G***G 发帖数: 16778 | 1 3 1/2 vs 2 3/4 shotshells
哪个贵? |
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e***s 发帖数: 1397 | 2 Summary: Best choice is 12GA pump shotgun, loaded with #1 buckshot.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm
Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition
(Tactical Briefs #10, October 1998)
For home defense, a shotgun is superior to a handgun in terms of being able
to stop a violent intruder as quickly as possible. A reliable, well-made,
pump-action shotgun can usually be purchased for less than the cost of a
handgun of comparable quality. Also, inexpensive birdshot ammunition,
typically used for trainin... 阅读全帖 |
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l***a 发帖数: 2677 | 3 刚讨论过
http://www.chuckhawks.com/home_defense_shotgun_ammo.htm
"Number 1 buck is the smallest diameter shot that reliably and consistently
penetrates more than 12 inches of standard ordnance gelatin when fired at
typical shotgun engagement distances. A standard 2 -inch 12 gauge shotshell
contains 16 pellets of #1 buck. The total combined cross sectional area of
the 16 pellets is 1.13 square inches. Compared to the total combined cross
sectional area of the nine pellets in a standard #00 (double-au... 阅读全帖 |
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c******k 发帖数: 237 | 6 RedHead Stock Shellhold - 5 RDS shotshells $4.99
RedHead Shotshell Belt - 25 RDS shotshells $9.99 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 7 Remington STS and STS Nitro shotshells $7.98/box at Dicks. (1300fps, 1-1/8oz)
also eligible for $2/box mail rebate from remington.
This is a $9/box ammo online or in walmart.
Winchester AA $7.98/box, eligible for $2/box rebate from Winchester
Remington GunClub shotshells, $5.49/box. |
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a*****9 发帖数: 805 | 8 靶场有个哥们搞了把用shotshell primer来发射BB的超轻型步枪,而且这玩意在我们州
都不算firearm, 这玩意很有意思啊。。break barrel装好shotshell primer, 然后从
枪口装BB, clock trigger,放!25yd, 很准,50 yd就飘开10 inches.... |
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a***a 发帖数: 8941 | 9 That is weird.
I bought a couple of box of PDX1 ammo, in both 9mm and 40SW.
I shot both of them, through my Steyr M40A1 and P7M8, never got any problem.
BTW, I always use Winchester shotshells for my shotgun, and I do not
remember they gave me any big problem.
But I do remember Federal shotshells gave some problem to guys guns. |
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a***a 发帖数: 8941 | 10 That is weird.
I bought a couple of box of PDX1 ammo, in both 9mm and 40SW.
I shot both of them, through my Steyr M40A1 and P7M8, never got any problem.
BTW, I always use Winchester shotshells for my shotgun, and I do not
remember they gave me any big problem.
But I do remember Federal shotshells gave some problem to guys guns. |
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S**********s 发帖数: 4534 | 12 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 老海军请进 How to use bow/crossbow to launch fishing hook in 3 easy steps:
1.mount the lead weight onto the shaft of arrow/bolt however you can;
2.tie the arrow down with a separate short piece of fishing line;
3.shoot arrow/bolt; arrow flies for a short distance and is tethered by the
fishing line while lead weight continues to fly down range.
i think you can mount an empty shotshell onto your arrow shaft, and just put
the lead weight in the shotshell. |
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P*******o 发帖数: 460 | 13 前段时间本版的版主friediceman搬家到印第安纳,离芝加哥只有几个小时的车程,一
直商量着在两地之间找个靶场见面认识认识。我新玩打飞碟不久,friediceman是此中
高手,有这样当面请教的机会,我自然是欣然而至。
昨天星期六一大早起来,驱车三个小时,来到普渡大学附近的Linden Conservation
Club。friediceman已经先到了,握手寒暄,见对方是个典型的西北大汉,比我高了足
足有半头。久仰版主的大名,听说有多年的枪龄,看他在版上的处事风格亦很干练公正
,一直以为是个四十开外的中年人,不料却是个很年青的小伙子,比我小了接近十岁,
暗自感慨真是英雄出少年。
friediceman告诉我:Linden Club当天有个小型的全自动武器展览,今天来的人都可以
免费试枪,他已经打过了。在Rifle Range里摆着一挺勃朗宁M1919机枪,还有几支二战
时期的轻机枪。我玩枪一年,还没摸过全自动的装备,自然是跃跃欲试。管枪的是个非
常友善的红脖子老大爷,先帮我上了两个弹夹共40发机枪子弹,我有心想试试传说中
的全自动,所以射击时有意扣住扳机不放,突突完了之后,看着远... 阅读全帖 |
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h*********n 发帖数: 11319 | 14 赞!如果容易的话我也想试试。
shotshell可以用。22来plinking玩,。22蛋壳又可以用来reload shotshell,真是个高
效的生态系统,哈哈 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 16 Midwesthuntersoutlet .com:
http://www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com/item/66966_Taurus_Handguns_
is offering the Taurus Judge 3" Magnum .45 LC and .410 3" Barrel for $376.
99 + FS. There will be an additional FFL cost at your local dealer.
Product Description:
Taurus International
Able to chamber both the 410 gauge 3 inch shotshell and the 45 Long Colt
round, the Taurus Judge is a new revolutionary idea in revolver technology.
Because the barrel is rifled, unlike a regular shotgun which is smooth... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 17 Lowest price so far. Gunbuyer.com has the Taurus Judge Magnum for only $299.
99 shipped to your FFL with no credit card fees. This model is able to
chamber the 3" shotshells instead of the standard 2.5" shells. Load up with
Winchester PDX1 shotshells and you will have a good car or home defence
weapon. Not a conceal carry gun unless you don't mind carrying a large gun
over 2 lbs not including ammo all day. I included a link to budsgunshop they
have a very good FFL finder with fee's listed which ... 阅读全帖 |
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 19 来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 这是什么? shotshell primer |
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x********n 发帖数: 1188 | 20 去买保险丝,顺带去弹药柜台转了下,发现比friediceman之前提到更便宜的散弹。
federal game load 25 shotshells/box $4.67 + tax
12 gauge 2.75inches 1oz shot 7.5 shot 3.25 DRAM EQ Muz Vel 1290FPS
还有一种8 shot的,同样的价钱。
另外,看见了GUNS & AMMO 的新书 THE COMPLETE BOOK OF THE MODEL 1911 THE
CENTENNIAL EDITION,琢磨着centennial editon 的枪是不一定消费的起了,就收本书
先过过干瘾吧 |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 21 http://tinyurl.com/23xjjsv
250发,$49.99
12Ga, 2 3/4",3 DR. EQ., 1Oz Shots, 7 1/2 shot size, 1235 FPS
今天购买超过$99可以使用$5 shipping coupon, 8XFLAT |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 22 别的地方不知道,这个价钱+运费,平均下来比在俺们这里的Wal-mart买还便宜。 |
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 23 我们这walmart,$20/100rd,好像差不多 |
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C*******r 发帖数: 10345 | 24 heading there after work. |
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d**********t 发帖数: 1821 | 26 就是这种
Manufacturer: CCI®
Model: Blazer Shotshell
Caliber: 38 Special/357 Remington Magnum
Manufacturer Number: 3709
Weight: 109 Grain
Bullet Type: #9 Shot
Muzzle Velocity: 1000 Feet Per Second
Usage: Short-Range Pest Control Under 15 Feet
Quantity: 10 Rounds Per Box
Warning: Do Not Use with Ported Barrels |
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h*******m 发帖数: 253 | 27 Try Taurus judge rather than shotshells for pistol. |
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M*******n 发帖数: 1165 | 28 前天去了一趟public land试了试remington 870 express 12ga 26'barrel的pattern,
打了些不能回收的水瓶,易拉罐什么的。
似乎3 inch的high speed的打鸟弹在10多米的地方wad才打开,3 inch的火鸡弹看没看
清不知道,但wad也似乎落得很远。
于是想问问版上Shotgun玩得多的老大们,
1.枪管长度对wad什么时候打开有影响吗?
2.如果wad没有打开,比如用high speed的鸟弹打10米以内的目标,是不是就没有杀伤
性了?
3.self-defense的shotshell似乎能在出枪口就能杀伤,是枪管短还是子弹就是这么设
计的?
多谢! |
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f**s 发帖数: 2225 | 29 我现在右手食指摩擦起来感觉有点那种擦破了刚长好了的皮肤的触觉
今天打了7盒shotshell. 一盒30-06,100发9mm
顶着大热天,自己踩trap thrower,汉流夹背的
用pump打双飞挺好玩的,一次上3发,不中可以补,现在越来越喜欢我的nova了,前几
天还yy super vinci呢,现在觉得没必要,如果有预算还有好多更好玩的可以上
30-06后作真tmd大,我的steyr pro hunter最好只能打2moa,应该是我打得不好,不适
应30-06的后座,那个塑料托太滥了,网上一搜发现好多人都说它烂,感觉不如tikka的 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 30 记得很清楚,我刚有第一把9mm的时候,
walmart的Remington UMC, $5.97, 50发, 买大点的包装,还能便宜些。
walmart的100发装的trap/skeet shot, $10.97!!!
就在去年还是16.97, 今天发现$22.98
倒是高端的shotshell, Remington STS, Winchester AA的涨幅这些年来没有那么大,
也就是$4.97/25rnd涨到$7.49的样子。
去年屯了很多子弹,今年打的时候都没怎么买过子弹,每次还算估计这一天子弹cost多
少,看来都估计错了啊,这玩意是期货,已经涨上去了啊!
看来是因为原材料cost,厂家也架不住啊,所以低端ammo涨啊涨得厉害。 高端的ammo
应该本来material cost的比重就小一些,所以影响小一点。 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 31 10%的excise tax我还是愿意付的,I am a hunter and fisherman.
Handgun ammo应该没这个税,可还是那么贵。 |
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N*********r 发帖数: 1190 | 34 半自动打飞碟一般都用gas operated, Benelli的recoil operated的长处是适用2-3/4-
--3-1/2"的子弹都不需要什么调整,但是后座力大,不适合打飞碟。飞碟经常一天打几
百枪,后坐力是那个时候才能“以小见大”的。
一般gas operated半自动都靠能够支持多种长度的shotshell来标榜自己,争夺市场。
飞碟全部用的都是2-3/4"的shell, 而且是light load, 所以专门的飞碟半自动设计成
适合cycle这种light load的,像remington1100,买个漂亮木把的,camo在那里会显得
格格不入。Beretta也有gas的专门打飞碟的枪,A391类的。 3-1/2说实在的,的确用不
上。
magazine tube太长会影响balance,chamber太长(3-1/2)据说会影响pattern,因为
pellet出来先碰到chamber尽头那里的坎,不过我pattern了一下我的枪,没觉得。
半自动击发之间总有气体啊,recoil spring啊,bolt啊在哪里猛烈的晃荡(cycle),
我能感觉出来,还是影响re... 阅读全帖 |
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o**d 发帖数: 3080 | 35 说到漫天花,昨天同去靶场的朋友租了.410 shotshell judge, 一枪就把拉登(最近
特流行的靶子)的头削去1/3,这个是不是护宅的候选之一? |
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a*****9 发帖数: 805 | 36 Buy one 50% off on 2nd one. Federal target load(Pink shell) 5.99 box, 4.5
avg./box |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 37 不错的deal,Federal Pink box我打过几盒,挺好的。 |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 39 昨天bass通报的,今天去我们这里的看了一下,应该是多数Dick's都有的deal。$4.98
一盒25发,还有一个10% off的coupon,7.5,8,9号的都有,很适合用来打飞碟。
今天扛了2箱回来,今年封枪前应该搞定了。。。 |
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b**s 发帖数: 4571 | 40 这个deal是nightrunner告诉我的。得感谢他。 |
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f********t 发帖数: 4574 | 41 mark for later,南加州的dicks们买弹药吗? |
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x*7 发帖数: 11281 | 42 没戏,我问过dick's的店员,那个男子用一种诧异的眼神看着我
说,加州的dick's都不买火器了 |
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b******o 发帖数: 5644 | 43
NJ的有长枪和各式弹药。怪不得CA禁枪第一,俺们第二。 |
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 45 不知道你们那边如何,我们这的Wal-mart的Remington Sports Load是$22.97/100发,
比这个差一些。 |
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w****o 发帖数: 783 | 48 老大你觉得我是不是也应该扛两箱,免得明年抓不到子弹?嘿嘿,,
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f*********n 发帖数: 11154 | 49 昨天bass通报的,今天去我们这里的看了一下,应该是多数Dick's都有的deal。$4.98
一盒25发,还有一个10% off的coupon,7.5,8,9号的都有,很适合用来打飞碟。
今天扛了2箱回来,今年封枪前应该搞定了。。。 |
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b**s 发帖数: 4571 | 50 这个deal是nightrunner告诉我的。得感谢他。 |
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