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w********1
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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:30:33 PDT
According to New York Times technology columnist David Pogue, Apple still
believes in desktop Macs, including both the iMac and the Mac Pro.
The Mac Pro in particular has raised the ire of some Apple fans because it
has been several years since the last update, and the update today was
extremely minor.
Pogue writes:
Many Apple observers also wonder if Apple thinks that desktop computers are
dead, since not a word was said about the iMac and Mac Pro. An executive did... 阅读全帖
M********d
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http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/01/06/0249225/gorilla-arm
'Gorilla Arm' Will Keep Touch Screens From Taking Over:
Hugh Pickens writes "With Windows 8, Microsoft has made a billion-dollar
gamble that personal computing is taking a new direction and that new
direction is touch, says David Pogue. It's efficient on a touchscreen tablet
. But Microsoft expects us to run Windows 8 on our tens of millions of
everyday PCs. Although touch has been incredibly successful on our phones,
tablets, airpo... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 代代传承的歌手们
Ewan macColl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewan_MacColl
这个老共产主义份子唱了70年歌,从1930年唱到1989年,留下了无数的故事和歌。如果
只找一个代表作的话,土人俺先想到的是Dirty old town。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wj7xZf8xm8
I met my love by the gas works wall
Dreamed a dream by the old canal
Kissed my girl by the factory wall
Dirty old town
这首歌被无数人翻唱过,特别要提一下的是The Pogues翻唱的版本。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF9dHxbDa5w
提The Pogues的原因是The Pogues和Ewan macColl的女儿Kirsty macColl合作过一首叫
Fairy tale of New York的圣诞歌曲。这首歌1987年曾经在爱尔兰连续5周第一,UK排
行榜的第二,200... 阅读全帖
c***r
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这个乐队原来叫Pogue Mahone,是kiss my ass的意思,后来改成了the pogues,
kisses的意思。
the pogues后来有一首歌提到过Ass,是一首圣诞歌曲,里面有这么一句Happy
Christmas your arse,这首歌现在过节的时候还会在mall里面听到
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8
后来有人还给这首歌拍了个纪录片。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUSNzqqLFT0
c***r
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这个乐队一开始组建的事后并没有什么特别的地方,通常他们在俱乐部里面唱他们一个
叫Joe Strummer 的朋友的歌,后来有一次乐队的主唱自己抱着吉他唱了一首叫poor
paddy works on the railway的歌,乐队的人觉得这个感觉很好,从此这个乐队就开始
用punk音乐的风格翻唱民歌。下面就是这首poor paddy on the railway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-U9yL9xn9E
歌词大意是:
1841年,我套上我的条绒裤子
我套上我的条绒裤子啊
去铁路上上班
我去令人厌恶的铁路上上班啊
可怜的穷paddy去铁路上上班
我穿着条绒裤子啊
挖沟拉线躲沥青
在铁路上上班
……
不知道爬楼的人注意到没有,这个乐队人很多,土人俺以前混乐队的时候都是按小时拿
钱,然后大伙分,如果乐队人多了……钱就不够分的了……不知道这个乐队怎么分钱的。
不过不急,还有人更多的,the pogues和爱尔兰的民歌乐队the dubliner曾经合作,十
好几号人一起上台,那是满满一台子的人啊!人多了热闹,人多了热闹。
https://www.... 阅读全帖
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 手机乱拍
微单Sony NEX系列好像不错:
David Pogue对于这个系列的评价:
this (NEX-6) is an extremely rewarding camera that occupies an impressive
spot on the size/quality spectrum. Over time, you develop a trust of a
camera like this, an emotional bond: “I’m having an experience I want to
remember, and I know you’re not going to let me down.” Sony is most
definitely on the right track.
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/13/s-l-r-advantages-at-h
c***r
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不知道大伙有没有遇到过这样的事情,在电视里听到一首歌,立刻就觉得这歌就是属于
自己的那首歌,就跟遇到属于自己的那个人有点儿类似。土人俺就遇到了那样的事情,
发生在10年的冬天,那是土人俺人生中最低落的一个冬天。说来奇怪,本来应该在05年
就死掉的人,却在活过来之后的的第五年低落起来,应该觉得每一天都是白赚的,都应
该欢庆才对。反正当时因为一些小事郁闷着,突然在电视里听到这么一首歌。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FedJKZuqFfg
当时就被这首歌迷住了,四处找这首歌是谁唱的,结果发现是一个叫the pogues的乐队
。pogues是盖尔语,翻译成英文的话是kisses的意思,多浪漫!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4v6aNjGFFk
If I should fall from grace with god
Where no doctor can relieve me
If I'm buried 'neath the sod
But the angels won't receive me
Let me go, b... 阅读全帖
y*****s
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pogues原名pogue mahone,是kiss my ass的意思
c***r
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不知道大伙有没有遇到过这样的事情,在电视里听到一首歌,立刻就觉得这歌就是属于
自己的那首歌,就跟遇到属于自己的那个人有点儿类似。土人俺就遇到了那样的事情,
发生在10年的冬天,那是土人俺人生中最低落的一个冬天。说来奇怪,本来应该在05年
就死掉的人,却在活过来之后的的第五年低落起来,应该觉得每一天都是白赚的,都应
该欢庆才对。反正当时因为一些小事郁闷着,突然在电视里听到这么一首歌。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FedJKZuqFfg
当时就被这首歌迷住了,四处找这首歌是谁唱的,结果发现是一个叫the pogues的乐队
。pogues是盖尔语,翻译成英文的话是kisses的意思,多浪漫!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4v6aNjGFFk
If I should fall from grace with god
Where no doctor can relieve me
If I'm buried 'neath the sod
But the angels won't receive me
Let me go, b... 阅读全帖
y*****s
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pogues原名pogue mahone,是kiss my ass的意思
k***y
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Mac OSX THE MISSING MANUAL
BY DAVID POGUE
POGUE PRESS O'REILLY
My boss bought it for $25 and I found it pretty good.
os
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来自主题: Apple版 - iPhone常见问题完整版
iPhone常见问题完整版
赵珂, cn.zhaoke.com
http://blog.zhaoke.com/58.html
2006年1月16日
Apple iPhone的更多信息已经浮出水面: 显然ARM处理器由三星生产, 应用程序完全由
第三方厂商开发, 而且开发厂商将与Apple达成某些协议(可能是iTunes网站专门负责
iPhone应用程序的发布). 某些新闻报道iPhone实际使用的是修改过的Darwin系统和少
数几个OS X应用程序. (Slashdot的错误报道). 而Desktop OS X应用程序不能运行在
iPhone上(见常见问题6). 下面是<<纽约时报>>的专栏作者David Pogue先生写的iPhone
常见问题列表:
格式
.问题 - 回答.
作者: <<纽约时报>>的专栏作者David Pogue先生
常见问题列表: 第一部分
1. 它可以使用Cingular之外的移动运营商吗? - 不可以.
2. 它是”解锁”版的吗? 这样我可以使用Cingular之外的移动运营商? - 不是.
3. 它什么时候可以使用Cingular之外的运营商? - 一两
b*s
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来自主题: Apple版 - Help: tutorial for macbook pro
Check David Pogue's missing manual book. Search on Amazon.com for David
Pogue Snow Leopard the missing manual.

tricks
w********1
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Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:08:19 PDT
Yesterday, David Pogue of The New York Times vaguely stated in reference to
Apple's desktop Mac lines that an unnamed Apple executive had informed him
that "new models and new designs are under way, probably for release in 2013
." That information was taken to include both Mac Pro and iMac models, but
was not explicitly clear.
Soon after we posted the article, we received a report from a reader who had
emailed Apple CEO Tim Cook about his disappointment in the lack... 阅读全帖
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亚马逊Kindle三叉戟:Fire有缺陷存具大破坏力
http://www.sina.com.cn 2011年11月15日 00:10 新浪财经微博
导读:《纽约时报》科技专栏作家波格(DAVID POGUE)对亚马逊最新推出的,包括
万众瞩目的Kindle Fire在内的三款新阅读器产品进行了评估,并作出了相应的评价:
Fire还有缺陷,但已经具有巨大的破坏力,另外两款则是纯粹电子书籍阅读的理想选择。
以下即波格的评论文章全文:
如果你原本就觉得现在科技进步有点“超速”,那么最好不要进入电子书籍阅读器
的市场,那只能让你反应更加剧烈。
突然之间,电子书籍公司成群涌入市场,各种新机型纷至沓来,顿时重要销售季节
到来的味道扑面而来。
至于所有电子书籍阅读器当中最抢眼的,毫无疑问得属亚马逊(微博)新的触屏彩色
产品Kindle Fire。实际上,这一平板产品最引人注目的还不是其本身,而是其价格,
只有200美元。在大多数平板产品都要500美元的现在,200美元的产品确实是太划算了。
亚马逊这次总共推出了三个Kindle新机型。另外两个价格较低的机型显然不会像
Fire那样万众瞩目,但是... 阅读全帖
I******a
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http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
Visit the original once in a while. Apparently, it's chock full o' updates.
Slur Represents Reasons/Origins
51st Stater Canadians Self-explanatory.
Abba-Dabba Arabs Used in the movie "Betrayed" by rural American hate group.
Abo Australian Aboriginal Derogative shortened term for Aboriginal.
Adolf Germans Hitler, of course. Generally thought of the worst person ever.
Ahab Whites From Moby-Dick. Ahab hunted the white whale.
Ainu Japanese Aboriginal Originall... 阅读全帖
l****p
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来自主题: Military版 - 你们有4k电视吗?
这个文章说,4K与否没有关系,因为人眼分辨不出。屏幕越大,一般就要观看距离越远
,远了对于正常眼睛来说,太清晰了其实反正也不能分辨。
但我还是觉得4k好啊。
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pogue-why-hi-res-isnt-always-
better/
q**j
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June 14, 2007
State of the Art
Headphones to Shut Out the World
By DAVID POGUE
As you may have heard, air travel this summer isn’t going to be pretty.
You’ll be crammed in, delayed and bumped — if you’re lucky. If you’re
unlucky, your flight will just be canceled.
Fortunately, not all of this misery is out of your control. Take, for
example, the noise-canceling headphones that Bose began making popular a few
years ago.
Until you try them, you won’t believe what a difference such headphones can
m
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来自主题: Living版 - plasma还是lcd好?
还有LG呀
看到这篇文章,看来还是我说的对
Despite plasma’s superior picture quality and lower large screen pricing, m
any tech writers like New York Times columnist David Pogue who recently wrot
e that plasma is “on the way out,” consider it a dying technology. Are th
ey correct? Or are they in need of a fact transfusion? To get the answer, t
he HD Guru? asked for input from executives of the three plasma panel makers
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来自主题: Living版 - 谁对LED灯泡有研究?
看篇好文
March 21, 2013, 3:15 pm 285 Comments
Addressing Fears About LED Light Bulbs
In my Times column Thursday, I reviewed a new generation of LED light bulbs.
They last 25 times as long as regular bulbs, use maybe one-eighth the
electricity, work with dimmers, turn on instantly to full brightness and
remain cool to the touch. A big drawback has always been cost, but now, I
noted, the prices have fallen.
This column generated a lot of reader e-mail, probably because LED
represents change. And chan... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: shopping版 - Robot Toys
(1) David Pogue, Invitation to Play, And Sweat. New York Times, Nov. 4, 2010
(title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/technology/personaltech/04pogue.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=microsoft%20wii&st=cse
Quote:
"It has four microphones and three little lenses: a video camera, an
infrared projector and a distance sensor. Together, these lenses determine
where you are in the room. And not just you. The system tracks 48 parts of
your body in three-dimensional space. It doesn’t just know where yo... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: shopping版 - Robot Toys
(1) David Pogue, Invitation to Play, And Sweat. New York Times, Nov. 4, 2010
(title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/technology/personaltech/04pogue.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=microsoft%20wii&st=cse
Quote:
"It has four microphones and three little lenses: a video camera, an
infrared projector and a distance sensor. Together, these lenses determine
where you are in the room. And not just you. The system tracks 48 parts of
your body in three-dimensional space. It doesn’t just know where yo... 阅读全帖
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http://finance.sina.com.cn/world/20131218/010617664540.shtml
导读:MarketWatch专栏作家普莱蒂(Therese Poletti)撰文,指出雅虎(39.26, -0.25,
-0.65%)的邮箱宕机事件并没有引发投资者的广泛担忧,这固然有他们业务重点转换的
原因,但更重要的,还是雅虎股价短期之内只能取决于阿里巴巴IPO的前景。
以下即普莱蒂的评论文章全文:
尽管雅虎广受欢迎的邮件服务上周遭受了长期宕机的折磨,但是投资者似乎对这一
大事故并不觉得怎样,那一周当中,雅虎最终还是收高了1.6%。
不过,雅虎的形象确实受到了严重的损害,在推特上面,各种负面言论成千上万,
表达了用户的愤怒。这是雅虎的核心产品,出现了如此重大的问题,何以投资者竟然会
行若无事?答案是,大家在为雅虎(YHOO)股票定价时,考虑的最主要因素其实不是雅虎
本身,而是即将到来的阿里巴巴[微博]IPO。雅虎拥有中国电子商务巨头大约24%的股份
,他们已经同意在IPO时出手自己持股的40%。
“我们必须理解的最关键一点是,雅虎的股价是受阿里巴巴驱动的,而不是... 阅读全帖
m****e
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预测IT公司的发展还是很难的。。。
【 以下文字转载自 ScitechNews 讨论区 】
发信人: Cnews (chinanews), 信区: ScitechNews
标 题: [KJPT]博客评值得关注的10家IT公司:Foursquare居首
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 8 22:27:41 2010, 美东)
编者按:美国科技博客Silicon Alley Insider周四刊文称,AOL、雅虎、MySpace和
eBay等互联网巨头已陷入困境......
北京时间7月9日消息,有业内人士据此认为,互联网行业正处于滑坡之中。然而实际上
,仍有多家互联网和科技公司的前景值得看好。Silicon Alley Insider列出了以下10
家公司:
1.Foursquare
知名科技记者大卫·波古(David Pogue)已经将Foursquare列入应当了解的社交网络工
具名单中。Foursquare已有200万用户,而增长仍然很快。饭店和酒吧目前可以 免费为
“签到”的Foursquare用户提供优惠券。如果Foursquare开始对此收费,那么将很容易... 阅读全帖
Q*K
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来自主题: Seattle版 - Windows Phone 7 launch-day roundup
You no longer have to rely on the likes of me to decide if Microsoft's
Windows Phone 7 is any good--you can buy a WP7 device yourself and make up
your own mind.
att_focus_htc_surround.jpg
But is anybody doing that? It's hard to say. The usual anecdotal indications
of consumer interest--Google search traffic and Twitter's list of trending
topics, for instance--don't show this overdue replacement for Microsoft's
failed Windows Mobile platform burning up the wires. More people appear to
be interest... 阅读全帖
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看看David Pogue的评论不就成了……
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 刘瑜:积极的人 zt
DP是谁?David Pogue?

前女
m*****n
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
观众里藏着David Pogue那皮笑肉不笑的小脸
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
看过David Pogue的TED演讲么?
b*s
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不算特别多吧,不过到了 David Pogue那个水平就另说了。
b*s
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l*y
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 33 1/3音乐书籍系列
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33%E2%85%93
就是一张经典专辑一本小册子来详述
目前已经出版的(可以作为一个经典专辑的list)
Volume | Album Title | Artist | Year of Release | 33 1/3 author
1 Dusty in Memphis- Dusty Springfield 1969 Warren Zanes
2 Forever Changes -Love 1967 Andrew Hultkrans
3 Harvest -Neil Young 1972 Sam Inglis
4 The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society -The Kinks 1968 Andy
Miller
5 Meat Is Murder- The Smiths 1985 Joe Pernice
6 The Piper at the Gates of Dawn- Pink Floyd 1967 John Cavanagh
7 ABBA Gold: Greates... 阅读全帖
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3pGc8hZ8Gk
the pogues是一个唱民歌的朋克乐队,例如上面这首歌,dirty old town,本来是49年
一个剧换场景时候的歌,后来成了英国民歌,再后来成了爱尔兰民歌……
很喜欢这个歌的歌词,尝试花十分钟翻译一下
I met my love by the gas works wall
Dreamed a dream by the old canal
Kissed a girl by the factory wall
Dirty old town
Dirty old town
Clouds a drifting across the moon
Cats a prowling on their beat
Spring's a girl in the street at night
Dirty old town
Dirty old town
Heard a siren from the docks
Saw a train se... 阅读全帖
l*y
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New Musical Express Writers Top 100 Albums.
Published 2nd October 1993
Pet Sounds
1. Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys (Capitol, 1966)
2. Revolver - The Beatles (Parlophone, 1966)
3. Never Mind The Bollocks - The Sex Pistols (Virgin, 1977)
4. What's Going On Marvin Gaye ( Tamla Motown, 1971)
5. The Stone Roses The Stone Roses (Silvertone, 1989)
6. The Velvet Underground & Nico The Velvet Underground ( Verve, 1967)
7. London Calling The Clash (Cbs, 1979)
8. The Beatles The Beatles (Apple, 1968)
9. It T... 阅读全帖
l*y
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来自主题: Rock版 - 33 1/3音乐书籍系列
【 以下文字转载自 LeisureTime 讨论区 】
发信人: ldy (大才001), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 33 1/3音乐书籍系列
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 27 01:47:05 2014, 美东)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33%E2%85%93
就是一张经典专辑一本小册子来详述
目前已经出版的(可以作为一个经典专辑的list)
Volume | Album Title | Artist | Year of Release | 33 1/3 author
1 Dusty in Memphis- Dusty Springfield 1969 Warren Zanes
2 Forever Changes -Love 1967 Andrew Hultkrans
3 Harvest -Neil Young 1972 Sam Inglis
4 The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society -The Kinks 1968 Andy
Miller
5 M... 阅读全帖
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J*********8
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - The Pogues - Dirty Old Town
口琴好听
K****N
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - Nobody's Baby Now
The Pogues - A Pair Of Brown Eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rdwGpv-ZnQ
b*s
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来自主题: Apple版 - A good Macintosh reference book
David Pogue's _Mac Secrets_ version 5 is a very good starting point.
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来自主题: Apple版 - iPad hands on: why it makes sense
我觉得写得还算客观
比如比起David Pogue
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what?
Mac Pro今天不是升级了么

are
did
probably
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来自主题: Apple版 - Roundup of Retina MacBook Pro Reviews
Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:54:26 PDT
With a number of media outlets having received Retina MacBook Pro review
units on Monday after the Worldwide Developers Conference keynote and a few
early hands-on reports having been published, more extensive reviews are now
beginning to appear. To help summarize the overall response to the new
machine, we've put together this roundup of some of the major reviews, along
with some highlights from each of them.
The New York Times – David Pogue
Superfast. Superthin. ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Apple版 - 中文新闻转贴专贴
2012-07-22 13:16:55[北京时间]
此前我们曾报道过,“苹果神秘设备”现在圣诞礼物清单中,很多人猜测这部设备
就是iPad mini,所以就有人预测iPad mini将会成为“今年儿童的玩具”。
这样的预测,可能会有人要出来反驳了。因为大家认为iPad是技术爱好者的高端奢
侈品,而不是儿童的“玩具”。事实证明,iPad是两者的结合体:它成为了喜欢购买高
端奢侈品的技术爱好者送给孩子们“玩具”的一大选择。
据《华尔街日报》的消息报道,在美国一半以上的儿童都使用过iPad、 iPhone或
者其他的触摸屏设备。
实际上,面向儿童的iPad产品的吸引力是最大问题。进入苹果商店或者去百思买的
苹果区查看一下,你会看到很少有儿童会被这些设备吸引住。
苹果明确鼓励开设面向儿童的产品,在苹果商店中,他们往往会有一张适合儿童的
展示桌,在桌上有一些与桌子锁在一起的iPad产品。我们称这种方法为麦当劳式销售方
法,让孩子从很小很小的时候就知道你的产品与乐趣是一体的,今后这群孩子将会成为
这个品牌终身的忠实拥护者。
《纽约时报》的科技专栏作家David Pogue说,他很担心自己6岁大的儿... 阅读全帖
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Link:
http://appshopper.com/music/ocarina
Ocarina
"Smule's addictive Ocarina turns the iPhone into the ancient flute-like
instrument" - Ed Baig, USA Today
"Ocarina is one of the most magical programs I've ever seen" - David Pogue,
NY Times
"The official instrument of Zelda comes to the iPhone" Roberto Baldwin,
MacLife
____________________ _______
Sensitive to your breath, touch and movements, Ocarina is more versatile
than an actual flute:
Blow air into your mic to create music
Touch combinati... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: _BibleStudy版 - 基督徒生活的秘訣 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 AmazingGrace 俱乐部 】
发信人: winnie91107 (爱的承诺), 信区: AmazingGrace
标 题: 基督徒生活的秘訣
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 10 19:16:31 2013, 美东)
文:Steven L. Pogue
你是否曾疑惑,為什麼許多基督徒活不出像耶穌的生命?或是,你覺得要活出那樣的生
命是不可能的?讓我告訴你:的確不可能——如果我們是在靠自己的努力。因為靠著個
人的努力,就像是緣木求魚一樣困難。除非學習倚靠神,否則我們無法享受基督徒的生
命。使徒保羅也說過:「我靠著那加給我能力的,凡事都能作。」[1]
基督徒要活出表裡一致的生命,秘訣就在於讓基督透過我們活出他自己。正如保羅所說
:「我已經跟基督一同被釘在十字架上,這樣,現在活著的不再是我自己,而是基督在
我生命裡活著。我現在活著,是藉著信上帝的兒子而活;他愛我,為我捨命。」[2]
耶穌在被賣前一個晚上,預先告訴他的門徒自己將離開他們,但是他們並不孤單。「我
要把實情告訴你們,我去是對你們有益的。如果我不去,保惠師就不會到你們這裡來;
我若去了,... 阅读全帖
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