n****e 发帖数: 4990 | 1 期待kb vs oneal,k.Brown, Bynum, Phi等系列l
Smush Parker has hit back hard at Kobe Bryant, calling the Los Angeles
Lakers superstar a loner who looked down on his teammates.
Parker, responding to disparaging comments Bryant made about him Wednesday,
said Bryant was frequently standoffish during their two seasons as teammates.
“On road trips, he traveled with his security guards. Those were the guys
he talked to. On the team plane, he sat in the back of the plane by himself,
” Parker said in an intervi... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****e 发帖数: 236 | 2 这是炒作! 哈哈
期待kb vs oneal,k.Brown, Bynum, Phi等系列l
Smush Parker has hit back hard at Kobe Bryant, calling the Los Angeles
Lakers superstar a loner who looked down on his teammates.
Parker, responding to disparaging comments Bryant made about him Wednesday,
said Bryant was frequently standoffish during their two seasons as teammates.
“On road trips, he traveled with his security guards. Those were the guys
he talked to. On the team plane, he sat in the back of the plane by himself,
” Parker said in ... 阅读全帖 |
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h**********g 发帖数: 3962 | 3 Smush Parker: I tried to talk with him [Kobe] about football.
He tells me I can't talk to him.
Poor Smush, he should talk to LBJ about football.
He will become a much better basketball player by
being a teammate of LBJ, and talking about football.
What Kobe can do, is getting Smush Parker (spelling?)
media coverage by mentioning his name somewhere.
Kobe did not make Smush Parker a better player.
Kobe did not teach Smush Parker the art of flopping.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-don... 阅读全帖 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 4 这个没啥好争的,在我湖镀金出来的,都混上了好合同。
Ariza, Shannon, Smush. 这些人之前在其他球队都快混不下去了。
Ariza在魔术打不上,Smush跟日队签过10天合同没见Nash把它变好,
之后去跟wade混没两月被裁掉。Shannon跟蟹黄混过也是打不上。
反观周强生,没了Nash照样全明星。胖子呆了一年日队居然为了点
钱就白送。 |
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g***s 发帖数: 1268 | 5 本来ariza, Smush就不怎么样好不好。特别是smush,垃圾一个。比517好点。
gaysol本来就强。这个和rondo的理论差不多。别人核心防守放在老大上。老2,老3努
力点就可以出头。
在活塞也像模像样的。
咋样。 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 6 Ariza和Smush Parker都是看饮水机,到湖人实在没人可用,拿出来当主力,靠空位就
当当当刷个十几分,到其他team拿大合同去了。Smush离开湖人去了热,当季就被裁掉
,再没打上NBA,
大家可能忘了。
Kobe Bryant singled out Parker as a bad teammate, saying in 2012 that Parker
"shouldn't have been in the NBA, but we were too cheap to pay for a point
guard."
On July 26, 2007, Parker signed with the Miami Heat.[8] For the Heat, Parker
wore jersey number 21.[9] His production dropped off dramatically while
with the Heat, with averages of 4.8 points, 1.7 assists and 2.1 rebounds,
compared t... 阅读全帖 |
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k****n 发帖数: 938 | 9 现在湖人的现状是:
不是强队,如果勉强进入季后赛,基本上过不了第一轮
抹不开面子摆烂,不能称鱼腩,所以没办法有靠前的选秀权
球队管理层又想依靠kobe和phil称雄,又想抱着一帮所谓有“潜力”的新人为将来作打
算,患得患失,结果球队沦为中庸,高不成,低不就。
目前湖人最应该做的就是摆脱想熊掌和鱼兼得的心态,重新给球队定位。
如果打算着眼构筑未来的湖人王朝,就应该尽快交易kobe。我决不认为kobe是cancer,
但是摆明了,第一现在联盟不待见他,失去baby的地位不说,甚至连普通球员的待遇都
不如,第二每年近2千万的薪水可以发掘更多有潜质的新人,第三kobe的高水平恐怕还
能维持三五年,乘现在还值钱,早交易早合算。
同样地,高薪低能的odom和kbrown应该一起交易掉。
如果打算最近几年还想图谋一下冠军的,就应该放弃依靠菜鸟龙套的幼稚的想法,如果
要放弃odom,kbr和bynum才能换来kg,就应该有壮士断腕的勇气。
看看目前湖人的球员阵容,年轻有冲劲固然是优点(这也是赛季初湖人表现不错的原因
之一),但是缺点也太过明显。smush, odom, kbr, cook, rad, |
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c*******s 发帖数: 735 | 10 来回4个多小时,看了这么一场球,sigh.
别的也不用多说了,本来就没有指望这场能赢,但是没有想到是这个输法。今天阿呆
不知道怎么想的,第四节一帮替补被人狂run居然就是不肯叫暂停,非要挖个17分的大坑
。Rocket这边Big 3都让人很失望。裁判TMD也是无耻,禁区里面人仰马翻的犯规就是不
吹,过来找几个无关紧要的hand check找找平衡。
说点别的吧
1. 今天独自一人穿着主席的Jersey坐在一堆湖饭中间,就high了大概一节的时间,然后
就被他们郁闷的不行。最后提前退场,旁边一个穿着Smush Parker球衣的冲我喊"Hey Y
ao, next time you'll know who I am". 我也不客气"My name is Steve Nash".
2. 出去的时候门口发Taco票的老墨多塞给我一张Free Taco,偷偷告诉我他也是Rocket密
。算是这次trip唯一的惊喜了。
最后,最为理性的胡黑,不得不承认今年或许就是Laker's year.内线防守的软肋随
着AB的归来已经不复存在。再看看Laker的赛程,哪有一个队开赛两 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 11 S.Brown又不是没跟过LBJ,S.Smush在湖人好歹10来分,跟了wade很快
就去CBA做MVP了。Ariza在魔术如果不是当垃圾能拿来跟厨子换?
到了湖人呢?Ariza之前4个赛季投中9个三分,今年光季后赛就进了40个。
超级巨星能做到的就是给你空位,要把空位投进去还要自己苦练。
科比赛季初的时候给了ariza一个教投篮的video,ariza说他当圣经学,
平日里再讨教。
make teammates better大致就是如此,在平日的练习和比赛中多批评鼓励
年轻的队友,到季后赛就能用上。如果以身作则gym mat,没有几个敢偷懒。
LBJ这个年纪,论make teammates better还差远呢呢。阅历太少,年纪也不足以
服人。就像phil说的,kobe8年就说I am ready to lead, phil说nobody is
ready to follow. |
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s*****t 发帖数: 98 | 12 He was saying Kobe's teammate Smush Parker was CBA's final MVP. |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 13 把Smush Parker,Walton,Kwame配给皇帝做龙套,
能进西区季后赛吗?别忘了Parker, S.Brown都是在
骑士呆过的,连板凳轮转的机会都没有。
骑士好歹Z是全明星吧。 |
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g*m 发帖数: 4659 | 14 it's already impressive with Pavlovic, Hughes and Gooden and Z starting
with LBJ that year.
how much games did kobe win with Odom, Bynum, and Smush and Kwame, did
they beat a team with 53 win record.
the supporting casts on both teams were very similar. |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 15 Z was an all star in 05, Kobe had a team Bynum couldn't even start.
Don't forget Smush had 10 days contract in Cavs and waived. S.Brown
couldn't get play time in Cavs either. Talk about talent level. |
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l**k 发帖数: 45267 | 16 那时候湖人的阵容难道不是比现在这个骑士差很多?
除了喇嘛有nba首发水准,剩下三个luke,kwame,smush都什么人?
进季后赛的除了湖人,还有谁拿这么多nbdl的当首发?
进了季后赛而且差点把日队吓死,已经够可以了,你倒是标准挺高
打纯的team ball,除了04年活塞有那么点样子,其他都歇了。nba就是个造星的商业联
盟,想看team ball还不如去看NCAA,你这是缘木求鱼
it
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this
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l**k 发帖数: 45267 | 17 呵呵,不就是gasol想多要点出手么,这个可以支持
还several teammate,昨天有人把artest的话直接改成自己想要的,我就不说啥了
以前的smush倒是真的抱怨过,牛逼红红的,so what
LBJ. |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 19 我老骂过Smush和Kwame,是个湖饭都骂。
Odom我一直夸他季后赛比常规赛表现好。
Fisher这样我都没骂过他。好歹人有功。 |
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s***o 发帖数: 6934 | 20 05-06湖人内线也没现在强,当时的白嫩加水货状元,怎么比现在加嫂和白嫩
当时smush还主力呢,现在丫都沦落到cba了
纳什很牛逼,但是第二年的mvp给kobe我觉得不过分,不过也无所谓,mvp这种拿过就行
,戒指要多拿
看太阳啥配置,科比的湖人啥配置?把鼎盛时期的奥尼尔,或者现在的湖人三大给太阳
的马蜂窝内线对换一下(不要拿小斯这种没有内线统治力的伪内线明星来搞笑),漂发哥
很可能已经有总冠军戒指了。
逼内线的时候年年一轮游,就知道纳什有多么不容易了。 |
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A******C 发帖数: 1808 | 21 06湖人减去KB比雷霆减去杜铁差
主要有一票现在都打不上球的人
你看奶油手和smush现在都在哪? |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 22 胖子去年还是全明星,数据18/8,不算太漂亮但主要是靠自己单打得分。
Mo在美元队的时候比现在强,自己带球中投很多,命中率也高。再早一些
Hughes本来接近全明星,来骑士升华了一圈现在基本要退役了。连大本当垃圾扔掉的在活塞也像模像样的。
实在没看出来这些队友没LBJ不行。
你要是说投三分的龙套离开LBJ不行这个很正常。Ariza, Smush离开了科比好像也不咋样。
Gasol来了湖人,得分没下降,命中率上升了。老北京提升了谁? |
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l**k 发帖数: 45267 | 23 right,像某些个别选手比如smush,在kb身边能混更多空位三分,所以数据变好点是合
理的。像喇嘛跟着kb就坐板凳了,数据变差也没办法。。。
泛泛地讨论什么队友better就是空想 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 24 Kobe mailed it in when the team was down 20 points, 18 minutes to go, on the
road, for a game no way he could win by himself. With Smush, Kwame, Walton
being the starters.
I don't think it's even close.
Kobe led the comeback for 15 pts down in 4th quarter and won the
championship. I don't think he'll give up if there's any chance to win. |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 25 科比手边有啥,smush, kwame, walton首发,板凳比这个还不如。
你要说这些人能拿60胜科比肯定不好意思要帮手。
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n****y 发帖数: 656 | 26 知错能改,可以。但不要偷换概念,如果想做一个比较也无妨,我们可以列一下06-07
胡人的先发阵容,walton, smush parker, Kwame. 我觉得没有必要再列举骑士的阵容
了吧。 |
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 27 偷换概念的是你。Kobe+Gasol去年拿了冠军。
被你换成 Kobe+ (任何)一个全明星内线 就可以夺冠。
Kobe+Shaq F4时候夺冠了么?03年夺冠了么?
再者,我什么时候说过cav现今阵容比06-07湖人差?
你扯这个干什么。
知错能改,可以。但不要偷换概念,如果想做一个比较也无妨,我们可以列一下06-07
胡人的先发阵容,walton, smush parker, Kwame. 我觉得没有必要再列举骑士的阵容
了吧。 |
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l****8 发帖数: 1843 | 28 en, 我估计今年如果是smush,walton,odom,kwame首发,进不了季候赛 |
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 29 你怎么不说,没有kobe,胖子也可能没有一个ring?胖子自己都很害怕这个.
你允许胖子有kobe这档次的帮手,允许mj有pippen一档的帮手,就不允许kobe有gasol这
样的帮手?
非要kobe带着luke老三,smush跟kwame首发的队伍夺冠才叫牛? |
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 30 ariza算不算渣科make teammate better的例子, 像smush, kwame?
这个move,对火箭亏了,对ariza应该更好.毕竟cp3传,ariza切,比ariza自己硬搞好多了 |
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 31 both are allstars. Yao + hayes < boozer + okur, is it a reason to trash yao?
kobe + smush < tony + manu. Is it a reason to trash kobe?
i do not think any one can single handed handle boozer + okur
agree with bug: gasol is a (much) better 2nd option than yao, and yao is (
slight) better than gasol as first
option.
individual wise, similar level, u can pick either one to have an edge and u
are right.
but u cannot complain fate, and u cannot forget about fate when judging sb.
achievement wise, gaso... 阅读全帖 |
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A*T 发帖数: 4820 | 32 我看你还是适合咏叹调
both are allstars. Yao + hayes < boozer + okur, is it a reason to trash yao?
kobe + smush < tony + manu. Is it a reason to trash kobe?
i do not think any one can single handed handle boozer + okur
agree with bug: gasol is a (much) better 2nd option than yao, and yao is (
slight) better than gasol as first
option.
individual wise, similar level, u can pick either one to have an edge and u
are right.
but u cannot complain fate, and u cannot forget about fate when judging sb.
achievemen... 阅读全帖 |
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S**********y 发帖数: 1549 | 33 能从老北京手上抢下总冠军,正是说明td和popo的nb。sloan没能带领malone干翻
jordan,就是sloan不给力
ps:老北京作为乔丹之后统治力最牛,没有之一的巨星,只是一直队友不给力。要是当
时能和渣科换个球队,早就带领着smush parker和warton等一干球星勇夺总冠军了。 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 34 Oh? Odom, Kwame, Luke, Smush比Shaq, Mo, Hickson,Jamison, A.Parker, Varejao,
West,Gibson强? |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 35 希望不希望的,看都下个合同都啥样。胖子,休斯是两个个典型,贾米森
马上步后尘。
我湖Smush, Ariza,混了一下骗个烂合同。 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 37 老悲剧在西部能不能过第一轮不是问题,此人对50胜球队
1胜5负,还是自身2次60胜,最多一次赢了53胜的活塞,西区
前4都比这个强。所以必然一轮游。问题是
给他Odom, Smush, Waton,Brown做主力,能不能进季后赛,
考虑到这些人远投都烂,我认为不行。 |
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 38 Mo, AV, Z,West, Gibson,Moon这样的队友是垃圾?
Smush Parker跟热队签了2年400万,2个月被裁。
Kwame弱队打打替补。
Walton烂手里了不过跟Kwame一个性质。
Cook还是一个性质。
骑士的其他龙套,诸如胖子Jamison,去骑士之前可是18/8,20/10的数据。 |
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A*****e 发帖数: 29772 | 39 0405赛季唬人有smush有kb54?
0809赛季骑士有奥胖jamison?
Mo, AV, Z,West, Gibson,Moon跟场均15分6板2助的butler比,跟场均15分10板4助的
odom怎么样? |
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x**l 发帖数: 978 | 40 没错。科比当时身边不只噢当和小猴娃,还有帮主爱将状元中锋夸米布朗,中国CBA第
一球星死神SMUSH PARKER, NBA三分投射第一的大前BRIAN COOK,头型最帅的萨沙,还
有NBA名人堂沃顿培养出的知名衙内。带着这些牛人连第一轮都没过是在是水平太差了
。估计去打CBA都没人要。
看看James身边的那些烂货:莫为,巴西影帝,大厦,大Z,詹姆森,吉不森。。。
科比简直无地自荣啊。 |
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t**********r 发帖数: 2019 | 41 Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Luke Walton (Devin
George?), that was the 05-06 starting lineup played 7 games in playoff
against the Suns in their prime. Tell me how many games that team could win
without Kobe. If you say any number over 20 then you are delusional. |
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e*******e 发帖数: 9616 | 43 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – "Cap"[1]
Ray Allen – "Ray Ray",[2] "Jesus Shuttlesworth"[3] (after his character
in the movie He Got Game),[3]
Rafer Alston – "Skip To My Lou"[4]
Chris Andersen – "Birdman"[5]
Greg Anderson – "Cadillac"[6][7]
Carmelo Anthony – "Melo"[8]
Nate Archibald – "Tiny"[6][9]
Gilbert Arenas – ""Agent Zero", "The Hibachi"[10][11]
Trevor Ariza – "Cobra"[12]
Paul Arizin – "Pitchin' Paul"[9]
Ron Artest – "Metta World Peace" "Ron Ron"[13]
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 44 这个篮球是5人打得,一个人再牛,也双拳不敌十手.科黑们就觉得,kobe不能带着nbdl的
roster打进final,就是loser.这个,好像是蜜得过分,心里觉得kobe比mj都牛.
看看那些年的队友.
kb54,不用说了.在湖人拿9M合同,首发C.后来到了倒数第一的队伍依然主力替补都坐不
上.
smush,浩浩,比kb54更加nbdl.离开湖人,到了倒数第一的队伍依然没有任何上场时间.
cook,曾经湖人kobe外唯一靠谱的投手,一度是外围shooter的唯一威胁.然后呢?没有任
何队给他任何时间.
luke.他的水平,在任何队伍都没有3分钟时间.曾经是湖人的三哥.也是靠三哥身份混了
给mle,一辈子衣食无忧.
lamar,二当家,那些年除了kobe,唯一更在别的队伍打主力的.但是不靠谱的很.如果你不
是湖帆,偶尔看他
几场,觉得神的很,90%lbj.如果你看湖人比赛多了,发现他既不consistent.20-10也可能
,5-5也经常.他就是典型的不三不四,不内不外.碰上面点的,又比你高,又比你壮,还比你
快跟风骚,那个神通广大,但是碰上硬手,内线完全没戏,外线又既不靠谱.运气好... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******u 发帖数: 1855 | 45 昨天未完,今日再续.
本来很多想说07-08,但是情绪一断,现在已经没有太多想说的了.草草几句收场:1)那年
湖人8-9人career high.所谓最make teammmate better的nash,也就是4-6.什么叫make
teammate better?这就叫.2)也许有人说那些人就是成长了,牛了,跟kobe没关,那么看看
后来吧,sasha,farmar,turiaf等等,现在还有时间吗?
再随便荡开说几点:
先说说01AI跟07的lebron.好像骂kobe最爱说的就是这两位,仿佛kobe没有带着smush+
kwame+luke的主力阵容进final,就是不如那两位.这个不想贬低那两位,也确实是那二位
最nb的成就(lebron以后就算ring了,成就也不如了).但是几点:
1) 76跟骑士都是防守顶级球队.一个队伍可以进攻没有太多star,靠一个老大搞,但是防
守一定要好.76的大叔,snow,bell都是防守见长,甚至顶级,tyron hill,mckie等等也不
差.骑士的阿娇等人也不用说.所以两队可以得70+分数,<40的命中率赢球.这个湖人没有
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h**********g 发帖数: 3962 | 46 This guy used to be the starting point guard on the Lakers
during Kobe's prime time.
Where is he now? |
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T***c 发帖数: 17256 | 47 st.Kobe drove him out of league
lesson to learn: don't mess with st.Kobe |
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