H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 1 http://www.icmbot.com/
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 2 Thank you for the kind words! LHE and NLHE does have distinct differences.
I try to explain my reasoning behind the hands so it's easier for everyone
to follow along. It won't always be right, but at least people can see
where I'm coming from with the logic.
I've played plenty of NLHE but would not consider myself an expert in NLHE
theory aside from its overlap with poker in general. I play whatever game
that looks the best and sometimes that's NLHE, but because of the work I've
put into LHE,... 阅读全帖 |
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h******n
发帖数: 4 | 3
我是台湾人 但牌手称不上… 只是个娱乐型玩家
Galfond的影片当然是水准最好的，但不一定最适合刚入门或是从NL转过去打PLO的人。
而且我自己感觉Galfond的影片中，最好的似乎还是NLHE HU >>> PLO or NLHE 6max
另外就是PLO现在似乎赢家的风格差距相对NLHE还是比较大的，所以我猜多看各种名家
打牌应该不碍事。
另外还有一个比较少人知道的网站：
http://www.pokerphenoms.com/
是以前的pokernews strategy
以前曾经为了看nanonoko的影片订阅过
我知道里面的LitleBastrd 做的plo影片似乎也不错
URnotINdanger2 则是NLHE PLO双方面都很厉害的高手… |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 4 limit format整个来说在～2000年之前是比NL流行。70年代是draw/lowball最热门，80
年代是stud，90年代hold'em开始大众化，特别是tv coverage加上holecard viewing让
NLHE几乎一年内就追上LHE。我是在boom2-3年前开始玩的，当时Indian Reservation赌
场是5-6桌LHE，1桌Stud，1桌NLHE。3年后，NLHE跟LHE几乎反过来了。新的玩家来赌场
都是想要玩他们在电视上看到的扑克。从此LHE一蹶不振。
2010大概是LHE的lowpoint，不过最近LHE又开始revival了。不仅LHE，连stud format,
draw, 甚至pot-limit format，which was only popular in Europe,又渐渐的regain
market（table）share。
我个人认为5-10年后还是会渐渐恢复non-NLformat的因为NLformat还是太伤fish的和气
。而大部分人还是fish要玩什么就玩什么。fish也不笨。NLHE attracted an ent... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 5 pwd:jiggerypokery
International Series of Online Poker
The ISOP #2 Schedule is as follows:
> > Sat, Nov 14th, 2009, 18.00ET
> > ISOP WARM UP EVENT
> > 9-HANDED NLHE
> > $10+1
> > 10 minute levels
> > 1500 stack
> > Sun, Nov 15th, 2009, 16.00ET
> > ISOP - EVENT I
> > 6-HANDED NLHE - Antes From The Start
> > $100+9
> > 12 minute levels
> > 5K stack
> > Sun, Nov 15th, 2009, 17.00ET
> > ISOP - EVENT II
> > 9-HANDED NLHE
> > $24+2
> > 10 minute levels
> > 3K stack
> > Sun, Nov 15th, 2009, 18.00ET
> > |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 6 首先声明超级菜鸟一只。
周五马掌赌场。以前都是玩１－２的NLHE，看了潭老师的大作觉得LHE也很有意思，而
且好象和NLHE打发也不太一样，于是决定尝试一下LHE，注册了５－１０LHE的桌子。
上桌BUYIN了５００，马上就被嘲笑了。最多一个人是买了３００＋的CHIP。有某白说
你不是走错桌子了吧。脸红。下注大小也是DEALER提醒，不知道啥时候能压５块啥时候
能压１０块。去之前抓紧时间看了SUPERSYSTEM２里面关于LHE的头２０页。决定打的
TIGHT一点。坐了４个小时，打了差不多８０＋手？反正感觉比NLHE要快一些。很少有
人长考。自己参与了应该最多２０％。其中１０手参与较深，其他几手参与较浅。
上桌９人。一个女的打的不错。比较凶,LAG。决大多数喜欢LIMP不喜欢RAISE。三个人
极其LOOSE，基本上参与５０％的HANDS,CALLING STATION.剩下３个人比较TIGHT。有牌
才打,NIT?。我本人也属于TIGHT类型的,正在努力做TAG型。剩下一个人看不太出来。
其中两手牌。
UTG（CALLSTATION） raise preflop
fold fold ... 阅读全帖 |
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t******b
发帖数: 56 | 7 Books:
Cole South aka cts, Tri Nguen - Let There Be Range
Andrew Seidman aka BalugaWhale - Easy Game - Making Sense of NLHE
Rob Eckstut aka BobboFitos - Bobbo’s Bible of No Limit
Oliver Marx aka Improva - The Poker Puzzle
all four books are geared toward online short-handed or headsup
small/mid stake NLHE poker.
Site:
Cardrunners: featurs high stakes player such as Cole "cts" South,
David "raptor" benefield, Brian "Stinger" Hastings, Brian "aba" Townsend
and Haseeb "internet pokers" Qureshi vide |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 8 online pot最大也就是昨天的800+k plo pot. 据doyle说这个夏天bellagio
bobby's room最大的plo pot是2M+, patrick antonius和david benyanmine还有一个
人之间的. 何况hsp6里durrrr和barry b之间就出现过900+k nlhe pot.
million dollar cash 里durrrr和phil ivey出现过1+M nlhe pot.
. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 it is not really popular in local casino, but if you visit Vegas during
wsop , you will find out how popular it is now. During 2008 Wsop, I played a
lots of 5/10 NL in Rio , by then , on middle-high stakes game, it is like
half NLHE, half other games(PLO,mixed etc). But during WSOP 2010, there is
only 4-5 tables for NLHE over 10-25 limit, all other tables are PLO and
mixed games. Some are even straight razz, triple draw, stud HL. Now days all
almost all high stakes are mixed games. There is almo... 阅读全帖 |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 10 我最近在组织国内的一些同学玩playmoney homegame。不过是美国周六上午
发信人: TheReaver (I have outs~), 信区: Poker
标 题: TSOP 13th 报名
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比赛开始时间：
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点注
册就可以了。
共有3个比赛：
Event 1: 320买入的NLHE，1500起始筹码
Event 2: 320买入的PLO，1500起始筹码
Event 3 (Main Event): 1050买入的NLHE，3000... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 11 Got sick after 1 week's live play and stayed at room whole day. Did not
play any poker last few days, live or online. Find some really good reading
on 2p2 HSNL board.
It is probably posted here before, but I think most of you do not mind my
posting here again since it is so helpful.
This is from Jman28(phil Galfond)
" If you are near someone who plays poker and is smart, spend as much time
around them as you can if you want to improve your game. "
I really like this statement!
I star... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 12 plo is messy. Any possiblity goes up 6X. Better not go nuts without
nuts and until river
Remember once, I won an 215 SCOOP thru satellite. I flop nut straight and
check raise and allin after re-raise. The guy had
set on flop and reach boat on turn. As that says, even you had the
nuts, you cannot go nuts until river. Anytime you allin before river, there
is either 35% or 18% you got beaten on river.
Overall that is worse than allin on flop w/ TPTK and get called by middle pair
at NLHE. You do not... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 13
took
If
0
I
they have poker room now?
know
That's not the exact story with Barona - I can tell you what the story/
background is in person heh. But for all intents and purposes, they watch
that game closely yeah and now it's gone forever (at least likely forever).
Oceans is a small card club but decent size player pool. 10/20 NL always
runs 2 tables Tuesday and Friday, and often the game goes into Wednesday/
Saturday primetime. There is usually a 5/10 as well (500-3000 buy-in).
I usually pla... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 14 Yeah at the end of the day Holdem is Holdem so I was wrong to say one is
strategically deeper than the other. The scope of the game is still the same
. And I thought about it last night a lot of what I say applies to advanced
LHE probably applies to advanced NLHE too. I just don't play NLHE at a high
level. :) |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 15 你一般都打哪种level啊？ PLO or NLHE？ 觉得那里的2/5 NLHE比较juicy，5/10没有
试过。 |
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A**U
发帖数: 1116 | 16 buy-in 650 on 7/21, cash out 1650 on 9/20, with 250 balance. played 4-6
tables 0.25/0.5 NLHE average 1-2 hours a day. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 http://betting.betfair.com/poker/bloggers/just-who-is-isildur1-111109.html
Just who is Isildur1?.Bloggers / Dave Allan / 11 November 2009 / Leave a
comment
Every couple of months a new "face" appears at the high stakes tables to rub
shoulders with the big names of online poker.
After 7,375 hands of NLHE he had taken durrrr for $810,000 and then won a
further $409,000 in just 122 hands of Pot-limit Omaha for a total bank of $1
,292,364.
The usual story is that they go on some sort of heater and |
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a*****r
发帖数: 19 | 18 It seems that ivey is the winner tonight. They were playing 3 500/1000 NLHE
tables. I think the initial buyin is
600k (200k on each table) and ivey ended up around 1.7m in total. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 19 Looks like Ivey is always the winner over Isildur. PA sometimes loses, but
overall a big winner over him, too.
NLHE |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 20 you can log like 1000h/hr in NLHE and 700h/hr in PLO when 4-tabling. much
less stress than 8-tabling ring tables and more hands! |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 21 revolution it is. if ftp introduces SNE-like program in near future, it's
no longer a dream to be a pro playing small stakes NLHE/PLO making $60+/hr. |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 22 read it twice already. it's worth every penny of it. the strategy section
is actually very valuable, altho i didn't buy the book for this section and
i don't play nlhe now. the chapitre about 5 tips to use your position is
pure gold. just these pages pay for the whole book in a couple of nights.
i second king's recommendation, wholeheartly. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 23 I play my main game for building my roll and I play all kinds of poker games
at micro level for learning something new when I'm tired with NLHE. I maybe a
dog in these games but that's o.k. small money won't hurt my roll, I just
treat them as a hobby like tennis/golf which I have to pay some money to
play. Badbeat won't be so bad when I play for fun and badbeat others is
really interesting. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 24 lol, 10 mixed game, what are they?
LHE,NLHE,PLO,LO8,stud,stud8,razz,2-7 tri draw,5 card draw,badugi?
out
will get my ass handed to me if i go any higher than the 1-2c game. |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 25 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 叹为观止 cool. switching to think range is a huge step in NL!
I am trying to do the same with PLO, not so evidently helpful, mostly
because in PLO ppl play much more str8forward and it is much more likely for
ppl to have what they represent. my conclusion for now is that range isn't
as useful in PLO as in NLHE. |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 26 PS的freeroll少的可怜，而且我不喜欢他们的界面所以一直没关注。FTP每2小时有一个
7500人的freeroll，45人ITM。而且种类不同，记得是有一场razz 1场omaha 1场HORSE
，剩下的都是NLHE。 |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 28 jungleman现在是不是headup nlhe第一人了? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 29 you guys should read this issue of card player, which has an interview with
jungleman12, daniel cates, a student in univ. of maryland.
he said durrrr is ego-centric and arrogant to have this 3:1 challenge with
him (he beat durrrr badly before in NLHE), and durrrr has a few leaks.
it's funny he didn't choose PLO as the game since he only started learning
PLO when durrrr was playing challenge one with PA, LOL.
he lost $500K and another 90K to Isildur1 in 2 days last Dec. and for a moment,
he thoug... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 30 几点杂感。
除了高不可攀的如david chiu, johnny chan等人，和网络无法考证的中国玩家，fcf的
确是俺孤漏寡闻知道的一个另类。
不知道别人，俺耗了3年，只能说属于很平庸的，还在1/2NL, 50NL，micro stake
tournament这样的低级别grind，虽然论战绩，一年下来有个一万，还能的确比那75%的
强。看怎么定义聪明和努力了，但俺觉得总体不行。
看了cardplayer上起码有100个高手的经历，俺以前归纳过，3年似乎真是个坎，3年没
咋的的(不管什么原因)，再给3年也白搭。
经济差，扑克也受很大影响，UIGEA打击也很大，熬到现在的玩家，俺不敢说还有多少
真是fish, donk，长期送钱的角色，谁对谁真有多大的edge。
咱可能打了几手牌，觉得某个玩家很鱼，其实很可能只是盲人摸象而已。俺现在给谁
记笔记，都争取客观一些，而且如果一个玩家有一阵不见了，最新的动态俺也争取及
时更新，大家都在进步。PLO只所以被炒作要流行(其实也没咋的)，其实的确是因为
NLHE这些年给人吃得很透。
很多pros自己也承认，一年下来其实主要是靠bonus和rake... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 31 I forgot to mention, this stats is for 6-max NLHE.
I am not really sure it is good for full ring or HU |
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D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 32 I forgot to mention, this stats is for 6-max NLHE.
I am not really sure it is good for full ring or HU |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 33 I only play RUSH PLO now. You might try that out. Your play
is not very suitable to RUSH NLHE unless you switch. |
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G********r
发帖数: 666 | 34 I ran into Jamie Gold a few weeks ago. He was playing 10-25 NLHE. He
seemed a decent guy but sure was losing at the time. |
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G********r
发帖数: 666 | 35 Live 1-2 NLHE
Two limpers then a regular sitting to my immediate right raised to 15 (7.5BB
). The player had a stack of about 200 and had played a decent TAG game,
normally nit style but had a tendency to play bluff catching hero. Stack
size at 105, I was at High Jack with pocket JJ and called the 15. Folded to
an EP loose limper who also called.
Flop came AcQcJc and went check-check to me. I bet 20, EP folded and the
original raiser announced all-in.
Given the information, what would you d... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 how nice to have durr as one of your friend to talk about poker.. lol
Talking about on another level.
"Meeting Tom (durrrr) was a huge part of my move to high stakes play. He
opened my mind to thinking about situations completely differently. I
remember one time when he was discussing a hand with h@ll in front of me,
where he had something like weak top pair and was facing a big river bet. He
was like, 'I think a call is better than a fold' and I thought to myself, '
yeah I agree' and then he s... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 37 So he estimated he had about 50% equity on the river. What if villain moved
allin (which isildur1 will do but nowadays people call him down light)? And
how about he moves allin (which durrr may do as a value + bluff)...
The texture of the board warrants it's more on the bluff side though because
it's hard for worse hands to make a hero call.
Below is what Phil told in that well thread. As you can see, it's not
exactly the same kind of board. So I'm not sure if durrr would raise allin
for the abo... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 38 I observed a NL25 PLO 6-max table the other day and some players are really
bad. They play a lot of trash hands and stick with 2-pair or non nut flush
or straight draw (just draw!).
But the whole PLO pool is not big. I took a look at PLO rush tables, there
were just about 100 players while there were about 400-500 players at NLHE
table (including multi tabling).
Maybe trying PLO is a good idea.. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 39 why not two games at side all weeks, with more weight on quarterly/semi/
final?
One is NLHE and the other rotates(TD, Draw, PLO, Stud, etc).
Just make it turbo and finish in 1.5 hours. |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 40
hold
贪没有什么不好啊！贪才有动力！我就是贪吃，贪睡，贪玩（和爱LP，LP也看mitbbs,
不想又被骂没出息）
Limit hold'em has bigger swings because it's much harder to protect hands
given the fixed betting structure. When you can't protect your hand with a
pot-sized bet, or more importantly, when you can't protect your hand through
the fear of future large bets - a lot more hands get to the river (right or
wrong). In other words, people realize their hand's equity far more
frequent in Limit Hold'em than in No Limit Hold'em. When that happe... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 41 上周参战PLO和NLHE的两个TOURNEY，头一次打多桌，结果搞的手忙脚乱。这边还在考虑
是不是RAISE，那边就发牌了等ACTION。
两边都要看，搞的很头痛。打牌是个信息处理的过程，请教一下各位打４－１０张桌子
的大牛们，你们怎么搞的啊，怎么过滤无用信息的啊。 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 42 Yeah I agree with this. Most of my friends believe LHE is deeper
strategically than NL at the higher levels. Because of the fixed-bet format
a lot of setups is more delicate and requires adaptation to game flow /
dynamic elements. You're also forced to make plays more at the big-bet
streets, and LHE has more multi-street aggression change. As long as you
are in a high enough stakes or serious enough game, these elements will be
the key difference between winning or losing.
Also a lot of peo... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 43 does LHE have concept of value bet thin too? What was the river-bet to pot
ratio in that hand? fish me still can not understand the weak river bluff
from villain. what hand did he want to drive off? Fish me think, in most
cases, hero sends one more bet to the made NUTs and in some rare cases
villain might bluff with better hands. Can teacher Tan explain the
difference between NLHE bluff and LHE bluff. |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 44 We are from LA area but now live in San Diego. We always like making new
friends!
In general, it's safe to assume anything a dealer tells you regarding poker
is wrong (unless it's eye-visible things like who consistently walks out
with the most money, etc). With that said, there's a lot of skill in every
popular form of poker.
It's too early to tell whether my wife will be a good poker player or not.
Her bankroll is slowly building which is a very good thing - either she's
becoming a winning ... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 45 http://www.atkinator.net/2011/10/sunday-million-runner-up-loses
Cliff notes:
Player Won $148,300 finishing 2nd in the Sunday Million last Sunday (2nd
Oct)
Proceeded to lose a majority of it in $5,000 Heads Up SNGs
Played various stakes Heads Up Hyper Turbo SNGs, and ended up playing $
15 heads ups with the remainder of his roll.
Busto, and resorting to playing FPP satellites :-/
The last time a player gained this notoriety was perhaps 'bommel222' who won
$30,000 by finishing in 2... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 849 | 46 很长时间以前玩过NLHE，大概2008年以后就不打了。这几天youtube上看了几个poker视
频手又痒了，不知道online poker现状如何？我记得当时一直在pokerstars打，party
poker也打过但很快关门了。那时主要打着好玩，50NL能赢2-3BB/100，100NL阻力很大
，勉强持平，觉得长期grind太没劲就quit了。
现在是不是更tough？如果业余玩玩试试sit-n-go如何？ |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 好久不逛2+2 了， 昨天去看到个有意思的。大家怎么看？call, fold?
====================
Some background info first:
it's a live 10/20 nlhe game with no cap. table is deep. I just say down
about 2 orbits ago with 13k and haven't played a single hand yet.
Villan in this hand is unknown and hasn't played in the past town orbits
either and he has about the same stack.
Hero: KsKh and raises to 80
Villan: calls 80
4 more guys call.
Flop ($480): KdQcQh
Hero: bets $120
Villan quickly calls $120
Everyone else folds
Turn($720): Td
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k***n
发帖数: 849 | 49 现金局差不多吧，至少NLHE Dwan因该还强一点点，其他的都不大关键，呵呵。Ivey综
合能力最强，这个毫无疑问，他比Doyle少了至少40岁，比chan少了快20岁吧？已经9个
手链，只比Doyle和Chan少一个，现金局就更不用比了。 |
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k***n
发帖数: 849 | 50 Hellmuth在big field tourney是很强呀，只不过他那套在high level现金局不管用罢
了。Ivey拿了那么多乱七八糟的手链，不正是说明他综合能力强么？其实他NLHE比赛成
绩不差的，就是第一名太少了，好像就WPT拿过一个，进了n多次final table。。。 |
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