K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 PT167A is pro stock Flexpoint Radical MP. Its historical status is no
where near PT57A. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 3 Head will *NEVER* sell PT57A as retail rackets. That's insane.
PT57A is the most widely used pro rackets by Head.
Soderling
Murray
Simon
Gulbis
You name it. Selling PT57A would be a suicide to Head's racket
business, as nobody would be interested in buying other retail
craps any more.
BTW: You noticed I didn't list Joker as one pro using PT57A. I
actually am not sure about that. I tend to believe he is using
a custom material racket with the Head LM/MG Radical MP mold.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 4 You still don't get it.
PT57A will be VERY profitable.
All other stuffs, including good rackets like Prestige and Radical,
will have horrible sales. This is true even after 1-2 years when
Head tries to promote new generations of Prestige/Speed/Radical, etc.
What should Head do with the new generation Speed, if the current
generation is the same as PT57A? Any variation will make it worse.
PT57A has been there for more than 10 years. Pros still stick to it.
You can probably figure out why I catego... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 5 PT57A is one unique racket. It's not a line of rackets, like Radical,
Prestige, etc.
Any new material, new specs, new shape will make it not PT57A any
more.
It's the same as Wilson Prostaff Original 6.0 85. You can't just
make new generations every two years.
All in all, the legendary rackets have to be discontinued for
the health of racket sale business. Paint jobs are the way to go
and it has been tested working well by the biggest racket brands.
PT57A are now produced at very limited numbers ... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 Ok, got some more time now.
Berdych does not use PT57A. He uses 16x19 Radical.
Soderling does not use PT57A. He uses PT630.
Wawrinka does not use PT57A. His racket is a unique Prestige
(something very close to MG Prestige Pro but not PT57E). It is
also 16x19.
I think you've got my point and there is no need to go on. |
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o******r
发帖数: 346 | 7 还是说不通。Selling PT57A会影响到business? 难道PT57A的利润比别的低？
还有，不通level的recreation players 不一定都买PT57。 |
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o******r
发帖数: 346 | 8 再展开说说吧
1， 对于青少年，女子，head的新用户，只要打算买head, 对head的business 没影响。
2， 对于head的老追随者，三两把PT57A不会就能打一辈子吧，就不更新也不旧换新？
3， PT57A也可以没两年出新材料新产品吧。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 9 PT57A's have different specifications. The barebone racket is very
light (around 11 oz) to leave room for customizations by different
pros.
You'll need to measure your own to know the exact specs.
PT57A uses the same mold as PT630. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 PT57A和PT630形状不同。
Murray的拍子肯定不是PT630. 你可以说是定制PT57A，但是实际上和retail
Prestige Pro差别非常小。 |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 11 FT, 当初好像你也在忽悠来着，我现在也改成b90了，下定决心，坚决不买pt57a或者
那个whatever limited，呵呵
PT57A |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 12 话说最近给俩高手当陪练，明显觉得球重，加上天气热球蹦以及自己改动作，总觉得吐
血拍有点handle不了，挥轻了拍子被撞歪，挥重了球飞出界。回去把老拍子都翻出来试
一遍，发现还是b90和pt57a+经得起考验。b90就不说了，全能，唯一的问题就是拍面太
小，太容易miss hit。这时pt57a+的真pro拍本色得以充分显示。真的是坚如磐石啊，
再重的球handle起来都轻松写意，超级稳定。唯一的弱点就是加长重拍，网前反应稍微
有点慢。不过我觉得多打打应该会更适应一些。 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 13 昨天试打了哥们的Head PT57A,就是prestige的pro版，他买的某pro用过的。确实比咱
店里买的好打很多。咱的拍子的有点它都有，另外还觉得更加solid，落点控制更加精
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 14 Murray uses PT57A. The closest racket to that was MicroGel Prestige Pro.
He did use i.Radical before that.
PJ. |
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p********3
发帖数: 853 | 15 Well, I know a lot people saying now Murray uses PT57A, but just from
outside and the number, no one can really tell if it is made of intellgence
or MircoGel. The shape looks very similar,but I do believe that from Murray'
s personality, it will be difficult for him to change what he feels right,,,, |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 16 Radical and Prestige have different shapes. Murray was using i.Radical
first, then at a point he was using an i.Radical painted as a Prestige.
Then in either 2007 or 2008, he indeed switched to a Prestige line racket,
painted as MicroGel Radical Pro. Whether it's indeed PT57A or MG Prestige
Pro doesn't matter, since they are very close.
intellgence
Murray'
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 用PT57A的拍子，上i.Radical的paint job.
这都是3个generation以前的款式了。。。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 18 Joker using PT57A is just a popular but not dominant theory among
TT users. Less than 50% people believe that.
Nobody knows for sure what his actual racket is. Only one thing
for sure: nobody thinks it's Head Speed. |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 19 PT57A才是真正的神拍啊！确实好打，就是稍微有点软 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 20 PT57A liquid metal。果然好打，立刻把pure storm tour比下去了。现在偶有3把神拍
：b90，这把，和apdc。风格不同，但都是神拍。以偶现在的水平和打法，这把最合适 |
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发帖数: 3362 | 21
帮你顶一下,给我科普一下吧
PT57A liquid metal
b90
apdc
都是什么呀 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 B90 is Wilson BLX 6.1 Tour 90.
APDC is Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex
PT57A is a Head pro stock, not available at retailers. The closest you can
get is Prestige MP. |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 23 b90：ff的神拍，wilson blx six-one tour
apdc:豆子的神拍，babolat aeropro drive cortex.
PT57A:head 的pro拍，非零售版，都是给pro定做的，现役的很多atp pro实际用的拍子
。老肯可以再补充一些，偶知道的也就这些。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 Does it look like this one?
Most PT57A's are standard 27". |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 25 昨晚看罗马，先后放了warinka， 索德林，BERDYCH, 用的拍子都越看越像偶的神拍。
顿时觉得自己水平涨了0.5...
From TT：
Players lited below use or have used some "form" of the 630 in the last 18
mos.
Guga
Mathiue (used it)
Turnsunov (debatable what he uses, but he used it)
Cillic
Clement
Chardy
Marcos Daniel
Soderling
Gilles Simon
Brendan Evans
Donald Young
Warinka (debatable)
Gulbis
Bolleli
Hanescu
JR Lisnard
Melzer
Giquel
Gremmelmyer
Berlocq
Roitman
Eysseric
Devilder (just switched from it)
Jean-Pierrre
Gary Lugassy
Kevin Anderson
Dlouhy
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 Too many errors. Just mention 1:
16x19 is not called PT57A. It's PT57E. |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 27 你给科普一下PT57A，PT630和PT57E还有TGK系列都有啥区别啊？偶也不大明白 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 28 一大堆卖拍子的而已，实在找不准确答案。OK，根据在这里和tt上东拼西凑出来的信息
，应该是这样：
PT630是奥地利工厂的一种mold，用它可以做出either PT57A或者PT57E，这两者只是
string pattern不一样。TKG系列是后来在中国工厂做的pro stock系列。对否？老肯？ |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 29 YT Radical MP is a completely different racket from what
Joker is using. The difference should be significantly
larger than from PT57A or customized retail LM/MG Radical MP. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 30 If you CAP a regular LM radical MP, and lead it up to be the same
specs as your PT57A, it will also "比零售版好打无数倍." |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 32 LM Radical MP硬度是多少啊？跟pt57a比比怎么样？ |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 33 64, significantly higher than PT57A, which is probably 59?
However, LM Radical has a very unique muted feel. You feel the
vibration is absorbed. It is one of my most elbow-friendly rackets.
Ti Classic, when compared side-by-side, is much more crisp.
It's like comparing Honda's steering wheel with Toyota's. |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 34 偶现在包里揣3把拍子，b90，pt57a，pst gt。偶ld有一把Wilson tour limited和apdc
。所以偶有切身感受。head的零售版拍子都不行，但是其有几款经典pro拍非常好。零
售版，还是wilson好 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 36 菲菲用的到底是什么90你知道？pro stock根本不能用零售版的标准来划代。首先拍子
本身设计就不一样（可能很接近），其次拍子的材料根本和零售版的哪一代都不一样，
比如软硬度就完全不同。
至于偶鼓吹blx90，那是个人喜好。比如是否震手，有人喜欢震动小点，有人喜欢震动
大点。最好把两把都弄来，上同样的线，自己试试去。不过k90现在好便宜。。。
再说，偶现在不饭90了，偶转投pt57a了。偶手里还有两把b90，准备留一把，卖一把。
谁要跟偶说一声。 |
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 37 多大grip的? 俺在考虑搞把备用拍了. 下次有机会试试你的pt57a,
看看到底神在哪 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 38 非常罕见的1/8。。。你得加3层overgrip
pt57a好在及其均衡稳定。没有那个单项性能特别突出，但是每个单项都相当不错。组
合在一起，就是信心保证。 |
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l****3
发帖数: 110 | 39 刚出一MM那里搞到一把PT167A，好重的拍子，和一壮得像头牛4.5的黑哥轮了一下午，
胳膊却没有一点不舒服反而有种轻松的感觉，挺神的。器械派大师给讲讲这PT167A是个
啥东东，底线发球和网前都非常的好，就是灵活性太差，有些犹豫啊..... |
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l****3
发帖数: 110 | 41 据说JOKER现在用的真正的拍子就是PT167A。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 42 That's absolutely FALSE.
Don't believe every single post on Talk Tennis. A hundred people
have a hundred theories. Only certain ID's words can be trusted. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 43 话说我刚刚从地摊上淘换了一个PT250A
用着实在是太爽了，昨天3。5，今天5。0啊
而且打完了腰不酸了腿也不疼了。。。
哈哈
午，
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 44 What is that? @_@
Can't seem to google it out. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 45 卖给我那个黑哥们说费德勒其实一直用得是PT250A，还有nadal其实用得是PT250C
joker和murray用得其实都是PT250B，哈哈
这才是真正得神拍啊 |
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l****3
发帖数: 110 | 50 我看这把250A，挺适合你的，好好享用吧。
比大麻还爽！！ |
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