z****0
发帖数: 3942 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹), 信区: USANews
标 题: Trump需要向布什和Karl Rove学习的地方
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 1 09:27:42 2016, 美东)
最近trump在回应穆斯林烈士可汗父亲的发难时，故意把话题引向烈士的母亲，暗示她
是一个地位很低的穆斯林妇女。这个回应引发舆论哗然，甚至来自GOP阵营的一致反弹
，包括Lindey Grahan, Paul Ryan等。
首先说民主党这个攻击很高明。在政治斗争中很聪明的一着就是把你的王牌变成致命伤
。Trump的王牌有两张： 禁穆斯林和爱国。民主党推出一位穆斯林的爱国烈士，一时间
让这两张王牌自相矛盾，化为乌有。
这不禁让我想起12年前布什的高参karl rove搞民主党候选人john kerry的大招。Kerry
竞选的一个大卖点就是他自愿参加越战并负伤荣获紫心勋章的经历，和布什依靠参加预
备役而逃避上前线形成巨大对比。Karl rove的聪明之处在于，绝对不让布什，甚至竞
选班子亲自出面，正面挑战kerry... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 2 Karl Rove Lee Atwater从大学就是一伙后来分别成就了布什父子总统大业。Manafort
Roger Stone 一大学里另一伙后来跟里根，布什上台这俩就不跟主流混了，近来跟床铺
。从这点看布什父子和里根床铺是两条线的人。
At one point, MAnafort described Karl Rove, a former adviser to George W.
Bush who was organizing an anti-Trump effort, as “my blood enemy in
politics, going back to the College in the 1960s.”
Mr. Rove said Mr. Manafort was referring to a bitter fight for leadership of
the College Republicans that pitted a candidate backed by Mr. Manafort and
his close friend Roger ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 3 最近trump在回应穆斯林烈士可汗父亲的发难时，故意把话题引向烈士的母亲，暗示她
是一个地位很低的穆斯林妇女。这个回应引发舆论哗然，甚至来自GOP阵营的一致反弹
，包括Lindey Grahan, Paul Ryan等。
首先说民主党这个攻击很高明。在政治斗争中很聪明的一着就是把你的王牌变成致命伤
。Trump的王牌有两张： 禁穆斯林和爱国。民主党推出一位穆斯林的爱国烈士，一时间
让这两张王牌自相矛盾，化为乌有。
这不禁让我想起12年前布什的高参karl rove搞民主党候选人john kerry的大招。Kerry
竞选的一个大卖点就是他自愿参加越战并负伤荣获紫心勋章的经历，和布什依靠参加预
备役而逃避上前线形成巨大对比。Karl rove的聪明之处在于，绝对不让布什，甚至竞
选班子亲自出面，正面挑战kerry的英雄事迹，而是搞了一个看似中立的super pac,
“越战快船老兵反对kerry”, 揭露kerry的战功有夸大之嫌，和他以后的反战行为，背
叛了战友。这招非常高明，kerry应对失当，他本来可以加分的越战荣耀变成了需要遮
掩的包袱。
反观，trump, 直接赤膊上阵反击... 阅读全帖 |
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 4 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/24/karl-rove-gay-marriage
Count Republican strategist Karl Rove among the folks who see a possible GOP
evolution on gay marriage.
In an appearance on Sunday's edition of ABC's "This Week," Rove was asked by
host George Stephanopoulos whether he could "imagine" the next GOP
presidential candidate saying they are flat out for gay marriage.
"I could," Rove said.
Some Republican strategists are not convinced change will happen that
quickly. John Weaver, manager ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 5 National Review专访Karl Rove
http://article.nationalreview.com/427321/the-architect-is-an-open-book/interview
The Architect Is an Open Book
A revelatory Karl Rove.
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | Next >
Karl Rove — the George W. Bush confidante who needs no introduction — has
written a memoir of his life in politics, Courage and Consequence: My Life
as a Conservative in the Fight, which is released today. It includes an
intimate look at Rove, his family — which has come under attac |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 6 我知道Rove是很多人心中的偶像和英雄，但在我看来，共和党就是毁在Rove这种人手上
的。只要Karl Rove这种人还是共和党的strategiest，共和党不仅今年选不上总统，
2016，2020， 2024,2028，2032 都会一直选不上。
看不清美国的趋势，只会到教堂发动及右份子有啥用呢？
走中间路线，敞开胸怀，包容各民族各阶层才是正道。 |
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n******8
发帖数: 558 | 7 So We'll Go No More a Roving
BY LORD BYRON (GEORGE GORDON)
So, we'll go no more a roving
So late into the night,
Though the heart be still as loving,
And the moon be still as bright.
For the sword outwears its sheath,
And the soul wears out the breast,
And the heart must pause to breathe,
And love itself have rest.
Though the night was made for loving,
And the day returns too soon,
Yet we'll go no more a roving
By the light of the moon.
我们不该再流连
嗯， 我们不该再流连
这夜已央，
即使心依然有着爱恋，
月依然闪亮... 阅读全帖 |
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A*******y
发帖数: 11148 | 8 Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political adviser, is resigning as
White House deputy chief of staff effective Aug. 31, and returning to Texas,
marking a turning point for the Bush presidency.
Mr. Rove's departure removes one of the White House's most polarizing
figures, and perhaps signals the effective end of the lame duck
administration's role in shaping major domestic policy decisions, where the
former Texas political consultant was a driving force. Mr. Rove revealed his
plans in an int |
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b*****e
发帖数: 193 | 9 rove认为是个mistake。,rove说大局上，人们还是期待有一个变化。他认为f是想说明o
没有经验，但是说的不兑。
应该是对h campaign有伤害的。
不过o的还击也不怎么有格调，从性别入手，
不过没有人care最后这个。 |
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a**********s
发帖数: 50 | 10 【 以下文字转载自 WorldNews 讨论区 】
发信人: allantopoles (ss), 信区: WorldNews
标 题: Rove: Voters Want Economic Leadership
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 17 01:54:48 2008)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121625104564560159.html?mod=todays_columnists
Voters Want Economic Leadership
By KARL ROVE
July 17, 2008
Elections are often reshaped by unexpected and fast-moving events, and when
this happens a candidate who quickly takes the lead on the new issue can
bolster his chances to win. There is such an opportunity now for |
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c*d
发帖数: 108 | 11 巴马226个，老马200个， toss up 112个
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/electoral-map.html
http://www.rove.com/election
Here is the latest national electoral map constructed by Karl Rove & Co.,
which The Ticket publishes weekly as they become available.
Sen. John McCain’s bounce in the national polls has started to trickle down
to the state level—he now trails Sen. Barack Obama by only 26 electoral
votes, making the race closer now than it has been at any point since early
June.
Overall, |
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p*******w
发帖数: 42 | 13 既然你推翻板副的判决,那你就要给出理由.那两天我PA的贴子大部分都是ROVE的贴子引
起的,你既然赦免了它,却反过来封我,而且是过了几天之后,你怎么解释.如果你不能给
出合理解释,那只能说明你偏袒ROVE这种以戏弄广大具有中国心的买卖替水车为乐的,没
有丝毫廉耻的老将,仇视具有爱国心的小将,你的行为已经表明你没有最起码的公平心,
根本不配在做班主.现在你有两条路可走,一是向我道歉,解除地我的封禁,如果你非要坚
持你的错误,那我奉劝你最好还是赶紧辞职,以免遭弹劾. |
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M*V
发帖数: 3205 | 15 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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J*V
发帖数: 3150 | 16 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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E*V
发帖数: 17544 | 18 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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E*V
发帖数: 17544 | 20 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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J*V
发帖数: 3150 | 21 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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F*V
发帖数: 3978 | 22 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 23 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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F*V
发帖数: 3978 | 24 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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D*V
发帖数: 3096 | 25 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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U*E
发帖数: 3620 | 26 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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发帖数: 42116 | 27 ROVE是很NB的老将。前些日子有个英国人当街强奸妇女，我说出来打老外的是小将，只
旁观的是老将。人家立马接了句，这小将早晚变老将。 |
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E*V
发帖数: 17544 | 28 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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D*V
发帖数: 3096 | 29 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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F*V
发帖数: 3978 | 30 发信人: rove (Lion Cub║焚剑煮酒心已死), 信区: Military
标 题: 跟一群幼儿园小孩似的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 2 17:22:48 2010, 美东)
你赖皮！
不，你才赖皮！
有种你发毒誓！ |
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j**n
发帖数: 13789 | 31 【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: jnyn (hamster), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: 小将Rove系列轰动全水区的惊人之语
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 29 16:36:42 2010, 美东)
发信人: rove22 (独轮运全家死光), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 只有把父母扔在国内自生自灭，才算是融入美国主流
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 28 12:26:19 2010, 美东)
你们看看第一代到美洲的欧洲移民有几个管父母死活的？你们看看周围美国人有几个管
父母死活的？你
们不把父母扔在国内自生自灭，就不算是真正融入美国主流，只配做三等公民！
原贴地址
http://www.mitbbsjp.com/article_t/WaterWorld/564703.html |
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a***c
发帖数: 315 | 32 Rove不一般呀.把自己要说的话说了,还避免被叫做racist.两边各打50大板 |
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m******n
发帖数: 6327 | 34 From Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120899654405739949.html
Is Obama Ready for Prime Time?
By KARL ROVE
April 24, 2008
After being pummeled 55% to 45% in the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama
was at a loss for explanations. The best he could do was to compliment his
supporters in an email saying, "you helped close the gap to a slimmer margin
than most thought possible." Then he asked for money.
With $42 million in the bank, money is the least of Sen. Obama's problems.
He ne |
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m******n
发帖数: 6327 | 35 From WSJ.com
Getting to Know John McCain
By KARL ROVE
April 30, 2008; Page A17
It came to me while I was having dinner with Doris Day. No, not that Doris
Day. The Doris Day who is married to Col. Bud Day, Congressional Medal of
Honor recipient, fighter pilot, Vietnam POW and roommate of John McCain at
the Hanoi Hilton.
As we ate near the Days' home in Florida recently, I heard things about Sen.
McCain that were deeply moving and politically troubling. Moving because
they told me things about him |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 36 真可谓忠心耿耿！难得啊！
Bush Was Right When It Mattered Most
By KARL ROVE
Its call sign has always been Air Force One. But on Tuesday, it was Special
Air Mission 28000, as former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura
returned home to Texas on a plane full of family, friends, former staff and
memories of eight years in the White House.
The former president and his wife thanked each passenger, showing the
thoughtfulness and grace so characteristic of this wonderful American family.
A video tribute prod |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 37 “05年参议院金融委员会审议监管两房议案，当时奥巴马（两房第3大政治献金得主）
和其他民主党议员一起利用程序阻止议案表决”
Fannie and Freddie and the community reinvestment act have cost taxpayers billions over the past 30 years. They should have been left to fail. Rove is telling the truth that during the Bush era they tried to rein in Fannie and Freddie. Just search H.R. 2575. Dodd, Frank and Reed didn't want it. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 38 说实话这个david水平真差。除了talking points,什么都没有。至少Rove列数据。 |
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o******e
发帖数: 575 | 39 Rove这个双手沾满了世界人民鲜血的王八蛋该废了丫的。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 40 By Michael O'Brien - 10/13/10 10:02 AM ET
The GOP-aligned American Crossroads said Wednesday it has raised over
$13 million since coming under attack from President Obama.
The group and its campaign affiliate, Crossroads GPS, said it had
easily surpassed its initial fundraising goal of $50 million to spend
on behalf of Republicans, and has increased its target to $65 million,
according to spokesman Jonathan Collegio.
The boffo numbers come after a week in which Obama led Democrats in
attacks... 阅读全帖 |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 42 Rove，就是他毁了共和党的，就是他把共和党彻底推向了机右。 |
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 43 不要太乐观了。他是共和党的人。就像我不相信民主党的左派一样，Rove说得也要打个
折扣。 |
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发帖数: 1637 | 45 From Rove's own map on 10/29, in 9 toss-up states, only Florida is up 2 for
Romney, all others are behind Obama 2 or more except two states even, I dont
know how he got 279 for Romney. Does he mean somehow to rig the election?
This could be an ugly ominous sign. |
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f*********g
发帖数: 1637 | 46 #9, if anything "过去一周poll的细化分析" from all polls, it clearly shows up
trend for Obama, not Romney. His peak reached around 10/22, a week ago of
Rove's map on 10/29.
It appears you know his magic number, would you enlighten us please? |
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m******O
发帖数: 596 | 47 Well，我觉得没有什么further enlightenment的必要，因为我刚才并没有提出什么云
里雾里的理论，而只不过陈述了一个简单的事实：
你说：Karl Rove的文章和他的Election Map相互矛盾。
我说：文章的样本窗口是过去七天，而Election Map的样本窗口是过去十四天。所以你
是在用香蕉来比较苹果。
“... As of yesterday afternoon(10/30), there had been 31 national surveys
in the previous seven days. Mr. Romney led in 19, President Obama in seven,
and five were tied. Mr. Romney averaged 48.4%; Mr. Obama, 47.2%. The GOP
challenger was at or above 50% in 10 polls, Mr. Obama in none...”
up |
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f*********g
发帖数: 1637 | 48 So you think Rove's map isnt updated, right? Okay you may update it and give
us explanation why Romney can get 279? |
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f*********g
发帖数: 1637 | 49 So you or Rove couldn't explain the magic 279. Fine.
As matter of fact, from commonly used RCP, his lead in 7 days dropped to 0
on 10/30. |
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t*b
发帖数: 850 | 50 Rove's prediction based on numbers.
left's predition based on"we think 2012 is more like 2008 than 2004". |
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