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j*******7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Jesus vs the Horus Mythology
Is Jesus Simply a Retelling of the Horus Mythology?
What if I told you there was once an ancient religion whose God was
conceived by a virgin named Meri and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)?
What if I told you this God was born in a cave and his birth was announced
by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds? He attended a
special rite of passage at the age of twelve (although the ancient texts
describing this God are silent about His life from the age of 12 to 30). At
30 years ... 阅读全帖
j*******7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - What Cause Mythologies to Resemble Jesus
The Reasonable Expectations That Cause Mythologies to Resemble Jesus
While the similarities between Jesus and the “divine” mythological
characters that preceded him are grossly overstated, we ought to expect some
parallels between Jesus and the imaginative creations of those who lived
prior to Christ’s appearance on earth. As ancient people began to consider
the possibility of God’s existence, a series of reasonable inferences
certainly must have guided the fabrication of their mythological deit... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Is There a Burning Hell? ZT
The concept of a burning Hell where people are tortured eternally, is often
thought of as a Bible teaching. It isn't. Rather, the whole concept of a Hel
l as people see it today, where the bad are sent to an underground world tha
t is ruled by an evil God, comes from a misunderstanding of the pagan Greek
Mythology of Hades, the River Styx, and the God Pluto. For if you read Greek
mythology, you'll see that Hades was never a place of torture, but simply t
he place where the dead go to be judged. ... 阅读全帖
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 请推荐3岁娃看得英文书
也说说早期教育(四)《好书共享篇》
很高兴和大家交流育儿经验,也谢谢斑竹鼓励。上一贴叫《识字篇》,网址在这儿:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Parenting/31278411_4.html
Caveat : 本人无心无意无能培养“天才”,但有心有意有本事教育子女。
自打扁豆认字,我们就开始给他买书。先是一般的 Board Books,属于增长词汇量的那
种。买的第一套丛书是 Disney's Wonderful World of Reading,包括 The Lion King
, Mulan, Pocahontas, 等等。正好家里有 Disney 的录像带,就一起看了。
另一套书是 I Can Read It All by Myself Beginner Books by Dr. Seuss,其中著名
的有One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish, Are You My Mother?, The Cat in the
Hat Comes Back, Arthurs's Reading Race 等等。读起来琅琅上口,... 阅读全帖
l**a
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Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty (born November 20, 1940) is an American Indologist
whose professional career has spanned five decades. A scholar of Sanskrit
and Indian textual traditions, her major works include, Asceticism and
Eroticism in the Mythology of Siva (1973), Hindu Myths: A Sourcebook (
translated from Sanskrit, 1975), The Origins of Evil in Hindu Mythology (
1976); Women, Androgynes, and Other Mythical Beasts (1980), The Rig Veda: An
Anthology, 108 Hymns Translated from the Sanskrit (1981),... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: History版 - Cleopatra
In my original posting, (1) mentioned coins bearing Cleopatra likeness.
Michiko Kakutani, The Woman Who Had the World in Thrall. New York Times, Nov
. 2, 2010 (title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/books/02book.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=michiko%20cleopatra&st=cse
Note:
(1) Michiko KAKUTANI 角谷 美智子; 1955- ; 日系アメリカ人二世 American born.
(2) The print edition but not online version has a photo of a contemporary
coin, with caption: "[photo credit:] From Cleopatra: A Book. By Stacy Schiff
. A 80... 阅读全帖
c***r
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来自主题: History版 - 古希腊文明到底有多少水分?
再发个瓶子吧。这个瓶子被称作The Mykonos Vase。
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/1919.jpg
瓶子颈部的细节。
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/1920.jpg
据说是一个人在自家院子里打井的时候挖出来的,是目前已知的最早的关于特洛伊木马
的记录。制作瓶子的时间大约是公元前670年。
更多信息参见
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/twar2.htm
打井和挖坑是一回事么?
https的图居然出不来……有兴趣的自己拷贝link吧。
上个wikipedia的图。

煌。
c***r
发帖数: 4631
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来自主题: History版 - 古希腊文明到底有多少水分?
再发个瓶子吧。这个瓶子被称作The Mykonos Vase。
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/1919.jpg
瓶子颈部的细节。
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/1920.jpg
据说是一个人在自家院子里打井的时候挖出来的,是目前已知的最早的关于特洛伊木马
的记录。制作瓶子的时间大约是公元前670年。
更多信息参见
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/mythology/1200/twar2.htm
打井和挖坑是一回事么?
https的图居然出不来……有兴趣的自己拷贝link吧。
上个wikipedia的图。

煌。
C*****H
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dumbCoder (HumbleCoder) 于 (Tue Jan 15 13:53:47 2013, 美东) 提到:
经常看到有怀疑古希腊文明有水分的帖子
http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-no01-458848-1.shtml
我是菜鸟,请版上高人指点。
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yenite (燕岭悲歌) 于 (Tue Jan 15 16:11:29 2013, 美东) 提到:
呵呵,要怀疑先看看原著吧,否则会闹些特洛伊不是希腊的笑话。。。
btw,为啥国内突然兴起了一股质疑希腊罗马的风气,而且还是一帮对希腊罗马没啥了
解的人?

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maywind (五月风) 于 (Tue Jan 15 16:31:59 2013, 美东) 提到:
这叫两手都要硬
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D******e
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I am just messing with you.
The killer whale is actually a dolphin. :-)
Atlas is an immortal and you could call him a God. But God in Greek
mythology has narrower meanings. Only Zeus and his buddies are Gods. A
titan is a God elderly, the parent generation of Gods. In another word,
Atlas is not a God in greek mythology. It is kinda funny that Atlas is the
son of a Titan. Somehow, he is not a God but Zeus is a God. In our time, we
call all deities Gods.
More fun to figure out mythology
c**i
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来自主题: Literature版 - Cleopatra
In my original posting, (1) mentioned coins bearing Cleopatra likeness.
Michiko Kakutani, The Woman Who Had the World in Thrall. New York Times, Nov
. 2, 2010 (title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/books/02book.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=michiko%20cleopatra&st=cse
Note:
(1) Michiko KAKUTANI 角谷 美智子; 1955- ; 日系アメリカ人二世 American born.
(2) The print edition but not online version has a photo of a contemporary
coin, with caption: "[photo credit:] From Cleopatra: A Book. By Stacy Schiff
. A 80... 阅读全帖
p**********r
发帖数: 3581
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶稣?荷鲁斯?巧合?抄袭?
老毛病又犯了? 抄袭不写出处!
Aren’t there some striking parallels between the Jesus and Horus stories?
Hardly. For those unfamiliar with the Horus story, Horus is a character in
Egyptian mythology, the son of the gods Isis and Osiris. There actually
appear to be multiple deities named 'Horus', but the one who is the son of
Isis and Osiris is the one the critics claim influenced the Jesus story.
For a quick and unbiased debunking of this story, go to any search engine
and find a site on Egyptian mythology an... 阅读全帖
y****e
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针对星巴克的美人鱼很大的一个争论是就这一形象究竟是Sirens,还是Mermaid展开的~
我参考的一篇重要文章How the Starbucks Siren Became Less Naughty 中也说到关于
Sirens的解释。他在文中提及:
Basically, from what I gathered from different sources, including that book,
there is a lot of confusion between the different mythological half-women.
Typically they are called Sirens - both the half-bird/half-woman and the hal
f-fish/half-woman varieties. The fish type are usually called Mermaids. Both
types according to the ancient Greeks were in the business of seducin... 阅读全帖
d*****g
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Aliens of Ancient China
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread459147/pg1
Was the first Chinese Emperor an Extraterrestrial?
Huang-Di (2697-2598 B.C.) or “The Yellow Emperor” is considered to be the
first emperor of China and the ancestor of all Chinese.
Chinese scholars have always argued whether Huang-Di was “real” or “
mythical”. Depending on the source you can either read that he was a god-
king, a mythical-king, a real king, a god-like-king, a “son of the heavens
” or a half-god. I would... 阅读全帖
w****j
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来自主题: History版 - 从城邦到帝国 - 7
在Etruscan扩张的时候,拉丁人的地盘主要在意大利中部的西海岸Tiber河下游左岸
(Tiber河基本上是从北向南流,快到入海口的时候转向西南方向)
的Latium(拉丁姆)地区,大致对应现在意大利的Lazio地区。大致的范围如下:西北
起始于Tiber河(台伯河)下游;东南达到Liri River(利里河)下游流域的东南边缘
;东北到Apennine 山脉;西南靠Tyrrhenian Sea。不管是希腊人还是Etruscan起初都
承认拉丁人对这块地盘的所有权。他们这一时期(800BC~500BC)最大最危险的敌人是
Volcsi(沃尔西)族人。Volcsi的语言是Volcsian,和Umbrian和Oscan(翁布理人和奧
斯坎人)的关系比较近,当然,和Latins的血缘关系也就是稍远一点点而已。
Volcsians是生活在Apennine 山脉中将Latium和Campania分开的一条支脉里的山民。
他们常常和Aequi(埃奎)部落联合起来攻击罗马人。对于拉丁人来说,他们日后得以
发展的至关重要一个条件是他们能够一直拥有Tiber河口这个出海口,从而和海洋的联
系一直没有断... 阅读全帖
G**8
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阴阳论可以勉强算一种形而上学(metaphysics)吧,不过更多算神秘论(mythology)。
Dialectics of Nature是一种Metaphysics:不讲道理、只讲逻辑--你必须首先承认一
切事物由所谓内因外因决定,然后才能分析。阴阳论有点类似于Dialectics,不过阴阳
论不是很讲逻辑(metaphysics的根本),所以我说它更类似于mythology。
类似的理论从古到今,以不同的面目,各个文明都有。是人类的一种本能。例如古埃及
人认为事物分两类:能解释的一类,由数学和逻辑解释;不能解释的一类(magic)由四
大元素决定--Heka、Rw、Pekhret、Seshaw。其中Heka来自太阳,是个很牛的概念,类
似于原始的“能量”理念,据说后世触发Thales的元素论,再后来的atomism、
thermodynamics等等全部由此发展而来。Rw来自于狮子。Pekhret来自于植物。Seshaw
来自于人类自身。最早的相关考古实物有多早?4800年之前!
说阴阳论是中华文明的一个伟大发明,是可以的。汉字也是中华文明的一个伟大发明。
但是最好不要跟西方比,... 阅读全帖
h*****9
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Is the Big-Bang a Religious Hoax?
Huascar Terra do Valle
Science is the opposite of religion. Right? No! Wrong! Religion is always
trying to infiltrate into religion. Sometimes it succeeds. For instance, in
the Big Bang theory.
Today it is almost unanimous among the orthodox astronomers and astrophysics
that the world was created some 12 billions ago from a magnificent
explosion of a primodial atom. In a few seconds, as the theory goes, all the
universe was created from this primordial explosion... 阅读全帖
y***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 西方伪造“拜占庭”始末
The Reason and the Whole Story of the Fictitious Name “Byzantium”
by Western Historiography
【How did the fictitious Byzantium come into existence?】
In 1557, about one hundred years after the Constantinople-based Roman Empire
completely perished (1453), the German historian Hieronymus Wolf faked a
name “Imperium Byzantium” for the Constantinople Roman Empire—the
historical Eastern Roman Empire, during his sorting out and compiling
historical data about the Eastern Roman Empire.
Byzantium, referri... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 为啥登月计划叫阿波罗?
[99] APOLLO. In July 1960 NASA was preparing to implement its long-range
plan beyond Project Mercury and to introduce a manned circumlunar mission
project-then unnamed-at the NASA/Industry Program Plans Conference in
Washington. Abe Silverstein, Director of Space Flight Development, proposed
the name "Apollo" because it was the name of a god in ancient Greek
mythology with attractive connotations and the precedent for naming manned
spaceflight projects for mythological gods and heroes had been s... 阅读全帖
L********r
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 娃的FRONTING压力
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology
mythology感觉就是一堆myth编个合集,对否?基于这个理解,对方小孩问得也很自然
么。
求详解。
l*****9
发帖数: 9501
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Jeremy Lin: Even Kobe bows to his star power
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
NEW YORK – Somehow, the most improbable story in NBA history found
himself
in the most improbable place on Friday night: The ball in his hands,
Madison
Square Garden on its feet, and the fourth quarter genius of Los Angeles
Lakers star Kobe Bryant determined to obliterate this burgeoning
mythology.
Out of Bryant, had come a barrage: twisted, contorted fades, a self-pass
off
the backboard, the A-list arsenal out of ... 阅读全帖
O*****d
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来自主题: TVGame版 - 文明5要上E3了
will try rise of nations, also there is a game called "age of mythology",
guess it's a greek mythology version of aoe
l**a
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 唐太宗三拒“桃花”(ZT)

Have you read golden bough?
It says clearly the king's morality and behavior will influence his
people.
It is in ancient mythology, mythology is not religion, but they are related.
g****d
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"In the mythology of ancient Greece, Athene, the Goddess of Wisdom, was so
impressed by the great eyes and solemn appearance of the Owl that, having
banished the mischievous crow, she honoured the night bird by making him her
favourite among feathered creatures. Athene's bird was a Little Owl, (
Athene noctua). This Owl was protected and inhabited the Acropolis in great
numbers. It was believed that a magical "inner light" gave Owls night vision
. As the symbol of Athene, the Owl was a protecto... 阅读全帖
a**********r
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很久没看过那种让人一出影院就迫不及待冲到电脑前码字的片儿了。今天忙里偷闲,终
于看完了《潘的迷宫》。果然不负好评,是这些年来难得一见的好片。(以下争取在最
大音量抒情之下不spoil情节,~~好困难呀*_*)
对西班牙电影的印象,好像就停留在几年前阿尔莫多瓦大叔那五颜六色的水彩众生相那
里了。再加上trailer里对这个片子的介绍比较偏魔幻一些,直到开演前都一直都很轻
松(另外,今天进影院有点晚,所以是从黑色背景加1944白色字幕那里看起的,看过的
人会明白什么意思。),英文片名还总让人想到peter pan。其实这里的Pan,是Roman
Mythology里的Faun,Pan是Greek Mythology里的译名。(Pan是田野之神,一般都以人
身羊腿的形象出现,好像还顺便管管收获呀庆祝什么的。)
时间,1944年,地点,西班牙,处于佛朗哥(Franco)的白色统治下的。女孩名字叫奥菲
莉亚(Ofelia)(hmm,难道是哈姆雷特老婆名字的西语版?),爸爸是个裁缝,在战
争中死去,估计是当了法西斯的炮灰了,妈妈为了养活全家,嫁给了一个小有权势的法
西斯军官(Vidal)并怀上了他
l****z
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The Terminator Genisys Movie Review for Geeks… Arnie Is Back, Unfortunately
Written by Andre Infante July 3, 2015
All the while I was watching Terminator Genisys, the same phrase kept coming
back to me… “We have to go back in time and kill the screenwriter.”
Terminator Genisys is the latest edition of the Terminator series, a
property rivaled only by the Alien series for turning two great films into
an awful franchise. The last two entries, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
and Terminator Salva... 阅读全帖
S**U
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来自主题: Belief版 - Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth
PBS six part documentary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth
版上有人看过吗?
The discussion considers the role of myth and ritual in contemporary society
. Contemporary rituals are carried out to mark special events in private
lives, such as an individual's marriage or enlistment in a branch of the
armed forces and, on public occasions such as the inauguration of civil and
national leaders. In the Introduction to the book, Moyers recalls Campbell's
description of the solemn state funeral aft... 阅读全帖
x*****u
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来自主题: ChineseClassics版 - 凤凰涅磐究竟是哪国的典故?
哪个学校啊?
金山之美国传统辞典:
phoenix also phenix
n.
Mythology
【神话】
A bird in Egyptian mythology that lived in the desert for 500 years and then
consumed itself by fire, later to rise renewed from its ashes.
不死鸟,长生鸟埃及神话中的一种鸟,相传这种鸟在沙漠中生活五百年后身焚,然后又
从其焚灰中再生

e***e
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来自主题: Translation版 - Neutral Tones [Thomas Hardy, 1867]
Cultural aspects
In Norse mythology, the World Tree Yggdrasil is commonly held to be an ash
tree, and the first man, Ask, was formed from an ash tree (the first woman
was made from elm). Elsewhere in Europe, snakes were said to be repelled
by ash leaves or a circle drawn by an ash branch. Irish folklore claims
that shadows from an ash tree damage crops. In Cheshire, it is said that
ash could be used to cure warts or rickets. See also the letter ash.
In Greek mythology, the Meliai were nymphs of
l*****y
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism
People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism,
Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful
and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred
Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda,
Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .
Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that
preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their
Christian audiences, but one only
w*********r
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An article about religion. kind of old but fun to read.
Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2008/oct/30/atheism-religion
A slow but certain demise
All the signs are there: religion will die. I'm just sorry I won't be around
to see it
* Terry Sanderson
* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 30 October 2008 09.30 GMT
* Article history
There are signs that in the western world (including the US) religion is,
indeed, beginning a long, slow – although accelerating – decline. All th... 阅读全帖
c****n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - God应该翻译成“槁德”
呵呵,用在基督教的时候可以翻译为上帝
但是God这个词本来就不是基督教专用啊,各国各种宗教都有自己的神,神话故事里面
也有神
比如Norse Mythology,Egyptian Mythology里面都有很多Gods和Goddesses,呵呵 :)
J*****3
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 跟老七分享我在信仰经历
我那天看的一个纪录片,不过拍得很一般,The God Who Wasn't There,主持采访的就
是个前基督徒,他从小在教会学校读书受洗。
Jesus myth hypothesis
Most of the film is a presentation of the argument for the Jesus myth
hypothesis. Flemming and those he interviews in the film make these claims:
The history of Christianity, especially the doctrine of the earliest
Christians, is consistent with Jesus having been a mythical character, with
historical details only added on later.
The Epistles of Paul, which were written before the Gospels, show n... 阅读全帖
f*********i
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The more "Christian" a place is, the greater the social ills and crime of
the area. That's the primary conclusion of an exhaustive scientific study
done by Gregory S. Paul and published in the scholarly onling journal,
Journal of Religion and Science of the Creighton university of Omaha,
Nebraska, a Jesuit school.
The study showed that the most "Christian' parts of the United States, the
South and Midwest, have the highest rates of social ills and crime including
murder, sexually transmitted dis... 阅读全帖
f*********i
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怎么找,我不会耶
不过,我找到了以下数据,监狱里犯人的religion统计
Religion's Effects On Crime Rates
By: Edgar Saint George
Editor-in-Chief
The more "Christian" a place is, the greater the social ills and crime of
the area. That's the primary conclusion of an exhaustive scientific study
done by Gregory S. Paul and published in the scholarly onling journal,
Journal of Religion and Science of the Creighton university of Omaha,
Nebraska, a Jesuit school.
The study showed that the most "Christian' parts of the United States, th... 阅读全帖
l*******h
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SHOULD A NEW TESTAMENT BELIEVER OBSERVE EASTER OR PASSOVER?
By Jerry Healan
The preponderance of those who embrace the New Testament Scriptures and the
Messiah of that New Testament and observe Easter during March or April of
each year. A minority of believers, however, observe the Passover and Days
of Unleavened Bread. Which is right? Which is truly according to Scripture?
During the Easter observance, the Scriptural account of the resurrection of
YAHUSHUA is the supreme focus. However, why is ... 阅读全帖
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Bible?
It's so funny you called bible "a carefully and faithfully preserved book".
Have you seen the original bible manuscript?
Why do you think Jewish mythology is more real than Greek/Roman mythology?
l*****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 嘉言慧语论圣经
Thomas Jefferson, (1743-1826) 3rd American president, author, scientist,
architect, educator, and diplomat. Deist, avid separationist.
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of
Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have
not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of
coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites.
" [Notes on Virginia]
"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one re... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - God Is the Only Way to God
Jesus Is the Only Way to Heaven Because God Is the Only Way to God
This Easter I had a wonderful experience at New Life Church near Toronto,
Ontario. Pastor Elio and Micki Marrocco allowed me to teach their Good
Friday and Easter services (in addition to training sessions with their core
leaders). I tried to encourage the members of New Life and help them grow
in their confidence related to the controversially exclusive, central claim
of Christianity: Jesus alone is God. While there may be other... 阅读全帖
o***s
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82岁的民谣歌手莱纳德·科恩去世
据国外媒体报道,加拿大民谣音乐唱作人、诗人莱纳德·科恩(Leonard Cohen)已经去世,享年82岁。科恩浪漫的歌词和深沉的演唱方式影响了他之后的一大批音乐人,包括《Suzanne》,《Bird On a Wire》和《Hallelujah》等多首作品都是文艺青年心中的圣歌。科恩作品所属的索尼公司在社交媒体上确认了他去世的消息。
“怀着巨大的悲痛,我们宣布,传奇诗人、创作人和艺术家已经去世,”声明中说,“我们永远失去了这位音乐圈中最受人尊敬的、最多产的前辈,他的纪念仪式稍后会在美国洛杉矶举行。在这个困难的时刻,希望大家能够尊重他家人的隐私。”至于科恩具体的死因,这份声明并没有说明。
消息一出,网友纷纷发文悼念。著名歌手郑智化刚刚开通微博就发文悼念,称莱纳德·科恩是他最喜欢的“诗人歌手”、“全世界英文歌词写得最好的男人”。歌手李健也发博悼念:“我相信,科恩先生的人生远比他的歌曲所呈现的更为丰富,我也相信,对于他的离世,他自己的悲伤是众多因此悲伤的人当中最少的一个,在今后的岁月里,他的歌声在世界的各个角落连绵不绝,而对于他的怀念终将是断断续续,可这有什... 阅读全帖
b****e
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来自主题: History版 - 我的在线历史文献库
在线历史文献
2002-11-12
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~baojie/history/histbook.htm
世界历史 | 国别史 | 世界史专题 | 中国通史 | 中国断代史 | 中国史专题 | 二十六史
| 历史典籍 | 百科全书与工具书 | 共运资料 | 中国当代史料 | 其他
世界历史
简明世界通史(上) (下)
世界史·古代史(上卷) (下卷) 世界史·近代史(上卷) (下卷) 世界史·现代史(上卷)
(下卷)
世界通史·当代卷 古代卷 中世纪卷 近代卷(上) 近代卷(下) 现代卷
世界上古史
世界中古史
世界近代史
世界近代史2
世界当代史
新编世界当代史
国别史
荷马史诗
罗马史纲要
阿拉伯通史(上册) (下册)
澳洲史
德国史纲
法国通史简编
非洲通史古代卷 近代卷 现代卷
加拿大通史简编
近代英国史
日本近代史
苏联史纲CCCP(1953—1964)
世界史专题
佛教史
中国通史
白寿彝中国通史(01) (02) (03) (04) (05) (06) (08) (09) (10) (13) (14) (17)
(18)
中国通史... 阅读全帖
K****n
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我其实就是在wiki出the Nine Worthies的时候发现这么讲说不通的。
“The Nine Worthies (les neuf preux) are nine historical, scriptural,
mythological or semi-legendary figures who, in the Middle Ages, were
believed to personify the ideals of chivalry.
he Nine Worthies were:
Pagan:
Hector
Alexander the Great
Julius Caesar
Jewish:
Joshua
David
Judas Maccabeus
Christian:
King Arthur
Charlemagne
Godfrey of Bouillon“
其中pagan的凯撒和亚历山大都好说,但是Hector应该是特洛伊王子,荷马史诗是不是
真事很难
说,如果真信荷马,那是不是也信Hector是Dardanus的后代,Achilles是Thetis的儿子
之类
的,这不变
S*******C
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KeeVan (Kevin) 于 (Thu Apr 1 20:26:18 2010, 美东) 提到:
我较这有几个事儿逻辑上不太通。
Christian应该是搞掉Paganism上位的,罗马皇帝后来不仅皈依基督,还禁止Pagan。基
督教应该是
一神教,而且排斥其它信仰。那么希腊,马其顿,罗马时期传说的英雄人物和神仙在中
世纪是怎么解释
的,好像欧洲还能把他们整合起来。比如伊利亚特里Hector是骑士精神的典范,但是
Trojan难道不是
啥Pagan大神的后代么,那个年代的英雄,包括罗马皇帝,都应该是Pagan诸神的后代吧
?那基督教庭
咋把这事儿说圆了呢?
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fead (fead) 于 (Thu Apr 1 20:32:02 2010, 美东) 提到:
什么是paganism?
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KeeVan (Kevin) 于 (T... 阅读全帖
R*****d
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来自主题: History版 - 舜象传说的演变新探
舜象传说的演变新探
张雪
http://d.wanfangdata.com.cn/Periodical_guizjyxyxb200701011.aspx
中图分类号:I 042
文献标识码:A
文章编号:1002-6983(2007)01-0040-04
A New Study on the Development of Legends about Shun and 象
Zhang Xue
(Guizhou Education Institute, Guiyang, Guizhou, 550003)
Abstract:
In the handing down of the legend about Shun and 象,it underwent three evolvements. In the beginning, it evolved gradually from a political legend to a moral and ethical one. In the earliest myth, the original story was about hunting... 阅读全帖
h*i
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I guess the story probably goes like this: the mountainous areas of
Southwest Asia were the place where Chinese people were isolated genetically from its parent group (很难穿越 is precisely the reason of the genetic split) around 10000 years ago.
Part of the proto-Chinese still remain in the original area and become 独龙族, etc. But another part of them followed the edge of Tibetan plateau to continue north (this explains the prominence of Kunlun mountain in Chinese mythology), entering Qiang people's ... 阅读全帖
w****j
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来自主题: History版 - 从城邦到帝国 - 2
上次我们提出来罗马何以在希腊文明圈里脱颖而出的问题。这个问题不止是一个历史问
题,也是一个政治学问题,决定希腊和罗马文明的崛起和衰落这些历史事件背后的规律
以及在制度上的成败得失,是近代西方政治哲学所非常关注的问题之一。Machiavelli
的最重要的著作(不是最著名的著作,但我个人认为是他份量 最重– 不管是按重量计
算还是按重要性和深度计算 - 的一部著作)Discourses on Livy(《论李维》这部书在
国内已经有译本了,豆瓣上查到一个版本由上海人民出版社出版,不知翻译质量如何)
针对Livy罗马史的前十卷,对罗马早期历史进行了研究,并提出了共和制度的核心机制
:遏制与平衡(check and balance)。也就是今天我们常常挂在嘴边的制衡。
我们同时也分析了罗马早期历史的史料来源,指出了古典罗马历史学家在这方面的可信
度。这样讲,也就意味着我在这个系列读书笔记里将努力(其实也是Rostovtzeff在写
罗马这本书的时候所坚持的理念)把传说(mythology)从历史叙述中尽量剔除。于是
,Aeneas是怎样从特洛伊战争中逃出来,Romulus和Remus是如何建... 阅读全帖
w****j
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来自主题: History版 - 从城邦到帝国 - 12
对于罗马来说,前7世纪以前把准字去掉差不多吧。早期大家都这样啊。不过到了城市
的形成,尤其是Latins和Sabines融合形成罗马的基本盘的时候,就超越部落的阶段了
。Etruscan到前6世纪显然不止是部落级别的,至少有12个比较大的城市,即所谓的
Dodecapoli。Etruria已经超越部落或是部落联盟的水平,大概对应现在像是邦联的架
势。国家和国家(或是城邦)的交往已经有一定之规,可以称为外交了。而且外交上有
一定约束力的习俗也可以认为是国际法的雏形。Etruria的规模和文明发展的水平是有
大量考古发掘支持的。夏朝的考古发现,现在还没到那个程度呢。Livy对于前四世纪以
前的叙述,可以看作是半历史半mythology。细节上不可信是对的,大致形势发展并不
全是臆想,和考古发现对照还是有一定意义的。完全的虚无自然是不可取。我觉得夏朝
也未必就是虚无,还是看考古发现吧。

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来自主题: History版 - The liberty bell:::
The Liberty Bell
Liberty Bell
Tradition tells of a chime that changed the world on July 8, 1776, with the
Liberty Bell ringing out from the tower of Independence Hall summoning the
citizens of Philadelphia to hear the first public reading of the Declaration
of Independence by Colonel John Nixon.
The Pennsylvania Assembly ordered the Bell in 1751 to commemorate the 50-
year anniversary of William Penn's 1701 Charter of Privileges, Pennsylvania'
s original Constitution. It speaks of the rights and... 阅读全帖
l*w
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纽约时报的报道算不算啊。
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/world/europe/25marx.html
Marx's House Is the Mecca of the Chinese Tourist Class
TRIER, Germany, April 21 — Karl Marx's birthplace is a stately three-story
house that has been a fixture of this ancient town on the Mosel River since
it was built in 1727. What is changing are the large groups that visit almos
t every day from China, one of the few countries in the world still under th
e control of something calling itself a Communist Party.
Chinese tou... 阅读全帖
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