U*******1 发帖数: 1565 | 1 Punt Bama Punt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_Bama_Punt
1972
The No. 2 ranked and undefeated (10–0) Alabama team with 14-point favorite
over Auburn Tiger (8–1).
Alabama led 16–0 with ten minutes left.
With less than 10 minutes remaining, an Auburn drive stalled and managed
only a field goal, which made the score 16–3. Jordan later joked that his
decision was derided by all the faithful in attendance: Auburn fans booed
for the appearance of giving up, while Alabama fans joined in because the
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P*****t 发帖数: 4978 | 2 Has Kirk Ferentz been scarred by fake punts?
Michigan State executed a fake for a 25-yard gain against Iowa on Saturday,
the second time the Hawkeyes have fallen for a fake this season and the
sixth time since 2010. After the game, the Iowa coach said that he was
considering never setting up a punt return again.
And he was actually serious.
“If you pressed me today, I’d say we may never try to return a punt again,
” Ferentz said during his weekly press conference Tuesday. “To do that, to
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d****u 发帖数: 31 | 3
After any non-punting team player touches the ball, the ball becomes a
free one. Then if the player of punting team gets the ball, they become
the offense side again!
If a player of punting team touches the ball before any player of
non-punting team does, the non-punting team will start from there!! |
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t******3 发帖数: 4053 | 4 1. 选择踢肥狗,踢球距离为53-63 yards,确实把握不大;
2. 选择go for it, 尤其是短码数,了不起被对方stop就地进攻,也就是从对方的35-
45 yard开始,如果punt对方回攻跑码也常常到这个区域;
3. 选择punt,丧失一搏的机会,而且就算punt for touchback, 对方从20码处开始进
攻,也没多大差别。punt到对方10码线以内的机会很小。
如果我当教练,35-45码这个区域,80%的可能性选择go for it,而不是以let defense
play为理由选择punt. |
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w******e 发帖数: 1621 | 5 4档的时候可以飞狗也可以punt, punt进了算不算?punt和飞狗规则上有啥不同?
punt可能fake,fake了接球就可以继续往前跑yard. 那我要是说punt是我要fake, 只不
过不小心球传到自己大脚上飞出去了,接了球继续跑yard.这样规则是咋说了 |
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w*****y 发帖数: 3900 | 6 视频在这里,play从24:45开始,另外,28:00还有回放和详细讲解
这是第一节,野猪在50码线附近4th and 6,孙红雷果断叫了一个fake punt,顺便提一
下,在这之前一个drive,野猪punter Irwin-Hill从本方23码轰出一记77码的punt,这
还没算上他到LOS的10码,有兴趣的人可以瞻仰一下,在12:20左右,据ESPN报道,Irwin
-Hill两只脚都能踢球,是个左右开弓的牛人
说回到这个fake punt,在audible后,野猪摆出了这样的一个阵形
没人注意到的是,野猪的long snapper D'Appollonio这场穿的不是他平时的53号球衣
,而是换上了82号,列在7人LOS的最右侧,在NCAA规则下,他就成为了一个eligible
receiver
开球后,野猪punter持球向右侧移动,假作rugby style punt,下图中右上方40码线附
近的白衣球员即是punter Irwin-Hill
此时,在球场左侧(图中右下方),一名野猪球员跳起挥动手臂作要球状,在他身前还
有另外四人为他block,这是野猪设计的decoy,... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******r 发帖数: 11017 | 7 昨天是MEYER第8次在UF的执教生涯使出FAKE PUNT,成为赢下比赛的胜负手,目前为止8
次全中。不愧是特勤队牛人。
回顾一下这8次假踢和当时情形。我死活只能记起7次,还有一次望高手补充。
1.2005年客场对BAMA
那场比赛是MEYER在UF输的最惨的一次,3:30败给Mike Shula的红象。当时是MEYER第
一年在UF打他的SPREAD OPTION,不设FB和TE保护,前四场意气风发,4-0,全国排名第
五。结果去了BAMA就被如狼似虎的BAMA LB/DE一次次SACK,陷入苦战。MEYER及时抖出
FAKE PUNT,三个Block backs的SPREAD PUNT阵型,PUNTER接球后假装助跑踢RUGBY式
PUNT,最右边的block back(是我们的替补LB)假装倒退block却快速接近PUNTER,转身
接球后反向狂奔10码,FAKE成功。这次FAKE虽然一时扭转场上气势,但QB缺少保护问题
依旧存在,CHRIS LEAK狼狈不堪,第三节下半段就用替补QB上来打发垃圾时间了。
2.2005年对UGA
那场比赛是MEYER对BAMA、LSU两场败仗后 |
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d****u 发帖数: 31 | 8
kick the ball when it's in the air.
If the ball touchs any non-punting player, the punting team can
try to recover the ball. If the ball goes out of side line,
the non-punting team should start from where it goes out of side line.
If the ball goes out of bottom-line(end zone line), 20 yard. |
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m**e 发帖数: 79 | 9
The reason is that if the punter can punt the ball to end zone, he also can
punt it to around 10-yard line, then his teammate touches the ball before it
goes to end zone. It is better than puntting it to end zone. |
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发帖数: 1 | 10 12 men on punt return 和这个negative punt直接导致了10分。
特工教头Bruce Read应该要被炒鱿鱼 |
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B*****e 发帖数: 9375 | 11 怎么经常有人问这类问题啊,
甚么kick off进去了, punt进去了, 甚至QB传球扔进去了,
是不是也能得3分。
要得3分, 只能用两种踢法: place kick, or drop kick;
而能用这两种踢得分的前提也只能是两种:
正儿八经的进攻, 有LOS, 有中锋开球, 有holder那种, 就是大家最常见的;
OR
fair catch a punt之后, 可以在接住球的地方踢一个,
而且这种情况下对方不能设防。 |
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Y******e 发帖数: 20256 | 12 punt也有option play. Mesko以前在我密就试过,一个成功convert,另一个失败。都
是punter根据场上对方布阵决定是punt,还是跑。不过NE这个play可能和Mesko无关,
毕竟他是rookie,要call play也轮不到他。是chung一点不奇怪。 |
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b*****u 发帖数: 1978 | 13 现在练练脚,以后遇到 4th and Punt,
让阿汤站 punter 位置,能传就传,不能就 punt |
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 14 相反,是让punt 和 field goal 更难,从而限制punt/FG 在比赛中的作用。 |
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l*****8 发帖数: 16949 | 15 嗯,第一个损失3分,第二个和punt差不多(punt还不一定在10码以内)。 |
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f**********n 发帖数: 10757 | 16 punt 近一点,反而不容易 TD啊,Jones去年季后赛就死在他手上,刚才一个 Punt 就
没接到,可惜SF gunner没跟上,那个TD也是 胸脯接,手不行就是不行。 |
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d*********o 发帖数: 6388 | 17 Masthay signed a 4 year, $5.47 million contract with the Packers in 2012.
This year he’s punted only 37 times in 12 games.
$36,926 per-punt in 2014. |
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c********t 发帖数: 2276 | 19 赛后UM在面对全国媒体询问其心脏对此次fake punt的感受,以及经过此fake punt后的
身体状况时,多次表示影响不大,情绪稳定。
BAMA
MEYER |
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F********r 发帖数: 407 | 20 4th and inches选PUNT,然后一个屎PUNT。 |
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p**x 发帖数: 6614 | 21 这个wikipedia的词条最后写道: 比赛最后Auburn intercept了bama一个,教练很不高
兴:你应该让他punt的……
这个太牛了
favorite |
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c*******0 发帖数: 5247 | 22 恩,第二个是punt到我们lineman了。就是想rugby punt,没料到他们ST速度那么快。 |
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y**h 发帖数: 3093 | 23 惨
大好局势啊
有米就靠他得分了
[在 cnbuff410 (chouchou) 的大作中提到:]
:恩,第二个是punt到我们lineman了。就是想rugby punt,没料到他们ST速度那么快。 |
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G****e 发帖数: 11198 | 24
还没那么严重。我密去年对MSU的那个punt倒相似。 |
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B*****n 发帖数: 135 | 25 ~{!>~} ~{TZ~} computarch (~{5QQ(~}) ~{5D4sWwVPLa5=~}: ~{!?~}
Suppose you have a temp P which is puting the ball away, and a
team R which is receiving the ball.
Ideally, the punter of temp P wants to punt the ball high and
far, so one of the following situations could happen:
1. the ball goes out of sideline near the end-zone; team P
don't want the ball to actually go into end-zone since that
means team R will start at 20 yard. or
2. the ball stays in the air so long that players of team P |
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d***o 发帖数: 6117 | 27 恩纳
punt也不算,俺当成drop kick了 |
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r**********g 发帖数: 22734 | 28 4 th and 18 at self 18, 不punt 才是认输了 |
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o********r 发帖数: 775 | 29 Down 3 scores, 6+ min to go, 不管啥情况,punt就是认输 |
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w*******n 发帖数: 11041 | 30 输一分是输,输30也是输啊。punt我觉得根本就没时间再有3次进攻机会了。bears TD
了。。。 |
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r**********g 发帖数: 22734 | 31 不punt直接就TD了,所谓怎么死的问题
TD |
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b********n 发帖数: 4256 | 32 The various rules books prescribe different methods for resuming play after
a safety. In the NFL, the team that gave up the points kicks to the other
team from its own 20-yard line. This is termed a free kick: the kicking team
has the option of employing a punt, kick or a drop kick. Unlike the kickoff
, a kicking tee may not be used (NFL only, college kickers have the option
of using a tee on the safety kick).
说实话这rule我不熟,刚wiki到的。 |
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d***o 发帖数: 6117 | 33 俺还以为只能drop kick
不过这样的话还是drop kick最合适,punt近,kick不让tee的话多费一个holder去
cover
after
team
kickoff |
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d***o 发帖数: 6117 | 34 20码踢前方少一个人cover,牛returner加训练有素特种队block,比return punt还容
易。 |
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m****m 发帖数: 4741 | 35 can't remember when was the last time they had a punt/KO return for TD |
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S*******r 发帖数: 1560 | 36 要是真没down就亏了。。。
不过punt倒是也能背return |
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H**p 发帖数: 2504 | 37 没有这样保护的吧,换替补上来不行吗?就是长鼻子喜欢玩花的,show一下自己的punt
技术。这样的拍子真是让人没发fan,一点都不classy. |
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c******n 发帖数: 5697 | 40 of course the kicker
he is the biggest goat of them all
he directly caused the loss
the punt returner is sad cuz he played the game in the rain, the ball was
too slippery |
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w******g 发帖数: 2854 | 41 是啊,而且当时两边都不得分,不象上半场,Gaints推进的还不错,基本上都是1-2-3-
punt |
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 42 Kicking-Ball 是专门用在punting和kicking的。皮要比一般的球要滑些。
昨晚绿湾2分conversion时,替补裁判用的是extra point的 k-ball,而不是正常的比
赛用球。
当然绿湾不能把2分conversion的失败赖在这个k-ball。 |
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JZ 发帖数: 437 | 43 这个运动过于傻逼了
使用的皮球取决于你怎么使用……
fake punt/kick难度被无故增加 |
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I*1 发帖数: 5635 | 44 let's see Karma after that fake punt |
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p******s 发帖数: 5200 | 47 it happens.
you can often see when a ball is punted and blocked and rolls back to the
kicking team's end zone, a kicking team player falls on it to prevent it
from being recovered by the other team. this is a safety. |
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l*******z 发帖数: 4276 | 48 如果在这种情况,决定要主动safety的话,使劲往End Zone界外踢应该是王道。比控球
容易多了。
那其实教练都应该教队员,在正常情况下(除了类似于比赛最后1分钟领先一分的情况
),如果在10yard以内被punt block,尽量 commit safety. 两分加drop kick,明显好
过铁定3分加或者大可能的7分啊 |
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k***r 发帖数: 13724 | 50 故意punt的很高但是距离有限,这么落地了自己人肯定跑到了。
我承认就留意了这场,以前那些没注意过。 |
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