y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 1 1100 games for pokeryjj, wining 4k.
800 games for soleeyeboy, winning 400.
What the heck is that.
if I my EV goes that way for soleeyeboy, I bet he can not do much about it. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 Yeah. I run 3 hours on pokeryjj. then rest. After 5 hours, I runs another 5
hours on soleeyeboy.
I only play Super turbo HU with soleeyeboy. I just occasionally play super
turbo HU with pokeryjj. |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 3 if you are playing this way, even through with 2 ids, you are still one
person playing the same game. I think you only get into trouble when you
think of those two ids as seperate identities.
In fact, there is only you, one person, playing the same game. If you put
the data for both ids together, you will have a very normal looking graph
with up and downs. pokeryjj is not that lucky and soleeyeboy is not that
unlucky. It just happened that pokeryjj caught all the upswing and
soleeyeboy c |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 VERY easy to check your luck factor.
play pokeryjj on one PC and soleeyeboy from another, they go HU and shove
every hand, lol.
..
I
sick,
get around 10$/hour, which is ridiculous.) |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 HU SNG? what does that red line stand for then? it can't be all in EV...
btw if you only play super turbo with soleeyeboy and play others with
pokeryjj, how can their ROI be the same with different games? I think you
are just BSOing the earning.. lol |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 I get so frustrated on soleeyeboy's games. Because I open it one week ago, I
put so many hours(yeah, 800 games already in just one week, compare I play
1100 games under pokeryjj using at least 3 weeks) into it. But the crap
gives me ridiculous downswings.
550$ downswing 2 times, As you may know, I play 35$ buyin games only, 550$
is equal to 15 games.
In HU sng, ppl only get 20 buyin for their entire bankroll. 15 games
downswing means that he is broken already.
It is so annoying and frustrating. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 red line stands for "show luck adjusted winnings"
Both IDs has done the filter already. Only 35$ super turbo HU sng.
Pokeryjj's data are super turbo 35$ buyin HU sng games only. Do not include
50$, 20$ buyin games.
I did put a lot of energy on my soleeyeboy ID, but stupid poor result makes
me so depressed. |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 8 it is totally beside the point. but. soleeyeboy is not a chinese id?
include
makes |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 You are right.
I need stay positive. Or I can move down a level for soleeyeboy.
put |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 10 soleeyeboy still can not win the game.
a lot of unlucky spots |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 normal for me now.My chinese id(soleeyeboy)'s swing is super huge. have two
500$ downswing already, plus four 300$, 400$ downswing.
Really do not understand. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 12 After you have seen my curves, I have to admit pokeryjj has much much better
luck than soleeyeboy. Do not know why. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 embrace the variance... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 You don't play on one account as well as the other anyway just by EV line...
there is obviously more than just variance...
is that 3k$ for 1000 hand? sick.. NL100 or NL400 HU? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 15 Plus soleeye encounter a lot of huge downswings. At least two 500$
downswings, four $300+ downswings.
Consider the average winning rate for 1 game is only 1$, 500$ downswing is
just huge. I gona get heart attack.
But I did nothing wrong, the same play. But the luck runs like crap. Do not
know how many bad beats already.
From those curves you can tell everything. |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 16 do you constantly switch between those two ids? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 You don't play on one account as well as the other anyway just by EV line...
there is obviously more than just variance... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 coppoia, i like your style.. ^_^ |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 coppoia 对poker的理解很好.. 你在十么level发财啊?
put |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 21 谢谢谢谢。 我有时候可能话多点。 论打牌和这里的牛人们不能比啦。 我打２－５
CENTS的。 超级MINI MICRO。 非常喜欢TEXAS HOLD＇EM。 也打很多牌。 但一个月打
出来的钱比你一个星期的RAKEBACK １０％ 都不到。 ：） |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 看一个人的帖就可以看出一个人对poker的理解到社么程度, 很多看似浅显的道理, 很多人打了很久其实还没理解... 看了好几个你的回帖, 我
觉的你真可以到高一点的级别打.. 从NL10 开始.. 有了bankroll 再升... 我年初还在
打NL10呢... 你很有希望...有社么hand history 也可以拿出来讨论... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 23 maybe pokeryjj has more timidating data/notes from opponents' perspective an
d somehow it's easier to win. haha.
i guess more analysis is needed to figure out what's going on with soleeyebo
y. Does its allin/bluff get called more often or not? or simply just extreme
ly unlucky?
put |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 24 上个星期开始打RUSH。 ３０ BUYIN 的 UP SWING。 straight up. 我还真的觉得自
己可以MOVE UP 到 NL１０ 了。 结果这个星期 ２０个BUYIN 的 DOWN SWING。 整
个WINNING LINE 就是一个 Graphy of NORMAL DISTRIBUTION。
停了RUSH。 还是持续的输了几个BUYIN。 可能有些ON TILT 了。 现在也不明白到底是
怎么回事。 我差点儿就降级到NL２ 去了。
今天刚刚缓过来。 慢慢打。 基本上可以保证WINNING SEASON 了。 以后碰到难打的牌
一定放上来问问你的意见。
很多人打了很久其实还没理解... 看了好几个你的回帖, 我 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 25 The 2 ids share the same Notes. Play almost exactly the same way.
That game depends a lot on lucky.
To be frank, it is a coin flip game. Usually, the winner's ITM rate is 52%--
55%.
If I can not win the biggest favor pot(such as: AA vs q2o, ak vs a3s). At
the same time, I lost most coin flips(such as: my a5o vs jqo, my jko vs
other's 78o) and lose all my underdog pot. The winning result will be
horrible.
That red line does tell the stuff about luck.
Chinese ID means that ID is registered from Ch |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 Chinese ID means that id is registered from China. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 should say I am very lucky to get the ticket. Although I rebuy that much, I
am still 15/16 after rebuy. when 6 ppl left, I shove allin(4bb) with k2o,
get called by SB(4.5BB) with A9o. And I win that hand.
relate to HU, I do not use soleeyeboy any more, Keep winning with my
pokeryjj.
And I have EVENT12 (HU Event) satellite challenge win recently. I am fine.I get lucky again, play 4 hours, from my local time 11:00PM to 3:00AM, get 4 tokens, get around 1k$ profit, plus 1k satellite challenge win.
T |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 29 the dean wins the tourney.
He shoves Jqo from btn around 13BB, I call with 55, and lost to him. Guess
my luck is not good. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 30 so you finished 2nd? That is 100+K ! |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 i think it is time to suck it up and move on... |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 32 NO, I go deep, but not so lucky about some spots.
For example, I have aqs on the btn, BB has KK.
Btn shoves 13BB, I happens to have 55 in the blinds.
Lost 2 many flips, can not win the game. (I lost at least 6 all ins in that
game, the result can not be to very good.)
Watch the game all the way, dean wins 5 flips, and lose 1 flips.(all these
flips, he doubles up.)
his 88 beats another guy's 77 allin. ETC
Ak wins another guy's KQ.
AA wins btn's 88 shove. (all these are huge pots.)
I guess that i |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 you mean you went deep in this miniFTOPS?
for how much?
that |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 34 查查sharkscope 把~~~~~earning 900$ |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 35 he might be in final table w/ 2nd/3rd id |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 can u copy the content here, 2+2 blocked at work, sigh. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 39 Recently, I have played one session about a breakeven player. I lost 15
games, and only won 5 games.
这几天真背啊-----It applies to me also. And I need sit back and study the games against in case I have some big leaks. But one thing is for sure, I tilt from time to time. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 40 can someone explain to me what this red line stands for? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 41 show luck adjusted winning box is checked |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 42 This does not explain what this line really stands for. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 43 like for cash game, the ev line is the expected value when you go all in
prior to river. Now this is an explanation. The name of EV line does not
explain what exactly it is. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 44 like for cash game, the ev line is the expected value when you go all in
prior to river --------- the same rule applies to HU SNG.
We do get involved a lot of allin preflop. My luck is not quite well. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 watched most of it, dude, you don't have edge on that australian guy, he
owns you.
games against in case I have some big leaks. But one thing is for sure, I
tilt from time to time. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 46 still does not explain it. You have multiple all ins in each SNG with
different stack sizes. How does it calculate the final EV for that SNG? |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 47 EV for SNG is pretty straight forward
If a pot has a size of 1000 chips. If your equity at allin is 30%, you get
300 EV chip.
At the end, suppose you get 2000 EV chips out of total 3000 chips.
Your EV for this SNG is 66% of the total prize. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 48 i see what you mean. Just calculate the overall ev for chips for all the
hands in a game then calculate the money ev accordingly. Yeah, this makes
sense. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 49 Yeah, that is what I thought(, plus if I lose a lot, I will get tilted
quickly in HU games). I need work on the HU game again now. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 hehe, i was trying to MSN you that night and tell you to stop playing that
guy, i watched about 7-8 games you two played, he made the right moves at a
very high % of times, and quite a few times, your hands got lucky (and he
still won the game in the end). even as an observer, i could feel (not only
smell, hehe) your frustration and tilt in the last two. forutnately he ran
away, otherwise even you could win 3 back, you may easily lose another 10 to
him. |
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