C***r
发帖数: 759 | 1 BOOK VIII.
ARGUMENT.
AUGUSTIN COMES NOW TO THE THIRD KIND OF THEOLOGY, THAT IS,
THE NATURAL, AND TAKES UP THE QUESTION,
WHETHER THE WORSHIP OF THE GODS OF THE NATURAL THEOLOGY IS
OF ANY AVAIL TOWARDS SECURING BLESSEDNESS
IN THE LIFE TO COME. THIS QUESTION HE PREFERS TO DISCUSS
WITH THE PLATONISTS, BECAUSE THE PLATONIC SYSTEM
IS "FACILE PRINCEPS" AMONG PHILOSOPHIES, AND MAKES THE
NEAREST APPROXIMATION TO CHRISTIAN TRUTH. IN
PURSUING THIS ARGUMENT, HE FIRST REFUTES APULEIUS, AND ALL
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发帖数: 759 | 2 BOOK XIX.
ARGUMENT.
IN THIS BOOK THE END OF THE TWO CITIES, THE EARTHLY AND THE
HEAVENLY, IS DISCUSSED. AUGUSTIN REVIEWS THE
OPINIONS OF THE PHILOSOPHERS REGARDING THE SUPREME GOOD, AND
THEIR VAIN EFFORTS TO MAKE FOR
THEMSELVES A HAPPINESS IN THIS LIFE; AND, WHILE HE REFUTES
THESE, HE TAKES OCCASION TO SHOW WHAT THE PEACE
AND HAPPINESS BELONGING TO THE HEAVENLY CITY, OR THE PEOPLE
OF CHRIST, ARE BOTH NOW AND HEREAFTER.
CHAP. 1.--THAT VARRO HAS MADE OUT THAT TWO HUNDRED AND
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发帖数: 9 | 3 No offenSE, what's your opinion based on your facts?
the original post gives its opinion based on its facts.
and I don't think the facts you stated are even relevant
in refuting the original post's opinion.
Now allow me to venture a guess, are you implying that japanese
people is adorable because it is rich?
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发帖数: 26819 | 4 从自私说起
任何辩论都必然有一个起点，科学当然不会例外。假若我们在起点上就有争议，那么
科学就难以成事了。所以在任何科学发展中，参与的人都遵守一个大家不言自明的规则
：凡指明是基础假设（postulate），或是公理（axiom），大家都不在这基础上争论。
这不是说每个人都衷心同意这些假设或公理；是否认同不重要，重要的是同意不在起点
上有所争议。科学辩证的规则是：「且不要反对我在理论上必须有的起点，让我从这起
点以逻辑推出一套理论，有了可以用事实验证的含意（testable or refutable
implications），有了内容，到那时，你要反对才有所依凭的。事实上，假若可以验证
的含意被事实无情地推翻了，那我就不能不考虑我的基础假设是错了的。」
说起来，那些所谓不容许有争议的基础假设或公理，可能近于无稽，令人难以置信
的。例如，在数学上一个重要假设是这样说的：「假若一加一等于一个数字，这数字叫
作二；又假若二加一等于另一个数字，这数字叫作三.. 」听起来，这真的有点傻气。
但假若没有这个基础的假设，我们是无从知道一至二之间不可能有另一个数字。要是我
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发帖数: 6791 | 5 Acts 18:18-28 Priscilla, Aquila and Apollos
18Paul stayed on in Corinth for some time. Then he left the brothers and
sailed for Syria, accompanied by Priscilla and Aquila. Before he sailed, he
had his hair cut off at Cenchrea because of a vow he had taken. 19They
arrived at Ephesus, where Paul left Priscilla and Aquila. He himself went
into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews. 20When they asked him to
spend more time with them, he declined. 21But as he left, he promised, “I
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 6 The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events the
firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of this
ordered regularity for causes of a different nature. For him neither the
rule of human nor the rule of divine will exist as an independent cause of
natural events. To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with
the natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science,
for this doctrine can always take refuge in those doma... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3382 | 7 that's not the point here.
you will always have trouble accepting it if you let your faith take the
wheel and intentionally magnify your doubt and ignore what the findings
indicate. behe practically ignored the 50 something peer reviewed papers and
9 books, didn't he? and not to mention his "all-time effective" weapon of "
irreducible complexity". how long has hebe been using it to defend ID? 20
yrs? and by the way this weapon has been frequently refuted and rejected by
the science community. to... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10575 | 8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis#The_Christian_apologist
The Christian apologist
In addition to his career as an English professor and an author of fiction,
Lewis is regarded by many as one of the most influential Christian
apologists of his time; Mere Christianity was voted best book of the
twentieth century by Christianity Today in 2000.[44] Due to Lewis's approach
to religious belief as a skeptic, and his following conversion, he has been
called "The Apostle to the Skeptics."
Lewis wa... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 9 http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/smullyan.html
[excerpted from This Book Needs No Title: A Budget of Living Paradoxes by
Raymund Smullyan (Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice-Hall, 1980).
Copyright (c) 1980 by Raymond M. Smullyan; all rights reserved.]
I. The Modern Period
Once upon a time there was a universe. In this universe there was a planet.
On this planet there was virtually no laughter. Nothing like ``humor'' was
really known. People never laughed, nor jested, nor kidded, nor j... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 10 UNHAPPY mortals! Dark and mourning earth!
Affrighted gathering of human kind!
Eternal lingering of useless pain!
Come, ye philosophers, who cry, "All’s well,"
And contemplate this ruin of a world.
Behold these shreds and cinders of your race,
This child and mother heaped in common wreck,
These scattered limbs beneath the marble shafts—
A hundred thousand whom the earth devours,
Who, torn and bloody, palpitating yet,
Entombed beneath their hospitable roofs,
In racking torment end their stricken l... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 11
order
請舉例，同時請說明為什麼 complexity refute "random" cause.
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发帖数: 107 | 12 1) We might be able to analyze littletshirts' refutation of evolution for
this "random" assumption by reviewing the anthropic principle(人择原理). I
think it can be applied here. Certain mutations have to happen for the Homo
sapiens to evolve. But that doesn't mean mutations have a guidance or
are intervened by divine objects.
Say you are playing cards. Cards are shuffled and randomly distributed to
players. When we see the cards played by a player, we can get an idea of
what cards the player has. W... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 13 314 Immediately after its full legalisation, the Christian Church attacks
the gentiles (non-Christians). The Council of Ancyra denounces the worship
of Goddess Artemis.
324 The emperor Constantine declares Christianity as the only official
religion of the Roman empire. In Dydima, Minor Asia, he sacks the Oracle of
the god Apollo and tortures the Pagan priests to death. He also evicts all
non-Christian peoples from Mount Athos and destroys all the local Hellenic
temples.
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 14 再来点
"Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason"
"If I had to refute all the other articles of the Jewish faith, I should be
obliged to write against them as much and for as long a time as they have
used for inventing their lies - that is, longer than two thousand years"
"Mankind has a free will; but it is free to milk cows and to build houses,
nothing more."
"Idiots, the lame, the blind, the dumb, are men in whom the devils have
established themselves: and all the ph... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 15 发现DNA双螺旋结构的弗朗西斯.克里特解释为什么偏向无神论
My parents were religious in a rather quiet way. We had nothing like family
prayers, but they attended church every Sunday morning and when we were old
enough my brother and I went with them. The church was a nonconformist
protestant one, a Congregational Church, as it is called in England, with a
substantial building on Abington Avenue. As we did not own an automobile, we
often walked to church, though sometimes we made part of the journey by bus
. My mother greatl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 16 Philippians 2:6, 7
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men."
Problem:
Great stress is placed on "morphe" (the Greek word for form) by trinitarians
and others like the J.W.'s who teach that Christ had a pre-human existence.
It is argued that "in the form of God" means that Christ had the nature of
God before his birth, and it was this which he sacrif... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 19 Is this then our freedom of religion? and are we to have a censor whose
imprimatur shall say what books may be sold, and what we may buy? And who is
thus to dogmatize religious opinions for our citizens? Whose foot is to be
the measure to which ours are all to be cut or stretched? Is a priest to be
our inquisitor, or shall a layman, simple as ourselves, set up his reason as
the rule for what we are to read, and what we must believe? It is an insult
to our citizens to question whether they are ra... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 20
fine and likewise, 'cause you can not come up with even ONE example to refute my statement
that "evolution theory" the science is based on "random" mutation ASSUMPTION
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 21 And you never actually read my answer to your question before anyway.
I told you random (mutation) or not, evolution theory holds.
So I don't really care it's random or not.
(Natural selection is not random though)
refute my statement
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 22 John Calvin did not understand the good news of millennial kingdom.
"Calvin regarded premillennialism as a "fiction" that is "too puerile to nee
d or to deserve refutation."
hears
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 23 Yesterday on my favorite local Christian radio, my favorite Pastor in a Q&A
program rebuked the amillennialists. In his view, Satan was obviously not b
ound now. I think everyone here agrees. Satan is not chained and sealed in
"great deep" nowadays.Funny that the amillennialists argue that Satan is ch
ained right now, but the chain is very long. Therefore, Satan can still cli
mb out of the "great deep" and harm us.
John Calvin, as an amillennialist, wrote in Institutes that the millennial k... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 24 From Augustine To Calvin
There is no question that John Calvin had a great zeal for God and His
Word. As we have already seen, however, there was a serious defect in his un
derstanding of true Christianity. In many ways which colored his perspective
until his death, he still viewed the church of Christ through Roman Catholi
c eyes. One of those ways was his acceptance of the church as Constantine ha
d molded it and Augustine had cemented it: a partner of the state, with the
state enforcing ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 55 | 25 从lz链接出处贴一段原文
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Excerpt. © Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.
In "The Christ Myth," John Remsburg elucidates:
"The Four Gospels were unknown to the early Christian Fathers. Justin Martyr
, the most eminent of the early Fathers, wrote about the middle of the
second century. His writings in proof of the divinity of Christ demanded the
use of these Gospels, had they existed in his time. He makes more than 300
quotations from the boo... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 27 是的。我认为那就是应用。因为如果现在的文章里面有一段这么长的文字并且没有引号
，会被定义为抄袭。
如果你认为四福音书是从这边书copy的，那我也无话可说啦。
旧约是只有一本，但作者超过四个吧。所以我认为是可比的。
-〉〉〉你是指拿出来的那些？你和原文比较过了没？旧约是本有500年历史的成书，在
当时说到经书，谁都知道指的什么，和无数分散的人写的回忆录怎么比？ 当时可没有
新约哈
耶稣回答说、你们错了．因为不明白圣经、也不晓得神的大能。
论到死人复活、神在经上向你们所说的、你们没有念过么。
若是这样、经上所说、事情必须如此的话、怎么应验呢。
我看不出以上的话引用作者名字有任何必要性
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名字这个我上一个贴我已经说明了我的看法。
至于我说关于圣经是神的默示，我是想表达圣经的作者对于我来讲并不是最关键的。关
键的是上面记了什么。
-〉〉〉归纳一个字，信就得啦， 是真是假无所谓？
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发帖数: 3781 | 28 by Dave Hunt
Is There A Bias At Work?
If God intends that all mankind seek Him, and if He must be sought before He
is found, then we can only conclude that those who have not yet found God a
nd thus are not yet regenerated are capable of a genuine seeking after God a
s he draws all men unto Him (John 12:32). Calvinism's conclusion, that man m
ust be regenerated before he can believe or even seek God, is contrary to th
e clear teaching of Scripture. This is dealt with in more depth in subsequen
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发帖数: 6791 | 29 第一部分 今日的福音：好消息还是坏消息？
1. 耶稣说“跟着我”，到底是什么意思？
耶稣是主（林前12:3）
这是基督教里最核心、基本、独特的一句。也是每一个真正的基督徒必须做的第一
个最基本的承认：“如果你口里承认耶稣是主，心里相信神使他死里复活，你就得救了
”（罗10:9）。要说某个人可能是真正的基督徒，但是整个的生活方式、价值观、言谈
、态度都明显有着倔强的拒绝向“耶稣是主”这个观念投降的特征，这说法甚至不需要
被反驳。这个想法你在基督教教义和实践里从来也找不到，从早期教会神父到宗教改革
以及后来至少三个半世纪以来一直是这样。现在常见的不强调耶稣主权的福音派教义体
现了当代福音运动的浅薄和精神上的贫乏。这也无疑是福音运动困乏的重要原因之一。
你没法从福音里去掉耶稣的主权而不在根本上削弱信仰。这也正是今日教会里发生的情
形。
耶稣的教导和教会组织从来就把他的主权放在核心地位。当我们回顾本书里他的早
期生活和教会组织，你会明显的看到这点。他从来不回避宣称他作为掌权人的权威。他
向门徒、敌人、偶遇的询问者都是这样宣称的----在要求无条件投降这点上他拒绝妥协
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 30 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Godwithus (神与我们同在), 信区: Belief
标 题: Is Mormonism a cult?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 18 21:47:23 2011, 美东)
Is Mormonism a cult?
by Matt Slick
Yes, Mormonism is a cult. Mormonism, also called The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints (LDS), is not considered to be Christian by Christian
s. In fact, Mormonism teaches the following non Christian, non biblical doc
trines. (Note that all the documentation is taken from Mormon writers and M
ormon scriptures.)
God use... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 712 | 31 CALVIN BELIEVED IN INFANT BAPTISM
Calvin said, "Baptism is properly administered to infants is something owed
to them."
CALVIN BELIEVED IN SACRAMENTS EQUAL TO GOD'S WORD
"Therefore, let it be regarded as a settled principle that the sacraments
have the same office as the Word of God: to offer and set forth Christ to us
, and in him the treasures of heavenly grace."
CALVIN BELIEVED IN AMILLENNIALISM AND WAS AGAINST PREMILLENNIALISM
Calvin said, "But a little later there followed the Chiliasts, wh... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 32 丁道尔：
尼哥拉黨的事我們我們知道的不多，啟示錄是唯一提起這黨人的地方。愛任紐認為
這異端是由教會初期所選出的七位執事之一的尼哥拉（徒六5；Adv. Haer. i. 26.3;
iii, 10.7）所開始。亞歷山太的革利免（Clement of Alexandria）卻為執事尼哥拉辯
護（Strom. iii. 4.25）認為他是被誤解了。這當然全是猜測。啟示錄的第一位註釋者
柏圖的維克多（Victorinus of Pettau）說這一黨人以尼哥拉為名義製造一異端到處擾
亂人，他們宣稱拜過偶像之食物，經趕鬼辟邪後可以進食，犯淫亂者在第八天就可重獲
平安（ANF，VII，p.346）。這也是猜測。
由語源學立場看，尼哥拉的名字包含「勝利」和「人」的意思，而巴蘭的意義也大
致相仿。本章談及巴蘭（14節）和耶洗別（20節）兩黨人的所作所為似是大同小異，說
不定尼哥拉黨也是與該兩黨有相關聯。當然我們也沒有辦法證明確是如此，但我認為將
本章提及的三黨視作相關而不盡相同似乎是合理的。教會的仇敵不是外在公然攻擊信仰
的勢力，而是教內的假師傅，他們自稱「不是企圖摧滅基督教，而是提供一個更好更現
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发帖数: 5754 | 33
JC's comments on 1;3
Concerning his own Son, etc. -- This is a remarkable passage, by
which we are taught that the whole gospel is included in Christ, so
that if any removes one step from Christ, he withdraws himself from the
gospel. For since he is the living and express image of the Father, it
is no wonder, that he alone is set before us as one to whom our whole
faith is to be directed and in whom it is to center. It is then a
definition of the gospel, by which Paul expresse... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 34
4. God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written,
That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when
thou art judged.
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4. But let God be true, etc. Whatever may be the opinion of others, I regard
this as an argument taken from the necessary consequence of what is opposed
to it, by which Paul invalidates the preceding objection. For since these
two things stand together, yea, necessarily accord, that God is true and
that man is false, it follow... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 35
伏在神的审判之下。
19. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who
are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may
become guilty before God.
"19. Now we know, etc. Leaving the Gentiles, he distinctly addresses his
words to the Jews; for he had a much more difficult work in subduing them,
because they, though no less destitute of true righteousness than the
Gentiles, yet covered themselves with the cloak of God’s covenant, as
though it was a sufficien... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3 | 36
回应：
一、注意“长老”不是“老年人”可能是年轻人或中年人。请长老抹油祷告是很正常的
，任何相信圣经的教会都会有人相信并实践的。
二、我不清楚怎样解释‘“圣经”“新约”明确要求女人在教会要“闭口不言”’。
我不知道这个教导是不是绝对的，或“明确”。
例如，哥林多前书十一章，
4 凡男人祷告或是讲道（讲道或作说预言下同），若蒙着头，就羞辱自己的头。 5 凡
女人祷告或是讲道，若不蒙着头，就羞辱自己的头。因为这就如同剃了头发一样。 6
女人若不蒙着头，就该剪了头发。女人若以剪发剃发为羞愧，就该蒙着头。
这些经文意为，女人可以讲道（先知预言）只有蒙头（要不就剪头发）就可以了。与哥
林多前书十四章34-35节的教导有异。我没时间具体查原文希腊文怎么写的。
在网上找到一篇有关文章。（比较长）
http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=16
Correctly Interpreting 1 Corinthians 14:33b-35 (Part 1＆Part 2)
by Steve Atkerson
If you ever wis... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 37
of
It's about 100%. Every scientific theory win by more scientists support it.
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发帖数: 4298 | 38 It's about 100%. Every scientific theory win by more scientists support it.
You can refute this easily by name a single counter example.
你没戴眼镜还是没带脑子，我贴了数据。没戴眼镜没带脑子神都可以
原谅你，说谎欺骗神必不喜悦，爬去宽门吧，AMEN。
“签名的Steve们有近三分之二的是生物学和相关学科背景，其学术水平可不是发现研
究所硬凑起来的名单上的多数人可以比的。传教士们用反进化签名来鼓吹神创论，徒增
笑料而已。[4]”
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TrustInJesus/754697.html
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发帖数: 5754 | 39
---后验的上帝? can you clarify since I'm not sure about this term. do you
mean posterior, or shall it be ex ante predictability?
子在下落过程中和在地上的随机碰撞
-- so you agree that something may seem random to you and me but can be
totally deterministic from God's perspective?
it is not his definition, it is THE definition from the Bible --预知未来的
全
能个体, because "time" doesn't mean anything to God because he exists
beyond
the constraints of space & time.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4298 | 40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
It was also published under the title Guns, Germs and Steel: A short history
of everybody for the last 13,000 years.[2] The book attempts to explain why
Eurasian civilizations (in which he includes North Africa) have survived
and conquered others, while refuting the assumption that Eurasian hegemony
is due to any form of Eurasian intellectual, moral or inherent genetic
superiority. Diamond argues that the gaps in power and technology between
hu... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18160 | 42 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1：1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
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l**********t
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good summary.
In addition, John Calvin commented on the status of Mary --"This saying of
Christ openly and manifestly warns men to beware lest, by too
superstitiously elevating the honor of the name of mother in the Virgin Mary
, “En la vierge Marie.” they transfer to her what belongs exclusively to
God"
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Woman, what have I to do with thee?
Why does Christ repel her so rashly? I reply, though she was not moved by
ambition, nor by any carnal affection, still she did wrong in going beyond
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l**********t
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in the context of Sabbath
"所以犹太人越发想要杀他。因他不但犯了安息日，并且称神为他的父，将自己和神当作
平等"
"And certainly Christ intended that it should be understood that God was his
Father in a peculiar sense, so as to distinguish himself from the ordinary
rank of other men. He made himself equal to God, when he claimed for himself
continuance in working; and Christ is so far from denying this, that he
confirms it more distinctly. This refutes the madness of the Arians, who
acknowledged that Christ is God, but did not think that... 阅读全帖 |
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d******r
发帖数: 5008 | 45
猪头们, 你们是不是以为基督教人口多的国家堕胎很低呀.
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(這研究結論是基督徒多的民主美國有較高謀殺率，而愈是信教不虔的民主國家愈少社
會不正常。又以淋病而言，美國青少年的發生率是信教不虔的民主國家的300倍，同時
梅毒在美國的青少年與成人感染率、與少女的墮胎率也是最高的！ )
Societies worse off ‘when they have God on their side’
Times Online, UK
Sep. 27, 2005
Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
www.timesonline.co.uk
ReligionNewsBlog.com • Thursday September 29, 2005
Religious belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high
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jym2307 (罪魁) 于 (Tue Nov 1 17:30:19 2011, 美东) 提到:
1:1耶稣基督的仆人保罗，奉召为使徒，特派传神的福音。
1:2这福音是神从前藉众先知，在圣经上所应许的。
1:3论到他儿子，我主耶稣基督。按肉体说，是从大卫后裔生的。
1:4按圣善的灵说，因从死里复活，以大能显明是神的儿子。
1:5我们从他受了恩惠，并使徒的职分，在万国之中叫人为他的名信服真道。
1:6其中也有你们这蒙召属耶稣基督的人。
1:7我写信给你们在罗马为神所爱，奉召作圣徒的众人。愿恩惠平安，从我们的父神，
并主耶稣基督，归与你们。
1：1 首先讲到保罗的身份，是耶稣基督的仆人，是使徒，而他的职责就是传“神的福
音”。一句话，保罗言简意赅的描述了自己的身份和使命。
1：2 其次保罗讲到了福音与旧约的关系，是承传的关系，是在旧约中就应许了的福音。
1：3 按旧约说，耶稣基督是大卫后裔，应验了旧约的预言和神的应许。参见撒母耳记
下7：12
1：4 按新约说，耶稣以复活显明自己是神的儿子。
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 47 一个人是否是另一个人的孩子，属于个例，并不是科学理论。科学理论是universal的
。只有数学定理可以在一定的公理体系下被证明，科学理论不可以被证明，只能被证伪
，这是20世纪以来主流的科学方法观。哲学的证明和科学的证明定义相同，因为我说的
哲学就是研究科学本质的哲学。所以楼主的观点“进化论是科学，科学可以被证明”是
错误的。Littleshirt的本意就是指出这个错误。至于你们讨论进化论什么的，和我无
关。
举例说，广义相对论并没有被证明，只是目前观察它解释的最好。一百万个实验支持广
相，也不能代表它被证实。一朝若有反例，广相即被证伪。但是在人类有限认知能力下
，我们权且认为相对论是正确的，那么可以用相对论“证明”一些物理现象。如果小岛
对这方面感兴趣，推荐阅读Karl Popper的Conjectures and Refutations. 书中他对
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 48 Contraception
Historically, Christians always have condemned contraceptive sex. The two
forms mentioned in the Bible, and sterilization, are
condemned without exception (Gen. 38:9-10, Deut. 23:1). The Fathers of the
Church recognized that in natural law the purpose of sexual intercourse is
procreation; contraceptive sex, which deliberately blocks that natural
purpose, is therefore a violation of natural law.
Every church in Christendom condemned contraception until 1930, whe... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
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It means you didn't refute the core argument. |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 50 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译 :你认为圣经中很多地方说的并不清楚，我想先请你看几节经文
也许我没说清楚，我的意思是，在我们读起来，很多地方确切的意义不是很明确，有事
和其他经文一起理解的时候会不好理解。
:提后3：16“圣经全都是上帝用圣灵启示的，对于教导、责备、纠正、按正义施行
:管教，尽都有益，17 叫敬神的人可以完全胜任，装备齐全，做各样的善工。
2 Timothy 3:16-17
New International Version (NIV)
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a]
may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
King James Version (KJV)
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