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发帖数: 38600 | 1 Transcript: Donald Trump on NATO, Turkey’s Coup Attempt and the World
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/donald-trump-foreign-policy-interview.html
SANGER: That’s true, but we are treaty-obligated under NATO, forget the
bills part.
TRUMP: You can’t forget the bills. They have an obligation to make payments
. Many NATO nations are not making payments, are not making what they’re
supposed to make. That’s a big thing. You can’t say forget that. |
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t*******y
发帖数: 374 | 2 希望总统特朗普与总统竞选人川普有所不同。作为一个独立左派，发现他的外交政策倒
是与我一贯的想法几乎全面吻合。
1，对俄和缓。俄罗斯是唯一的世界大国可以与美国
互相毁灭，中国到现在为止连苏联1960年代的军力都达不到，特朗普应当很清楚这点。
俄罗斯当前只是努力保持它自己的范围。
2，降低以致取消NATO。 NATO本来是针对苏联的华约。当时苏联解体时，西方承诺NATO
不会扩张，事实完全相反。
3，在中东采取平衡政策，停止为以色列去搞乱中东，这对美国及中东都有巨大好处。
4，有可能重开911 调查，这对以色列可能是致命的，所以这点也许做不到。美国国会
已经大部分被犹太复国主义的代理人收买，更像以色列国会而不是美国国会。 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: USANews
标 题: 新总统，新世界
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 21 00:36:00 2017, 美东)
http://buchanan.org/blog/new-president-new-world-126437
New President, New World
By Patrick J. Buchanan
“Don’t Make Any Sudden Moves” is the advice offered to the new president
by Richard Haass of the Council on Foreign Relations, which has not
traditionally been known as a beer hall of populist beliefs.
Haass meant the president should bring his National S... 阅读全帖 |
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l***o
发帖数: 7937 | 4 European Union nations
Belgium: A Foreign Ministry spokesman told CNN the country will expel one
diplomat to show solidarity with the UK.
Croatia: Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovic said Croatia will expel one
diplomat.
Czech Republic: The Czech Republic will expel three diplomats, Prime
Minister Andrej Babis and Foreign Minister Martin Stropnicky announced at a
press conference. The Czech Foreign Ministry tweeted that it declared the
diplomats "personae non gratae."
Denmark: The Foreign Ministry a... 阅读全帖 |
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 5 Appearing at the joint news conference with Putin after the talks in the
Finnish capital ended, Trump said he and Putin discussed their disagreements
“at length.” He added: “Our relationship has never been worse than it is
now. However, that changed, as of about four hours ago.”
The summit began hours after Trump blamed his own country, rather than
Russia, for the hostilities between their two nations.
Speaking first at the news conference, Putin said the talks took place “in
a frank and busines... 阅读全帖 |
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 6 By Dana Milbank
July 16 at 7:19 PM
My fellow Americans, we are a deeply stupid nation.
I know this must be the case because President Trump has repeatedly informed
us that we are a “stupid country” — he offered this opinion on at least
nine occasions since he launched his campaign for the presidency — and he
should know. As he reminded us after his NATO meeting last week, he is a “
very stable genius.”
It is furthermore the president’s highly intelligent opinion we have been
led by “stupid peopl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 11948 | 7 Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;
(ii) any alien who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent
resident;
(iii) any alien who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or
lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful
permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;
(iv) any alien who is the sibling of a U.S.... 阅读全帖 |
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V*U
发帖数: 2226 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: VEU (我的马甲), 信区: Military
标 题: How MI6 was fooled by Taleban impostor
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 26 18:49:14 2010, 美东)
http://freedomsyndicate.com/fair0000/times0048.html
Times Online
How MI6 was fooled by Taleban impostor
MI6 became convinced it had achieved an 'historic breakthrough' in forging
contacts between the Taleban and the Afghan Government
Tom Coghlan , Michael Evans and Daniel Lloyd
British Intelligence has suffered its most embarrassing setback since Ira... 阅读全帖 |
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B*D
发帖数: 5016 | 9 这个是大特务设想的5-7年后的情况
俄国人需要进行"几周到数月“长度的动员去获得入侵FRG的攻势作业.俄国人在1956年入
侵Hungary,1968年入侵Czechoslovakia,1979年入侵Afghanistan和1980年入侵Poland的
行动前进行持续数周的动员.一般认为,如果假设NATO在俄国动员7天之内因为俄国的欺敌
作业没有侦测到俄国的动员,俄国将在14天的动员中获得对NATO最大的兵力优势.NATO在
一个月的动员时间内可以基本接近俄国的兵力.如果动员长达2-3个月,兵力的对比由俄国
的预备队和双方的工业能力的发挥决定.
关于你的启动条件B:我不知道在这样的情况下,台湾和美国可以获得多长时间的预警.原
因是我不知道他们侦测和识别中国欺敌作业的能力,我也不知道中国,台湾和美国的决策
层和执行层有多少漏洞.
关于你的1-4个判断.1:取决于启动条件B给予台湾和美国的预警时间.2-4:你需要等到PL
A已经以12hr为间隔向台湾运送足够多波次的登陆部队.台湾强化单兵ATM,长程MLRS和武
装直升机是为了平衡2.同时你希望确保B-1B和B-2没有以JDAMs攻击滩头和... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 13081 | 10 第四。
在整个乌克兰危机中， Nato 始终保持着黑海的存在， 以及对这个地区的持续
surveillance。
同时， 这些军舰，要遵守 黑海的一个协议： “Montreux Convention” , a US-
authorized treaty from 1936, which bars outside countries from keeping
warships in the Black Sea for more than 21 days.
USS Donald Cook 这次在 Black Sea 的任务， 只不过是这些NATO军舰之中的一个部分
而已
4/11 - 4/24
完全没有所谓的， 被照射后， 匆匆从黑海逃走。
这种propaganda, 语气思维， 就是共产党一贯的作风， 毛子继承下来了。
http://rt.com/news/163484-nato-black-sea-eavesdropping/ |
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J*V
发帖数: 3150 | 11 Chairman Of Joint Chiefs: US Ready For “Military Response” In Ukraine
http://www.infowars.com/chairman-of-joint-chiefs-us-ready-for-m
With diplomacy having failed miserably to resolve the Russian annexation of
Crimea, and soon East Ukraine (and with John Kerry in charge of it, was
there ever any doubt), the US is moving to the heavy artillery. First,
moments ago, the US DOE announced in a shocking announcement that it would
proceed with the first draw down and sale of crude from the US strategic... 阅读全帖 |
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 12 Chairman Of Joint Chiefs: US Ready For “Military Response” In Ukraine
http://www.infowars.com/chairman-of-joint-chiefs-us-ready-for-m
With diplomacy having failed miserably to resolve the Russian annexation of
Crimea, and soon East Ukraine (and with John Kerry in charge of it, was
there ever any doubt), the US is moving to the heavy artillery. First,
moments ago, the US DOE announced in a shocking announcement that it would
proceed with the first draw down and sale of crude from the US strategic... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 13 http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/04/qaddafi_letters_about_as_c
4/6/11 at 5:25 PM
Qaddafi Endorses Obama’s Reelection Campaign
For whatever reason, Muammar Qaddafi has decided, in a letter to President
Obama, to just ask if America and NATO would maybe stop bombing Libya,
please? Though Qaddafi obviously doesn't approve of the military campaign
against him, he still has plenty of nice things to say to Obama, including:
Despite all this you will always remain our son whatever happened... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 14 Turkey Shoots Down Russian Plane——Theater of Circular Absurdity; Two
Seconds; New Cold War
by Mike Mish Shedlock • November 24, 2015
Theater of Absurd
The tangled web of friend-foe relationships in the Mideast has reached a new
high point of circular absurdity.
The US and Turkey are fighting ISIS (allegedly), as is Russia and Iran.
Turkey just shot down a Russian plane on the Syrian-Turkey border.
Turkey freely buys oil from ISIS which gives ISIS the money needed buy
weapons... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6571 | 15 1. 美国和前苏联在伊拉克、阿富汗等国打仗留下的：
Old military campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan and other troubled Middle
Eastern countries have come back to haunt the U.S., Russia and Europe as the
ordnance left behind has fallen into the hands of a powerful enemy: The
terrorist group known as Islamic State.
All types of military vehicles – from Soviet-era tanks and modern U.S.
Humvees to Black Hawk helicopters, AK-47s and fighter jets – have been
identified as being captured by the jihadist group ISIS in their campaign... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 老大要收保护费，小弟都尿了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 21 13:29:00 2016, 美东)
Transcript: Donald Trump on NATO, Turkey’s Coup Attempt and the World
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/donald-trump-foreign-policy-interview.html
SANGER: That’s true, but we are treaty-obligated under NATO, forget the
bills part.
TRUMP: You can’t forget the bills. They have an obligation to make payments
. Many NATO nations are not maki... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 17 1. 他敬仰普京对恐怖主义毫不手软的倾力打击，他遗憾奥巴马希拉里不肯打击恐怖主
义不肯保护本国人民。
反问：为什么希拉里奥巴马滋养这些恐怖势力？
2. 他没有在俄国的商业投资，要看他在哪里有商业投资也不需要看税表。
反问：为什么希拉里要删除数万份邮件，要拒绝用政府提供的邮件服务以及办公室里政
府提供的电脑，事发后又砸烂所有用于通信的手持工具。她为什么不想公布那些删除的
邮件让大家明白她受贿卖国于恐怖主义组织及国家？
3. 他为黑客所揭露的真相而喝彩，他不知道是来自何方的黑客也不知道黑客黑了哪些
组织。
反问：希拉里怎么知道黑客是俄罗斯的，怎么知道黑客没有攻击RNC？希拉里对黑客所
揭露的真相有什么想解释的？
4. 那得问Ivanka和邓文迪。
反问：奥巴马为什么要用化名跟希拉里用希拉里的私人邮服交流？
5. 他从未要解散NATO，他要大家一起Pay fair share反恐。
反问：希拉里的语文是谁教的，为什么不管人家说什么都能听不懂。希拉里认为现在的
NATO效率高吗？办事得力吗？欧洲稳定和平吗？不需要改革吗？喔，对了，班加西大使
被袭是，NATO帮忙了吗？ |
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f******s
发帖数: 983 | 18 发信人: grit1 (grit), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 明天辩论TRUMP在这方面将会被剧烈攻击
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 26 10:13:02 2016, 美东)
1. 他敬仰普京对恐怖主义毫不手软的倾力打击，他遗憾奥巴马希拉里不肯打击恐怖主
义不肯保护本国人民。
反问：为什么希拉里奥巴马滋养这些恐怖势力？
2. 他没有在俄国的商业投资，要看他在哪里有商业投资也不需要看税表。
反问：为什么希拉里要删除数万份邮件，要拒绝用政府提供的邮件服务以及办公室里政
府提供的电脑，事发后又砸烂所有用于通信的手持工具。她为什么不想公布那些删除的
邮件让大家明白她受贿卖国于恐怖主义组织及国家？
3. 他为黑客所揭露的真相而喝彩，他不知道是来自何方的黑客也不知道黑客黑了哪些
组织。
反问：希拉里怎么知道黑客是俄罗斯的，怎么知道黑客没有攻击RNC？希拉里对黑客所
揭露的真相有什么想解释的？
4. 那得问Ivanka和邓文迪。
反问：奥巴马为什么要用化名跟希拉里用希拉里的私人邮服交流？
5. 他从未要解散NATO，他要大家一起Pay fair share反恐... 阅读全帖 |
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s*k
发帖数: 507 | 20 昨天居然没有贴全。再次声明 纯转贴
十一，以色列
之前提到利用以色列肢解NATO，这里就具体展开一下。
内塔尼亚胡这么狠的狠人（侦查部队服役过5年，哥哥是战争中牺牲的英雄，真正的狠
角色），过去几年连续被伊朗核协议以及联合国制裁打脸，估计肺都快气炸了吧。有兴
趣的可以去看看他的联大发言，沉默一分钟，加上死亡凝视，最好再配上Simon and
Garfunkel 的名曲“The sound of silence”（沉默之声），那画面简直不
能更美。
内塔尼亚胡设计台词：“要不是打不过你，我早就跟你翻脸了。” Obama
冷漠脸。
好了现在Trump上台了，内塔尼亚胡估计也该动手了。
可笑巴勒斯坦那边，法塔赫和哈马斯还在窝里斗，终止了今年底的地方选举，请问你知
道死字怎么写吗？
Trump不一定有多喜欢内塔尼亚胡，但是他的NATO布局需要以色列这个棋子。因为亲以
色列是共和党内的政治正确，Mitch McConnell是挺以色列的扛把子。因此Trump可以把
它无限拔高，直到把Mitch McConnell噎死。以彼之道，还施彼身。
一旦以色... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 21 China and Russia are now functioning as a block. China is in the economic
driver’s seat. What does the US have to offer countries in Asia? The US is
a declining economic power, saddled with a sclerotic infrastructure and
manufacturing base, increasing unemployment and sky rocketing deficits.
Since the end of WWII, US taxpayers have spent $ trillions on wars. The US/
NATO war theater currently extends from the Levant to Caspian Basin, Persian
Gulf, China Sea, Indian Ocean, Horn of Africa, the Mag... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********I
发帖数: 10729 | 22 附上英文：
https://justpaste.it/12goy
This is the full transcript of Donald Trump’s interview with Michael Gove
and Kai Diekmann, former chief editor of the German newspaper Bild.
Mr President-elect, your grandfather is from Germany, your mother is from
Scotland. As you know, Michael is Scottish, I am German. How will you manage
relations with our countries?
Trump: Well, it’s similar. We have great love for both countries. These are
great countries, great places. It’s very interesting how the UK brok... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 23 http://buchanan.org/blog/new-president-new-world-126437
New President, New World
By Patrick J. Buchanan
“Don’t Make Any Sudden Moves” is the advice offered to the new president
by Richard Haass of the Council on Foreign Relations, which has not
traditionally been known as a beer hall of populist beliefs.
Haass meant the president should bring his National Security Council
together to anticipate the consequences before tearing up the Iran nuclear
deal, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem or shoo... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 24 The German government is denying reports that President Trump gave
Chancellor Angela Merkel a bill for money owed to NATO.
“Reports that President Trump had presented the federal chancellor with a
kind of bill with a concrete billion sum are not true,” said spokesman
Steffen Seibert, as reported by Politico Europe.
Seibart’s comment comes after the Times of London reported on Sunday that
Trump gave Merkel a bill for NATO defenses during her trip to Washington, D.
C., earlier this month. The news... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******d
发帖数: 12895 | 25 【 以下文字转载自 USChineseRight 俱乐部 】
发信人: thinkhard (think hard), 信区: USChineseRight
标 题: 【MAGA】床铺兑现的竞选承诺清单
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 8 19:14:22 2017, 美东)
转自reddit
This is a running list of the promises President Trump made on the campaign
trail, and has kept in his 73 days in office, 1/41 of his presidency. Barely
any of them have been reported on because of this bullshit Russia
conspiracy theory that is swallowing the MSM. He has literally "Done more in
73 days than Obama did in 8 years." This is no... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 26 你信不信只要美国反对,黑山就不能加入北约。美国就是NATO，离开美国NATO is
nothing。 按照NATO的protocol 美国总统就是应该这样前排正中间，一点眼力劲都没
有，难道不知道前排正中间是给美国专门预定的位置？ |
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e**r
发帖数: 1144 | 27 911都过去10多年了拉登还算个毛的精神领袖...
最多一个过气网红
: 川粉不懂的是本来911没有nato啥事情，
: 结果nato给911站台， 宣战，
: obama处理得很好， 杀了本拉登， 直接恭恭敬敬扔海里， 然后宣布参加的海豹
突击队
: 飞机失事全部翘辫子。 竟然就这么把精神领袖弄死了还没有带来报复。
: 然后再搞乱欧洲， 搞死欧元。
: 美国来不是那么容易。 然后极端分子就要搞英国这条最大的美国走狗了。
: nato带给欧洲的不是安全，而是恐怖主义。还有川粉说欧洲占美国多大便宜，
川粉很
: 无耻。
: 看看到底是谁保护谁？！
: Collective defence means that an attack against one Ally is
considered
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发帖数: 1 | 28 没有统一语言。
欧盟说穿了就是靠NATO支撑，而NATO就是美国主导，而美国就是讲英语的国家。没有美
国就没有欧盟。
NATO的工作语言就是英语。
穆斯林进美国必须将英语，穆斯林进欧盟可以讲几十种语言。
欧洲大一统必须使用英语，现在欧洲大陆排斥英语，那么英国人不得不退出欧洲，光荣
孤立。 |
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t******r
发帖数: 8600 | 29 是的，就是斗争。但是，为什么斗为什么争？
远的不说，看看nato成立前欧洲100年的历史，就是血腥的相互屠杀的历史。nato成立
后，这种屠杀基本为零。你觉得nato没有作用吗？
思考问题不要选择性或跳跃性的短路。只知其一，不知其二就是谬误。 |
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i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 30 说 NATO 也没啥问题。欧洲各国自己的军队在NATO面前和玩具一样，就像一个大汉拿个
棍子在房间里站着，一群小孩再调皮也打不起来。
：你这段话 指欧盟 更 合理，说 NATO 根本作用是这个 有点 over stretch ！
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h***e
发帖数: 2823 | 31 老九这个好，点个赞。
: 说 NATO 也没啥问题。欧洲各国自己的军队在NATO面前和玩具一样，就像一个大
汉拿个
: 棍子在房间里站着，一群小孩再调皮也打不起来。
: ：你这段话 指欧盟 更 合理，说 NATO 根本作用是这个 有点 over stretch ！
: ：
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发帖数: 2136 | 32 NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT: F-35 STEALTH FIGHTER SPY COVER-UP
November 2, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff ·
“WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
“Another spy disaster like Pollard, shoved under the rug too long due to
pressure from the powerful Israeli lobby.”
On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5
terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give
the United States and her a... 阅读全帖 |
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u****n
发帖数: 7521 | 33 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: ubcumn (ubcumn), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 现在看来, 美国在阿富汗是输定了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 5 11:56:45 2011, 美东)
作者搏客的英文原文
http://www.juancole.com/2010/12/top-ten-myths-about-afghanistan
Top Ten Myths about Afghanistan, 2010
Posted on 12/27/2010 by Juan
10. “There has been significant progress in tamping down the insurgency in
Afghanistan.”
* Fact: A recent National Intelligence Estimate by 16 intelligence
agencies found no progress. It warned that large swathes of the c... 阅读全帖 |
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O******e
发帖数: 734 | 34 Only A-1, A-2, and G-1 through G-4 visas (and
NATO-1 through NATO-6 visas, but Chinese
citizens rarely hold NATO visas) can be renewed
without leaving the U.S., i.e., diplomatic and
government official visas. |
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c*****u
发帖数: 867 | 35 我刚刚看到我写的一篇survey（就是我在本版问了好几次的那篇）被欧洲某国军队研究
院引用。我查了一下，Wikipedia中把这个研究院和该国国防部并列于军队的
organization条目下，看来是国企无疑了。研究院网页上写他们是这个国家关于国防事
务的chief adviser to the Ministry of Defense。
我的survey被他们的一个report引用。他们的这个report里面有project编号，而且大
量引用我在survey中总结的内容，更是直接把我的好几张图原封粘贴（都加了引用了，
不是抄袭）。
我在survey中归纳了一类方法，这些方法是很多人各自提出的，他们有共同点，于是我
把它们归纳为一类方法。那个军队研究院的report中说他们prefer使用我总结出的这类
方法，直至北约提出新的标准为止。
请问这个算是亮点引用吗？
如果算亮点，那么我的担心是万一我使用了这个亮点：
1、毕竟是survey，已经被我反复写道多封推荐信里面了。
survey不是我自己提出的proposal，我似乎无法证明original contribution。
请问我该如... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h
发帖数: 7021 | 36 转自reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_tired_of_
liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/
This is a running list of the promises President Trump made on the campaign
trail, and has kept in his 73 days in office, 1/41 of his presidency. Barely
any of them have been reported on because of this bullshit Russia
conspiracy theory that is swallowing the MSM. He has literally "Done more in
73 days than Obama did in 8 years." This is not only a running list of
promises he has kep... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h
发帖数: 7021 | 37 Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_
tired_of_liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/
This is a running list of the promises President Trump made on the campaign
trail, and has kept in his 73 days in office, 1/41 of his presidency. Barely
any of them have been reported on because of this bullshit Russia
conspiracy theory that is swallowing the MSM. He has literally "Done more in
73 days than Obama did in 8 years." This is not only a running list of
promises he has kept ... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h
发帖数: 7021 | 38 转自reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_tired_of_
liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/
This is a running list of the promises President Trump made on the campaign
trail, and has kept in his 73 days in office, 1/41 of his presidency. Barely
any of them have been reported on because of this bullshit Russia
conspiracy theory that is swallowing the MSM. He has literally "Done more in
73 days than Obama did in 8 years." This is not only a running list of
promises he has kep... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******h
发帖数: 7021 | 39 Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_
tired_of_liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/
This is a running list of the promises President Trump made on the campaign
trail, and has kept in his 73 days in office, 1/41 of his presidency. Barely
any of them have been reported on because of this bullshit Russia
conspiracy theory that is swallowing the MSM. He has literally "Done more in
73 days than Obama did in 8 years." This is not only a running list of
promises he has kept ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*V
发帖数: 3528 | 40 这个也贴过来吧.
7/21 DC军区活动的不完全统计
平均单程驾驶时间约两个半小时, 全程训练时间约5个小时.
全天中小阵雨不断, 影响了预先安排的飞碟场射击.
除因各种原因提前退出或未能到场的以外, 参加训练的二十多人, 包括女兵两人.
计划使用枪支近四十种, 实际可能略有差异, 大致列表如下:
装备名称 类型 口径
SP 2022 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
HK P30L 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 21 半自动手枪 .45 Auto
Glock 23 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
SW BG 380 半自动手枪 .380 Auto
Ruger Mark III 半自动手枪 .22 LR
M&P PRO 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 19 半自动手枪 9mm
S&W5906 半自动手枪 9mm
CZ 40B 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
Sig P357 半自动手枪 9mm
Glock 19 半自动手枪... 阅读全帖 |
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A*V
发帖数: 3528 | 41 这个也贴过来吧.
7/21 DC军区活动的不完全统计
平均单程驾驶时间约两个半小时, 全程训练时间约5个小时.
全天中小阵雨不断, 影响了预先安排的飞碟场射击.
除因各种原因提前退出或未能到场的以外, 参加训练的二十多人, 包括女兵两人.
计划使用枪支近四十种, 实际可能略有差异, 大致列表如下:
装备名称 类型 口径
SP 2022 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
HK P30L 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 21 半自动手枪 .45 Auto
Glock 23 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
SW BG 380 半自动手枪 .380 Auto
Ruger Mark III 半自动手枪 .22 LR
M&P PRO 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 19 半自动手枪 9mm
S&W5906 半自动手枪 9mm
CZ 40B 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
Sig P357 半自动手枪 9mm
Glock 19 半自动手枪... 阅读全帖 |
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 42 US Sanctioned Chinese Company Wins Turkey Missile Defense Contract
9/27/2013 7:08 AM ET
NATO ally Turkey has selected a U.S. sanctioned Chinese company to build its
first long-range air defence and anti-missile system, Turkish media
reported.
The China Precision Machinery Export-Import Corp (CPMIEC) won the $4 billion
contract beating off competitions from U.S. company Raytheon-Lockheed
Martin, Russia's Rosoboronexport and Italian-French consortium Eurosam.
Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*****i
发帖数: 465 | 43 1.XCR: XCR今天打到600发wolf“高寿”了，另外也打了些NATO,具体数量不记得了。自
100发后，目前还木有擦过枪，看起来还挺干净，不打算擦。目前优缺点总结如下：
先说优点：
- 还木有卡过。听说有很多优化设计，也有很多问题，但没有卡过是事实。继续向着
1000发前进。
- Ergo真是没得说，拆枪太方便老！！！
- 省心。。。目前自从100发后还木有加过任何润滑，打开后发现bolt group上还有残
油，继续向1000发前进。这个在直吹的AR上差别挺大的，我记得我的Sig DI AR15 每
200-300发打开后，bolt真的很干了，估计不加油也可以打，但自己的家伙还是爱惜点。
- 比较稀少，靶场没几个认识，很多人问。。。
缺点：
- 精度真的很一般。大概3-4MOA吧，比一般的AK好一点点，比DI的AR肯定不如。
- 打NATO的时候，如果不调小气阀，扳机打手指，不是太痛但不舒服了。Wolf
underpower到没啥问题。
- 重。。。目前空弹夹8.5lb,除了铁瞄没有任何optics。在考虑去flute barrel了，应
该可以搞到8lb.
- 有很多all... 阅读全帖 |
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A*V
发帖数: 3528 | 44 大家都写的很生动, 俺就给几个数字吧:
平均单程驾驶时间约两个半小时, 全程训练时间约5个小时.
全天中小阵雨不断, 影响了预先安排的飞碟场射击.
在确认所有报名人员里, 只有两人临时推出(其中一人请同伴代为请假).
参加训练的约23人, 包括女兵两人.
计划使用枪支近四十种, 实际可能略有差异, 大致列表如下:
装备名称 类型 口径
SP 2022 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
HK P30L 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 21 半自动手枪 .45 Auto
Glock 23 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
SW BG 380 半自动手枪 .380 Auto
Ruger Mark III 半自动手枪 .22 LR
M&P PRO 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 19 半自动手枪 9mm
S&W5906 半自动手枪 9mm
CZ 40B 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
Sig P357 半自动手枪 9mm
Glock 19 ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*V
发帖数: 3528 | 45 这个也贴过来吧.
7/21 DC军区活动的不完全统计
平均单程驾驶时间约两个半小时, 全程训练时间约5个小时.
全天中小阵雨不断, 影响了预先安排的飞碟场射击.
除因各种原因提前退出或未能到场的以外, 参加训练的二十多人, 包括女兵两人.
计划使用枪支近四十种, 实际可能略有差异, 大致列表如下:
装备名称 类型 口径
SP 2022 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
HK P30L 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 21 半自动手枪 .45 Auto
Glock 23 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
SW BG 380 半自动手枪 .380 Auto
Ruger Mark III 半自动手枪 .22 LR
M&P PRO 半自动手枪 9mm Luger
Glock 19 半自动手枪 9mm
S&W5906 半自动手枪 9mm
CZ 40B 半自动手枪 .40 S&W
Sig P357 半自动手枪 9mm
Glock 19 半自动手枪... 阅读全帖 |
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m******9
发帖数: 403 | 46 借宝地问一下，308和7.62x51 NATO，除了底火硬度和释放的膛压不同以外，还有没有
什么本质上的区别？最近在网上搜索了一下，得知308属于7.62x51 的民用版弹药，不
是所有的308枪都可以换用7.62x51 NATO，但反过来发射NATO的枪却可以兼容308。有这
一说么？ |
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 47
跟 .223 vs 5.45x45 nato相反，.308win 压力比 7.62 nato高。
所以.308的枪可以用nato子弹，反之不好。
尺寸specs稍有区别但实际用没问题。 |
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c****x
发帖数: 1270 | 48 The HK USP is probably the most thoroughly tested pistol ever produced. The
testing process of the USP, already extreme in exceeding strict NATO AC-225
Military Specification Standards, in many ways mirrors the regimen the HK
SOCOM pistol was subjected to .
The barrel of the USP is cold-hammer forged from high-grade chromium steel,
the same type of steel used in cannon barrels. During testing, a bullet was
deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into
the obstructing... 阅读全帖 |
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s******9
发帖数: 1451 | 49 供应量上来了，价格有的降下来了。各个口径都很充足，除了22还是没有。恐慌时高价
没人买的火鸡国弹药ZQI,有的在甩卖。看到7.62x51 FMJ NATO Spec 铜壳，一盒才9.99
。我二话没说全包了。另外有很充足的9mm FMJ 123Grain NATO Spec 铜壳，也才12.97
。相当于9mm +p 的 NATO Spec。果断又买了四盒。以上这两种北约弹药，非军剩，恐
慌前最便宜也不过是（或者高于）目前这个价格。
很久没买弹药了，前两年光是打和卖。又该开始充实军火库存了。正如恐慌刚开始不久
时我的预测，当大多数人都屯的差不多，抢的差不多，而生产和进口的规模升上去来不
及收缩的时候，弹药价格在甩卖时甚至会有回落到恐慌前的时候。
可以慢慢看着,年底前购物季应该会有更多deal。 |
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c******o
发帖数: 1184 | 50 Will China stay on course?
By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Events in the Middle East and North Africa are of historic importance, but
the even bigger, long-term story is the rise of China. What path will it
choose at home and abroad in the years ahead?
For decades there has been debate at the highest levels of the Chinese
government about how much to modernize politically to ensure growth and
stave off revolution.
It’s notoriously difficult to analyze the inner workings off the Chinese
Communist Party. ... 阅读全帖 |
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