O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 1 你也就是纠缠这种鸡毛蒜皮的东西
有时间去读读 WSJ 今天的一篇文章
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" during
the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found religion
through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 1991 and walked
down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.
The title of Mr. Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from one of
Wright's sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the |
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发帖数: 2230 | 2 here, those DVD are sold at the church.
You don't think they make DVDs for each sermon and sell them, right? It is r
easonable to assume only those that are representative are sold by the churc
h.
我估计是就那一次，不然FOX早挖出来了。关键是如果我没去那次礼拜而媒体又不暴出
来的化，我很有可能根本不知道那次礼拜牧师都讲了些啥。我如果不知道的话我又怎么
去反对这种言论呢
我一个月才挣1000刀，典型的单身CHEAP的WSN一个，您就别敲诈我了
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发帖数: 2230 | 3 喜欢牧师意味着和他的政治见解完全相左？
现在不是已经挖出来的吗， 你想看到啥。
他过去20年（20年）几个小时的sermon每天FOX放一集， 这样你才能被convinced？ |
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发帖数: 5245 | 4 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545277093135111.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Obama and the Minister
By RONALD KESSLER
March 14, 2008; Page A19
Hearing Mr. Wright's venomous and paranoid denunciations of this country,
the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. Obama and his
wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous similar sermons by Mr.
Wright.
Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" during
the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama |
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发帖数: 462 | 5 where is denouce, reject ?
years
Bles |
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a****g
发帖数: 211 | 6 Go Obama,
A US government of the black, by the black and for the black. |
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 7 just words...how about some action...stop going there... |
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发帖数: 2242 | 8 那个牧师已经退休了，现在是另外一个人，他当然可以继续去 |
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发帖数: 14069 | 11 他就是故意来捣乱的，现代哪有教堂教仇恨的道理。这种人不要理他就好了。 |
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发帖数: 5245 | 12 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4452990&page=2
Obama Disagrees With 'God Damn America' Sermon, But Defends Pastor
By BRIAN ROSS and REHAB EL-BURI, ABC News
March 14, 2008
In a statement to ABCNews.com yesterday, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton
said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this
have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from
a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think
of the pastor of his |
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发帖数: 77 | 13 And even if he didn't attended all the "controversial" sermon,
how about his wife, how about his daughters?
didn't they ever mention to him ? didn't he buy the VCD
because he was absent?
I bet Obama is busy destorying Wright's Vcds right now.
mentor
defending |
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发帖数: 5255 | 14 "And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love
God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at
every turn."
obama这就是在撒谎，那pastor哪里是在宣扬love one another，全部都是hate啊。 |
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发帖数: 5245 | 15 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/on_my_faith_and_my_church.html
March 14, 2008
On My Faith and My Church
Barack Obama
The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his
last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm
over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some
inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics,
and my political opponents.
Let me say at the outset that I vehemently dis |
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发帖数: 2230 | 16 20年， 20年，
obama don't know the person he calls a mentor? you got to be kidding me.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/on_my_faith_and_my_church.html
March 14, 2008
On My Faith and My Church
Barack Obama
The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his
last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm
over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some
inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our |
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发帖数: 77 | 17 Obama already jumped out and "condemned" his pastor's
"controversial" speeches. But that is not enough.
He didn't explain why he kept their relationship
for so long. The only possible explaination that
will work for him is that the pastor has two-face.
when He gave speeches without Obama attending, he
gave hateful speeches. and when Obama wass around
the sermons, he gave peaceful and non-controversial
speeches. That is kinda hard to work on.
With that tight relationship like Obama and Wright,
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发帖数: 367 | 20 Yes--that is correct. Technically according to the protestant beliefs,
Church should not interfere with state and vice versa--
Literally your pastor should not talk about politics at all in church at
least not during sermons.
But your pastor is a lot more important and personal to you than your
political advisors--because he/she is the person that is suppose to help you
take care of your soul.
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发帖数: 44 | 22 THANKS to his pastor Jeremiah Wright.
"He also gave a sermon in December comparing Obama to Jesus, promoting his
candidacy and playing down Clinton."
Hillary, now let's focus on beating McCain!!! |
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发帖数: 5245 | 23 By now everyone has seen some of the exceedingly provocative clips from
Mr. Wright's (Obama's pastor) sermons. As an Obama supporter I am
assailed by the following questions/confusions regarding the fallout of
this episode. I have tried my hardest (believe me it's been excruciatingly
hard) to objectively confront the implications of our candidate's
relationship with his pastor. I persuaded myself to face these
questions by telling myself that one is nothing if one is not
intellectually honest:
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发帖数: 77 | 24 也不算审问，就是给Obama一个辩解的机会。
Obama既然说he would quit if he heard this kinda rheteric
repeatedly。 下面的任务其实就是把Wright的Sermons
跟Obama联系起来， 怎样确定Obama参加教堂活动的时间
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发帖数: 36 | 26 TaylorMarsh上的一个comment:
'd love to see a skit where Obama is watching a Wright sermon that is
nothing but love and peace talk. He has to get up to go to the bathroom. As
soon as he leaves, Wright launches into one of his tirades. When Obama comes
back Wright starts talking nice again. This could go on for 20 years in the
skit.
Have you noticed Obama is never around when he might have to take a stand?
Mawm | 03.15.2008 - 08:11 am | #
http://www.taylormarsh.com/comments.php?postID=27233 |
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发帖数: 438 | 27 Several things I want to make as simple as I could for you to understand:
1. Promoting political agenda in public sermon is against the law in U.S.
and should be stripped tax-exempt status.
2. It is downright wrong for a pastor to promote hatred in the church.
3. It is racism to stereotype Hillary Clinton as white and rich, therefore
evil. As matter of fact, they have been REALLY good to AA communities in the
past.
4. He is telling numerous lies in the short clips. Obama went to the most
privile |
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发帖数: 61 | 29 前几天大爷说美国人应该把奥巴马的费城讲话纳入中学教科书。今天看了纽约时报的文
章，完全一致.
The New York Times this morning reported that:
Universities were moving to incorporate the issues Mr. Obama raised into
classroom discussions and course work, and churches were trying to find ways
to do the same in sermons and Bible studies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/us/politics/20race.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |
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l******d
发帖数: 5255 | 32 i don't know.看事情多大吧。
这事情牵扯到jim和obama两个人的声誉：到底谁在撒谎？谁撒谎谁人格破产。
如果闹到两个人电视台对质，谁也说服不了谁,那恐怕就要找证人对质了（jim举了证，
说当时secret service在场。secret service是最好的证人）。
“Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during
Senator Obama's attendance. Mr. Davis' story was first published on Newsmax
on August 9, 2007. Shortly before publication, Mr. Davis contacted the press
office of Sen. Obama several times for comment about the Senator's
attendance and Rev. Wright's comments during his sermon. The Senat |
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发帖数: 462 | 34 The Origin of Obama's Pastor Problem
Thursday, Mar. 20, 2008 By JAMES CARNEY AND AMY SULLIVAN
Long before the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright became instant hits on Y
ouTube and talk-show fodder for the cable news channels, Barack Obama knew h
e had a preacher problem. On the eve of launching his campaign for the White
House in February 2007, Obama abruptly withdrew an invitation to Wright to
deliver the invocation at his announcement speech in Springfield, Ill. Wrigh
t had been Obama's past |
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m*****n
发帖数: 5245 | 35 奥巴马在他的自传《我父亲的梦想》一书中提到，
他第一次参加莱特牧师的布道，
内容就是“白人的贪婪导致一个半球的种族隔离和另一个半球的漠然不顾”。
和小左们一样，在书中奥巴马对此是深表赞同的，
就看选民是怎么判断这样的奥巴马了。
http://www.slate.com/id/2187358/
"White Man's Greed"
Obama's very first service at Wright's church was ... controversial.
By Mickey Kaus
Updated Friday, March 28, 2008, at 3:35 PM ET
On his radio show yesterday, Hugh Hewitt played excerpts of Barack Obama
reading from his autobiography, Dreams of My Father. In one, Obama remembers
a sermon by Rev. Jeremiah Wright:
[T]he pastor descri |
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发帖数: 10233 | 36 想当年克小草惜败bush完全是因为美国红脖子的信仰,那这一次我敢说,如果(是如果啊,
Ofan们,别瞎砸啊)Obama最终输了最后的大选,那肯定会是因为美国红脖子的爱国.
呵呵...ABC真是太可耻了,为了打击obama的爱国形象,用了一招叫双管齐下.
第一管:直接打击.
大家仔细看看这主持人都问的什么鸟舌子问题啊?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator, two questions. Number one, do you think
Reverend Wright loves America as much as you do? And number two, if you get
the nomination, what will you do when those sermons are played on television
again and again and again?
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MR. GIBSON: And Senator Obama, I want to do one more question, which goes to
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发帖数: 5245 | 37 看看怀特牧师是怎么说的吧：
关于奥巴马对他的疏远：
"Politicians say what they say and do what they do because of electability,"
Wright said, arguing that Obama had not seen the sermons played in the
media that Obama has called "offensive." "He had to distance himself because
he's a politician...Whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have
to be answerable to God."
关于媒体对他的批评：
"This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright," the minister said. "It is an
attack on the black church." He positioned himself as a mainstr |
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发帖数: 6327 | 38 Wsj.com
Obama Says He's Outraged
By Former Pastor's Comments
Associated Press
April 29, 2008 2:23 p.m.
HICKORY, N.C. -- Democrat Barack Obama says he was outraged by the comments
of his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and saddened by the spectacle of
his appearance Monday.
Rev. Wright said Monday that criticism surrounding his fiery sermons is an
attack on the black church.
Sen. Obama told reporters Tuesday that Rev. Wright's comments don't
accurately portray the perspective of the black ch |
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发帖数: 2249 | 39 Barack Obama and his wife Michelle have resigned their membership at the
Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, after controversies stemming
from the church created a persistent distraction for Obama’s campaign.
Obama said Saturday that he made the decision with “some sadness,” but
that he had been discussing it with his family for “quite some time” and
that he did not want to be a continuing burden on the congregation.
The furor started months ago with the sermons of his former pastor, Rev |
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发帖数: 50 | 40 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090701465.html
Palin's pastor urges flock to pray for the media
By MARTHA MENDOZA
The Associated Press
Sunday, September 7, 2008; 4:33 PM
WASILLA, Alaska -- A little sermon about _ and for _ the messenger seemed to
Pastor Larry Kroon an appropriate message on Sunday morning.
"It's been an interesting week," laughed Kroon, pastor at the Wasilla Bible
Church, as he welcomed attendees. The nondenominational congregation where
Rep |
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发帖数: 5794 | 41 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95003709
Pastors To Preach Politics From The Pulpit
by Barbara Bradley Hagerty
Listen Now [4 min 48 sec] add to playlist
Enlarge
Jeremy Swinborne
This weekend, 33 ministers are expected to preach a sermon that endorses or
opposes a political candidate by name. This would be a flagrant violation of
a 54-year-old law that bans tax-exempt organizations from involvement in po
litical campaigns. iStockphoto.com
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发帖数: 29846 | 42 Liberals never tire of discussing their own generosity, particularly when
demanding that the government take your money by force to fund shiftless
government employees overseeing counterproductive government programs.
They seem to have replaced "God" with "Government" in scriptural phrases
such as "love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul,
and with all your mind." (Matthew 22:37)
This week, we'll take a peek at the charitable giving of these champions of
the poor.
In 20... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 43 Paul A. Rahe · Feb. 10 at 5:21pm
You have to hand it to Barack Obama. He has unmasked in the most
thoroughgoing way the despotic propensities of the administrative
entitlements state and of the Democratic Party. And now he has done
something similar to the hierarchy of the American Catholic Church. At the
prospect that institutions associated with the Catholic Church would be
required to offer to their employees health insurance covering contraception
and abortifacients, the bishops, priests,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 44 By Albin Sadar
The first time I became aware of anybody's skin color was at age five in
kindergarten. My mom had come to pick up me and my twin brother, and one of
her girlfriends noticed that we were friends with one of the black kids in
the school. My mom's girlfriend remarked, "Isn't that sweet? They're
friends with a little black boy."
Even at five I found that remark unusual -- or maybe it was because I was
five. My brother and I played with kids because we connected on a "fun"
level. ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 45 By Rick Richman
On May 7, Geoffrey Norman posted "Today's Laugh Line" at National Review
Online -- a quote from a column by Mark Halperin in Time asserting Mitt
Romney has "the luxury of an open schedule" allowing him to "spend every
waking hour as a full-time candidate," while President Obama "is required to
do his day job."
It was even funnier if one looked at President Obama's May 7 schedule. Here
was his schedule that day, in its entirety, with all events taking place in
the Oval Office:
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发帖数: 29846 | 46 By EDWARD KLEIN
Last Updated: 1:43 PM, May 13, 2012
Posted: 11:14 PM, May 12, 2012
When sermons of Obama’s Chicago pastor, Jeremiah Wright, surfaced during
the Iowa primaries, it threatened to derail Obama’s campaign. ABC aired one
where Wright screamed, “Goddamn America!” Edward Klein interviewed Wright
, who told him Obama’s team tried to buy his silence.
‘Man, the media ate me alive,” Wright told me when we met in his office at
Chicago’s Kwame Nkrumah Academy. “After the media went ballistic ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 47 by Rick aka Mr. Brutally Honest
At least not as strongly.
Back in 2008, this blog covered the writings of a site called Clergy for
Obama, a site that has now gone private (which is revealing in and of itself
). It was chock filled with one religious leftist post after another
singing the praises of then Senator Obama and the hope and change he
promised to bring the country.
Many of those voices, or certainly voices like those who posted, are
apparently not quite as enamored with The Won today.
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发帖数: 29846 | 48 Posted 06/20/2012 07:01 PM ET
The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be
his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now
he's been caught lying about family racism.
In "Dreams from My Father," his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his
paternal grandfather's imprisonment and torture at the hands of British
colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein
Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before bei... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 49 By: Ann Coulter
7/4/2012 01:01 PM
It has become fashionable to equate the French and American revolutions, but
they share absolutely nothing beyond the word “revolution.” The American
Revolution was a movement based on ideas, painstakingly argued by serious
men in the process of creating what would become the freest, most prosperous
nation in world history.
The French Revolution was a revolt of the mob. It was the primogenitor of
the horrors of the Bolshevik revolution, Hitler’s Nazi Party, M... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 50 July 11, 2012 by Warner Todd Huston
Are you a patriotic American that thinks that our American way of life is in
danger? Are you a Tea Partier? If so, Obama’s Department of Homeland
Security (DHS) wants you to know that you might be a terrorist. Or, at least
, the DHS wants to characterize you as a potential terrorist, anyway.
Once again the DHS is warning that believing in American exceptionalism or
hailing from the right side of American politics is a dangerous thing, just
as they did in 2009... 阅读全帖 |
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