's Suns) and Yao, it's handy to have TD as PF to
fit in All-NBA Teams, which allows two forwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team
In 2012--2013, TD has to be considered as the center in the All-NBA First
Team. But of course, there seems to be no chance for TD to be included in
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发帖数: 7166 | 13
前3都猜对了，但是，灰熊花了这么多钱还只给排了第7啊
Western Conference projections
1. Golden State Warriors
Proj. record: 67-15
Last season: 73-9
The Warriors became the first team in NBA history to finish a season with th
e league's best record and then add a former MVP still under the age of 30 i
n the next offseason. Despite the addition of Kevin Durant, our forecast pro
jects the record-breaking Warriors to come back down to earth -- slightly --
to the tune of 67 wins. The folks in Vegas have placed Golden State's ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8363 | 14
NBA自己官方的RULE CHANGE上都写明了要"open up the game". 为啥目前这些
球员动辄上篮入无人之境？一个是体毛哨，另一个就是DEFENSIVE 3-SEC
2004 rule changes: New rules were introduced to curtail hand-checking,
clarify blocking fouls and call defensive three seconds to open up
the game.
名人堂成员MOURNING甚至说乔丹放到今天可能接近场均50分。 |
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发帖数: 3290 | 15 A nice way to remember Wouter - Doing what he loved. -Johan Bruyneel
That sick feeling in my stomach won't go away. When I heard the news about Wouter, my face must have said it all because my daughter quickly asked me what was wrong. No seven year old should have to know what happened today. The innocence and carefree nature of youth are a beautiful thing.
I didn't know Wouter very well. Our interactions were based around a friendly hello in the hotel or a nod of the head. But it doesn't matter... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****8
发帖数: 1027 | 17 The open source community is mourning the sad loss of one of their own today.
Seth Vidal, just 36-years-old, was killed by a hit-and-run driver while
riding his bike in Durham, N.C., last night.
He was hit from behind at around 9 p.m. and pronounced dead upon arrival at
the hospital, reports WRAL.com.
Vidal was a well-known engineer for software company Red Hat, a company with
a meritocracy culture where engineers like Vidal hold enormous respect and
power.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.... 阅读全帖 |
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m******r
发帖数: 9604 | 19 安慰老鼠。清者自清，浊者自浊，想开点吧。 根据 The stages of mourning and
grief： Denial; Anger; Bargaining;Depression; Acceptance，你现在处于愤怒的阶
段。等到了接受阶段，可能也会拿起针筒了 |
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发帖数: 9453 | 20 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
binladen (飛龍在天 -- El Lardo) 于 (Mon May 19 02:15:23 2008) 提到:
One week anniversary of the fateful event...
Mourn...
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maxbenner (服了！) 于 (Mon May 19 02:26:55 2008) 提到:
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ostrichgege (迷人小篮子里的空心菜) 于 (Mon May 19 21:40:14 2008) 提到:
今天响应了号召，特意穿了一身黑黑的去上班。。。
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holdonpls1 (小丸子) 于 (Mon May 19 21:50:12 2008) 提到:
赞，我咋没想到呢，嗨。
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 21 我听说的是如果脚比较大，
那下身武器也就大号。
以前Barkeley/Mourning做的NIKE鞋广告，
很得意地大声报出自己的鞋号 "13!" "16!"
David Beckham刚来LA Galaxy的时候,
NIKE曾特意推出和他上场比赛时穿的一模一样的球鞋,
但是只有9码, 大家都很意外, 成为笑柄.
说起鼻子大,
我以前有个犹太人室友, 说
"知道为什么我们犹太人都长个大鼻子么?
... 因为空气不要钱啊, 赫赫!" |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 22 This was Alonzo Mourning? When was this? |
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 23 Teal 9/16-30
Mourning dove 9/1 - 10/10
Rails 9/1 - 11/9
Squirrels 9/5 - 2/27
Crow 8/15 - 3/15
这些都行啊 |
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发帖数: 4534 | 24 my personal opinion:
1). Seems .22 is well recommended for beginner, is it true? Shall I get a .
22 first and learn for shooting and get a 9mm or .45ACP later?
-I recommend 9mm/.40sw/.45ACP to begin with.
a .22 can and will help you learn the basics of firearm, but you DON'T have
to start that way. It's like preparing a DMV road test with a go-kart, which
is not the most straight forward way to learn driving.
But .22s are fun to shoot, by fun I mean you can dump 500 rounds down range
without hav... 阅读全帖 |
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r********t
发帖数: 338 | 25 象是玩真的了，搞不好AR/AK以后最多能在靶场戳纸，这事闹的。
Dear Mr. XXXX:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the recent mass shooting at Sandy Hook
Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. This senseless act of violence
has taken an unimaginable toll on the families of the victims, the Newtown
community, and the nation as a whole.
This is a time of national mourning, as well as a time for serious soul-
searching and reflection. The Newtown tragedy is just the most recent
reminder that our current laws are failing t... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****9
发帖数: 805 | 26 Thank you for contacting me regarding recent gun control proposals. I
appreciate hearing from you.
I am deeply saddened and appalled by the senseless and horrific act of
violence that occurred in Newtown, Connecticut. My thoughts and prayers
remain with the victims, their families, and the Newtown community.
As Americans continue to mourn with the people of Newtown, there are a lot
of unanswered questions. As President Obama said, "no single law or set of
laws will eliminate evil." But, we d... 阅读全帖 |
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q*a
发帖数: 2330 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
【 原文由 buptzwl 所发表 】
Boumtje Boumtje R. Portland T.B. (NBA)
Ewing Patrick Orlando M. (NBA)
Harrington Othella New York K. (NBA)
Iverson Allen Philadelphia (NBA)
Jackson Jaren Orlando M. (NBA)
Mourning Alonzo New Jersey N. (NBA)
Mutombo Dikembe New York K. (NBA)
Reid Don Detroit P. (NBA)
Sweetney Mike New York K. (NBA)
Watkins Jameel Houston R. (NBA)
White Jahidi Washington W. (NBA)
Williams Jerome Toronto R. (NBA) |
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x*****n
发帖数: 3 | 30 根据www.insidehoops.com roster 04/02/2005.
欢迎修改
排名 大学 NBA球员人数 知名球员/球队
1. Kentucky 13 Padgett Houston, Prince Detroit
2. Duke 10 Grant Hill
3. UNC 9 Vince Carter
4. Kansas 9 Paul Pierce Bos
5. Connecticut 9 Ray Allen
6. Maryland 8 S. Francis
7. Arizona 8 Bibby, Arenas
8. UCLA 7 Reggie Miller
9. Michigan 7 Juwan Howard
10. Michigan State 7 Jason Richardson golden state
11. Stanford 7 Jason Collins New Jersey
12. Georgia tech 7 Marbury
13. Georgetown 6 Allan Iverson Mourning mutombo
14. |
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a*****c
发帖数: 3525 | 31 The Bo Schembechler years at the University of Michigan
1969-89 1969: Bo Schembechler's first season as head football coach at
Michigan was highlighted by the Wolverines’ 24-12 victory over Ohio State
and Bo's mentor, Woody Hayes. Many consider this one of the greatest college
football upsets of all time. Record: 8-3 overall, 6-1 Big Ten Conference
Finish: Big Ten co-Champions Final Ranking: No. 9 AP, No. 8 UPI
1970: The Wolverines went undefeated until meeting Ohio State in November.
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发帖数: 20256 | 32 While in China, Gee spoke to the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai
and met with the university's oldest living alumnus, 111-year-old Dr. Zheng
Ji. (Dr. Zheng died July 29. The university mourns his passing.) |
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t***u
发帖数: 20182 | 33 KNOXVILLE — Some reaction from elsewhere to the " Dooley 13" play that made
for the craziest ending to a football game so far this season.
2theadvocate.com | Time Out for Oct. 3, 2010 ? Baton Rouge, LA: Golfers call
an undeserved do-over a mulligan. Maybe from now on they?ll call it a Miles
. Extreme Makeover, Tiger Stadium edition.
Out of Chaos, LSU Scores Dramatic 16-14 Victory Over Tennessee -- NCAAFB
FanHouse: But never in the history of Tiger Stadium has chaos reigned more
sublimely than it... 阅读全帖 |
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H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 34 Notre Dame silent on teen's death
Northbrook student apparently killed herself days after telling campus
police she had been sexually attacked by football player
A 19-year-old Northbrook woman died of an apparent suicide nine days after
telling University of Notre Dame police that she had been sexually attacked
by a football player in a dorm room, the Tribune has learned.
Elizabeth "Lizzy" Seeberg, a freshman at neighboring St. Mary's College who
had battled depression, apparently overdosed on p... 阅读全帖 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 35 http://www.powder.com/stories/news/breaking-two-u-s-development
BREAKING: Two U.S. Development Ski Team Members Die in Avalanche
Ronnie Berlack, 20, and Bryce Astle, 19, died in an avalanche on Monday near
U.S. Ski Team training base in Austria
The Associated Press reported this morning that two skiers on the U.S.
Development Ski Team died in avalanche on Monday while skiing in Austria.
Here’s the report from the Associated Press:
Two prospects from the U.S. Ski Team were killed in an avalanche ... 阅读全帖 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 36 刚看见：
http://shredhood.org/news/663-brian-fletcher-young-skier-who-di
The young skier who died on New Year's Eve on Mount Hood is remembered and
mourned after a terrible fluke accident
Brian Fletcher, the 37-year-old man who died in a ski accident at Mt. Hood
Skibowl on New Year’s Eve, was a lifelong skier who loved the mountains.
Fletcher started ski racing at Mount Ashland in Southern Oregon at the age
of five, raced for Ashland High School and trained at Mount Hood and
Whistler Blackcomb for s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1697 | 37 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cincinnati (eldar) 于 (Tue Oct 6 14:42:22 2009, 美东) 提到:
从Kemah Broadwalk, clearlake一直到Galveston, 是一条漫长的海道，
其中布满着美丽的珊瑚礁，各色的鱼类，和潜在的暗流。
鱼类中除了偶尔出没的可爱海豚，也不乏在阴影中的鲨鱼和鳄鱼。
在一个风和日丽的清早，邻居的爷爷奶奶拉我 -青年劳力加临时船长
-把船从Clearlake开到Galveston Bay。
面对这样的艰巨使命，报酬只是一个汉堡;
幸好我荷包里是半个月前刚刚拿到的驾驶证书。
所以无愧地接下使命。
Clearlake不愧是一个party town，经常有金发棕发红发黑发的帅哥美女向我抛来莫名
其妙的媚眼。
当天好像还有一个船只展览，人山人海中我只有靠无敌的残爬勉强找到车位。
船展上，各色奇形怪状的船只一一展现他们个性的身姿 -
当然，我荷包里的零用钱只够我买一只最小号的kayak :)
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发帖数: 2328 | 38 Trouble he will find you no matter where you go, oh oh
No matter if you're fast, no matter if you're slow, oh oh
The eye of the storm or the cry in the mourn, oh oh
You're fine for a while but you start to lose control
He's there in the dark, he's there in my heart
He waits in the wings, he's gotta play a part
Trouble is a friend, yeah trouble is a friend of mine, oh oh!
Trouble is a friend but trouble is a foe, oh oh
And no matter what I feed him he always seems to grow, oh oh
He sees what I se... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 39 September
Language: German (Deutsch)
Der Garten trauert,
kühl sinkt in die Blumen der Regen.
Der Sommer schauert
still seinem Ende entgegen.
Golden tropft Blatt um Blatt
nieder vom hohen Akazienbaum.
Sommer lächelt erstaunt und matt
in den sterbenden Gartentraum.
Lange noch bei den Rosen
bleibt er stehen, sehnt sich nach Ruh.
Langsam tut er die großen
müdgewordnen Augen zu.
September
Language: English after the German (Deutsch)
The garden is mourning,
the rain sinks coolly into the flo... 阅读全帖 |
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r*x
发帖数: 1055 | 41 Feb 3, 2010 07:44 PM ET by Natalie Abrams 12 Comments
Buzz up!
Lost
Poor Juliet (Elizabeth Mitchell). As if falling into the Swan hatch and
exploding the bomb wasn't enough of a sendoff at the close of Lost's Season
5, she died in the final season opener in Sawyer's arms — after a final
kiss and a mysterious message. While fans are still mourning the loss of Dr.
Burke, TVGuide.com jumped on the phone with Mitchell, who's shooting ABC's
alien-invasion drama V in Vancouver. The 39-year-old actre |
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h******o
发帖数: 253 | 42 4/21/2010 is national mourning day.
后天继续
just a thought |
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s****e
发帖数: 293 | 43 I approve this message,大家参照执行
4/21/2010 is national mourning day.
后天继续
just a thought |
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P**a
发帖数: 1267 | 44 有围墙，是木头的，经常见到松鼠在上面跳来跳去，可是他们一般都是直奔bird
feeder去的。。。如果说松鼠和老鼠是一家，也有可能是他们偷吃的。
我还见过一只 Opossum, 不过是去年的事了，抖抖索索的在栅栏上爬，当时以为他/她
是过路的，不是长住的。
还有Jay,brown bird,mourning dove,thrasher，house wren,等等各种大小鸟类常来吃
bird feeder或者找蚯蚓，会不会是他们吃的呢？
我们小区里有兔子，不过兔子不会翻墙吧。。。思索中~~~ |
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发帖数: 14217 | 45 昨天发现一只mourning dove在院墙上安了窝,有树枝遮蔽,可能一时还不会被邻居的狗
发现.院墙下种了南瓜,昨天本打算在院墙上架网子,为减少对鸟骚扰,临时改成简易的杆
子,小心翼翼的,不过还是惊动了一次.今天早上浇前院的花,又惊动了鸟.领导和孩子都
期盼着小鸟出生(窝里有一个蛋,鸟离开时看到的).怎样才能让鸟熟悉人在旁边活动,不
再害怕? 在附近地上放些食物和水行不行? 查到这种鸟习性是在地上吃草籽,也吃碎玉
米. |
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发帖数: 14217 | 46 小区兔子不少，但被chicken net拦住进不来院子。偶尔在小区能看到松鼠，因为坚果类树木不多，松鼠没泛滥。后院外的鸟倒是不少，会飞到草地上吃虫子，可是从来没祸害过我种的番茄、蓝莓、豌豆。上周发现对面邻居家的一只大白猫经常来我家后院的院墙上巡视，估计是它保护着菜地。几个月前在院墙上灌木掩盖下的mourning pigeon的鸟蛋被弄碎了，想来也是这只猫干的。 |
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发帖数: 6275 | 47 哈哈哈哈， 后天，我的宝贝黑胖猫女儿就要回家了，买了房子以后，黑妞还没来住过
呢，到时候什么兔子松鼠全部给我消失。
果类树木不多，松鼠没泛滥。后院外的鸟倒是不少，会飞到草地上吃虫子，可是从来没
祸害过我种的番茄、蓝莓、豌豆。上周发现对面邻居家的一只大白猫经常来我家后院的
院墙上巡视，估计是它保护着菜地。几个月前在院墙上灌木掩盖下的mourning pigeon
的鸟蛋被弄碎了，想来也是这只猫干的。 |
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发帖数: 127 | 48 This is mourning dove, I like this bird. |
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GIANTPANDA (GiantPanda) 于 (Mon Aug 8 18:16:38 2011, 美东) 提到:
在俺们的花盆里.这是今年的第二波了
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liozodell (山水白鹤) 于 (Mon Aug 8 18:17:25 2011, 美东) 提到:
喔唷，好可爱哩
关心第一拨lz怎么。。。呢？:-)
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GIANTPANDA (GiantPanda) 于 (Mon Aug 8 18:32:32 2011, 美东) 提到:
可不是可爱么,它们就在俺们的PATIO下BBQ炉上方不远出,前两天BBQ把妈妈给熏的就看
见烟雾里矗立着一个伟大的身影,最后实在过意不去了,将烧烤炉挪了几尺.
前一波长大了飞了,不过还在后院,可以听到他们在飞.现在将地儿腾出来,两天后就来了
这波
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