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W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Back to the states after probably the best vacation I ever had :)
More info about the ski resort:
1. Niseko has three areas, Hirafu, Village, and Annupuri, ranging from
largest to smallest. The total skiable areas combined are about the size of
Northstar, so not that big. Elevation is not that high, about 1300m or 5000
feet. The slope uses the European system of green, red, and black. You can
cross the ski areas at the top of the mountain, or take shuttles.
2. The most unique characterics is Nis... 阅读全帖
W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
The weather god finally blesses Niseko with non-stop snowing for the last
two days. The mountain is getting into decent shapes, though the upper
mountain is still closed. Had a blast today under heavy and a bit wet snow.
Skiing in Niseko is a treat! Lift is built right outside the hotel, a 10
yard walk from ski check. Many lifts in Hirafu have wind shield that
automatically rolls down and up as skiers get on and off lifts. Mountain
cafes have noodle soups that actually taste like noodle soups, a... 阅读全帖
W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Niseko Video
Looks like Niseko has more snow than Snowbird (just joking:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS-TngWSZUI
s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Good for you! Japan has a very bad start this season. Why go there while
you have much better ski resorts in the States? I've skied at Hakuba Happo One (
ranked as the #1 in that country from their skiing magazine) but found
nothing specicial. Onsen, food, and sightseeing are the major reasons for me
and my friend to spend big money to ski there. Everything else sucks. It'
s not comparable to any medium size resort in the States. But since we are
their big fan, especially onsen and food, ... 阅读全帖
k*****r
发帖数: 1435
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比你晚去,不过现在去北海道的国人应该很多吧,实在不济niseko也有很多澳大利亚人
,至少讲的是英语
T*********e
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 北海道滑雪历险记
【 以下文字转载自 Ski 讨论区 】
发信人: sturgeon (sturgeon), 信区: Ski
标 题: 北海道滑雪历险记
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 30 23:36:39 2007)
首先警告大家在日本要做良民,一根绳子拦着的地方看起来再温柔也不要去,因为可能
有温柔一刀。 事情是这样的。
俺们在北海道niseko滑雪。北海道的雪又厚又松软,滑起来很舒服。上面贴的是雪场地
图,图中间有4条沟。第一天俺们滑进了左边第一条沟,是有绳子栏者的,但很多人进去
。开始是一片白桦林,下一段短的陡坡进入很窄的山谷,感觉象half pipe.
第二天俺们进了最右边的山谷,也是钻了绳子,不同的是没有其他人。俺们在fresh
powder上滑机会难得,一路畅通无阻,直到悬崖边。只看到LD从两块石头中间滑下去的
痕迹,见不到人了。俺知道自己没本事滑下去,想着蹭过这段下面就 好了。这时听到
LD在下面喊别下来太危险了,有凸出去的岩石俺看不见下面。再听LD喊就是回去找人8
,下面是近百米的悬崖不可能滑下去,凸出来的石头下面是冰墙,挡 着他也爬不上去
了。俺当时只滑下去了一点
s******n
发帖数: 518
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来自主题: Ski版 - 北海道滑雪历险记
首先警告大家在日本要做良民,一根绳子拦着的地方看起来再温柔也不要去,因为可能
有温柔一刀。 事情是这样的。
俺们在北海道niseko滑雪。北海道的雪又厚又松软,滑起来很舒服。上面贴的是雪场地
图,图中间有4条沟。第一天俺们滑进了左边第一条沟,是有绳子栏者的,但很多人进去
。开始是一片白桦林,下一段短的陡坡进入很窄的山谷,感觉象half pipe.
第二天俺们进了最右边的山谷,也是钻了绳子,不同的是没有其他人。俺们在fresh
powder上滑机会难得,一路畅通无阻,直到悬崖边。只看到LD从两块石头中间滑下去的
痕迹,见不到人了。俺知道自己没本事滑下去,想着蹭过这段下面就 好了。这时听到
LD在下面喊别下来太危险了,有凸出去的岩石俺看不见下面。再听LD喊就是回去找人8
,下面是近百米的悬崖不可能滑下去,凸出来的石头下面是冰墙,挡 着他也爬不上去
了。俺当时只滑下去了一点,站在支出去的树杆上身体基本背靠雪墙。于是摘下滑雪板
,准备往上爬。柔软温厚的白雪实在同危险 联系不起来,至于下面覆盖的是悬崖是峭
壁反正看不到,直到往上爬时脚下的白雪纷纷无声坠落才开始疑惑是不是有些不对?意
识到ski
s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
I 99% agree with you. Japanese is probably one of the most honest, polite,
hardworking, clean, effecient, ... etc. (you name it) people in the world.
I've travel to that country twice (one for ski trip and one for business
trip), and each time I got very good impression about that nation. Of
course, before I travel there, I have long been a big fan of them.
One thing that I don't like and cannot tolerate is about their smoking
everywhere - same as people in china.

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O****e
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Nice write-up of your experience. Thanks for sharing.

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O****e
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
I agree with you on polite, hardworking and clean. But not sure about honest
and efficient.

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s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Oh yes. You will know that if you travel to that country. Japanese and
Germany are maybe two of the most honest people in the world. In their
culture, a promise is a promise. You will never need to worry about that
stuff might be missing in your hotel room while are you away. I also want
to add one thing ... most Japanese may be *the least selfish* and the most
willing to help people (even strangers) in the world. Because of their
unselfish culture, their work or business are much more eff... 阅读全帖
O****e
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Don't want to deny your experience as a tourist. But, when you make such a
claim as the most, you have to take into account of not just tourist
experience.
Efficiency: Have you ever worked in Japan? I have a close friend who has
worked in Japan for many years. According to his experience, Japanese work
long hours but with low efficiency because most of the time they are tired
and have trouble focusing.
Honesty: Didn't they lie right into your face many times during WWII? What
are they teaching a... 阅读全帖
s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
To answer your questions:
1. No, I never worked there. From what I observed during my visit to one of
their largest cooperations, I did see that they work VERY long hours (12
hours a day I would say). The reason that I think that they are efficiency
is not about the personal working productivity. It's about the effiicency
of a company's productivity. If they are given a goal, they can get the job
done by due date with high quality products.
2. Sorry that I don't want to get into this politic... 阅读全帖
s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
About #2 (honesty), as I said that I didn't want to get into this political
and religious debate. My experience was just based on my observation from a
tourist point of view. I believe that the majority of Japanese are more
honest than people from other countries.
M***a
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
赞。楼主是在日本吗?
W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
No. Just a trip to Hokkaido. We live in California
M***a
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Wow. It's close. I am in SoCal.
良い新年! 今年ニセコ町に行くつもりです..
W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Yes. It is compared to Hokkaido :) Hope to ski together some day.
s****y
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
这个信息不错, 多谢。

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W*****5
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
China's growing sway felt in north Japan ski town
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Chinas-growing-sway-felt-in-apf-1
M***a
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来自主题: Ski版 - Merry Christmas from Niseko
Sounds like late 80's Japan.

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W*****5
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Twice. Kirkwood one day, niseko 3 days. Hope to use my heavenly pass
sometime this month :)
s*******r
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来自主题: Ski版 - Ski in Japan
If you are in Tokyo area, then ski Hakuba One.
If you are in Hokkaido, ski Niseko, Rusutsu, and Furano.
j****7
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来自主题: Ski版 - Ski in Japan
"The main difference between these areas and Utah and Hokkaido is the volume
of snow. Many of the resorts in Utah such as Alta, Snowbird and Park City
receive around 500 inches on average (around 13 metres) whilst ski resorts
in Hokkaido such as Niseko accumulate an average of 15 metres (590 inches).".
这应该说的就是降雪量吧。
再看看这篇:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?
Here is a list of the 10 snowiest locations in the U.S. by annual average
snowfall (various periods of record):
... 阅读全帖
e*****e
发帖数: 1949
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滑雪,温泉,寿司。
机票酒店已定。现有4人确定。欢迎加入。PM for details.
e*****e
发帖数: 1949
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顶一下,欢迎偶遇。
e*****e
发帖数: 1949
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滑雪,温泉,寿司。
机票酒店已定。现有4人确定。欢迎加入。PM for details.
e*****e
发帖数: 1949
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顶一下,欢迎偶遇。
v*******8
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去年去过不错的
b*******e
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穷游论坛[总版主]比利白最近写了一篇日本滑雪游记
http://bbs.qyer.com/thread-1422930-4.html
文中数次强调Kiroro平均年降雪21米!平均!
平均827英寸是什么概念!?
版大家门口的Alta、
世界降雪记录保持者Baker、
本版第一神山Bachelor、
科州第一降雪Wolf Creek、
平均大概在五六百英寸。
而且Kiroro山顶海拔只有1200米(约3900英尺),完全不用担心高反!
而且北海道有和Utah齐名的世界第一粉!
然而Kiroro网站上并没有提供"年降雪"这个概念,
http://www.kiroro.co.jp/en/winter/snow-weather/
宣传册上只有average base depth 290cm,
那么问题来了,这个年降雪数据可靠吗?
日本的雪场年降雪数据去哪儿找?
嗯 我知道年降雪数据并不能保证实际体验,请勿在意这个细节……
顺便说一句,新雪谷Niseiko年降雪是15米/590英寸,具体见这里
http://ramatniseko.com/niseko-info/snow-statistics... 阅读全帖
q*c
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Kiroro, Niseko, Rusutsu, Furano, 和Tomamu五个滑雪场加起来,没有Vail的一半大
p*******g
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有山上约的吗? 我双板,下山也可以一起吃东西
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