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E*V
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In the United States, the phrase is used in Washington, D.C. as part of the
campaign for a vote in Congress. In November 2000, the D.C. Department of
Motor Vehicles began issuing license plates bearing the slogan "Taxation
without representation".[13] In a show of support for the city, President
Bill Clinton used the "Taxation Without Representation" plates on the
presidential limousine; however, President George W. Bush had the tags
replaced to those without the motto shortly upon taking office
c***l
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美国的殖民地独立和印度,菲律宾这种国家的独立并不是一回事
美国的早期settlers都是英国人,是英国军队把印地安人往西赶后从英国本土搬来的占领者
他们并不是英国imperialism的受害者,而是得益者
当时美国(应该称america colony)长期靠低价卖给英国原材料,包括棉花,烟草等,而高价从英国进口工业品,甚至东印度公司转运的茶叶都被加上很高的税(后来发生了反对进口茶叶的Boston的倾茶事件),自己的工业根本建不起来,而且是强买强卖。英国为了垄断对美国settlers的出口,利用世界当时最庞大的海上力量,严厉打击任何对美国的走私。
这种利益上的分配不均,导致了美国的settlers的反抗,当时著名的口号是No
taxation without representation,美国的settlers认为给英国政府上了tax,但在British Parliament却没有代理人来维护自己的利益,是不公平的
No taxation without representation被认为是导致美国从英国独立的主要原因。
为了这一口号而战斗独立的美国settlers根本不可能接受其他任何... 阅读全帖
H****g
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来自主题: Military版 - 马克思与中国鸦片(转) (转载)
这是你引用那段话的全文。请你具体指出,你主贴里说的马克思”赞美“鸦片战争等谬
论是根据那段话”归纳“出来的?
Revolution in China and In Europe
June 14, 1853
A most profound yet fantastic speculator on the principles which govern the
movements of Humanity was wont to extol as one of the ruling secrets of
nature what he called the law of the contact of extremes. The homely proverb
that “extremes meet” was, in his view, a grand and potent truth in every
sphere of life; an axiom with which the philosopher could as little dispense
as the astronomer with... 阅读全帖
b****a
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A job posting on Craigslist Shanghai: "Personal Assistant to Director (
Foreigner) - Open Minded Ladies only".
I am a 32 year old Director of a foreign investment firm (we have offices in
Hong Kong, Singapore and New York) and I have been assigned to expand our
operations in China. So far so good.
I need an open-minded female assistant who is fun-loving and eager to expand
her career. You will be able to interact closely with a high level finance
professional, as well as many CEOs/senior executi... 阅读全帖
b****a
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在上海Craigslist最近出现了这么一个寻求秘书的工作广告,间而言之:年轻漂亮,思
想开放,交际能力强,愿意随时为老板或客户献身,工资两万月薪,另有加班和奖金。
This job posting on Craigslist Shanghai: "Personal Assistant to Director (
Foreigner) - Open Minded Ladies only".
I am a 32 year old Director of a foreign investment firm (we have offices in
Hong Kong, Singapore and New York) and I have been assigned to expand our
operations in China. So far so good.
I need an open-minded female assistant who is fun-loving and eager to expand
her career. You will be able to intera... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 25 Statist Propaganda Phrases
http://reece.liberty.me/2015/03/09/25-statist-propaganda-phrase
In the discourse of statists, there is a group of phrases of which one or
more tend to be present in nearly every argument.
While this is not an exhaustive listing of that group, it does contain
twenty-five of the most common phrases that statists use in their arguments.
As propaganda has a tendency to be repetitive, some of these phrases
contain the same logical fallacies, and will therefore have similar
refutations. As such, the p... 阅读全帖
a****y
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: lanjia (蓝葭), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 华人政客就会倾听华人呼声?ACA 4投票展现又一反例!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 4 17:37:20 2015, 美东)
就在独立日那几天,mitbbs.com三藩版出现一篇文章号召给议员打电话反对ACA 4提案
。紧接着,加州微信群里面开始疯传给华裔民主党议员Phil Ting打电话发信的号召贴
,希望他能反对ACA 4的投票。什么是ACA 4?这是民主党提出的一条宪法修正案,目的
是把过去给Parcel Tax加税需要2/3投票赞成的门槛降低到55%赞成票即可。之所以提出
这种法案,是民主党为了方便自己加税而无所不用其极的手段。提案日程显示,7月份
Phil Ting作为committee主席的加州Revenue and Taxation committee要对此审议投票
。如果Phil Ting能投反对票,甚至仅仅是弃权,也是很有意义的一件事。
就在号召微信刚刚发出三个小时之后,群众已经报告,Phil Ting的语音... 阅读全帖
S***E
发帖数: 1977
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47%不交税,但是他们也有选票
这个很讽刺,因为美国独立战争的口号就是No taxation without representation
反过来说no representation without taxation。政府是靠大家交税运转的,凭什么没
交税的人能够决定政府如何运转?没有义务凭空拿权利。
最初的时候对于选举资格要求很严的,要求有财产,交税,有文化,还有族裔和性别的
限制。
去除族裔和性别的限制是对的,因为这两类人也会交税。
问题出在取消对于税务和文化要求的取消。一个心智不健全,不交税的人,让他投票,
不是害人么。
不过在美国的民主制度设计下,两党都不择手段扩大自己的票仓,甚至不惜挑战法律。
所以无论如何都会走到取消限制,以自然人为基础的投票权设计。现在对于非法移民宽
松,归根到底就是对于非法移民票仓的觊觎,所以哪一方面都不敢指责这些移民。这是
美国民主制度的癌症。
j****l
发帖数: 3356
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来自主题: Military版 - 川普支持者应该反对一人一票
当年独立口号之一,No taxation without representation
现在要提另一面,No representation without taxation
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: USANews
标 题: 美国5个将民间动乱转变为全面革命的因素
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 14 00:41:25 2016, 美东)
5 Factors that Transform Civil Unrest Into a Full-Blown Revolution
http://readynutrition.com/resources/5-factors-that-transform-unrest-into-full-blown-revolution_28112016/#
We will first list some of the factors that cause an uprising to transform
into an all-encompassing revolution.
1. Economic Factors: This could take the form of an economic c... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 荣炮:We Must Declare Independence
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/july/03/we-must-declare-independence/
As Independence Day comes around again we should spend a few moments between
barbecue and fireworks to think about the meaning of independence. The
colonists who rebelled against the British Crown were, among other things,
unhappy about taxation. Yet, as economist Gary North points out, the total
burden of British imperial taxation was about one-to-two percent of national
income.
Some 241 years late... 阅读全帖

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"taxation without representation"貌似不适用
因为本来也没有taxation
哈哈
g******b
发帖数: 38
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来自主题: Military版 - 香港的司法真是个怪胎!
美国的立国初衷是:
No taxation without representation
看好了,中文是“无代表,不纳税”。政府被老百姓养着,却对着老百姓自称父母官,
把代表纳税人权利的活动份子投入监狱,这个就是Taxation without representation
is tyranny.

发帖数: 1
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来自主题: Military版 - 你帝IRS管得到地球外吗?
作为马斯克税务顾问,哥表示:不鼠食,overseas跟outerspace根本不是一个
dimension,你帝只称global taxation,而按住痒说的UBI是universal basic income
都不包括全部地球人,更别提外星人了,所以除非你帝修改税法,称universal
taxation,否则无法理对外星球收入征税
g********d
发帖数: 4174
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来自主题: QueerNews版 - 999 税法究竟多荒唐? (ZT)
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/tzlc/361501.html
面对入不敷出的美国经济,共和党有一百个可能打败奥巴马,可是僵化了的党文化,在
国库短缺的时候还一味要求减税,巧妇难煮无米炊耶,要大部分美国人获得共呜简直是
掾木求鱼,看来,奥巴马还是会稳坐多四年。
不过,半路杀出一个程咬金,共和党的总统候选人一字排开,终于有一个脱俗而出,成
了大热门,此位便是荷蒙倾( Herman Cain ),他提出了一个彻底颠复目前传统税制
的三条九,三部曲计划,又称 999 税计划,用划一的 9% 个人所得税, 9% 的公司所
得税加上 9% 的联邦购物税代替现在复杂的税制。
下面是他自己所列举的 999 种种好处:
•Removes all payroll taxes and unites all tax payers
•Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest
opportunities to do so
•Lifts a $430 billion dead-we... 阅读全帖
l*******g
发帖数: 28502
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anir (炉边人似月) 于 (Tue Dec 29 12:55:27 2009, 美东) 提到:
China's Divisive Development
Growing Urban-Rural Inequality Bodes Trouble by Joshua Levin
Disease, Vol. 23 (3) - Fall 2001 Issue
JOSHUA LEVIN is a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review.
In an August 1999 incident reminiscent of the Cultural Revolution,
Chinese farmers rampaged through government offices and pillaged the
homes of the rich in Jiangxi province. Two thousand People’s Armed
Polic... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Chad Stafko
The City of Columbus, Ohio was greeted by a number of Ohio State University
medical students and individuals from the Investing in Tobacco-Free Youth
Coalition in March of this year. The group touted a poll which found that
more than 60% of Ohio voters favored a tax increase of $0.75 per pack of
cigarettes and nearly the same percent favored a larger tax of $1.25/pack.
A similar poll was conducted in North Carolina earlier this year. It found
that about two out of every three li... 阅读全帖
c****n
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来自主题: USANews版 - 事实上富人实际的税率不到 1%
you are still thinking from a naive, individual perspective
taxation is a domestic instrument, property/wealth tax is a taxation on
the property/wealth WITHIN the country. Regardless of your citizenship,
if you own property/wealth in the U.S., you pay tax for it.
Of course we do not want to tax on your African horse, why it even
bothers? You have absolute right to enjoy an extremly luxury life
by your 100 million a year income. U.S. welcome smart and capable
people like you. Your income here is ... 阅读全帖
g******s
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来自主题: USANews版 - 事实上富人实际的税率不到 1%
It seems that we have two systems by mdrosophila and cocoon
Goal:
Md: To lower the wealth gap in society.
Co: To encourage investment. "tax is suppose to make the country prosperous,
make people live better,not suppose to make more money for the government.
My tax systemencourages you to invest, to create a company, to hire people"
Methods:
Md: tax on wealth every year (say 2%). No or low income tax. No delay
taxation. Whether you realize the gain or no.
Co:- Tax on wealth/property or money no i... 阅读全帖
l****z
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While his plan to lower the corporate tax rate to 28% from 35% might help
the overall economy, it doesn’t particularly help small businesses.
Kathleen Hoffelder
President Barack Obama called for a number of solutions to the United States
’s tax problems last night in his State of the Union speech to Congress. In
particular, he attempted to appeal to small businesses with a plea for
simplicity.
“The American people deserve a tax code that helps small businesses spend
less time filling out complic... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 高税收摧毁美国
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html
On Oct. 22, 1986, President Reagan signed into law the Tax Reform Act of
1986, one of the most far-reaching reforms of the United States tax system
since the adoption of the income tax. The top tax rate on individual income
was lowered from 50% to 28%, the lowest it had been since 1916. Tax
preferences were eliminated to make up most of the revenue. In an attempt to
remain revenue neutral, the act called for a $120 billion increase in
business taxation... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - 高税收摧毁美国
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html
On Oct. 22, 1986, President Reagan signed into law the Tax Reform Act of
1986, one of the most far-reaching reforms of the United States tax system
since the adoption of the income tax. The top tax rate on individual income
was lowered from 50% to 28%, the lowest it had been since 1916. Tax
preferences were eliminated to make up most of the revenue. In an attempt to
remain revenue neutral, the act called for a $120 billion increase in
business taxation... 阅读全帖
a*********a
发帖数: 3656
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so your proposal is:
1 2-3% annual tax on wealth, perhaps another 2-3% tax on income. Good luck
with that amendment to the constitution.
2. no representation w/o taxation: those don't pay tax has no say in the
matter of the nation, unless they enlist in armed service. Good luck with
that amendment to the constitution too.
I think your proposal will be extremely well received by the wall street "
investment class". You know, the Romney kind. They have vast amount of
wealth, in the mean time, they... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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发布于: 2014年05月19日 思想库
原文选自彼得森国际经济研究所(PIIE)RealTime Economic Issues Watch项目,发表
时间为2014年4月24日。作者Jacob Funk Kirkegaard是PIIE高级研究员。
法国总理Manuel Valls最近公布了他要在哪些方面削减公共支出,降低企业成本,以及
减少政府赤字的有关细节。法国政府支出早已达到了GDP的大约56%,或者说超过了世界
经济与发展合作组织(OECD)平均水平的10%。对这样一个国家来讲,削减公共开支是
早就应该实施的政策。令某些人感到意外的是,他的计划还包括了下一年要在名义上冻
结公共养老金和社会福利,从而直接指向了公共支出的两个大头——一直以来它们在政
治上都被视为禁忌。
讽刺的是,现在——几乎是欧元区的通货紧缩时代——恰好是一个契机,来冻结福利水
平。在2014年3月之前的12个月中,法国有着0.9%的低通胀水平,但这也使得社会福利
的获得者能够避免政府转移支付价值的实际降低。
从政治上来讲,一个社会主义的总理开始着手应对这一敏感的议题,这毕竟是一个好消
息,即使计划所能节约的资... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: lanjia (蓝葭), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 华人政客就会倾听华人呼声?ACA 4投票展现又一反例!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 4 17:37:20 2015, 美东)
就在独立日那几天,mitbbs.com三藩版出现一篇文章号召给议员打电话反对ACA 4提案
。紧接着,加州微信群里面开始疯传给华裔民主党议员Phil Ting打电话发信的号召贴
,希望他能反对ACA 4的投票。什么是ACA 4?这是民主党提出的一条宪法修正案,目的
是把过去给Parcel Tax加税需要2/3投票赞成的门槛降低到55%赞成票即可。之所以提出
这种法案,是民主党为了方便自己加税而无所不用其极的手段。提案日程显示,7月份
Phil Ting作为committee主席的加州Revenue and Taxation committee要对此审议投票
。如果Phil Ting能投反对票,甚至仅仅是弃权,也是很有意义的一件事。
就在号召微信刚刚发出三个小时之后,群众已经报告,Phil Ting的语音... 阅读全帖
s***r
发帖数: 783
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当年抱怨taxation without representation
现在成了representation without taxation
f******x
发帖数: 98
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来自主题: USANews版 - 真正公平的民主选举制度
国家通过国会收税的基本根据是大宪章里的:no taxation without representation.
同理,no representation without taxation, 所以不交税的人没有投票权是天经地义
的。
实现起来很简单,只要设个最低线,比如个人每年交税5000美元以上才有投票权。无论
超过多少都是一人一票。还以设一个家庭线,比如家庭纳税超过7500美元,居家主妇可
以得到投票权。这么做又符合基本法理,又制止了free rider. 和现在的制度相差
也不多。
f**********n
发帖数: 29853
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他还洋洋洒洒写一堆。
而且investopedia上对double taxation就是楼主的解释。这左派装腔作势的水平真是
了得。

楼主没说double taxation , 他说的是double taxed..
j*********g
发帖数: 3179
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欢迎批判:下面文字摘自slate专稿。
The chief argument of those who advocate eliminating taxes on dividends is
that they are subject to "double taxation." Shareholders pay taxes on
dividends at the rate their ordinary income is taxed. And corporations
cannot deduct dividends from their taxable income, meaning they pay taxes on
them, too. Does that mean that dividends are double taxed? Only if you
subscribe to the belief that corporations don't pay taxes, people do. Under
this theory, since a company's profits a... 阅读全帖
M********e
发帖数: 2528
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Undocumented immigrants paid an estimated $10.6 billion in state and local
taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy,
CNN reported.
The study from the Institute on Taxation & Economic Policy found that
immigrants in the U.S. without legal permission kick in their billions in
the form of income, property, sales or excise taxes.
There were roughly 11 million immigrants estimated to be in the U.S.
illegally as of 2013, according to the report. And each and every sta... 阅读全帖
M*****l
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靠,这就不对了。这种方法动摇了民主社会的根基。
你要分清楚对国家的贡献和对社会、人民的贡献。
不是交税越多对社会贡献越大。像你提到,老兵可能不交个税。同样,学生也可能不交
个税,或者有些某一阶段没有收入的志愿者,以及在家带孩子的主妇,低收入退休老人
等等。这些人不交个税不代表他们应该被剥夺选举权。
往大了说,当一个国家邪恶的时候,税款被滥用的时候,尽量避税并非不爱国的表现。
甚至,美国独立之前,很多独立运动,例如波士顿倾茶事件,本质上就是抗税运动。
右派的核心理念之一就是小政府,而多交税获得更多选举权重则是鼓励大政府。右派坚
信国家是国家,社会是社会,两者是分开的。比如Trump这种雇佣了几万人的企业家,
他就是个人一分钱税不交,贡献也比一辈子从政府拿钱的Bernie Sanders大很多。
而有钱人本来就有更大的发言权,如果再继续扩大他们的投票权重,最后会导致社会上
升通道的收紧,以及贫富差距的增大。
如果要区分,只把纯拿福利的人分开就可以了。要注意纳税人不仅是个税,只要有消费
就有纳税。所以,只要没有享受福利的个人用劳动所得购买商品,那么他就是纳税人,
应该有投票权。
我觉得合理的... 阅读全帖
S*******h
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UNLEASHING AMERICA’S PROSPERITY TO CREATE JOBS AND INCREASE WAGES
Donald J. Trump’s Economic Vision To Break Up The Rigged System In
Washington And Empower Every American To Succeed
(New York, NY) August 8th, 2016 – Donald J. Trump today unveiled his plan
to revitalize America’s economy in a policy speech at the Detroit Economic
Club, focused on providing the tools to every American to succeed
economically.
Donald J. Trump promised to unleash the American economy to spur faster
growth and benefi... 阅读全帖
s*x
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240年前,美国的建国者们为了"No Taxation Without Representation"推翻了英国的
统治,打败了英国派来的总督,完成了美国的独立。
当今的美国,和Buffet站在一起的富人,和布什/泡软站在一起的政客establishment,
和Soros站在一起的美疣还有他们的狗腿子CNN/ABC/CBS等MSM,推出了他们的傀儡希拉
里,他们一直在用Tax把美国的中产变成他们的劳动奴隶,用福利把美国的黑人和其他
低收入者变成他们的投票奴隶。
今天,不查ID的非法移民投票和民主党恶劣的voter fraud 正在侵害每个美国合法公民
神圣的投票权和美国先驱用战争换来的"Taxation With Representation"。希拉里和她
背后的金主们,希望通过舞弊来操纵大选,继续愚民和奴役“We The People”。
床铺每天三场的rally唤醒了越来越多的人,两个星期以后的11/8, 越来越多的Silent
Majorities 会 get out and vote,打败傀儡希拉里,DrainTheSwamp, 把11/8变成美
国的新的独立日。
b********n
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5 Factors that Transform Civil Unrest Into a Full-Blown Revolution
http://readynutrition.com/resources/5-factors-that-transform-unrest-into-full-blown-revolution_28112016/#
We will first list some of the factors that cause an uprising to transform
into an all-encompassing revolution.
1. Economic Factors: This could take the form of an economic collapse and/or
runaway inflation/devaluation of a nation’s currency, as well as chronic
or acute unemployment, lowered manufacturing base accompanied by ... 阅读全帖
j****l
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美国建国的口号之一是No taxation without representation,现在需要新口号No
representation without taxation
别扯什么消费税,有些人消费税也是靠food stamp交的,就是转个手而已
b********n
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 荣炮:We Must Declare Independence
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 4 13:17:38 2017, 美东)
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/july/03/we-must-declare-independence/
As Independence Day comes around again we should spend a few moments between
barbecue and fireworks to think about the meaning of independence. The
colonists who rebelled against the British Crown were, among other things,
unhappy abou... 阅读全帖
n******h
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The history of income taxation in the United States began in the 19th
century with the imposition of income taxes to fund war efforts. However,
the constitutionality of income taxation was widely held in doubt [Pollock v
. Farmers' Loan & Trust Company, 157 U.S. 429 (1895)] "[11] until 1913 with
the ratification of the 16th Amendment.
Coincidentally, or not coincidentally, by December 23, 1913, President
Woodrow Wilson (D) signed the Federal Reserve Act into law.
F*****d
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如果这个解读正确,税改的这个条款是为了给巨富谋取福利,和增加美国国内就业机会
没啥关系。
This is a big flaw in Trump’s plan: The more an American company moves its
profitable operations to countries that have tax rates of 20 percent or
higher—often rich countries that are seen as America’s economic
competitors—the more that company can shift profits to tax havens without
paying taxes on those profits. And the more that U.S. companies already take
advantage of tax havens, the bigger the incentive they will have to
offshore operations to ot... 阅读全帖
J*******0
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大家好,刚来的时候从一个中国同胞那里买了个二手车,08年的PONTIAC G4 (4 doors
). 当初去换Title时,同胞让我写成gift,这样子就可以省掉税钱。当初刚来,对这
种事情也不是很明白。
现在,前两天我收到了STATE of OHIO Department of taxation的一个通知,在这个通
知里说,
Ohio law requires the department of Taxation to conduct a special audit of
all casual(non-dealer )motor vehicle title transfer. our records show that
you received title to the above listed vehicle from ####(seller).
As part of this audit, you are required to complete the questionnaire on the
reverse side of this letter.
Any false re... 阅读全帖
J*******0
发帖数: 17
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大家好,刚来的时候从一个中国同胞那里买了个二手车,08年的PONTIAC G4 (4 doors
). 当初去换Title时,同胞让我写成gift,这样子就可以省掉税钱。当初刚来,对这
种事情也不是很明白。
现在,前两天我收到了STATE of OHIO Department of taxation的一个通知,在这个通
知里说,
Ohio law requires the department of Taxation to conduct a special audit of
all casual(non-dealer )motor vehicle title transfer. our records show that
you received title to the above listed vehicle from ####(seller).
As part of this audit, you are required to complete the questionnaire on the
reverse side of this letter.
Any false re... 阅读全帖
b****w
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来自主题: Faculty版 - 请问关于faculty的tax treaty问题
IRS 回信了,但是跟没说一样....
The Answer To Your Question Is:
Thank you for your recent inquiry concerning the U.S. China Income Tax
Treaty as it relates to teachers. I apologize for the delay in our response
to your question.
An individual who is a resident of the People's Republic of China and who is
temporarily in the United States primarily to teach, lecture, or conduct
research at a university or other accredited educational institution or
scientific research institution is exempt from U.S. income t... 阅读全帖
S*******s
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从退休金帐号里头借钱出来buy house,相当于给自己来个double taxation,尽管其中
一次税是延后交的。
一个更好的办法是:钱多的时候,用cash-intensive life insurance Policy来藏,然
后从Policy的cash value里头借钱不用交税,赚取的红利部分也不用交税。 寿险不再
是传统的“死了就给N倍钱,不死不给钱”的概念,现代的保险已经是用来达到2个目的:
要么活着时拿living benefit“拿出一大笔钱出来用还不用交税”;要么等死了之后孩
子们拿一笔“死亡赔偿金”, 2者取其一。
之所以说“2者取其一”是因为:你如果更在乎living benefit,想用这个工具藏钱,
10多年后再借出免税的现金来支付大学费/买房, 那么你要明白的是,这个借款可以不
还,利息也可以用分红来还,但是最后人死了,家属拿到的遗产/赔偿金就会相应地减
少了。
反过来, 如果你光想要Death benefit, 不想要living benefit, 只希望死后留一笔
遗产给家属,而生前根本不需要提取里头的现金,那么,设计的时候,可以把policy设
计... 阅读全帖
f*******n
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什么double taxation?这个概念完全错的。
假如利息是4%。一个情况是你从401k借,你交4%的利息。你的401k得到4%的回报。
假如你不从你401k借,你从一个银行借,4%利息。跟着同时你在401k里面投资一个有4
%回报的投资。
有什么区别?这两个情况对你来说是完全一样的。只不过你从401k借的时候,你自己的
401k当“银行”而已。两个都是你借出来的钱都是不用交税的(税后的),而你还回去
的钱也是税后的。但是你会说第二个情况是“double taxation”吗?

的:
y***o
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来自主题: Living版 - Re: 卖房纳税问题请教
if foreign status for taxation purpose, escrow company will have obligation to
withheld 3.x% or some percent (don't remember) of sale price for irs.
if non foreign status for taxation purpose, then
if primary residence, + 2 years living in the property, escrow company doesn't
need to report to irs.
if primary residence, less than 2 years of living, escrow company needs to
report to irs, however, escrow company doesn't need to withhold tax for them.
when u file return, u can either treat the gain
s*****u
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There is a double taxation myth that has been widely accepted when it
comes to 401k loans. This myth has been promoted by trusted sources and
so called financial experts alike. The double taxation warning goes
something like this: When you invest in a 401k plan, the money hasn’t been
taxed yet. So, when you go to repay your 401k loan, you have to do it with
income that’s already been taxed. Then, when you finally make a
401k withdraw in retirement; the money will be taxed again. Ultimately, that
s*****n
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Compared to getting a mortgage with tax benefit, double taxation on 401K is
not totally a myth, it is true but its magnitude is very minimal.
The interest part of 401K loan repayment is indeed doubled taxed. You use
post-tax money to pay the loan back, but it becomes pre-tax money into the
loan. If you get a mortgage from a bank, you still use post-tax money to pay
the mortgage, but at least you get the interest deducted from from tax
return (in most cases).
However, the dollar amount as a resul... 阅读全帖
y****i
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y****i
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401(k) loan double taxation is really a myth
https://thefinancebuff.com/401k-loan-double-taxation-myth.html
read Jonathan Peng's two articles at My Money Blog as well
a*****n
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来自主题: Postdoc版 - 请教j1交税的问题
FTB Pub. 1031, page 7:
Tax Treaty
A tax treaty between the U.S. Government and a foreign country may exempt
some types of income from federal taxation. Generally, unless the treaty
specifically excludes the income from taxation by California, the income
is taxable.
n*******y
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50
来自主题: StartUp版 - 被会计师事务所坑了
LLC can not be converted to C-corp.
呵呵,如有大把钱赚,可采用以下形式:
You can own LLC and C-corp at the same time.
Keep the LLC and start an C-corp as subsidery to LLC. ie. your LLC is 100%
share holder of the new C-corp. This way all profit of C-corp can be
forwarded to LLC and you can enjoy the pass thru taxation benefit of LLC
while filing your taxes.
This translates to no double taxation to your C-corp in this setup.
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