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k***r
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来自主题: History版 - 西周时期诸侯们都在干什么?
也不是都是这么平和的故事,有个齐什么公被纪国还是鲁国的公在周王那说了些坏话,
被周王烹杀了。西周还是有些故事的。
编辑,当时读到这个故事第一是感慨周王的权利那时候多牛啊,接着联想到game of
thrones了呵呵。
K**********n
发帖数: 10466
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省着一堆人说芬兰自古以来是俄罗斯的领土,我代表我大瑞典以及斯堪的纳维亚联邦悲
愤不已:21世纪不逼俄罗斯放出诺盖、西伯利亚、克山等国,我等誓不罢休。
游戏类型: 历史、模拟、大地图、战略,相对强调战略和拟真。
游戏时间跨度:从1444年开始,奥斯曼崛起,直到1821年结束,模拟中世纪后期、殖民
时代,以全世界为背景,最后两个剧本是法国革命和美国独立。选用一个国家作为玩家
扮演。
游戏重点部分简介:
外交:外交是欧陆类做得最好最细致的,不是一般游戏只有简单的只有结盟、破盟、宣
战,而是考虑非常多因素。有Vassal(附属国),并且可以合并附属国;有Personal
Union(不会翻译),类似于两个国家联合统治;联姻后如果对方没有继承人可以Claim
Throne,从而引发继承战争(如历史上的西班牙继承战争);有包围网概念。
外交的复杂使得大国不敢太过于嚣张,在扩张和吞并中要考虑其他国家的想法,同时不
能随便进攻姻亲国;而小国则可以通过联盟、联合和包围网而有更多的生存机会。
内政:内政做得也极其好,主要突出贸易、叛乱、殖民和文化、宗教。贸易比较复杂,
比军事还要复杂;叛乱由多个因素引起,... 阅读全帖
c**2
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by Europe's marriage standard, Emperor KangXi will have no need to pick his
successor, because only 2nd son is eligible, all OTHER sons are 私生子 and
no legal right to the throne.
K**********n
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不是。
联姻的话必须是公主,这样的话出现继承人危机时可以claim throne,西方都是这么玩
的;东方没听说过。
和亲那种……不一样的……
K**********n
发帖数: 10466
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所以唐claim了回鹘的throne了?
后来不是划了脸么?是那个么?
K**********n
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好像是以回鹘的习俗,把脸划花了,毁容了,然后回去的。
好像从来没claim 过 throne
K**********n
发帖数: 10466
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人客气几句,你还当真了?
再说这句话说明,回鹘想claim唐德宗的throne。大可汗不傻,想说他对大唐全境是有
claim的。
M*P
发帖数: 6456
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来自主题: History版 - 只有中国历史上有宦官嘛?
game of throne

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
h*i
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封建制时候的帝,和后来大一统时代的帝不是一会事。封建制的“帝”,其实就是各个
部落承认的霸主部落而已。
其实看看Game of throne就有点感性认识了,封建制的帝有点像GOT里面的king, 并不
实际控制各地的领主,无非是各个领主向他宣誓效忠而已。商侯一开始向夏帝效忠,自
己实力大了,就把夏推翻了,与GOT里面各个house之间的关系其实差不多(其实也就是
欧洲中世纪的政治生态)。
夏朝,就是house of 夏作霸主的时代,肯定是存在的。在这之前,肯定还有其他的霸
主house,也是存在的。不奇怪。
c******o
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under two conditions:
1. Official marriage (monogram)
2. Royal blood (acknowledgment)
Thus if a Barbarian is an offspring of a late Chieftain, who marry a
princess of the kingdom (queen, not mistress), he has the claim to the
throne.
It does not matter if the marriage is force or not.
It does not matter if he carry the royal blood or not, as long as he is
recognized by the House as the issue of the Princess.
c**2
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when you want to claim the throne through blood line, the closer your blood
to the last monarch, the higher hierarchy you are in the line of succession.
c***r
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John Snow真是太感情用事了,完全不是带兵的料。
Z**********g
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当时好多人在阵中间挖坑想逃生。
汉尼拔真是四大名将之首,太牛逼了。
估计6火6冲6机动2攻城。
c***r
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m***n
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Hanni-baal
這個名字的意思是: 巴尔的战士,或者巴力的战士
耶戶招聚眾民,對他們說:「亞哈事奉巴力還冷淡,耶戶卻更熱心。19現在我要給巴力
獻大祭。應當叫巴力的眾先知和一切拜巴力的人,並巴力的眾祭司,都到我這裏來,不
可缺少一個;凡不來的必不得活。」耶戶這樣行,是用詭計要殺盡拜巴力的人。20耶戶
說:「要為巴力宣告嚴肅會!」於是宣告了。21耶戶差人走遍以色列地;凡拜巴力的人
都來齊了,沒有一個不來的。他們進了巴力廟,巴力廟中從前邊直到後邊都滿了人。22
耶戶吩咐掌管禮服的人說:「拿出禮服來,給一切拜巴力的人穿。」他就拿出禮服來給
了他們。23耶戶和利甲的兒子約拿達進了巴力廟,對拜巴力的人說:「你們察看察看,
在你們這裏不可有耶和華的僕人,只可容留拜巴力的人。」24耶戶和約拿達進去,獻平
安祭和燔祭。
耶戶先安派八十人在廟外,吩咐說:「我將這些人交在你們手中,若有一人脫逃,誰放
的必叫他償命!」 25耶戶獻完了燔祭,就出來吩咐護衛兵和眾軍長說:「你們進去殺
他們,不容一人出來!」護衛兵和軍長就用刀殺他們,將屍首拋出去,便到巴力廟的城
去了,26將巴力廟中的柱像都拿出來燒了;27... 阅读全帖
h*i
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来自主题: History版 - 李硕:周灭商与华夏新生
这个拍成电视连续剧的话,比Game of Throne要好看多了。
v**e
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夏 传 子 , 家 天 下 。
Under the Hsia dynasty the throne was transmitted from father to son, making
a family possession of the empire.
sì bǎi zǎi , qiān xià shè 。
四 百 载 , 迁 夏 社 。
After four hundred years, the Imperial sacrifice passed from the House of
Hsia.
tānɡ fá xià , ɡuó hào shānɡ 。
汤 伐 夏 , 国 号 商 。
T'ang the completer destroyed the Hsia Dynasty and the dynastic title became
Shang.
liù bǎi zǎi , zhì zhòu wánɡ 。
六 百 载 , 至 纣 亡 。
The line lasted for six hundred years, end... 阅读全帖
a***e
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没记录而已
尼玛毒气室witch hunt可不是中国人教的
你因为懂中文,所以中文的烂事知道多一些
看看那个game of throne,尼玛那个是相当的西欧历史写实

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来自主题: History版 - The liberty bell:::
The Liberty Bell
Liberty Bell
Tradition tells of a chime that changed the world on July 8, 1776, with the
Liberty Bell ringing out from the tower of Independence Hall summoning the
citizens of Philadelphia to hear the first public reading of the Declaration
of Independence by Colonel John Nixon.
The Pennsylvania Assembly ordered the Bell in 1751 to commemorate the 50-
year anniversary of William Penn's 1701 Charter of Privileges, Pennsylvania'
s original Constitution. It speaks of the rights and... 阅读全帖
M*P
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来自主题: History版 - 以小分队的形式攻击游牧民族
问题是中原民族没有这么兴师动众消灭游牧民族的动力。皇帝贵族有钱了在江南开妓院
比往北方扩张更有吸引力。
跟game of throne一样,去北边戍边的都是穷人,强盗和罪犯。

:对付游牧民族的唯一办法就是杀人,移民而且移民半游牧化。
m***n
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来自主题: History版 - 灭九族是不是只有中国有?
因为对21世纪的美国人,可能中国长城比英国长城更有名了。
美国人看了功夫熊猫,花木兰(里面有长城),
以前可未必。
至于玄幻小说,无所谓中世界和古典世界的区别,大家愿意怎么写就怎么写。很多西方
的玄幻小说是把古典和中世纪混合起来的。有的还加入伊斯兰和印度的元素。一般,加
入中国元素的很少,甚至比日本元素还少。
比如moontide系列,里面有Rimoni帝国,想要征服世界,明显是罗马的投射,有Agundy
,是勃艮地的变形,有inquisitor,是对宗教裁判所的想象,有十字军,别说了,有
Dakka,有Baranasi圣城,明显是印度的Varanasi,可以去神河洗澡,有Zain宗教的苦
修士,是西方对印度苦行僧和西藏喇嘛的想象的混合。喇嘛都擅长武术,拒绝任何偶像
崇拜,那又是混进去了中国禅宗的元素。有苏丹,苏丹有阉人军团和庞大后宫,这也有
历史元素。
同样,game of throne 里面的商业城邦,有古希腊的模样,里面的高地长城,黑暗之
塔,是苏格兰和长城的变形,有 unsullied 阉人军团,是土耳其近卫军和麻木鲁克兵
团的历史投影。

呢?
x*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - Let's pray for peace, not for war
Kim Jong-il doesn't want a war. He just wants to pass his throne to his
third son easily.
Vice Marshal Kim Il-chol, no matter it was you who lauched the surprise
attack on South Korean warship or not, you are doomed. Kim Jong-il demoted
you twice, but still kept you there for so long because you had a huge
influence on the Korean People's Army Naval Force. When you appeared in
public after Chief of KPA General Staff General Ri Yong-ho and First Vice-
Director of KPA General Political Bureau Gene
c**i
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(1) To those who do not know a thing, The posting refers to
杭州图书馆对乞丐拾荒者免费开放 引一些读者不满http://mitbbs.com/article/Military/35073075_3.html
, which in turn copied without attribution or authorization from the Jan 19,
2011 issue of 青年时报 in Zhejiang.
(2) I never imagine that this is debatable. Not in US or Taiwan, anyway.
(a) How can you tell a person is a beggar in the first place?
(b) In US, there is a federal constitution.
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.or... 阅读全帖
k*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - 王子的后脑勺 (转载)
no hair (heir) to the throne !
皇上无毛(后)
英语更毒些啊。
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - Pope都开始tweet了
Pope sends first tweet, launching new Vatican site
By Richard Allen Greene, CNN
(CNN) - Twitter welcomed a new user Tuesday - one who already has more than
one billion followers.
Pope Benedict XVI used Twitter to announce the launch of a new Vatican
website, timed to coincide with the 60th anniversary of his ordination as a
priest.
The website, News.va, showed a photo of the pope with what appeared to be an
iPad.
"The pope sent it, but it was prepared for him," Benedict's spokesman, the
Rev. Fed... 阅读全帖
w**j
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来自主题: Military版 - God - the baby killer
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of
Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the
firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their
livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of
Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the
land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (
Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
w**j
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来自主题: Military版 - Murder in the Bible (Evil Bible.com)
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible,
especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be
killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing
your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to
these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's
irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any
rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of... 阅读全帖
p******o
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来自主题: Military版 - Interesting article from Bloomberg
Is today 1844 alike?
How Marx Came to Discover the Alienation of Labor: Mary Gabriel
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-22/how-marx-discovered-th
Logo_post_b
Print Back to story
How Marx Came to Discover the Alienation of Labor: Mary Gabriel
By Mary Gabriel - Sep 21, 2011
Joblessness was liberating for Karl Marx in 1844 -- it meant he could go
back to school. His classrooms were Paris’ gaslit cafes and wine cellars,
and small offices filled with cigar smoke.
There were no lectures, there were... 阅读全帖
j******n
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内容提要:
1、人民并不代表正义的意思,人民常犯错,又可怜又愚蠢又自私。
2、帝制符合人天生的本性。
3、呼吁胡哥早正大位,要恢复中华传统文化,必先恢复中华传统体制。
4、怎样衡量一个制度的好坏。
5、怎样的人才能做皇帝。
6、怎样维持帝制的稳定。
7、略谈中国帝制史。
在《论语•子路》里有这么个故事:“叶公语孔子曰:‘吾党有直躬者,其父攘
羊,而子证之。’孔子曰:‘吾党之直者异于是。父为子隐,子为父隐,直在其中矣。
’”(叶公告诉孔子说:“我的家乡有个正直的人,他的父亲偷了人家的羊,他告发了
父亲。”孔子说:“我家乡的正直的人和你讲的正直人不一样:父亲为儿子隐瞒,儿子
为父亲隐瞒。正直就在其中了。”)这个故事说明什么呢?说明即使是孔子也认为人性
自私是其本性,父子对外相互隐瞒罪行才算是正直的人,因为这才是真情的流露。相反
,那种本来可以逃避法律惩罚的,却主动大义灭亲,儿子举报父亲的行为听起来好象很
正直,实际却和人性本来的面目有冲突,反倒显得是虚假的、造作的、别有用心的,算
不上正直。
事实上无论是哪个圣贤都认定人是自私的,是生下来就要为恶的,而且呼吸之间就能变
坏,变好... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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'Universal' means be servants to U.S. forever.
What Chinese are thinking is absolutely the contrary: throne circulates
around the world and this year is my turn. That means after dominating the
world for 200 years, the western should considered the future of being
dominated for a couple hundreds of years.
y***u
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第九章 对于异族的再教育 (4)
分而治之,他们就不会形成反抗,因为钱在我们手里(货币发行权, 就是说,让这些
国家承受债务,就能有效控制他们的反抗)。
在有远见的皇权(或者中央集权)和盲目的民众之间, 要架设相互敌视的堡垒, 就能
防止他们联合的反抗。盲目的民众是我们利用的力量,我们会安排领导,让这个力量来
摧毁中央集权 (通过媒体,法律,金融间谍架空)。
The people have raised a howl about the necessity of settling the question
of Socialism by way of an international agreement. DIVISION INTO FRACTIONAL
PARTIES HAS GIVEN THEM INTO OUR HANDS, FOR, IN ORDER TO CARRY ON A CONTESTED
STRUGGLE ONE MUST HAVE MONEY, AND THE MONEY IS ALL IN OUR HANDS.
We might have reason to ap... 阅读全帖
s********s
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来自主题: Military版 - The Opium War,真正的赢家?
呵呵,楼上的两位搞笑了.
我从网上搞到了一些片断,看出来Julia的发现:林则徐明显害苦了道光...,太书生气,容
易冲动,没有考虑后果.
转个the observer的书评
In July 1840 a fleet of British warships approached the southern coast of
China, intent on avenging a series of insults and injuries inflicted on
British subjects over the preceding months. The first battle lasted nine
minutes. Thus began the first opium war, a series of unequal military
encounters lasting until 1842. A second opium war culminated in 1860 with
the looting and burning of the imperial pleasure ... 阅读全帖
y***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 德意志帝国灭亡的原因
Light was shed on those words at the trial of the assassins who murdered the
heir to the Austrian throne, and his wife, on June 28th, 1914.
Pharos’ shorthand notes of the Military Trial is a most enlightening
document. They provide further evidence that the international bankers used
the Grand Orient Lodges to bring about World War One, as they used them in
1787-1789 to bring about the French Revolution. On October 12, 1914, the
president of the military court questioned Cabrinovic, who thr... 阅读全帖
u***r
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来自主题: Military版 - 【Economist】国家资本
http://www.economist.com/node/21542930
Going abroad
The world in their hands
State capitalism looks outward as well as inward
IT IS FITTING that China’s national symbol should be an animal that spends
16 hours a day eating bamboo. China is an energy panda that is obsessed by
the question of where its next mouthful of bamboo will come from. The
Chinese elite sees the world in terms of brutal competition for limited
resources. And it has no truck with Western ideas about relying on the
market. (“W... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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来自主题: Military版 - 左右之争毫无意义

Who said all the people can survive the next world war?
Finally, the population that's gonna enjoy rich life will still be
around
800- 900 million, but they are survivors of the next world war.
Throne has to be won over, not be born to. In Chinese, it is called
"Wang
Hou Jiang Xiang, Ning You Zhong Hu".
China's next generation should curve this motto in their hearts and then
go
to take over the world order.
y***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 闭幕式中凤凰涅磐意味着什么?
Olympics' Blatant Occult Symbolism & Message
by Marcos
2012-0813
No Olympics has been as blatant about its Luciferian message as the London
Olympics 2012. Olympics reveals real meaning of "secular" : pagan, satanic.
The Olympics started as a religious ritual for Zeus in Ancient Greece. The
Olympic pyre must be lit by the rays from the Sun (Lucifer) and paraded to
the stadium with all reverence.
This famous ritual presented the Illuminati with an excellent opportunity to
openly worship the devil.... 阅读全帖
l**********r
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来自主题: Military版 - 沙皇一家的生活照 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区 】
发信人: iForpus (coelestis), 信区: History
标 题: 沙皇一家的生活照
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug 12 00:42:36 2012, 美东)
Nikolay II was an examplary family man. He spent all his spare time with his
family. True love and spiritual consonance distinguished this family from
many others.
Nokolay spent much time with his daughters, read them books and historic
works. He also never forgot about sport and hunting.
The Romanovs’ children: Anastacia, Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Alexey.
Empress Alexandra F... 阅读全帖
m**p
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/world/asia/china-vice-president/i
Absence of Chinese vice president fuels intrigue before power transition
Beijing (CNN) -- The conspicuous absence from public view of China's
presumptive next top leader is adding new uncertainty to the succession plan
for the normally secretive Communist leadership.
For ten days, Vice President Xi Jinping has dropped off the radar of state-
run domestic news media, which usually meticulously record official
activities of senior lea... 阅读全帖
l**********3
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By Kathrin Hille in Beijing and Jamil Anderlini in Tianjin
When Lin Biao, China’s then heir apparent, died in a aeroplane crash, it
took the Communist party two month... 阅读全帖
I*D
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The rebellion of 1857 and its consequences
States during the rebellion
Main article: Indian rebellion of 1857
The Indian rebellion of 1857 was a large-scale rebellion in northern and
central India against the British East India Company's rule. It was
suppressed and the British government took control of the Company.
The conditions of service in the Company's army and cantonments increasingly
came into conflict with the religious beliefs and prejudices of the sepoys.
[7] The predominance of membe... 阅读全帖
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ft
homeland
lost
prison break
game of thrones
不都是神剧吗
就算是
walking dead
true blood
breaking bad
也能看看
我觉得比一般的国产连续剧好看多了
国产只有个别还行的
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来自主题: Military版 - 别枪毙了, 干脆就用铡刀
LOL, 想起Game of Thrones里面Tyrion的一句台词:Heads, spikes, walls.
h******t
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来自主题: Military版 - Eve of Disaster. a well written article
Eve of Disaster
Why 2013 eerily looks like the world of 1913, on the cusp of the Great War.
BY CHARLES EMMERSON
The leading power of the age is in relative decline, beset by political
crisis at home and by steadily eroding economic prowess. Rising powers are
jostling for position in the four corners of the world, some seeking a new
place for themselves within the current global order, others questioning its
very legitimacy. Democracy and despotism are locked in uneasy competition.
A world econom... 阅读全帖
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British Prime Minister David Cameron says a giant diamond his country forced
India to hand over in the colonial era that was set in a royal crown will
not be returned.
Speaking on the third and final day of a visit to India aimed at drumming up
trade and investment, Cameron ruled out handing back the 105-carat Koh-i-
Noor diamond, now on display in the Tower of London. The diamond had been
set in the crown of the current Queen Elizabeth's late mother.
One of the world's largest diamonds, some In... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - WHAT THE FRENCHMAN SAYS ABOUT INDIA?
by Francois Gautier ·
Like Sonia Gandhi, I am a Westerner and a brought-up catholic. My
father, a very good man, was a staunch Christian; my uncle, whom I
doted upon, was the vicar of the Montmartre Church, one of the most
picturesque landmarks of Paris. Like Sonia Gandhi, I have lived in
India for more than 40 years, and I have had the good fortune to be
married to an Indian. But the comparison stops there. I did land in
India with a certain amount of... 阅读全帖
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致青春是俺们广西的大学原型,挺真实的
跟俺当年去西大玩的记忆很接近
西大女生宿舍还是蛮好进的
美国电影好看,特效好,剧情也好,美剧跟国产剧的差别就更大了,刚看的walking
dead跟game of thrones,真是史诗般大片。国产剧要追赶的路真长
话说姜文导演的寻枪还是很好看的,国产电影里面的盲山盲井就很好看
至于最需要特效的科幻跟魔幻片,国内基本就不行,主要就是特效不好
S*****s
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看过最近很火的电视剧 game of the throne没有?
b*****d
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来自主题: Military版 - 英王室添了个男丁
It's a boy! Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, and husband Prince William on
Monday welcomed their first child. The baby boy was born at 4:24 p.m.,
weighing 8 pounds 6 ounces. A name has not yet been announced for the child,
who is now third in line to the throne.
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所以那个书评里就说:
The truth is that these famous icons are largely modern. As any sharp-eyed
visitor to the Heraklion museum can spot, what survives of the original
paintings amounts in most cases to no more than a few square inches. The
rest is more or less imaginative reconstruction, commissioned in the first
half of the twentieth century by Sir Arthur Evans, the British excavator of
the palace of Knossos (and the man who coined the term “Minoan” for this
prehistoric Cretan civilization, after the my... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: atxt (文本一), 信区: USANews
标 题: 皇家宝宝诞生,同性恋们纷纷转变异性恋
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 24 16:06:37 2013, 美东)
我们的皇家国王宝宝诞生了, 太高兴了。
国王宝宝的名字都取好了,就叫George,
George这名字,出自于我们美国人,应该是前总统George W. Bush,
这下好了,我们美国人,同性恋们纷纷转变异性恋, 都想生宝宝,取名George W.
It's a boy! Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, and husband Prince William
welcomed their first child.
The baby boy weighs 8 pounds, 6 ounces. A name has not yet been announced
for the child, who is now third in line to the throne.
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