e*****n
发帖数: 3129 | 1 了解了
俺想俺也了解你探讨宗教时的立场了
I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, be you Hindu,
Jewish or Muslim. I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus
Christ as your personal savior. |
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s*****n
发帖数: 209 | 2 >>3.您老无法接受的那种绝对的矛盾，来源于你作为智能生物的优越感和死亡
>>的恐惧。科学研究表明，对于精神死后延续的强烈直觉是支撑人类生存
>>繁衍的一大关键因素，它使得人能够对抗死亡带来的恐惧，进而将注意力
>>放在如何生活上。
有道理.
无神论者也许是人类进化到了一种即使知道了死后精神消失
也能心平气和的新人种。 这种人也越来越多了。 不过对与
精神死亡的恐惧还是需要的。 这种恐惧会促使人们提高科学，
用科学方法来延续生命， 甚至把意识行为转到机器上。
毕竟， 人的身体是很脆弱的。 当然， 这些科学发展的可能性,
在于唯物主义， 在于精神意识并不神秘， 而是复杂系统的运行体现。
否则， 如果你感到死后可以精神不灭， 甚至可能上天堂，
人类的科学发展， 延长寿命， 实在是没有任何意义。
还不如早死早上天堂。
从这个角度上看， 唯物主义是精神意识的真正savior，
而不是什么上帝神仙或佛. |
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s******g
发帖数: 5074 | 3 基督徒的信，大都是有所保留的。
这一点，俺大概基本上可以100%确定 |
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n*******0
发帖数: 2002 | 4 统计上有数据说：宗教人士在人生行将就木的时候，总是更多的祈祷，并且尽可能的延
长在世的时日。既然死后灵魂不灭，为什么不痛快的去解脱了呢？当灵魂多好，可以去
天堂或者地狱冒险，还能结识历史上那么多的名人。 |
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l*****n
发帖数: 328 | 5 因为这些人心里深处也知道这一切都是虚幻，都是自己安慰自己的，所谓“精神寄托”
。 到了最后关头，终结时刻，自己对死亡的恐惧还是表现了出来。 Because they too
know in their heart, that this is the only life we got.... |
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S**r
发帖数: 2478 | 6 在 purdueguy (仙风道骨 云游散仙) 的大作中提到: 】
the Old Testament about the savior Jesus were all fulfilled in the New
Testament!
又一个惊天地泣鬼神的笑话。基基人才辈出呀。 |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 7 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: GetThere (不学有术), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 耶稣是去天堂的唯一之路吗？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 1 12:15:20 2009, 美东)
(此文根据网上资料编辑而成，非原创）
圣经里说了，耶稣是唯一之路：
John 14:6 "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the
Father except through me."
Isaiah 45:21 "There is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior;
there is none but me."
这使得基督教具有极大的排他性。"According to an article by Daniel Taylor in
Christianity Today, many Americans consider the worst sin to be intolerance |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 8 "More Holiness Give Me"
More holiness give me, more strivings within.
More patience in suffering, more sorrow for sin.
More faith in my Savior, more sense of His care.
More joy in His service, more purpose in prayer.
More gratitude give me, more trust in the Lord.
More zeal for His glory, more hope in His Word.
More tears for His sorrows, more pain at His grief.
More meekness in trial, more praise for relief.
More purity give me, more strength to o’ercome,
More freedom from earth-stains, more lo |
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P***8
发帖数: 116 | 9 首先，我对摩门教绝对没有恶意，接触到的摩门教徒都十分友善，自己也很佩服他们对
自己信仰的虔诚。摩门教没有说其他的教会是假的，只是坚称其他教会掌握的是部分
Gospel，自己掌握的是fully restored Gospel。
关于摩门教是不是邪教异教，这个的定义也是仁者见仁，反正我知道摩门教worship 的
是上帝和耶稣，他们每天祈祷很勤，以“dear heavenly father..."开始，以"I say
that in the name of our savior/thy son Jesus Christ，Amen."结束。个人认为基
督教，或者是其他Christ Follower没有必要对其特别仇视。
无论是摩门经，还是圣经，我理解是如果有信心，就不难理解，我见过有很虔诚的基督
徒，也有很虔诚的摩门教徒，人也都很好，真正在生活中做到了言行一致。当然，我自
己信心很弱，所以无论是圣经还是摩门经，都有很多不解，也有很多怀疑。发帖到这，
这是想和大家讨论一下。看了这个帖子里的讨论，感觉很有意思，同样一个件事件，同
样一件证据，不同信仰的人，看在眼里，关注的地方就会不一样，得出的结 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 10 #66 Rejoice, the Lord is King
Rejoice, the Lord is King,
Your Lord and King adore;
Mortals, give thanks and sing
And triumph evermore:
Lift up your heart, lift up your voice;
Rejoice, again I say, rejoice.
The Lord, the savior reigns,
The God of truth and love:
When He had purged our stains
He took His seat above:
Lift up your heart, lift up your voice;
Rejoice, again I say, rejoice.
His kingdom cannot fail;
He rules o'er earth and heav'n;
The keys of death and hell
to Christ the lord are giv'n: |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YD4E3sRkSM&feature=related
一些对这个录像的网友评论：
question： I’m non-denominational christian. I've heard the same as
you, that Mormons are not really questions etc...
Where does this label come from? If Mormons claim to believe in Jesus Christ
as lord and savior and the only way to get into heaven, then why do the
other denominations attack you? |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQoZG_J_qc
For you. when you're in the world and no one seems to be listening.. At
least One always is.
Lyrics:
Ere you left your room this morning,
Did you think to pray?
In the name of Christ our Savior,
Did you sue for loving favor,
As a shield today?
Chorus:
Oh, how praying rests the weary!
Prayer will change the night to day;
So when life seems dark and dreary,
Dont forget to pray.
When your heart was filled with anger,
Did you think to pray?
Did you plead fo |
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t*******d
发帖数: 2570 | 13 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-mcswain/god-in-america-the-pbs-sp_b_757098.html
God in America: The PBS Special and a Conversation With Stephen Prothero
"God is dead," said Nietzsche. Well, maybe somewhere, but not here, as the
PBS special, God in America makes abundantly clear.
I recently interviewed the chief editorial consultant to this PBS special,
airing this week, Dr. Stephen Prothero. As the distinguished professor of
religion at Boston University, his research and books have been wid... 阅读全帖 |
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 14 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: gshjj (各输己键), 信区: Military
标 题: Science and religion aren't friends zz
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 14 16:37:26 2010, 美东)
By Jerry A. Coyne
Religion in America is on the defensive.
Atheist books such as The God Delusion and The End of Faith have, by
exposing the dangers of faith and the lack of evidence for the God of
Abraham, become best-sellers. Science nibbles at religion from the other end
, relentlessly consuming divine explanations and replacing them with
material... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 15 Joseph B Wirthlin,"the Law of the Fast", Liahona, July 2001 88-91
Our Savior said"if you love me you shall serve me and keep all my
commandments", One way we show our love is through observance of the law of
the fast. This law is based upon a primary yet profound principle---a simple
practice--that, if observed with the proper spirit, will help us draw
closer to our heavenly Father and strengthen our faith, while at the same
time help us ease the burdens of others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 16 seekingtruf
I love Elder Holland, love the Book of Mormon, and most of all, love the
Savior. The Book of Mormon increases an understanding of Christ's mission,
as well as an understanding of the Bible. No wonder a recent Pew
Research Center survey identified "Mormons" as the most religiously educated
of any Christian group, and this included knowledge of world religions. For
those who need it, evidence of the B of M not only exists, but abounds. But
a testimony based in evidence won't st... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaZgZMVGsks&feature=related
"Come, O Thou King of Kings" Hymn #59
1. Come, O thou King of Kings!
Weve waited long for thee,
With healing in thy wings,
To set thy people free.
Come, thou desire of nations, come;
Let Israel now be gathered home.
2. Come, make an end to sin,
And cleanse the earth by fire,
And righteousness bring in,
That Saints may tune the lyre
With songs of joy, a happier strain,
To welcome in thy peaceful reign.
3. Hosannas now shall sound
From all... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaZgZMVGsks&feature=related
"Come, O Thou King of Kings" Hymn #59
1. Come, O thou King of Kings!
Weve waited long for thee,
With healing in thy wings,
To set thy people free.
Come, thou desire of nations, come;
Let Israel now be gathered home.
2. Come, make an end to sin,
And cleanse the earth by fire,
And righteousness bring in,
That Saints may tune the lyre
With songs of joy, a happier strain,
To welcome in thy peaceful reign.
3. Hosannas now shall sound
From all... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 19 This is film about the the events that lead up to the restoration of the
gospel of Jesus Christ nearly two thousand years after the virgin birth,
baptism, ministry, miracles, crucifixion, resurrection and ascension into
heaven of Jesus Christ, as directed by Heavenly Father in preparation for
Christ's Second coming.
The restoration was prophesied of by God's prophets in both the Old and New
Testaments in the Holy Bible never to be taken again from the earth until
Jesus Christ returns again and p... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 20 研究美国近代民权运动发展史，或研究美国穆斯林历史者，不可能不研究既具有代表性
也具有争议性的马尔科姆.艾克斯。
马尔科姆.艾克斯出身草莽，自小备受种族歧视之苦。根据他自己的《马尔科姆.艾克
斯自传(The Autobiography of Malcolm X)》说，他的父亲艾尔.里图(Earl Little)与
叔父都是被美国三K党(Ku Klux Klan)谋杀致死的，母亲路易莎.诺顿(Louisa Norton)被
吓成了神经病。
在马尔科姆.艾克斯死后才出版的《马尔科姆.艾克斯自传》是美国近代民权运动史上
的大事。该书由马尔科姆.艾克斯口述，亚历克斯.哈利(Alex Haley)执笔。受了马尔科
姆.艾克斯精神感染，亚历克斯.哈利在为马尔科姆.艾克斯写完了这本口述自传后，又以
自己的家族历史为背景，写出了另外一本振经全球的经典巨著《根(Roots)》。
《根》共卖出了超过六百五十万册，翻译成三十种文字，改编最高成收视率的电视连
续剧，得奖无数。《马尔科姆.艾克斯自传》出版后，受到了美国主流社会的器重和肯定
，《时报杂志(Time)》高价评论该书是〝本世纪十本最重... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 21 Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
by Matt Slick
There's a lot of discussion about Mormon beliefs. So, in order to make this
easy, I will list out what Mormonism actually teaches. These are not sensati
onalized, and inaccurate statements.
Following documentation from Mormon authors. Finally, please understand tha
t the Mormon Church uses Christian terms but has radically changed the meani
ngs of those terms. So, when it says that Mormons belief in the father the
son and the Holy Spirit, they ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 22 Thomas S. Monson
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints
---talk on Genearal conference Oct.2011
http://lds.org/general-conference/2010/10/the-divine-gift-of-gr
A grateful heart … comes through expressing gratitude to our Heavenly
Father for His blessings and to those around us for all that they bring into
our lives.
My beloved brothers and sisters, we have heard inspired messages of truth,
of hope, and of love. Our thoughts have turned to Him who atoned for our
sins, who sh... 阅读全帖 |
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m****r
发帖数: 1904 | 23 摘自《以色列百科全书》
PHARAOH AND THE EGYPTIANS IN THE AGGADAH
Influence of Jew’s Experience in Roman Egypt.
Figure1. Pharaoh bathing in the blood of Hebrew children in order to cure
his leprosy (Ex.R 1:34). Woodcut from the Prague Haggadah,1526. Jerusalem, J
.N.U.L.
Leper Motif. Leprosy figures repeatedly in the punishments inflicted or
threatened on the Egyptians. The Pharaoh of the oppression became a leper
and sought to cure himself by bathing in the blood of Hebrew children
specially slain for th... 阅读全帖 |
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G****e
发帖数: 11198 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖 |
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n********n
发帖数: 8336 | 25 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: neohorizon (horizon), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 我喜爱的基督徒乐队Jays Of Clay (ZT)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 4 15:24:45 2015, 美东)
我喜爱的基督徒乐队Jays Of Clay
送交者: 雪梅 2015年01月02日05:58:53
神圣的国度，
永远的家乡，
还有心中的异象。
如何冲得开，
如何闯的过，
现实诱惑和抵挡？
疯狂的工作，
拼命的享乐，
为了多少的虚妄。
肉体的欲望，
眼目的欲望，
还有心中的张狂。
叫嚷！
蒙着眼睛，
不敢再看那双带着钉痕的双手。
举起双手，
再次呼求恩典救赎与力量。
我在这挣扎中
记得两年前的一段时间，由于工作上压力大，我的心情非常低落。那时在YOUTUBE找了
不少老歌来听。一天早上，我在脑子里面不断重复播放一个忧伤，悲怆，又激荡的旋律
。不由让我想起这些年在追求主的道路上的痛苦与挣扎，孤单与寂寞。我忍不住悲从中
来。这之后我就为那旋律添上了以上的这些词。（旋律来... 阅读全帖 |
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n********n
发帖数: 8336 | 26 http://hinduism.about.com/od/lordkrishna/a/christ_krishna.htm
Despite their differences, Hinduism and Christianity have great
similarities . And this is particularly prominent in the case of the life
and teachings of the two central figures of these world religions — Christ
and Krishna .
Similarities in just the names of Christ and Krishna have enough fuel
for the curious mind to prod into the proposition that they were indeed one
and the same person. Although there is little historical evid... 阅读全帖 |
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j******g
发帖数: 499 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 Music 讨论区 】
发信人: jayzhang (desperado 想念), 信区: Music
标 题: 试着翻了一下这首圣诞歌曲
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 8 02:06:03 2007), 转信
http://www.sharebig.com/share.php?id=s11hlmqskjp7Wz8H9
我觉得我真假声转换控制的很不好，而且话筒摆脱不了刺刺拉拉的噪音，不知道为什么
这首歌也许对我来说太难了吧。发音有时候也控制不好。
God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen
God rest ye merry, gentlemen,
Let nothing you dismay
Remember Christ our Savior
Was born on Christmas Day
To save us all from Satan's power
When we were gone astray.
O tidings of comfort and joy,
Comfort and joy
O tidings of |
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N****f
发帖数: 25759 | 29 Personally, I don't think much of this "controversy." If we really
want to get offended, there are a lot worse things to be
offended for. And I don't think this rises up to the level of
favoring Tibetan independence. If there is something worth
picking on in this rather silly piece, it is that global savior
mentality shared by many Americans. Then again, for a
company that is trying to expend its business in China, it
certainly is a strange angle to launch a high-profile marketing
campaign. ... 阅读全帖 |
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d***o
发帖数: 761 | 30 http://bigthink.com/book-think/what-are-the-best-poems-of-the-p
What Are the Best Poems of the Past 25 Years?
Austin Allen on July 24, 2012, 12:30 AM
In 2006 the New York Times asked a select group of literary sages: “What’s
the best work of American fiction of the last 25 years?” The results of
the poll stirred chatter, passions, and healthy controversy. Toni Morrison’
s Beloved emerged as the voters' favorite, followed by Don DeLillo’s
Underworld, Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian, and John Upd... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******s
发帖数: 758 | 31 you may watch a movie with name "bolt". --- from a Hollywood dog to a
regular dog.
I stress my philosophy again: 爱情是锦上添花，不是雪中送炭. This summary
comes from my own experience and my own pain.
自己的根本问题解决了，才会有深刻、丰富的感情生活。当然，感情经历是能催人成熟
的。
总之，爱情永远不是解决自己问题的办法，lovers from opposite sex never be
saviors.
人两个动力: driven by pain/fear(成熟之前), or driven by motivator(成熟之后).
很多人经历了苦痛害怕恐惧，才长大了，才了悟。你在经历通过男女感情来解决个人
终极目标的失败经历之后，会有痛苦，希望早日成长，因为 一个不成熟的人，not
ready for a good relationship, will hurt other ignorant girls, in s |
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v********6
发帖数: 30 | 32 来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - 我这算抑郁吗 没想过死，因为我知道我死了，老爸老妈就疯了， 就算为他们活着
越来越不喜欢认识新人， 比如大家聚会玩杀人游戏什么的，我怎么就觉得一点都没意
思呢， 我就是自己呆着觉得挺好
觉得生活没有意义， 因为没人爱， 除了爸妈。我就是在感觉有人爱的时候觉得生活很
好，好像savior，可是因为种种原因就又走了
经常觉得生活太痛苦了， 自己很可怜
我吃药，st john‘s wort， 觉得很管用。但是经常觉得明明不开心没为什么要吃那个
让自己开心呢， 于是不吃，就自己郁闷 |
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v********6
发帖数: 30 | 33 来自主题: PsychoAnalysis版 - 我这算抑郁吗 一周会锻炼至少3次，
跑步就是心情不好的时候，跑的就好， 很郁闷， 越想自己可怜越悲情，就跑的快，（
很搞的）
但是有时候忙啊， 不能天天锻炼啊
我做饭还可以， 就请朋友来吃， 他们在的时候我觉得还好， 一走 我就突然觉得，一
下子就又一个人了， 又空了的感觉
不知道这世界上到底有没有我真正的savior |
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p*******y
发帖数: 782 | 35 what is most mysterious about the Bible is that all the prophesies in the
Old Testament about the savior Jesus were all fulfilled in the New Testament! |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 36 (此文根据网上资料编辑而成，非原创）
圣经里说了，耶稣是唯一之路：
John 14:6 "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the
Father except through me."
Isaiah 45:21 "There is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior;
there is none but me."
这使得基督教具有极大的排他性。"According to an article by Daniel Taylor in
Christianity Today, many Americans consider the worst sin to be intolerance.
And guess who are the worst sinners, at least in the minds of many
Americans? Evangelical Christians!"
http://www.preaching.com/reso |
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l*****d
发帖数: 754 | 37 In the bible, eternal life is not just our human life being
extended to eternity, but God's life in us.
Our human life, after Adam's fall, is a perishing life with all
negative elements and the end is death.
God's life is always new, perfect in every way. When we receive
Jesus as our savior, Christ becomes our life (Col. 3:4), as Paul
declared, "it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me"
(Gal. 2:20).
Dear friends, today we are not asking you to follow a religion,
to obey different ru |
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B********e
发帖数: 19317 | 38
based on the above logic, master Li must be truly the only savior. |
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D*****y
发帖数: 5788 | 39 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
wizkeen (wizkeen) 于 (Sat Aug 8 15:36:32 2009, 美东) 提到:
以前只觉得有些歌听着很不舒服，刚刚无意中看到了一篇文章 Satan's Music
撒旦的权势无所不在，基督徒们真的要警醒。
下面是链接，请祷告之后再看，求主给我们智慧认清撒旦在这个世代的作为
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/devils_music.htm
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jym2307 (大发热心的以利亚) 于 (Sat Aug 8 15:44:53 2009, 美东) 提到:
其实新时代运动初期，就有一些弟兄姐妹提醒，要分辨
新时代（new age）的音乐，有很多冥想的东西
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leonany (Cagalli Yula Athha) 于 (Sat Aug |
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s**********e
发帖数: 449 | 40 谢谢分享, 是没什么好办法, 我常常用下面的经文提醒自己:
Titus3
3For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to
various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated
by others and hating one another. 4But when the goodness and loving kindness
of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of works done by us
in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of
regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us
richly through Jesus Chris |
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t*********r
发帖数: 122 | 41 Welcome to The church in Houston
In addition to a big group of caucasian，some hispanic, and black, there are
a large number of Chinese saints.
http://www.churchinhouston.org/
The church in Houston, Texas warmly welcomes you. We are believers in the
Lord Jesus Christ who have personally received Him as our Savior. He is the
most excellent and enjoyable Person. We love Him and endeavor to give Him
the first place in all things. We rejoice to be cleansed by the blood of
Jesus, God’s Son, born again |
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h*****k
发帖数: 5022 | 42 I hear the Savior say,
“Thy strength indeed is small;
Child of weakness, watch and pray,
Find in Me thine all in all.”
Refrain:
Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.
For nothing good have I
Whereby Thy grace to claim;
I’ll wash my garments white
In the blood of Calv’ry’s Lamb.
And now complete in Him,
My robe, His righteousness,
Close sheltered ’neath His side,
I am divinely blest.
Lord, now indeed I find
Thy pow’r, and Thine alone,
Can ch |
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j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 43 代发
Amazing Grace歌曲的簡單介紹：
還有部叫"Amazing Grace"的電影，是關於William Wilberforce廢除黑奴交易的傳記性
電影。
當地的圖書館都能借到:
Title:
Amazing grace [videorecording (DVD)]
Subjects:
Wilberforce, William, 1759-1833.
Newton, John, 1725-1807.
Great Britain--History--18th century.
Antislavery movements--Great Britain.
Biographical films.
我非常喜歡影片中John Newton對William說的一句話，，相信也是每個基督徒的心繫：
'I'm old; my memory is fading. I remember two things quite clearly: I am a
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w*****e
发帖数: 226 | 44 嗯，讲解一下为什么基督和基督教不相干吧。
信基督和信教我倒是觉得确实因个人观点而异。
至于信，我觉得其实复杂也简单。
完全可以简单到Jesus is our savior上。
这个共识信基督的我还没见过有很大不一样的认识的。 |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 45 这个“信”字，有“信心”的意思，有你说的“奉主”的意思，
有“笃信（圣经）”的意思，都是不同的。
对神有信心而独行于地上的人未必奉主（take Jesus as the savior）
这一类可能是最珍贵的。
奉主的未必笃信圣经，这一类人大概最多。有时候，教会长老都得
把圣经中的一些部分弃而不讲，或者说这是特定历史下的例子，
这是比喻等等，这种情况大家都遇到过吧。:)
一字一句笃信圣经的往往被当作邪教，比如耶证。其实耶证只是人比较多
活动比较积极而已。美国有几十个大的教派，几百上千个小的教派。
旧约讲得多的，就会被叫做fundamentalist，要求按旧约行事的，
就直接称邪教了。:) 我举个例子，2008年总统候选人Huckabee的观点
恐怕很多华人教会都接受不了，呵呵。 |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 46 如果只是“习惯不同”，就不会有那么多年你死我活的事情了
当年天主教把新教徒可是当异端来砍的。就在美国早期，
南方教会和北方教会的争斗也是血淋淋的。
说白了，现在的教会都比较不那么严肃，不那么一字一句，不那么较真。
求同存异，用人性掩盖神性，才没那么多冲突。你看耶证那种，别管他们
理解得对不对，对圣经的态度和对生活的要求严格程度放在那里，不能否认。
你想象一下各个教会都跟耶证那么较真，肯定冲突不断。
严格的按圣经说，Jesus除了是savior，还是lord，还是the bridge，
对应生活里三大块守则。现在有很多人守吗？呵呵。区别只有较真时候才有，
不较真就是找个心理安慰--也就是你说的，基督徒需要神，基督徒需要教会。
别误解我，我觉得不较真也挺好的。只是基督徒所需要的神，和圣经里的神，
和真正的神，三者是有区别的，混一起那就太打酱油了。:) |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 47 你说“当然如果你否认最基本的爱和神的角色，就和任何
一个基督徒都没有共同语言了”，这句话可未必对 :)
为“最基本的爱和神的角色”打得你死我活的就是基督教徒，
你说他们有没有共同语言？:)
你把和你有共同语言的定义为基督徒，在我看来，那不过是和
你近似派别的基督教徒而已。现代基督教徒之间不你死我活，
不等于他们对“最基本的爱和神的角色”有认同。只是不争了。
不说别的，就说savior, lord, the bridge，强调的不一样，
对神的解释也差得远了。
要理性对待神，理解神在生活里的作用，生命里的作用。
事实上全世界各地对神的理解和阐释，那真是千奇百怪，
但是信仰神（不等于基督教也不等于基督教会）对人的
作用，大致是一样的。不需要论断神，这些对所有人
大致一样的作用（不包括千奇百怪因人而异的灵恩或者神迹）
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n*********0
发帖数: 925 | 48 http://www.glorypress.com/devotional/FaithAndLifeOneYearBook.asp?bid=3
主是磁石
经文: 「我若从地上被举起来，就要吸引万人来归我。」（约翰福音十二︰32）
主的仆人，别气馁，你若害怕不能吸引人来接受福音，试着传讲耶稣受死，被
钉十架，复活的信息，因为这是福音最精彩、最吸引人的部份。什么吸引你信奉基督教
？难道不是耶稣自己﹖若你是因为其他的原因而信基督教，相信你不久就会离开这道；
若非是上帝的大爱感动你的心，你是不会持之以恒，坚守这个信仰到底。因此，为何怀
疑福音的力量？奉耶稣的名，到那些顽固的人群当中，单单传讲耶稣自己，看看是否祂
会改变人心，吸引人归向祂﹖
这福音本是上帝的大能，要救一切相信祂的人。无论老少贫富，无论有学问的
，没知识的，温和的，暴躁的──所有的人都无法抗拒这力量，耶稣是个大磁石。不是
美妙的诗歌，精彩的讲道，或是教堂的气氛吸引人信主，吸引人的乃是耶稣本身；耶稣
是一切圣工的核心，离了祂，一切所做的不过是草木禾秸。身为主的工人，要学习体察
上帝的心意，按着上帝的方式... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 49 AD HOMINEM
AD HOMINEM
Latin for "to the man".
This is attacking the arguer and not the argument.
Example: The Reverend is a known Biblical fundamentalist, so her objections
to evolution need not be taken seriously.
Example 2: That Biblical scholar is saying such and such because he doesn’t
know Jesus as his personal savior.
Care must be taken to state problems with a person’s argument instead of
attacking the person.
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STRAW MAN
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发帖数: 925 | 50 http://www.glorypress.com/devotional/FaithAndLifeOneYearBook.asp?bid=3
主是灵粮
经文: 「永活的父怎样差我来，我又因父活着；照样，吃我肉的人也要因我活着。」（
约翰福音六︰57）
我们借着与上帝的儿子联合而活；而神子耶稣又是靠着差祂来的天父而活。同
理，我们也是靠着苏醒我们灵魂的耶稣而活。祂是我们生命的源头；也是支持我们活力
的补品。我们属灵的生命，需要属灵粮食的供给，而这灵粮就是耶稣自己；不是祂的生
命、祂的死亡、祂的工作、或祂的话，而是祂自己，当然，祂就包括了一切。耶稣是我
们的灵粮吗哪。
主的肉是可吃的，主的血是可喝的，这意义在主的圣餐擘饼聚会中可表征出来
；事实上，当我们借着默想主自己，运用信心相信祂，借着爱的回应思念主名，将上帝
内化到我们的生命，就是享受主自己。我们了解吃主的肉，喝主的血是怎样的滋味，但
我们说不出来，也写不出来。这种只可意会不能言传的感受，惟有亲身去做，才能体尝
那种甘甜。上帝邀我们来享受这丰盛的宴席，祂自己就是取之不尽，用之不竭的补给站。
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