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f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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俺最深刻的经验就是2条:
1) 如同房市的location, location, location,扑克的position, position,
position,没有再值得更重视的了,不管是什么风格。牌好牌坏,position都顶得上一
个师!有position,连bluff都是一个常见武器。因此,找座位,换座位远比换换手气
的理由大;
2)什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟,不管是fold, call, raise,脑子多转一个弯太不一样
了。
至于具体AT,JJ这样的牌,说实话,俺觉得都是非常marginal的牌,没有位置更是如此
,这种牌很难赢大锅,但是经常闯小祸。
player老大的指示,AJ这样的牌前位直接扔,但是67,哪怕是offsuit,raise。
确实,stack越深,67o这样的牌潜力越大,preflop raise先下手为强增加隐蔽性,没
hit flop也容易扔或者因地制宜(因为preflop action)。这种牌伤起人来经常是stack
的问题,比如上周贴的那个12K大锅。

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c******q
发帖数: 456
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+1
I also want to add another point, assess your hand strength relatively
rather than absolutely.
I show two examples to illustrate my point,
(1) LP raised to $20, SB called and a MP limper (an old guy) called. Flop
came JcTc7h. SB led out with $25, MP raised to $75, PFR made it $220 total,
SB folded. MP thought for 10 secs and shoved with $900ish total, PFR called
with 77 of flopped bottom set. The old guy showed 89s and won the pot.
A set on flop is certainly a strong made hand. And a lot ... 阅读全帖
b*****t
发帖数: 52
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 两手牌请教一下大家
my 2 cents, first one is a dead end. best case is you bet not all in on the
turn your opponent call slow play and you check on the river, he bet, u
MIGHT fold if you put him on a set or a two pair. save like 40 bucks.
second case, yeah 99 all in AQ all the time. odds slightly favor you if you
do it 1000 times you win. in that specific case, 99 is not too strong to
call a all in, i put whoever all in on a two high cards or a reasonable pair
. you are dominated with 4 pairs but dominate 3 pairs an... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 来讨论看牌方式
together, it's sick to see one ace first, then a deuce offsuit, lol.
and i'm lefty.
T*********k
发帖数: 1621
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 出来混总是要还的
周末 NL 2/5 的桌子,不知什么地方来了一头白人老驴,每个 pot 必 raise,reraise
,坐下 10 分钟不到已经 double 了几个 nit 两把。
SB 拿到 AsAc,$340 左右的 medium stack,知道老驴要 raise,心想这下该轮到我喝
汤了吧。果然老驴 raise $30, 我 pop 到 $120,老驴想了一想 call。
Td8d3d 的 flop,what the fuck? 硬着头皮 shove $220,幸好驴 tank。旁边的 nit
悄悄对我说这下安啦。我说这手牌还没完呢,这牌面,我还真希望他能 fold,一个
pair 能赚点 medium pot 就成。
驴挣扎了快 1 分钟, call。尼玛,我有点忐忑的 flip AA,他不情愿的翻出 Tc5s,
没有 flush dr,没有 str draw。我一个 good 还没有说完,该死的老中 dealer 就翻
出一个 offsuit 5
出来,老驴振臂欢呼,我慢慢的倒了。。。倒下去前还不忘跟 nit 说一句,what I
told u?
尼玛,心想WSN 赚点钱真 TM 不容... 阅读全帖
D********i
发帖数: 78
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 请教一手牌,请大家使劲拍砖。
下面大部分用中文写。因为我觉得对牌的描述用英文较方便,对于自己的想法和打法用
中文描述更加清楚。
问题主要集中于最后一把牌。首先要说的是,这把牌ATo@BB从一开始打的就是错的。但
是我有我自己的想法。我先把我当时的想法写下来,后面的反思再补充。我和big
stack之间对于彼此并没有太多的information。但是我觉得他至少是一个decent
player。因为通过我的观察,在他坐在桌上的时间里,他不管在不在玩都很注意看整个
的action,而不是fold掉之后就抬头开始看NBA了,所以我觉得他赢得那么多筹码不是
完全靠运气,而是有一定的实力,capable of folding his second best hand。除了
最后一句,是我在这手牌之前对他的印象,最后一句是我在拿到ATo之后的想法。
面对他的raise,我3-bet的理由是:
1. 保护我的盲注,看看他会不会fold。
2. 因为我俩并没有在一桌上共同呆过很长时间,我并不太清楚他的range在哪里,MP 3
.5x 开锅可以代表很多手牌,尤其是对于一个big stack。我又OOP,所以需要更多的
inform... 阅读全帖
w***w
发帖数: 6301
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - S神Never fold 63,那我这个73o?
7s4s 怎么可能比73o equity小?你对这个不奇怪,反倒对后面的奇怪。
7s4s heads up对73o是33%对20%,另有46% tie。
In order to get your conclusion,4 must have less equity than 3 and suited
must have less equity than offsuit.
y*******3
发帖数: 50
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一把有争议的牌...
周末跑来玩了二天2/5 game
刚有一把牌太好玩了 跟大家说说
我Q 8 offsuit, 另外一个越南人拿的Q 9
flop 4 Q 8... Q8 是草花 我check raise flop... Q9 called
Turn 是个方块10
我bet the whole pot 她tank一会还是call了 river 草花 6
我check 她all in 我500的筹码还剩240 她的比我多
我问她我fold 她能show给我看吗 聊了几句她以为我fold了 把牌亮出来了...
叫来manager 最后manager说我可以call 我 call了...
越南女的还叫来一个男的帮她 说最后240不给我了 我没同意 哈哈
是国人我就算了 越南人必须给他们教训
i********r
发帖数: 1153
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来自主题: Gamble版 - 答案2
1. You are in MP2 with KJo. It is folded to you.
a. Fold (2 points)
b. Call (0 points)
c. Raise (11 points)
主要是强调在MP,LP open-limp是个非常不好的习惯,尤其是offsuit牌
2. You are in MP1 with AJo. UTG+1, a tight-neutral type (15/6/1.9), opens for
a raise. UTG+2 folds to you.
a. Fold (15 points)
b. Cold-Call (-8 points)
c. Three-bet (-5 points)
AJo is a dominated hand against preflop raiser.
3. You are UTG+2 with 99. UTG is a lag-tastic maniacal type (58/28/2.4), and
open-raises.
a. Fold (0 points)
b. Cold-call (4
e**********i
发帖数: 108
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来自主题: Gamble版 - holdem tournament一例
35刀buyin的holdem tournament,大约80人左右。这手牌发生在100/200的时候,当时
我是chip leader at the table,about 9000 chips, average is 4000, i was in
early position, 我拿AK offsuit,I raised to 1200, 只有在button的老头call,he
has 7000 chips. flop来了 A(diamond), 5(club), 6(heart),我bet500, 他raise
to 1000, 我all in,他call, 亮牌后他是A10 suited(club), turn是个4(club),river
is 10(diamond), I lost. 我想看看大家的意见,这是纯粹unlucky还是打法策略上有
什么问题?
n*******y
发帖数: 3337
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【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at r... 阅读全帖
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 好像喜欢打NL的多,为什么?
NL game depends more on skill than luck, so for middle or high stake
holdem, I suggest NLgame.
for example , you can't protect your hands in limit hold'em( especially
in low stake)
I got KK one time raise, reraise ,cap bf flop( only 1-2$ blind)
6 people in and whatever I bet on the turn and river, they just chased.
river there are 3 4 5 6 10 on the board,
they raise , reraise, I just laydown my KK
one guy show 3 7 off suit, the other guy show 78 offsuit.
this will never happen in NL, I push them
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - about one hand
That is the correct answer.
I gave him too much credit, obviously he is not that good,
and he showed his 45 offsuit.
So sometimes if you think your player might think as your think and if they
are not that good as you , you made big mistake.
w****r
发帖数: 90
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 简单介绍一下fulltiltpoker
这样的牌我赢过很多次, 非常不讲理. 我赢round 1 first place那次, 我还曾经2 5
offsuite 弄死过a set of As. 那人已经够谨慎的了, pocket As, slow play, 见到
flop 又出了张A才跟我all in, 我那时只有手里的5和flop的5, bottom pair, 居然
turn 和river连出两张5, 我都疯掉了.
s**h
发帖数: 262
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 周三的一手牌
2/5 NL game, big blind raise to $25, 4 guys called. I folded J5 offsuit on
button. Big blind is a lady who is kind of wild. Flop came3 4 5 rainbow,
small blind check, the lady bet $60, one guy (good player) called, another
guy raise to $210, small blind is a chinese guy, he showed me his pocket 3s
and folded. The lady call. The other guy moved all in for another $900. We
were all excited. The raiser instantly called with his $500. The lady
thought about a while, someone put a clock on her. She f
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - bluff or not?
This hand remind me one hand in highstake poker.( NL blind 300/600)
John Juvanda raised 2000$ Qj suited on the bottun, one other pro( called A)
called his K 9 offsuit.
flop K x x , very dry no draw at all.
Player A checked to John , he bet 5000, player A check raised to 10000$,
John think about for a while and reraise another 20000$, Player A called ,
turn is K , Player A all in John fold.
In this case John bluff first and got checked raised but he smelled player'
A weakness ( if A really have
A**U
发帖数: 1116
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 这么多潜水的。。。
这两天手气不好。
One hand i was in late position, somebody raise to 9 in early position, i
has AA and re-raise to 29. Everyone folded and he re-raised all in.
He showed his KQ offsuit and community cards were
9KQ K 2.
ft. to death.
A**U
发帖数: 1116
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - A hand from last night.
Pocket 9s, raised to 8 chips in early position. One loose guy called heads-
up.
Flop came K97 rainbow. I bet 7, he called.
Turn A. I check, he checked.
River 9. I bet 20, he folded but accidentally flipped his cards over, 57
offsuite. I was speechless.
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - finally gave people a bad beat
pocket AA
one guy bet 15$, a crazy guy call15$( he all in 200$ by 89 off before)
I have to raise, to 50$. first one fold, crazy guy called. flop JJ10, he
said allin just in front of me (150$) , I know he may have J, just really
can't lay down.
I called, turn nothing, river is A!
He showed J4 offsuit... I hit my two outs on the river.
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - bluff or not ?
he may bluff too.
any way, I never called these kind of bet by only 1 pair.
I folded, he show his blufff 4 7 offsuited.
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - about bluffing.
He show 10 6 offsuited!
crazy chaser.
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - AA out of position
he show A4 offsuited.
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - KA vs very aggressive player
live game commerce NL200( 3/5)
1. KA offsuited big blind
a very loose guy bet 30$ under the gun , 2 players called, should I
reraise or just call bf flop...
I chose to call, flop A d 6d 7c, I check he bet 150$( he will have
anything in this case now) other guys fold I have 370$ left, now what to do
is the best choice..
2. KA both diamond
i bet 20$ , 4 people callled , there are 100$ in the pot ( I have 150$ left
)
flop 8d6d4c, I first act, should I all in , check call, check raise all in
or
m*****i
发帖数: 1873
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - 3 hand last night in commerce.
1. I asked how much money he left( since there are no chips in front of him)
and dealer said 100$ more then I called 75$ more
flop is K xx , and this guy( the reason I called him I believe he is a loose
guy and later on I confirmed that) pretend he is all in !( he know he as
100$ left behind).
and dealer mentioned he still have 100$, then he all in 100$ very reluctant.
should I called the left 100$?
2. I folded, and he show 34 offsuited I still think this is a good folded,
he call me just to blu
i********r
发帖数: 1153
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - SNG tourney yesterday
o means offsuit, x means low card that doesn't matter
y********n
发帖数: 2063
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来自主题: _TexasHoldem版 - pokeryjj比窦娥还冤
我打这种人多的老是PATIENCE不足. -----chip up and stay alive always a problem. Sometimes hard to balance.
kk, I found your turbo game is not easy at all. Look at my 10bb stack, and my a 10 offsuit utg. Really no clue how to play with it.
You can try more MTT for practicing. MTT is a little different. Into the
money, still around 100 ppl left. Just thinking you take another 100ppl game
, and you need to win this game as well.
Watched 100Rebuy turbo game last week. jse81(famous player) played it very
creative
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