ET
发帖数: 10701 | 1 ywong是工作关系。当然，也可能有实力。
teeski是有实力。 |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 2 ET and Teeski,
Thank you both for the help! I think Teeski is right. I need to focus on the
basics, getting my swing right first. Worrying about carry and roll is
beyond my current level.
As for keeping the head steady, yes, I have been trying. When I swing hard,
i can see that my head tend to drop a bit and I have to compensate it by
pulling the club further left, from the video I shot.
The problem if I am concerned too much about steady head position, I always
lose a lot of distance.
One frust |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 3 he carried 225 yard, since hit flag stick before landing, have to add a
couple of yard to carry distance. 227 yard. roll another 10 yards, say 235
yard for usually 3i distance. tiger's caliber....
seem that teeski play for long time, when hybrid not yet popular then.
teeski niu ah, not for 225 3i, or 2shot reaching 505 green, but hesitant to
mention score 79
guess he socre around even at 7k course usually. |
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x*h
发帖数: 757 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 Travel 讨论区 】
发信人: teeski (竹之下), 信区: Travel
标 题: Re: 芝加哥凭什么能申请到奥运
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 3 10:33:07 2009, 美东)
你没去过rio吧？如果在芝加哥走路没安全感，建议你最好不要在rio走路。
driver很 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 5 no. i was asking teeski..
ID,
I
not
rolling.
par |
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 6 i think it boils down to what clubs one feels more comfortable with. i am
comfortable with a iron approach shots from 150 range, but very unonfortable
with hitting a driver into a well guarded narrow fairway. my 2/3 iron off
the tee into a 380 par 4 give me more chances for par than driver off the
tee.
if i want birdie, yes, driver/wedge is a better bad. but if i miss fire the
driver, we will be talking about bogey or worse.
btw, i am teeski, not soundview. |
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z**z
发帖数: 231 | 7 呵呵，人家可是很general地说达到200码不费力（不仅仅是可以做到，而是不费力，还
有上升空间），你可以去看看原帖。这个时候我当然考虑到的是一般条件下。我要是问
别人是不是在downhill, downwind的情况下，别人可能还不乐意呢。人家可是来接受大
家的敬仰朝拜的。
原来所谓的几号杆可以打多远，还可以在前面加定语的。ET，请问一下你的7号杆打160
多码是在什么情况下啊？有什么严格的海拔地形，风速，空气湿度要求啊？teeski，要
不要麻烦你给ET也考虑考虑，分析分析？
你举出例子说姚明爆发力好，呵呵，估计月球人都笑了（本人绝对姚蜜）。我暂且不反
对刘翔（他的爆发力远强于一般人），虽然他是靠节奏取胜。。。
想问一个技术问题，如果7iron不是很费力的达到200码，swing speed得到多少啊？130，140mph或者更高？PGA Tour上有几个人能做到？
我远不是什么高手，去年7月份才开始，背伤一个月，冬天5个月，总共打球6个月，
7iron165码左右。很好奇，如果有机会看咱们中国人7iron打200码，那得是多么“壮观
”的一个Swing啊！
个人觉得，吹吹牛不要 |
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z**z
发帖数: 231 | 8 多谢teeski，我感觉从店里买新杆好像很贵呀。只是不知道这样换着用，会不会对技术
的成型有影响？ET老大，你以前不是有过很多Iron Set吗？能不能给点意见？多谢了。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 9 lol, i read the same article.
"But the question is still valid: Do golfers need to be good first to play
blades, or do they become good by playing blades? "
looks to me that:
ET said: you need to be good to play blades.
teeski said: you become good by playing blades. |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 10 您对course management的心得？
我打得球场多是我相当熟悉的，没什么太多的management。曾近用过favorite
distance for approach shot的方式，每轮能拿不少birdies ,巅峰过一个月，后来也
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 12 这个题目太大，不是一两句说得清楚。
还是套用兵法上的那句话，要知己知彼。
明白自己的长处和短处，尽量扬长避短。比如我自己的铁杆相对最拿手，击球距离较远
，只要球在球道上远一点打上果岭地百分比也比较高，所以开球时尽量保守。另外我不
喜欢长草，宁愿沙坑。
知道球场的特点，如果如果比赛最好先试打几次。每个洞都有既定方针，而且根据自己
的状态和天气情况。
举个例子，有一次和老师在场上选课，到了一个五百零几码的右拐狗腿型五杆洞，因为
以前打过许多次，有过不少birdies, 也有过eagle(当然也有过许多double bogey),所
以举杆就朝右拐的方向瞄准，老师马上拦住，问我，如果球偏右打失，会怎么样？我说
是OB。老师又问我，如果瞄fairway左边，球打失，会怎么样？我答，是长草，但球会
找得到。老师说，他打球的时候都是瞄左边，即使开球不好，也可以拿par，甚至可以
靠approach shot和推杆拿birdie，但是瞄右边，开球不好就是先失两杆。哪一个risk/
reward更合理，不言而逾。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 that is still very good.
i know you might not look at it my way. //kaka
i played with couple guys in low 80s few recent rounds. what i can say is "g
olf swing is a very fragile thing", as teeski were saying.
since they can still beat me with not so perfect swing, but they were feelin
g very bad by themself.
keep us posted, i know everyone would go through that same stage. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 14 that is still very good.
i know you might not look at it my way. //kaka
i played with couple guys in low 80s few recent rounds. what i can say is "g
olf swing is a very fragile thing", as teeski were saying.
since they can still beat me with not so perfect swing, but they were feelin
g very bad by themself.
keep us posted, i know everyone would go through that same stage. |
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 15 推杆是个熟能生巧的技术，跟卖油翁一个道理。
我承认我推杆不错，因为我每周至少花三个三十分钟练切球和推杆。
我用的是传统 blade 推杆，传统握法。用过 mallet ，感觉不好，特别是长推的距离
感不好。
我打的球场果岭速度都不低。我喜欢速度快的果岭，或者下坡推。慢的果岭，或是大上
坡，因为要多用力，会把推杆里的动作缺陷都放大了。
不过如果球场设置都象 teeski 描述的那样 sadistic ，我也难保没有三推。
我说的那场球最后打了 77 ,
Fairway Hit 2/13， 5 of the misses were just in the intermediate rough
GIR 8/18
29 putts |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 16 good..
Yeah.. i don't think i have any chance to visit Pilly by the end of this
year and next spring either.
Teeski might join us as well, if he has the time..
I |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 17 i guess teeski is saying that camilo doesn't do the parrael thing at the top. |
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f******n
发帖数: 175 | 18 谢谢teeski.
quote了一个价格，929。计划两个人去，呆10天。这是他们的手册。
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b********5
发帖数: 253 | 19 teeski 兄， 我在国内广西南宁打的球，我去的是每周的＂会员费日＂，只是半价，正
常要花１２００块。球场确实很好。
但是国内打球并不如我们想的那么贵，我在上海打过，价钱不算贵，比广西还便宜。 |
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b********5
发帖数: 253 | 20 呵呵。。。谢谢各位。。。我这个星期再试试＂保守式打法＂，看看能不能再出好成绩
。。。如果下周我不来这里炫耀，大家就知道我没打好了。。。呵呵。。。另外，
teeski 兄所言极是，不能有多的DOUBLE BOGEYS，否则成绩不会好，因为拿BIRDIE的机
会不多，补不回来。。。更别说TRIPLE BOGEYS 或者其它更惨的了。
这个＂保守式打法＂也不容易，我发现打得顺的时候容易忘记自己的斤两，往往求险，
然后打砸，而又没有TIGER的救球神功。。。呵呵。。。我要淡定，要淡定。 |
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r*********l
发帖数: 120 | 21 pound ridge是不错的course啊，one of best courses in U.S.you can play.但也要
大概200刀吧
teeski周末来不来Saxon Woods聚聚？ 下午3:15pm
球僮吗？ |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 22 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
pangdudu (dudu) 于 (Fri Jul 18 16:37:22 2008) 提到:
开始学快两月了.不过还没看过高尔夫比赛.同志们主要是学习技术呢还是欣赏比赛的竞
技性?我知道任何比赛都有竞技性.但总觉的高球上这点差点儿.八月份,再开始好了.
另:这版真是人烟罕至啊
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typhoon (无所谓) 于 (Sat Jul 19 01:45:54 2008) 提到:
You can start it by watching majors. Majors are always fun and exciting.
Some regular pga event could be boring.
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teeski (T&S) 于 (Sat Jul 19 10:04:51 2008) 提到:
绝大多数人是看热闹。没有几个人是为了 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 27 我是说得多，而且是站在牛人的身边，能经常观察牛人打球而已。
另外，我觉得我有点easy way to learn the game的一些心得。
that's all. |
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d***t
发帖数: 210 | 28 天外有天...在这儿看到的不是一个两个牛，是牛群啊。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 30 你也很牛
本版牛人多是大好事，能给出很多建议
at least from their perspective,
GOLF就想小马过河，牛人先过自然知道水多深 |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 32 我看还有不少牛人，经常来看看，懒得说。呵呵。标准的藏龙卧虎。 |
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m****n
发帖数: 815 | 33 I for one appreciate your expertise. |
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 34 牛人俺是不敢当，和这里的大多球友一样，俺只是一个普通的高尔夫发烧友，也许球龄
比大多人多两年。
同意你说得这个版上藏龙卧虎的说法，大家公认的老大ET球技绝对在俺之上，还有许多
70+杆的球手也经常出没，估计潜水的更多。挺喜欢来这里灌水，大家各抒己见，互相
学习。 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 35 我甘拜下风。
我们这常打的场地,jimmy clay #12,3杆洞 skins game时的setup从233码到218码。 我
一直都是从5woods - 3 woods，夏季；有时用driver，冬季。最靠近的时候是2米有一次
，6 iron， 风从正后面吹大概有20-30mph.
这里没太多70+的球员。以前power pig说他的一个朋友是吧，也在nyc的。我的成绩就分
布在mid-70到mid-80之间。我觉得也比较合理，就练习和打场地以及成绩而言的分布。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 36 上次谁在FL来着，好象是SINGLE DIGIT HANDI
我觉得能破八都是很牛的了
一次
就分 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 37 heard that have to use good ball (easy to take spin) and club (nice groves).
then cut ball very hard. seems that pro use that to work with green and pin
location.
so it's advanced part of the game,
for mid and high handicapper, there are too many other things to work on...
probably ET and teeski has a lot of experience with this kind of stuff... |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 38 有一段时间我在RANGE上可以用8IRON以下的杆打出很不错的BACK SPIN,但当时觉得没什
么太大意义,因为还有很多别的SWING问题要解决,后来慢慢随着动作的改变,BACKSPIN也
就没有了.我想你要是能HIT IT HARD WITH A STEEP DESCENDING BLOW,就能打出来,但
代价恐怕是容易打FAT了.我想对我们这些业余爱好者来说STRAIGHT, SOLID, SHAPE THE
BALL更重要吧.到了ET,TEESKI那个LEVEL可能在考虑BACK SPIN不迟. |
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A*f
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powerpig (旋风猪，坚决不买日货) 于 (Sat Jun 21 21:24:18 2008) 提到:
It works so well with my Mogul. Saved me $300 for a golf gps. :)
If you have a WM cell phone with GPS, get it and you will like it.
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teeski (T&S) 于 (Sun Jun 22 09:32:53 2008) 提到:
这个caddie给扛球包吗？呵呵。
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ET (Go on. Be a Tiger.) 于 (Sun Jun 22 13:29:10 2008) 提到:
it's a good one.. and it was an idea in my mind back to 2 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 40 GOOGLE一圈
原来让球让最难的洞是为了保护LOW-HANDI的利益，原因就是容易的洞HIGH-HANDI会PAR
，对高手不公平
不过暂时还没查到，有不同水平的让球怎么让法
大部分都只提到跟TEESKI说的相同的方法，即按水平最高的人，每个人跟他比拿最难的
几个洞为让杆
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d***t
发帖数: 210 | 41 Aff -end of sept, for a week.
teeski -I read about the notorious afternoon winds, but have to see it to
believe. Currently the plantation course is a must as my buddy insists,
which makes me worry about losing too many balls. We are also interested in
Wailea for the 2nd round...can't wait |
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r*********l
发帖数: 120 | 42 要不teeski就组织以个NY/NJ/CT的比赛啊，以NE今年的气候，能再打一个月就不错了 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 43 most pros are dropping their 3 irons now.
there are just too much overlap between 5 woods, 3hybrid and 3 iron, alot of
pros inter-change 5 woods with 2 irons just as Tiger did depend on which
course they are playing.
i built my bag around which club i saw on sale, when i start playing, i like
driver since it gets me further than any other club, which as a beginner
that is the most important thing on mind. but i cant use driver on fairway (
teeski was suggesting to use that, but i just cant pull |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 44 aiming the left side is the high reward way to play, basically you cut the c
orner. but as teeski said, if you hook, your ball would be out of bound, i j
ust think it is too risky.
level。 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 45 teeski是西红柿你需要well-respect的一个id... |
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t*****n
发帖数: 467 | 46 指点实在是不敢当。Lots of ppl on this board play much better than me.
Sorry I don't know any good coach in NJ. Maybe teeski can recommend one for
you.
We can definitely play together sometime. rustonewall and I try to play
together in morristown on Aug 7th. probably too far from you.
btw: who is jim lin? |
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 47 我和 teeski 有同感，都是觉得 3 wood 在球道里不好打，可能是我们下杆的角度太陡
的原因，下次练球要多体会体会“横扫”的感觉 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 49 我是3年前用过半年x18 pro 的铁杆和一小段X FORGE。 当时也是觉着用难一点的杆儿
会提高快一点。 后来发现还是太强求自己。 我觉得TEESKI已经是very good golfer
了当然能体会到x forge的好处。 LZ说他7号杆140，应该水平在high 90的样子所以x
forge不一定是好的选择 呵呵．BTW Forge的球杆的手感如果打中的话确实比cavity的
要好太多了。
callaway |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 50 Next time organize trip be sure to invite teeski so I can eat his $50
leftovers :D |
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