m***4
发帖数: 93 | 1 MSU outplayed UM the entire game on almost every category(go look at the
stats also) even though they were behind, mostly because of officiating. MSU
was clearly a better team than UM on that game. It would have been a pity
had MSU lost. Agree??? |
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发帖数: 11948 | 2 nova打得很好 Kansas被outplay啊 没choke kansas其实还是不错的 |
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j***4
发帖数: 3119 | 3 昨晚这板上评球的八盖球迷比今天还多。彻底被outcoach，outplay |
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l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 4 应该说，这是现代最高水平的足球走到一定程度上遇到的一个瓶颈，那种“细腻短传
攻势足球”走到死胡同了。
空有控球时间，传球次数“优势”，没用。
真正的优势是看实效，看你通过你的战术，你的GAME PLAN，实际创造真正有威胁的
机会球的多少(机会球的把握看球员的个人能力与心理素质)。从这点上说，前89分钟，
英格兰完全OUTPLAY了法国，真正掌握主动权的是英格兰。
而且现在大家都会这么打。实力相仿的队伍，进了第一球以后，立刻缩回去等对方
出来。连西班牙对最弱的俄罗斯，也是这么打。
所以，第一球至关重要。关系到全场的走向。
法国这场的取胜，是因为某种超出自然人力，不可知的因素起了作用。而这种因素
恰恰就是足球比其他运动(那些单纯拼实力高低的运动)，更有魅力的地方。
那个黄小嘴无非也就是说了一堆正确无比的废话。 |
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l*******o
发帖数: 12469 | 5 哈，先赞一下俺自己，昨天及时地预测到米兰2：1这个比分（有贴为证，虽然卡卡和马
斯切拉诺没进球）。
米兰和利物浦的差别就是一个前锋。米兰的前锋进球了，利物浦的前锋进不了。就是这
个差别。两队各方面都旗鼓相当，场面极其混战，撇开不说。但是有一点，今天贝胖被
安胖在战术上完全outplay了，一直到最后贝胖也没有清醒过来。米兰方面是由于条件
所限，安胖被迫祭出了他的最爱x'mas tree阵型4321，而实际上指望的就是kaka的个人
反击能力和inzaghi的捡漏能力，当然，小皮的任意球也绝对是他的杀手锏。除此之外
，今天的米兰，真的还没有别的招术来破门了。事实证明，安胖的宝确实压对了。
利物浦方面德特短就是没钱锋，所以贝胖今天放出怪招，让Gerrard打前锋。这招其实
还是管用，至少在前20分钟内制造了两次十分有威胁的机会。但是，贝胖的战术完全被
安胖限制。米兰的基本思想就是拼抢中场，然后反击，反击，反击。这样放手让利物浦
进攻。利物浦可惜的一是机会出来了，可进不了球（说实话，看到上半场那几个机会利
物浦没能进球，俺就知道他们是败了！搁05年那运气早进了好几个了，这些机会）;二
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m**l
发帖数: 11854 | 7 对第1个进球的描述：
In the blink of an eye, Iniesta intercepted the ball, and with maybe the
shortest of the 871 passes with which his team overwhelmed Arsenal during
its performance Wednesday, he slipped it to Messi. ... With a delicate
little flick of his left foot, Messi lifted the ball over the sprawling
keeper. With another touch, he volleyed it gracefully into the net.
直指森纳葡萄（酸）：
Arsenal would spoil the night with sour-grape excuses about the refereeing,
specifically about the Swiss official Massi... 阅读全帖 |
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s******n
发帖数: 2279 | 8 Learn the lesson
That Japan went from losing 9-0 and 7-0 to the United States in the weeks
before the 1999 Women’s World Cup to beating them in the final just 12
years later is a testament to what youth development can do. Proper youth
development.
Perhaps the biggest question for American soccer is whether this finally,
once and for all, unequivocally will get the sport’s powerbrokers in this
country to realize its system is horribly flawed.
Japan may have been inspired by the pioneering 1999 U... 阅读全帖 |
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 10 斯托伊科维奇 was the star of that game. He definitely outplayed Maradona in
that one game. His long passes (30 or 40 meters) was so accurate that
Argentina was really lucky to keep it 0:0 till 120 minutes. Also he drew 3
yellow cards from Argentina in that game more than Maradona even (2).
BTW, the first game against Germany was partly due to they hadn't peak in
the form yet I think.
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 11 Which player was kicked out of Barca because he outplayed Messi? |
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 12 Which player was kicked out of Barca because he outplayed Messi? |
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S*****e
发帖数: 6676 | 13 再见，布冯
一命二运三风水，看完这场欧冠决赛的感觉就是布冯没有拿欧冠的命啊。三炮二十分钟
左右皇马全场第一次射门就进了，卧槽，这是什么样的运气。曼珠一个神仙球扳平之后
大油门雄起了一阵，可惜到上半场结束也没能攻破皇马的大门。下半场上来之后大油门
不知道为啥就萎了，被皇马按住了来回抽插，终于被卡塞米罗一个石破天惊的远射搞进
。然后又是两分钟之后莫德里奇一次大脑抽筋似的抢断、突破、传中一条龙服务，把三
炮送上本届欧冠金靴宝座，这个球进了完全宣告比赛已经结束，大油门停止抵抗。后面
就完全是片尾花絮一样，没有什么看头。
到现在俺还是感觉我大油门输的TM莫名其妙，不知道为啥就输了，而且还输这么多，完
全出乎预料。总的感觉原因是囧叔被齐秃outplay了。上半场囧叔排出了3412，但是阿
二、三德罗、脸哥位置靠后，连曼珠都经常拉回后防线协助防守，防守属性太大。后来
三炮进了第一个球之后，我油压上进攻，形势才慢慢有点改观。MD下半场一开始皇马就
开始进攻，不知道收到齐秃的什么指点，上半场首发但基本消失的伊斯科突然满血复活
，就是从伊斯科这个点开始， 皇马在下半场基本控制了中场，造成了卡塞米罗那个神
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 14 "不自主有个小停顿"=delay, the only bad thing for butterfly on all level.
Butterfly is the fastest stroke if measured by instant speed, when kick
and pull overlap. Even freestyle can't not outplay. It is because of this
delay during catch that make butterfly fall behind freestyle a bit . |
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d****a
发帖数: 302 | 15 感觉nadal的底线相持能力是最强的，今天好像被outplay了 |
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h*********r
发帖数: 10182 | 16 stunned serena.
completely outplay her. |
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w********r
发帖数: 1397 | 19 Wozni totally outplays her today. |
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g*y
发帖数: 2354 | 20 彭帅今天大角度底线完全打神了，在裤子娃的强项上outplay她，大满贯冠军真是无话
可说！接下来一轮也比较好大，希望彭帅突破quarterfinal。 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 22 阿黑击球落点是不错，能调动李娜跑动，但现在李娜跑动击球真好 |
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b******t
发帖数: 446 | 23 刚才在youtube上回顾了小德和纳豆今年的几个finals. 都很精彩。从来没见过纳豆被
so outplayed so many times.小德是太猛了。希望明天的决战也成为一个名局。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 人手一个包子。
Buoyed by winning the longest-ever tie-break in a US Open title match, Andy
Murray became the first British man since 1936 to taste Grand Slam victory
after outplaying defending champion Novak Djokovic in an epic five-set US
Open final Monday.
Djokovic rallied from a two-set deficit and four falls to the court surface
to force a decider, but Olympic champion Murray, who like his coach Ivan
Lendl had suffered agonising defeats in his first four major finals, would
not be denied.
In a puls... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******e
发帖数: 8896 | 25 Chi baozi.
Thanks.
人手一个包子。
Buoyed by winning the longest-ever tie-break in a US Open title match, Andy
Murray became the first British man since 1936 to taste Grand Slam victory
after outplaying defending champion Novak Djokovic in an epic five-set US
Open final Monday.
Djokovic rallied from a two-set deficit and four falls to the court surface
to force a decider, but Olympic champion Murray, who like his coach Ivan
Lendl had suffered agonising defeats in his first four major finals, would
not... 阅读全帖 |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 26 第一盘看小德比对方就强在经验上，其他真没有outplay。
不过我估计小德后面会好些，他一贯慢热，第一盘艰苦拿下，后面可能会打得好些。 |
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 27 pusher不管学院扑还是野球扑，都得靠体力outplay对手，跟我说的的身体派基本重合。
暴力男可以学院派暴力，基本上是动作派。
暴力男里打野球，自己开发动作的那部分，基本上是邪派。这部分人在正常rally里不
可能暴力（否则就是学院暴力了），必须在正常球里加上零碎球，搞出机会，在机会球
里用他的shot。 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 28 说明很多时候是那豆打得太滥，只有大博罗那次是outplay那豆。。老实说不是不给赢
那豆的人credit, 但很多时候那豆在决赛前输的球都是打得很难看的。close match输
球的情况，很多都是那豆已经打进决赛了，例如温网输给老费，还有那年连续决赛输给
德子 |
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发帖数: 1 | 29 老费在采访中承认，应付不了我豆的上旋.
"Sometimes I was outplayed, sometimes I was close, but never quite good
enough to beat him at the French. But I never lost hope or faith that it
could happen."
"For me, he has been (the greatest rival)... Novak and I have obviously had
really big matches, but somehow the match-up with Rafa will always stay
unique because of the Wimbledon final in 2008," said the 17-time Grand Slam
champion. |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 31 This week's "poker after dark" is 200/400 NL cash game. The two titanic,
Phil Hellmuth and Allen Cunningham collided each other. Cunningham clearly
outplayed Hellmuth on the first day action. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 actually i love gutshot sometimes, it could be a huge winner if you hit.
depending on position and pot/bet sizes, i would chase it about 20% of time.
theoratically you only got 4 outs, but with position/table image, you can
have some extra imaginary "outs" too in your opponent's eyes. like you hold
QTo on a K95 rainbow flop, your opponent bets medium to represent a Kx hand.
since he doesn't raise pre-flop and he's with normal image, you can outplay
him when an A or 9 shows up on the turn with yo |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 well, it's hard to be very disciplined, many say you should stop after
losing 3 buy-ins for a session, or you should never risk 5% of your bankroll
at any time.
i guess it's more about the game itself: how is your table?
if you lose due to bad beats or donks, that's fine. you'll get some back or
win more if you know how to adjust (use your "tilt" as cover, and overbet
donks when way ahead, etc.).
but if you lose due to being outplayed by a few better players, you should
quit right away. the line |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 34 they do hate me, since I raise virtually every pot. Sometimes, I allin every hand.
if you can piss these $26 guys off, 95% of FTPers hate you, -----maybe I can outplay 50% of low buyin players.
maybe in high buyin games, I will get pissed off by those high buyin regulars. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 35 i used to be like this, and had a big tilt/discipline/getting bored problem.
but i found this kind of thinking helps a lot (from some pro) to calm me
down:
when you lose and then lose more (due to bad beats, outplayed, whatever),
you have to realize the money is GONE forever, there's simply no poker god
who would make it even for you or somebody else. it's GONE. there's no such
things called justice or fairness in poker. what you need to do is to
examine your play and win NEW money. at the end o |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 36 there got to be some reads going on for both of them, hard to say out of the
context, hehe.
the reason i posted this is actually about hand value. i like his preflop/
flop thinking: "if i raise and get repoped here, then i'll lose all the
value of such a relatively good hand (in HU of course)..." with his position
and good stack, he has a lot of room to outplay SB (not necessarily having
a hand as strong as QQ), shove bluffing on turn is one of them. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 before he admits he's outplayed, it's always going to be a "variance", lol. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 38 I do not like betting here at all with 3 people waiting to react. Actually i
would lay this hand down easily if any of the guy out of position calls the
button bets. Overall i do put button on bluff or not so strong hand after
he bets flop and check turn... guess he outplayed me and i misread him..
It is way ahead or way behind, then why bets so hard to lose the guy behind and only face the guy ahead when your big bet gets called. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 39 And I bought in for short-stack. Tried minimum buy-in for $80. Even in
normal situation I bought in for $120. The average stack for NL200 are $256.
LOL
But most of time I don't feel like I gonna outplayed. There are some good
players but a lot bad ones too. Plus I don't steal that much. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 40 我不是说4 buy-in 这个amount 很大， 我的bank roll 还是够的。。。 我是说这种
down swing对我来说很大，我的打法swing 是很小的。。其实这也是我打法里的
biggest strength and biggest weakness. 我这weakness 是靠我的读牌能力来弥补的
。pot size control 的strength 我就不多说了。。。
我一般不会用输赢来表示一个session 打得好还是不好。。 不过我上一贴说得都同时
发生你会感觉自己是不是被completely outplayed 和 outread 了.. 希望只是运气不
好。。。 lol |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 41 well, he did get a good read though, that guy didn't have AA/KK or even big
Ax, but bad timing and stack size, more or less like the saying "you're
right (read on the situation) but you're still wrong (bad action and
outplayed)". |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 42 昨晚看到有个著名牌手（Erick Lindgren还是谁）提到，现金局中偷盲不是那么重要，
preflop raise主要是build up pot（context是6max cash），我觉得有点道理。现金
局盲注不会涨，基本都是deep stack，偷盲应该不是game的主要部分。
rush里的偷盲相对容易一些，但也不像一开始那样容易了，好些人会对late position
raiser进行light 3bet。如果3x偷盲，3次成功2次多一点才break even。如果2x偷盲，
又容易leak，除非mix得很好或者基本采用2x raise。
你们喜欢2x raise么？我发现在NL 25里面这样做的基本分为三种牌：
1. EP: small pair or suited connector
2. LP: steal
3. Any position: monster
所以，2x被3bet后，range一般变窄很多，有leak之嫌。而且就偷盲目的来说，2x成功
率并不高。我还是更喜欢一律3x open raise。
还有人比较creative，有时会raise到2.4x，我一般会留... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 43 probably. we just need to outplay the regs more to make a profit~~
or hope one day they start legalize poker completely.. all the fish will come back in again~~ |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 44 I have done that a few times.
most of time i just tried to outplayed people. nowadays nobody believe c-
bet anymore. even double barrel is getting frequently called, So sometime
it come down to triple barrel.
i sometime get them to laydown a hand. but i got burned alot more. i
finally realized that ppl just dont lay down tptk that often unless stacks
are super deep.
on this board, the play is even more terrible. very dry. the only hand beat
tptk is set. and ak almost has to pay off |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 45 "My guess for low low stakes, is that I'd play something like 28/10. I would
want to play more hands because I can outplay people hardcore postflop. I
also would want to keep pot sizes small so I have more room to work with
once I can put them on a hand."
interesting.. lol |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 46 也不一定，看你们有多deep了。
hit trip或者2 pair的概率是4%。他多出6bb call你3 bet，如果hit two pairs，要是
能赢whole stack也不错。但是只寄希望这种情况发生还是不够justify pot odd。打的
loose的关键还是在于他有信心看flop后能outplay你。如果你没hit上high face card
，pot是 28j 怎么办。J9还是有可能hit上很多draw，或者mid甚至top pair。要我也
call 3 bet，除非确定对手很大概率QQ+。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 47 in a way, chris Ferguson is a much better player than isilder1.
isilder1 is just a telented poker player who has no idea of bank roll
management and tilt control . those player are nicle and dimes. A lot of
player put too much weight on how to outplay opponents and overlook the
important factor of these fundamental aspects.
chris Ferguson is really good at this. I still get over the factor that he
won one hand in this year's million dollar cash game and immediately walk
away, hit and run with... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 48 those people all has a symptoms called "I want to outplay you" or another
one called "I don't believe you have a hand so let me make a hero move ".
both are deadly disease in micro and low stake game.
can't figure out why is so hard to play abc poker , which is the most stable
money making strategy in those stakes.
I have the first disease for a while, occasionaly got thrilled with the
three barral bluff, until I lost a lot of money with it . a lot of time I
think the move is fancy without rea... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 49 Calling preflop is not that bad. We are getting good odds. More importantly
since most of live players suck very bad, we can outplay them post flop
even out of position. Squeeze is marginal, it depends on our image and
whether the 2 player in the pot are folders. if they don't fold enough, i
hate squeezing here.
I do not like the check raise flop. the board is semi-wet. There are a lot
of draw hands that would continue with this small raise and still beat your
8 high. You have to fire 3 barrel... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 50 过去这几天都在玩POKER，总共快3天了，说实话，玩到后面有点想吐的感觉。这几天什
么都经历了。 有最LUCKY的SESSION，有最TOUGH的CALL，也有最ridiculous的对手，真
是应有尽有。下面就来小总结一下吧：
The luckiest session ever for me: On Monday night, I played for 4 hours and
won over $1400 at the 1-3 NL game. I was so lucky and running like a God.
One player said:" she is too beautiful to beat." Although, I really think I
was too lucky to beat.
On Tuesday, after my big win from the previous night, I decided to play 2-5
NL for my first time. I bought in for $300, and I was doing ... 阅读全帖 |
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