L**F
发帖数: 615 | 1 我看Omaha 很多时候是“就这么定了，准备开球”的意思。 |
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L**F
发帖数: 615 | 2 我看Omaha 很多时候是“就这么定了，准备开球”的意思。 |
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L**F
发帖数: 615 | 3 写得很不错， 曾经拜读过。Collingworth在SNF也解释过，和你写的意思差不多。
但Reggie Wayne 说白菜喊Omaha是把play从场地一侧调整到另一侧。 |
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s******r
发帖数: 21961 | 4 不完全是，如果原call是跑，Omaha后改为扔
原来是第一read是右改为左
根据原来的call来 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 5 omaha不了解，不过龙哥的cadence是Green 18。口号本身可能有些意思，但是关键在龙
哥怎么喊的，长的，短的，慢的，快的，有停顿，没停顿，重音在Green，Eight or
Teen， 等等，都包含有信号。主要还是sync up snap count，特别是骗offside的时候
，这个口号喊得很重要。
Reggie Wayne讲的不能说是瞎编，但肯定不能全信。我觉得这帮主持人都是在逗我们玩
。娱乐为主。 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 6 大曼宁?
现在好像是dolphins在喊omaha |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 quickly and mistakenly entered into two low buy-in (of course) online omaha
hi and razz sit n go tourneies (18 and 9 players) during the weekend...
too late by the time when i realized i had been dealt more than 2 cards, LOL
...
i have to believe there's such thing called beginner's luck, after i won
both of them.
not really that complicated when you have good cards, googling at the same
time for rules, unreasonable donkey calls/bets/raises, low skilled opponents
...
time to play HORSE now? hehe |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 8 Razz is the most boring game can be played be robot. The casino cut it to
HOSE even they got enough people on list.
O is hi/lo there and tourment mostly is Pot limit Hi, I think the game
required most maths among all games. There are times you should laydown the
nut on flop for heavy actions. Probanly getting freerolled by split hand
plus redraws.
omaha
LOL
opponents |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 great!!
i'm still learning the game (just bought my first omaha book by jeff hwang).
.. have to say my small brain can't take 4 hole cards and two ways to win
well, lol.
although i managed to understand the following was a good hand... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 10 Omaha requires more skills. That means if you play it well, you have more
edges. But that also means newbies won't play it and you may not easily find
fish in casino (or you may be the fish...) |
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d*****r
发帖数: 39446 | 11 【此篇文章是由自动发信系统所张贴】
⊙ 此次投票的允许资格为:
1. 上站次数需大于 1 次 .
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⊙ 投票开启于：Mon Jan 5 14:04:02 2009 类别：是非
⊙ 主题：是否举办Omaha H/L比赛
⊙ 票选题目描述：
为了进一步活跃版面比赛，如果有5人以上参加，就考虑举办,buy-in还是$5.5
【选项如下】
(1) 赞成 （是的）
(2) 不赞成（不是）
(3) 没意见（不清楚） |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 12 Poker要解读两种概率:
一个是根据board cards和hole cards算的概率,这个是死概率.
一个是从对手的action,style,position,等等context,揣度对手的牌.这个是活概率.难
度要更大.
omaha 虽然算的复杂一点,但是都是死概率.除非数学太差才掌握不了. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 我把poker的功夫分三部分:
1.死概率
2.活概率
3.打法.
打法的目的就是让对手摸不清自己的路子.一会实,一会虚.
omaha 在死概率上更复杂一点,却因此压缩了活概率和打法上的空间.
就好象两个人比搏击,但允许用的武器太多,最后比的是谁更会用武器,而不是各自的拳脚. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 14 H/L电视里显示了百分比都看得晕晕的。。
则.
omaha |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 15 我上次以为报了个hold'em，进去一看发现是stud，也是上来就google。后来还问别人
牌要是不够了怎么办。真的是不懂啊。
则.
omaha |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 great post, please continue, i want to learn some other games too.
played a little bit omaha and razz.
low则high
low |
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I**n
发帖数: 839 | 17 LOL, follow this thread should get you started.
The books about o8
Ray Zee's high low spit book
Jeff Hwang's PLO book has one chapter exclusively for o8
Super System 2 has one chapter (by Eric Seidel?)
Bob Ciaffone's Omaha Poker (soso book, not as his famous book MLHP)
我就是试图写一篇更系统的入门手册 不知道能不能完成
but |
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I**n
发帖数: 839 | 18 从本节开始 我希望你“能动阅读” 对每个问题 自己想一想 再与下文印证 事实上 即
使在我读过的基本权威著作中 不同作者也有不同的看法 或许你也有自己独到的见解 那么 恭喜你
独立思考是掌握与进阶的利器
回到上一节 对付high probable的high low board 我们的基本策略是主攻低端 兼顾高
端 现在让你点兵 总共有四个名额 先选谁呢
Hint: Who is best low card, i.e. the lowest card in the deck? Who is the
best high card? Who makes the most nut hand?
注意到上面每个问题里都有一个最字 这里必须谈一下最的重要性 omaha绰号the nut
game 因为每人有四张牌 多数情况是只有nut hand才能拿下来 我在live game基本每次都会遇
到quads以上的强牌 bottom full一定要低调 同花顺子满天飞 两对根本就见不得人 the
second best hand比如K high flush, bottom set除了能让你输掉更多的筹码 |
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I**n
发帖数: 839 | 19 A
2
如果让小朋友来选 一定是3 "It's a pattern" 幼儿园的老师教的
点兵到了关键时刻 第三人选却让人费神 再要个Ace? Duece? K? 还有别忘了 假如你是
NBA的GM选秀 你最想要的要不到 退而求其次 你的backup plan呢？
***这里涉及omaha几个极为重要的概念 望细细思量***
我们的目标还在主攻低端 兼顾高端 现在有一半的兵力并且是最强的兵力在主攻低端
the question is, is it enough? 如果兵力部署足够的话 下一张显然再要个Ace , the
best high also the best low card 此消彼长 敌人就少了个ACE 这是另一个好处 but
the question is, is it enough?
还记得你玩holdem时 raise with KK时 ACE总是在不该来的时候来 更有甚者当你有QQ
时 ACE和K都跑来凑热闹 poker就这样 即使是阿喀琉斯也有致命之踵 ACE-Duece也不是刀枪不入
我们的原计划是用A2拿下low half这半个锅子 利于不败之地然后再得蜀望陇 可 |
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I**n
发帖数: 839 | 20 wrap 是omaha里的straight draw 和holdem不同 因为可以用四张牌 连open ended都完全
不值一提 举个简单的例子JT76 on a flop 982 你有20张牌可以成顺子！顺便提一下
这个megawrap 并不是太好 因为很多顺子不是nuts 在PLO里wrap可以大展拳脚 但是在
omaha8中情况有所不同 这里有一个内在的矛盾
顺子牌在中间最容易成牌 因为它可以向两端发展 所以JT一定比KQ成顺子容易 但是omaha8 的规则
决定了搏杀的战场往往在两端 所谓金角银边草肚皮 你的牌要么强攻低端 要么主攻高端
包容兼收当然最好 最最要不得的就是中段 7-9甚至包括6 而两边的牌是不容易成顺子 尤其是ACE
怎么办 凉拌 有ACE就用ACE!
上一节我们已经有了三名选手了A23 or A24 or A25 以A24为例 我们希望在面上先出现
35x 这样我们就形成了一个简单的9outs的wrap 我们有A24678共21牌可以形成nut low其中还
有9张成顺！
回到原来的计划 主攻低端 兼顾高端 我们75%的兵力投入主攻低端 A2再加上back |
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I**n
发帖数: 839 | 21 一手牌的胜负本没什么意义 不过这首牌反映了omaha很多特点 还是值得思考的 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 Yes. Omaha 8(tourney) usually is limit game.
Cash game should have a lot of PL game.
Still remember my first O8 tourney(miniftop) 20 days ago. I am folding
folding, folding. Frykings asked me what I am doing, folding to death. lol
I finally squeeze into the money, my first time into money in ftop series
and miniftop series.
My last hand(11BB) is AA2q on the button, raise it, BB calls, flop 3j8
rainbow, ... somehow BB has j3 in his holding, and somehow BB wins it with 2
pair.
haha, not so bad for |
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a******t
发帖数: 17 | 23 首次发帖, 前两天才发现未名有这个版.
Played in this hand in OMAHA high/low, here goes my confusion.
I had the 23456.
Is it just I dont understand the rules then?
He wins the high hand with a pair of kings and the low hand with 23457.
Still in the tourney, but very low stacks now.
发这个贴问个问题, 顺便给牌友前辈们问个好, 多多关照. ;) |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 haha, even an omaha 250 like me saw it...
post more experience ah, and join our weekly game. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 25 omaha hi/low is so complicated.
just |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 14 17:23:58 2010, 美东)
MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 16
4/17/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 153762849
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 17)
Tournament Date: 4/17/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 19
4/24/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 155902997
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 19)
Tournament Date: 4/24/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
155902997, 系统要 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 21
5/1/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 156544675
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 21)
Tournament Date: 5/1/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
156544675, 系统要求输 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 29 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 23
5/8/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 158185611
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 23)
Tournament Date: 5/8/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
158185611, 系统要求输 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 30 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 25
5/15/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 159652996
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 25)
Tournament Date: 5/15/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
159652996, 系统要 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 27
5/22/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 161155056
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 27)
Tournament Date: 5/22/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
161155056, 系统要 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 MITBBS Series of Poker (MSOP), Event 29
5/29/2010, 10:00PM ET.
$1 for each Knock Out.
祝大家好运, see ya all at the table!
请在各版广为宣传，谢谢。
本周时间仍为西岸同学喜欢的---美东时间周六晚10点---。
TournamentID: 162818493
Tournament Name: MSOP 2010 (Event 29)
Tournament Date: 5/29/2010 (Saturday)
Tournament Time: 10:00PM, ET
Game to be Played: POT LIMIT OMAHA
Buy-In and Entry Fee: $5 + 0.5
Password: forfun
Expected Turnout: 20
已经参加过的选手知道怎么报名了。没参加过的这里再重复一下：
1)在Full Tilt菜单下，选Requests -> "Find Tournament By ID"，输入以上ID：
162818493, 系统要 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 holdem 太没劲了。 要玩就玩OMAHA
--yubaobao. |
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l*******r
发帖数: 328 | 34 can't agree your point.
1. I think Omaha involves more gambling because more drawing opportunities.
for holdem, it's easier to figure out if you are ahead or behind. so you
fold your losing hand and value bet your winning hand to discourage your
opponent from drawing.
2. the more pot you play will not make you win more. you still have the
same odds. it's more gambling because you have more hope that 2 of yours
will hit. |
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j*******g
发帖数: 331 | 36 赞！
This is very good point, but the variance in Omaha seems quite big to me and
it seems quite hard to read other's hand. If I were playing this, I think I
will only feel assured when I have a premium hand. Which is kind of
troublesome since I don't feel safe to make any action other than premium
hand..... but I am just a little fish
Hold
between
you
the
newer
in |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 37 It is hard to pin opponents' specific hards/range in Omaha. I generally
think TYPE of cards villain can hold. Do they hold 4 card rundown, double
suited high pair? On flop or turn, do they have high pair with mild draw or
do they have wrap+flush draw. Try to associate their play with TYPE of cards
they hold. Do they push top two pairs on flop? Do they check the flop and
wait a safe turn to push set, and so on
and
I |
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i*********r
发帖数: 171 | 38 个人情况:
F-1, US visa expired
申请旅游签证
材料：
I-20,I-94,US visa, passport 原件+复印件
bank account, credit card 近三个月statement
机票itinerary
revalidation 官方文件（来源于置顶贴)
准备了没用上的：
proof of enrollment in current university
2寸照片3张
被问的主要问题：
去墨西哥干什么，行程多久
为何没有有效的美国签证
过程:
10：30am到的领事馆，就在路边，很好找。全是墨西哥人办护照的，直接被叫到一列。
vo是个中年
男子，面相和善，事实证明确实极度nice.
先告诉我只有8:00am才办visa，但如果我材料带齐了现在也能给我办。
看完US visa问我有有效的美国签证吗，立即掏出revalidation文件show给他看，一边
自己再说
明下这个条款。两三分钟后同意。
填申请表格。等一小时后排照交钱＄３６。再等半小时后拿到visa,被批了１０年
multiple
entry.
comments:
Omaha的墨西哥 |
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w*****h
发帖数: 2120 | 39 俺也是在Omaha办的,理由就是去墨西哥 renew USA VISA
唯一注意事项就是,如果要当天拿VISA的话,得一早8-9AM就到,因为印制VISA需要几个小
时的时间. |
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z**********8
发帖数: 2049 | 40 7月底，谁会去omaha看女排大奖赛总决赛？认识/联系一下啊。。。 |
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s****a
发帖数: 261 | 41 做过Mutual of Omaha的online assessment,上星期店面了一个小时，根本没有问身份
问题。我想现在开始支持H1b了，我填表时要sponsorship,否则HR不会浪费这么多时间
interview |
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H**********v
发帖数: 169 | 42 要搬到Omaha了,请推荐几个医院吧, 多谢了. |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 43 Got it in my email.
They got Kohl's, JCPenney, Bath Body Works, Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Omaha
Steaks gift cards at 15% off. FREE shipping.
Gonna grab me a few Olive Garden. I know it's not real italian food, but it
's till tasty. =)
Link:
http://www.abcgiftcards.com/store/
Hit up eBay for some coupons. Example: buy one of Kohl's 15% off coupons and
combine with the gift card and you end up getting 30% off whatever item you
buy from Kohl's.
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 44 Here ya go:
http://1saleaday.com
They make you join there Facebook fan-page
"Join Our Facebook Fanpage & Help Yourself to this Omaha 6-in-1 Screwdriver
Set!"
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 quickly and mistakenly entered into two low buy-in (of course) online omaha
hi and razz sit n go tourneies (18 and 9 players) during the weekend...
too late by the time when i realized i had been dealt more than 2 cards, LOL
...
i have to believe there's such thing called beginner's luck, after i won
both of them.
not really that complicated when you have good cards, googling at the same
time for rules, unreasonable donkey calls/bets/raises, low skilled opponents
...
time to play HORSE now? hehe |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 46 Razz is the most boring game can be played be robot. The casino cut it to
HOSE even they got enough people on list.
O is hi/lo there and tourment mostly is Pot limit Hi, I think the game
required most maths among all games. There are times you should laydown the
nut on flop for heavy actions. Probanly getting freerolled by split hand
plus redraws.
omaha
LOL
opponents |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 47 great!!
i'm still learning the game (just bought my first omaha book by jeff hwang).
.. have to say my small brain can't take 4 hole cards and two ways to win
well, lol.
although i managed to understand the following was a good hand... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 48 Omaha requires more skills. That means if you play it well, you have more
edges. But that also means newbies won't play it and you may not easily find
fish in casino (or you may be the fish...) |
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