d****p
发帖数: 685 | 1 Agree that C++ coders may need to be aware of C stuff.
But that's all. Like coders using other languages, C++ coders spend most of
their time on meetings, bug fixes, reading other peoples' code, and debating
with Java guys why C++ is not bad :-) To me, C++ is on the right track by
incorporating high level stuff like Boost into standard/practise. I don't
see the commonly claimed C++ badies happen to me or people around me - a few
years' experience willmake you a good C++ coder, and there is no sh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8565 | 2 还是同意goodbug多一点。
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 3 致命的是C++开发太慢了，大多数场景下面C++性价比太差。
所以如果没有C++情结的话，建议学/用C#，效率高多了。
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 4 and get stuck with windows/microsoft? |
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e****d
发帖数: 895 | 5 Sometimes, meeting some critical performance requirements
is more important than short development cycle. C++ will
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 7 i often write in python. with all its libraries,
it's extremely fast to implement a system.
for the critical parts, they can be swapped out with
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 9 at least you can use java then. |
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 10 that's how we C++ programmers keep our jobs. Higher pay than java guys and
less productive work. Long live C++ hahaha!
but yes, we C++ programmers need to learn java/c# now because more and more
people hate C++ now. so one day it will become something like cobol.
oh, wait, I thought who knows cobol these days got the highest paid since
banks need them to maintain the legacy systems?
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 11 even worse: sun is already dead. oracle is kinda a wild card. |
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 12 That's just your personal point of view. |
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 13 cobol got less pay even than c#.
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 14 you sure? given the vast supply of Indian C# programmers... |
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 16 because we have to read other's sucky C++ programs. and soon others will
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 17 according to simplyhired.com,
average cobol pay is 68K,
c# is 75K, java is 78K, c++ is 80k, j2ee is 80k. |
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 18 thanks for the education |
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 19 and actually j2ee is 81k.
but a few K doesn't matter. |
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 20 that's why goodbug is so tenacious. |
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 21 最终scripting language will dominate.
其他像C++,java什么的终将是昨日黄花。 |
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 23 I can't hate scripts more. not read-able. no type checking. bugs everywhere. |
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 24 what is this? for fresh undergraduates? sounds pretty low. |
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s***o
发帖数: 2191 | 26 Hopefully M$ will do something in the next release of Visual Studio since
their "strategy has shifted..."
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 27 python 3 has type annotation. it's not for type checking,
just for documentation purpose.
on the other hand, the new c++ will have auto var, which doesn't
have explicit type declarations.
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D*******a
发帖数: 3688 | 28 I've burned by python as someone inadvertently switched the order of
parameters in a function call. took a long time to figure out the bug. this
will not happen in other strongly-typed languages.
var is ok because basically the compiler will resolve the type for you, just
like C#. Sometimes it gives trouble though, especially in LINQ in C#. |
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 29 You are just arguing on the wrong side. remember:nothing is perfect.
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N***m
发帖数: 4460 | 30 C++ is not designed to be a perfect language, neither is jave, python,
they are just practical tools. so just pick up the one that you feel handy.
If you just want to find a job, there is really no need to discuss more
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发帖数: 34805 | 32 I don't want to make this another C++ vs. Java thread,
I am merely saying C++ will be better off if it doesn't try
to make C first class citizen. Strictly requiring it to be
called as external functions wrapped in certain class
will make C++ code much cleaner and consistent in OO sense.
Why do you need things like void*, char*, global function in
C++? #Define is often abused too. And there's no such things
like good C++ coders don't do that. There are always more
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 33 object-oriented is overrated. |
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发帖数: 3195 | 34 python, c++, javascript, SQL, R, latex pretty much cover all i use.
they are all standard, free, open.
would never use proprietary languages like java, c#, vb, matlab. |
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发帖数: 5298 | 35 太浪费时间了。牛人都不看书，直接自己拍脑袋整一个C++，譬如stroustrup |
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S****z
发帖数: 666 | 36 原来是这个叫stroustrup弄出来的
我对C++很不满，有他的email吗？我要complain！ |
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 39 yeah, you don't even need complex situations. Bjarne Stroustrup once showed
a benchmark of insertion/deletion on vector vs list: surprisingly, the
former wins even when N is ~ 10^6.
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r*********r
发帖数: 3195 | 40 不精通C 就不能算会 C++.
版名可以叫c/c++版, 信奉 Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustrup 两大真神。 |
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r****y
发帖数: 26819 | 45 我倒觉得电子版纸版不矛盾啊，光有纸版也没用，不能总带在身上。 |
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y**b
发帖数: 10166 | 46 觉得也是，我花那么多钱买本纸书，凭什么不给我个电子版便于有时候查阅呢？ |
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