T********e
发帖数: 533 | 1 single stack的又不是subcompact的9mm好像还真不太多吧，
Smith & Wesson的M&P Shield是吧？算不算subcompact？我觉着不算太小握着还不错。 |
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 2 RIA 1911 9mm 9rds single stack ~$500 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 3 不是很喜欢1911的操作，原来的1911出掉了，不过还有一个Sig的single
stack .45。9mm的有吗？ |
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W*********g
发帖数: 409 | 4 不能ccw，要single stack有什么用？加州人民真苦逼：) |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 5 有兴趣这个，瞄着呢。不过有Shield了，这两个算subcompact吧。
想找一把single stack full size或者compact |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 6 P227是double stack，P220是single。.45弹弹太贵了，虽然打起来过瘾，
跟烧钱一样快 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 7 他鸡是oversign最严重球队之一，当然stacked了。 |
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c***h
发帖数: 80 | 8 me and vallian both have a little bit more than buy-in (120bb)
NL25 6-max. I opened 3x from CO w/ A5s, BB raised to 6x, I called. flop a
nut flush draw, BB bet, I raise, he re-raise, I all-in. Didn't hit flush...
any suggestion on how to play nut flush draw in position w/ big stack? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 dusty recommends the same way you played with nut flush draw or even non nut
flush draw.
hitting a flush draw against deep stack has great implied odds, but of
course, you'll miss x% of time too. nothing wrong, but simple odds in the
LONG term.
to me, A5s might be a little weaker in general unless you have a gutshot
wheel draw too. AKs or AQs will give you better odds with TP hits too. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 10 you have to fold, what can you beat there? only a bluff.
Even bold guy is bluffing on the turn, he probably is semi-bluffing, he can
value betting or bluffing you on the river effectively. And you still have a
deep stack, folding there is only option.
草花
ear |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 micro stack，不要放200BB在桌上，呵呵，shove容易多了，碰见这种两难也损失不大。 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 12 我是觉得deepstack可以唬住一部分short stack(rush里的short还是挺多的)，尽量不
要和deep
卷进去，但是这把拿AKs想不卷进来难啊...
大。 |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 13 除非是打职业short stack,还是正常buy-in好玩 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 Hand 7)
This one is just simply stupid.. lol
I raise ep KK, button 3 bet to 11$ we both have 150bb stack.
Fucking stupid HM all of sudden does not work any more for that particular
hand. so it is basicly no read.. what the hell? I need my refund for HM..
I 4 bet to 26$. button shove.. i call..
no surprise he has AA. en.. I blame HM for this..
Second thoughts, Johny chan go broke with KK vs AA too on WSOP.. i don't think i can beat Johny, so i have to go broke here.. |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 15 squeezing short stack fish... LOL you are playing coin flip then...
never squeeze them, never bluff them... have to select you hand..squeezing
is kind of addictive drugs, dont abuse it.
involved.
... |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 16 以前在paired board吃过好几次亏了，又是deep stack，这种情况怎么办， river要3-bet么
，还是call |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 17 villain: 100 hand history 18/16/2.3 ep的vp$ip 11%, 3-bet 14.5%, facing 3-
bet 一次，call
虽说他打得有点松，不过面对utg+1的4bet还是挺怕的，虽说没有位置flat 4-bet好像特别糟糕，但
是qq shove utg+1 在deep stack下真有点不敢，fold这样数据的对手又不甘心。 也许我应该5-
bet到30$然后fold to shove?
看过flop就决定donk bet half pot fold to shove，还好对手不算太凶，让我这么weak的人
逃过了。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 ran into 66?
lol, or don't play deep stack with AA. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 19 Another note, villain's 3 bet at button is 15% with 1K hands. He only folded
to 4 bet 17% time. I think he would flat call with any playable hands with
stacks this deep. So Suited connector is not out of his range. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 As played i probably call and make a post to complain about it anyway...only because he give me a very good pot odds and he is reping too narrow a range that has AA beat. Additionally, when i check flop for pot control, i feel obligated to call river as a calling station.. you want to see a showdown without putting all the stacks in by pot controlling flop. You got it now by calling the half pot bet on river. |
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n**m
发帖数: 113 | 21 昨晚出差，在一个小地方，$1-2的game, $200 buy in,up to $300, down to $50, up
to $300, $600, $1200, 换到main game,up to $1500, $2300, 最后down到$2000, 一
把open ended straight draw,没有hit 到river,bet $500 bluff $900的pot,结果被捉！
Stack最高$2300, profit $800 per session,都破了自己的记录，只是对那bluff耿耿
于怀！ |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 bottom set is always scary, against these 2 hands, best situation!
i posted before, once i was dealt 99 in LP, raised pot preflop.
flop: 9TJ rainbow.
MP checked and then over shoved $800 (pot was < $100), the next guy shoved
too like $900... i was sitting there like a duck for a loooooong time (i
covered both of them by a little).
finally i decided to let it go since very likely one of them hit a better
set, and i couldn't lose my $1K stack like this (big hole just filled).
both turned over the ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 23 这牌也太寸了，两孙子(尤其是第一个孙子)不知道哪根筋搭错了，想出check over
over over shove这种招数！flopped nuts啊！彩虹flop啊！还是小pot啊！
而且两个人都是从broken table新加入这桌的，也应该没什么deep read...桌子上除了
俺以外，其他人的stack都比较小，200/300这样的，这种打法真有意思么？靠。
正常玩法，不打草惊俺这头驴，让俺看到貌似安全的turn，俺有非常大的可能会买单，
属于俺典型的脑筋短路问题，就是说敌人动手越早俺反倒想得更多，动手晚俺倒觉得自
己在trap别人，呵呵。
到river，那是没有疑问的了，别说当时的毛驴，就是现在的倔驴，也一样。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 24 这些小stake 的dealer 都被这些大鱼给惯出来了。
哥以前有一次flop straigtflush, 有一个人是Ace high flush， 赢了一个快
6000 刀 的pot, 而且那人又将近200$ 一块钱的 chip, 而且我办俩stack 差不多，
dealer 数了好几分钟，俺给了dealer 6$ tip, 那dealer 还非常感谢，说了好几声
thanks, 因为regular很少给这么多tip 的。
俺更你讲过，一次俺亲眼看到brian rast 在wynn 赢了一个300k+的Pot, 这个哥们
一块小费也没多给。他们付小费是固定付的，每个dealer 25$, 其实20分钟赚25$ 对
dealer 这么简单的不需要多少技能的工作已经不错了。
如果都像那些大鱼那样给小费，dealer 们都发大了，Pro 们都要sleep on
street 了。 |
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 25 for example
1/2 cash game
Hero $120, dealt with QJs at cutoff.
MP (have hero covered) raised to $12, hero call, another caller. Flop has Q
and two small cards, dry flop.
MP bet out $20.
With the size of the chip stack, hero didn't want to reraise.So hero called.
Turn blank, MP bet again for $35.
What will you do on flop and turn? MP is an OK player, not nit or LAG.
I've been having trouble playing top pair good kicker hands.
How do you generally play top pair either with position or OOP? Any adv... 阅读全帖 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 26 short stack ，not a good one to play QJs, if I have 300+ i will play QJs |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 27 was it heads-up? if mp is an OK player, i guess after u callied turn bet,
prolly u guys checked down the rest. I dont like to chase aggro with
relatively short stack tho. |
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p****t
发帖数: 292 | 28 Given the stack size of 60bb and the fact that it cost you 10% of that to
see a flop, if you are not comfortable to commit after flopping top pair,
then your preflop call is questionable. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 29 2-5 NL.
relative passive table. A new comer(old guy) just sat down with 140$. he
limped in MP, I think he is pretty weak and raised to 25$ on button with 78o
and tried to steal it. both SB and BB folded and mp called. He then said "
check in the dark"
.
flop came J 8 3, two spade. I have one spade in my hand, so I have a
middle pair with backdooor str draw and flush draw. Since he checked in the
dark, I bet 35$, he shoved the rest of his stack- about 80$ more for me to
call.
Against h... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 30 tyvm.
what kind of range that we can put him on when limping/calling raise
with such shallow stack? |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 31 On this particular hand short stack is allin or fold... My guess is that
hero is unlikely to be dominantly ahead but could be way behind... Only
motivation i can think of calling here is hero want to show the table his
heart lol
78o
the |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 32 I did call. I thought he may have a small pair and put me on Ak,AQ or he
may have a draw. My read was wrong, he had KK but lukily I hit another 8 on
the river to take down the pot. for his stack, i think his play is OK.
Like teacher mm said, it is good chance to build my LAG image here and
folding will make me look too weak. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 只需要30% equity. 纯ev. 我觉得也是call. 如果ak, 你这里会fold 吗？ 87 这里
比AK 强。 这里short stack range 太广了。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 34 for 633, even the opponent has over pair, it is quite good to let them stack
you
the
unless |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 35 这贴连stake 都没有。 次奥。 太不地道了。
如果是不想BSO NL10000有200bb 的stack， 完全没必要哈。 我们热爱BSO,
intentional or unintentional |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 BSO 在NL100，40手内用超级maniac style double up stack.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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l*******r
发帖数: 328 | 37 I've seen a guy all in preflop 400+ BB ran into AA with 500 BB and lost all
his stack. |
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h*****s
发帖数: 3289 | 38 最近跑得无比糟糕 大队子被破到死....
今晚跑得还不错 终于赢了一把 $10 for $1.4k
一直都是short-stack 基本上都是bottom 10%
而且是个turbo FT的时候只有9个BB左右 最惨的时候只有1.5BB... |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 39 昨天试着玩了会6max 400NL, 问问大家对这手牌有什么建议.
CO: ~$800, fish, I 3bet him frequently
BTN: Hero QcQs ~$900
BB: ~$800, a good player who is fully aware what I am doing. He doesn't
fold to me easily and could trap me.
Preflop:
CO open to $14
Hero raise to $48
BB 4bet to $98
CO fold
Hero call
BB's 4bet is a surprise. It could be that he is bluffing because he thinks
I am bluffing the fish. But I am not sure. This is the first time he does
it. For 100BB stack, I would shove. For 200BB, I don't feel that is... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 40 I feel the same way about his river bet, but still want to see what he has.
He has A5.
我对deep stack没有什么经验,ＱＱ一般应该3bet多大？ 如果被4bet了一般应该怎么
办？
your |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 41 谢谢大家的讨论,大家的意见对我都很有启发．
1. 3bet size
的确象wm说的一样，我3bet比较频繁，所以不愿意size太大．popo说的也有道理，deep
stack如果有大牌理论上应该是bet大一些．
2. 5bet
我没有5bet,和版主mm想得差不多．如果我5bet，基本就是commit了,如果对方有AA,KK
我have to pay him off, 但是对方的bluff牌基本是抓不到了． 还有一个原因，如果
我只是call 4bet, show some weakness, Villain with a monster hand may not
push as hard after flop, because he could be concerned that I fold instead
of pay him off. |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 42 S神的light raise is a good play in my opinion. Why, he explained it in post
10 already. The other thing I would comment is giving S神 image, villain
will put him on a very wide range. So any two cards can shove against his
light raise. In fact, I think Villain already made his mind to bluff S神
before flop. But unfortunately, this time S神 had second nuts. Good play for
S神 to leverage his own image.
On the other side, villain's play is also ok giving S神 stack size. Long
time against player like ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 43 I can understand why he 4bet light here. I play this way often too. It is
like 3bet light in 100bb standard stack. The value of bluff is really in
the flop cbet.
not |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 44 Qing兄，如果是100bb stack, blind vs BTN that steals often, 你会有时候3bet
light 么？ |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 45 那和这手牌deep stack out of position 4bet light不是一样的么 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 46 哈哈，再次声明，其实我嘴皮子很笨的。
其实这牌，UTG+1 有A或者大对子是一定的。 但是他太weak了。 即使他知道我的打法
，知道这牌我河牌bluff的可能性也比较高，但我还是敢shove。 因为我知道他一定会
犹豫。 而且这牌的好处是还有BTN在后面作掩护。 我知道BTN有busted的flush draw的
可能性很大，只要UTG+1 fold，我的赢面会很大。 所以眼看他要call我了，我只好开
始talk，直到他fold。
后来我亮了我的牌，把UTG+1气得快吐血。 我问他为什么fold，他说 because you
oopened your fxxxing mouse.
看来他被气得不行。 后来一手牌，我flop straight，直接拿下他整个stack。 呵呵，
这哥们看来今天就是倒霉，没有赢过我一把。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 47 what about the rest of SB stack? |
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h**********9
发帖数: 12 | 48 打tournament
这种情况除了all in赌运气，还有更好的策略吗
一个case是
AJo short stack
call UTG 2BB raise
flop JXX
all in
对手QQ |
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h**********9
发帖数: 12 | 49 谢谢！
具体这手牌的话
对手2BB raise
short stack with AJo all in或看到TPTK all in
应该是正确的打法
结果怎么样
就只能看对手什么牌、出来什么牌了
如果AJo都fold
那还能等到什么牌呢 |
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