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发帖数: 38600 | 1 Does it surprise you that Mao is still the face on all the Chinese banknotes
, that his portrait is still at Tiananmen, that he is still revered in China
?
No, not at all, because the young people that are growing up now, including
young Party members, have no idea really who he was and what he wrote and
what he did. All they know is he’s sort of the George Washington figure. He
was the founder of the country, the unifier of the people, and so on. And
that’s all they know. And I wouldn’t expect ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 617 | 2 最后一段： 就算大多数中国人对新的一年充满希望和机会， 我们西方仍然会把中国描
述成一个除了危机以外一无是处的国家。
There's a tendency in the China commentariat, something I'm certainly guilty
of, to treat the country as nothing but a series of looming crises, whether
they're political, economic, social, or environmental. But it's worth
remembering: Even conservative estimates project the Chinese economy to grow
by seven percent in 2014 and, while not all of this growth will translate
into a commensurate rise in living standards, much of it will. This... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10330 | 3 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535584/Eccentric-Chine
'Eccentric' Chinese billionaire claiming to be country's 'number one
philanthropist' flies two women who INTENTIONALLY set themselves on fire to
New York to undergo surgery to treat horrific burns
The two women, Hao Huijun and Chen Guo set themselves on fire to protest
government crackdown of practitioners of Falun Gong
Chen Guanbiao invited reporters to 'witness my Chinese dream' in song during
bizarre press conference
The women se... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 302 | 4 http://calvinayre.com/2014/01/24/business/ting-gets-two-years-b
BACCARAT CHEAT FEARS CHINA’S REVENGE
Sticking with Nevada, a federal court has sentenced a Chinese-born woman to
47 months in prison for cheating Las Vegas casinos out of millions of
dollars at baccarat. Irene Li sought asylum in the US in 1990, claiming that
vengeful Chinese authorities wanted her hide for her activities in the 1989
Tiananmen Square student protest that was ultimately crushed by the regime.
However, once in the US,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 13152 | 5 老奸巨猾？
Tiananmen crash: Terrorism or cry of desperation? by CNN
这个是操守还是老奸巨猾？ |
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发帖数: 911 | 6 http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/04/23/hong-kong-howls-b
Hong Kong Howls, But 88% of Mainland Chinese Don’t Mind Public Urination
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Chinese visitors as “locusts” descending on the city. Apple Daily
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发帖数: 18007 | 9 六四25週年紀念
25th Anniversary of Tiananmen Square
悼念死難者， 為中國自由民主祈
Commemorate victims of the Massacre
Pray for Freedom and Democracy in China
時間： June 8, 2014, 12:30pm
六月八日，下午12點半
地點： Faith Lutheran Church 信義教會
4600 Bellaire Blvd
Bellaire, TX 77410
Contact: Pastor Junfeng Tan
聯繫： 談俊峰牧師
Email：j**[email protected]
Rev. Junfeng Tan – Associate Pastor
j**[email protected]
Junfeng Tan smallPastor Tan joined the Faith team in 2013 after serving 11
years as a pastor in the South Dakota Synod. Bor... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 10 A child sleeps on his mother's shoulder as she crosses Tiananmen Square, in
May 1989.
Protesters doze on each other at sunrise, on May 14, 1989. |
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发帖数: 29576 | 11 Tiananmen Square May 26, 1989.
April 21, 1989 |
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发帖数: 52743 | 12 纽约唐人街，一个老将女看到一个男人曾是天安门广场上的解放军军官，指挥士兵开枪
，指挥坦克碾压。发疯一样追过去，呼喊：
Tiananmen!
Fapichi Soran! Fapichi Soran!
所有华人不懂她喊得啥，纽约警察精通国语，说她喊得是"screeming killer". |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 13 天安門事件的最後一幕
吳仁華
1997年7月
頁次: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 上一頁
在侯德健等人的影響下，面對嚴峻的局勢，學生領袖們堅守不撤的決心似乎有所動
搖，他們難以承擔數以千計學生安危的重責，最終決定在場學生立刻用口頭表決方式決
定是堅守還是撤離。廣場副總指揮封從德在廣播中解釋說，在目前危急情景下，我們已
經不可能召開緊急會議討論決定，只能採用最簡單的口頭表決方式，具體做法是，我在
廣播中喊叫一、二、三後，主張撤離的同學就喊“撤離”兩字，主張堅守的同學就喊“
堅守”兩字，少數服從多數，以聲音的強弱來決定。口頭表決的結果是堅守的聲音遠遠
越過撤離的呼聲【異】，在紀念碑北側幾乎就聽不到撤離的聲音，學生們還對眼前的軍
人做著Ｖ字形手勢，情緒高漲。然而，學生領袖們還是傾向於撤離。 (64memo.com -
2004)
正當學生領袖們準備具體布置實施撤退行動之時，軍人鳴槍沖上紀念碑底座，因而
使侯德健等人力圖促使學生和平撤離廣場的良好願望成為泡影。
凌晨四時四十分許，在紀念碑北側，一支人數約四十人左右的軍隊突擊隊沖入學生
隊伍。他們身穿迷彩服，端著衝鋒槍，緊貼著紀念碑... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3619 | 15 轮子连花几百块注册账号的钱也舍不得花啊。赶紧紧急注册几万个支持者。
怎么达赖这个老恐怖分子也不出来挺一下上海的自由斗士？ |
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发帖数: 452 | 16 李晓明（左五）在北京和战友的合影。照片由李晓明本人提供
现居澳大利亚的李晓明，是1989年奔赴天安门广场的军人之一。他说，“我们的部队受
到的教导是，我们不准朝学生开第一枪。”
北京——1989年春，学生对天安门广场的占领进入了第二个月，中国领导层紧张不安、
意见相左。一天傍晚，军方高级将领被召集到军区总部，表态支持动用武力镇压抗议者。
有一个人拒绝了。
在强大的第38集团军担任军长的徐勤先少将，令人震惊地违抗了上级。根据采访过徐勤
先本人的几名学者新近对其举动做出的描述，他当时表示，抗议活动属政治问题，应该
通过谈判解决，不应动用武力。
“宁杀头，不做历史罪人，”他告诉历史学者杨继绳。
尽管徐勤先很快被捕，但他抗命一事令党内权势集团深感震动，不仅加剧了对军队倒戈
的猜忌，也让领导层更坚定地相信，由学生领导的抗议活动是关涉共产党存亡的重大威
胁。
得到披露的一系列信息揭示了，1989年6月3日到4日的血腥镇压前，解放军内部的角力
，其中包括徐勤先抗命的新细节，以及由此引发的震动。这些信息中，有一部分包含在
近年来流出中国的军方文件里，还有一些则是通过对直接参与25年前的事件的党内人士
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发帖数: 5697 | 19 http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/tiananmens-most-
大部分都去投行了
No. 1: Wang Dan
Wang Dan
Sam Yeh/AFP, via GettyImages
Wang Dan
Mr. Wang was a 20-year-old freshman at Peking University in 1989. After the
June 4 crackdown, Mr. Wang initially hid at a relative’s home in Anhui
Province, but he soon returned to the capital, where he was arrested on July
2, 1989. He was sentenced to four years in prison but was released early in
1993. Two years later, after petitioning for the release of othe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2048 | 21 开枪时间︰
“6月3日23时10分，有个穿便衣的人说什么也要见我，说有重要指示传达。我见了他，
他掏出工作证，是某领导机关的副部长，来传达上级首长指示，命令部 队当晚一定要
到达指定位置。必要时可以果断处置。他刚传达完，军区前指也来指示，通报了万寿路
戒严部队（即38军）鸣枪示警驱散人群、迅速开进的情况。这 使我意识到事态已相当
严重，显然不对空呜枪部队很难突围开进，于是我们决定︰第一，坚决执行上级首长命
令，采取对空鸣枪驱散围阻人群的坚决措施，组织部队 突围，保证在4日4时前全部到
位。”(Memoir Tiananmen-1989)
---40军少将军长吴家民《再度京华》《戒严一日》（精选本）
军人死亡时间︰
王其富、李强、李栋国、杜怀庆、徐如军、王小兵︰
“这时，我瞅了一下表，还差5分钟零点。车就要从路口向右拐弯了。
我觉得车在向左倾斜，并且斜得很急。是不是离心力太大?但车速又不快。还没等
我反应过来，车已经向左翻倒了。
与车翻倒的同时，我看到象蓝球一样大的火球从我的对面8、9米处飞了过来，直冲
车厢的下侧。顿时，火球引燃了车厢尾部。我们10名战士全被车上的防暴 器材砸在车
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发帖数: 42116 | 22 http://news.yahoo.com/ap-troops-storm-tiananmen-square-15544047
The attack on protesters first began about 8 p.m. Saturday when thousands of
Beijing citizens trying to push the troops back began hurling stones.
Police retaliated by attacking people with truncheons and electric cattle
prods, firing tear gas and finally opening fire. |
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发帖数: 20290 | 24 要看目标读者群。看这个网站的估计都是bizman，要和老中做生意的，当然理性。 |
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发帖数: 9806 | 25 上网的都是loser，无非这次留言的是美国老将loser，其他时候留言的是美国小将
loser。 |
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发帖数: 27535 | 27 越南人的评论，老将有何看法？
Cuong bui van
6 hours ago
Hey, if you are Chinese, and if you want to know how evil your government is
, you should try to search "Tiananmen Square protests of 1989" and then you
will know how your government tell lie. Thousands of student were killed,
and of course your government will never tell the truth, and I am sure that
you can not read the information inside China. Open your eyes, and dont be
fooled by your government. |
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发帖数: 22064 | 28 那么这个也是真的喽？
http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20140605/c05elite/
China Financier Defends Companies’ Deals
By DAVID BARBOZA and MICHAEL FORSYTHE June 05, 2014
肖建华公司回应收购习近平家属股权
DAVID BARBOZA, 傅才德 2014年06月05日
SHANGHAI — A billionaire Chinese financier, responding to an article in The
New York Times about deals that his companies made with the relatives of
some of China’s senior leaders, said Wednesday that a company he co-founded
was helping the family of China’s president, Xi Jinping, dispose of some
of ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3280 | 29 6月3日《纽约时报》发表了该报知名调查记者张大卫（David Barboza） 、 傅才德（
Michael Forsythe）的 深度报道《八九学运中政治站队，走上富翁通途》（With
Choice at Tiananmen,Student Took Road to Riches）。披露中国一个神秘的民间资
本"明天集团"，其掌门人肖建华因当时未与政府对抗，获得政治资源及其它资源，从"
八九民运"的北大学生成为中 国最富有人士。
文章回顾，肖建华在"八九民运"时为北大学生会主席，因从未像他的北大同学如王
丹等人一样与政府对抗，获得特别的奖赏，在毕业后立即在北大的资助下进军商 界。
而早前《新财富》等媒体披露，现年42岁的肖建华被称为中国资本市场最后的"枭雄"，
而且根据胡润百富榜公开数据，他的个人财富达120亿元人民币。
一张曝光在网上的"明天系帝国版图"显示，明天集团左右9家上市公司，控股、参
股30家金融机构。30家金融机构，具体包括12家城市商行、6家证券公 司、4家信托公
司、4家保险公司、2家基金公司、1家期货公司、1家资产管理公司，这些机构资产总规
模近万亿。而与明天有关... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2547 | 30 this had been discussed again and again.
Yes you are right, if 催泪弹、高压水枪、电棍, there will be no 64 blood
washed Tiananmen |
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发帖数: 674 | 31 就北京政府刚刚发表的《“一国两制”在香港特别行政区的实践》白皮书，曾任中共前
总书记赵紫阳政治秘书的知名民主人士鲍彤撰文，指出白皮书篡改了“一国两制”的定
义。
Hong Kong Leung Chun-ying Vereidigung
（德国之声中文网）最近出了篇白皮书，讲的是"一国两制"在香港的实践。作者通过这
篇文章发明了新概念：香港享有多少权力，"在于中央授予多少权力"。据说这就叫做高
度自治，叫做港人治港，叫做一国两制在香港的实践。
也许白皮书的作者们不知道1984年《中英关于香港问题联合声明》的存在。我愿意告诉
他们：至少在中国外交部，应该存有一份没有被销毁的档案。
Hong Kong Leung Chun-ying Vereidigung
也许这些作者认为，研究"一国两制"的真谛，不宜于接触中英联合声明之类具有普世价
值的文献，应该转而钻研邓小平遗留下来的秘籍。我愿意坦率地告诉他们，邓小平的个
人谈话，不管是公开的还是秘密的，只要没有通过立法程序，统统不足为法，无权约束
香港的或大陆的居民，至多只能充当某种参考。因此，不管是谁，不谈一国两制则已，
要谈，必须以中英联合声明... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 20343 | 32 China executes 13 people for "terrorist" attacks in Xinjiang
BEIJING (Reuters) - China executed 13 people on Monday for "terrorist
attacks" in the far western region of Xinjiang, state media said, while
another three were sentenced to death for a lethal attack at Beijing's
Tiananmen Square.
更多
http://news.yahoo.com/china-sentences-three-death-over-tiananme
后边的跟贴很精彩。 转载一段
Once a second person taking the post of chairmanship in the history of the
World Uyghur Congress, Rabiye Qadir has been living... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3619 | 33 Eight people were sentenced in connection with a car crash in Beijing's
Tiananmen Square last October
就是讲那个是 car crash，是交通事故 |
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发帖数: 279 | 34 Source:
http://museums.cnd.org/CND-Global/CND-Global.95.4th/CND-Global.
Please pay attention to the last paragraph in his letter to CND editors.
It shows that Yi-Gong Shi most likely attended Mr. Harry Wu's talk at UMAB (
University of Maryland, Baltimore, which is located in the Downtown of the
Baltimore City, Maryland) on Nov. 7, 1995.
"So-called Chinese human-rights activist Mr. Harry Wu explicitly
told the audience of UMAB on Nov. 7 that he would like to see a weakened
China. I only wish CN... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5096 | 35 http://news.yahoo.com/china-warplane-made-dangerous-pass-us-air
n-174953328.html
这个IDjavelin 每次回帖都是下面这句开头
"I am a Chinese working as a China analyst at a think tank. It is becoming m
ore and more apparent to many people, that the ruling Chinese Communist Part
y (CCP) knows it is on its last straw of survival.
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China warplane made 'dangerous' pass at US aircraft: Pentagon
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发帖数: 13455 | 36 Hummingbird, without vetting [Lizhong] Fan further, sought his work visa,
Greschner said, adding that he assumed law enforcement or other government
officials took a closer look at the Chinese national. Greschner said he was
asked by an official with the sheriff's department in 2006 to provide a
numeric code for Fan's name, often used in investigations to pinpoint
Chinese identity, which he did. In the application, Greschner said that Fan
possessed skills not readily available in the U.S.
The Ma... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 37 Tiananmen Square all over again... history repeats but no one learns for
fuck sake. |
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发帖数: 891 | 39 Rachel Martin talks to Victor Gao, former translator for Chinese leader Deng
Xiaoping, about why he believes the Hong Kong protesters are flouting the
rule of law and should be dealt with accordingly.
Copyright © 2014 NPR. For personal, noncommercial use only. See Terms
of Use. For other uses, prior permission required.
RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:
Whatever happens in Hong Kong, China is ultimately in control there. We
spoke earlier today with a member of China's political elite, Victor Gao. He
was... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 16217 | 40 搞搞清楚，老夫说的清清楚楚，中国政府没有向学生开枪，OK?tiananmen sq是一偶发
事件，
27军,38军在场面失控的情况下，有个别士兵向学生开枪，即不是中国政府也不是
Beijing
市政府的命令，当然不是中国政府向学生开枪，明白了？
发信人: Liverpool12 (Liverpool Fan), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 美国的民主占领行动为啥不敢控制大街？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 5 19:18:36 2014, 美东)
搞搞清楚，老夫说的清清楚楚，美国政府没有向学生开枪，OK?kent st是一偶发事件，
国民警卫队在场面失控的情况下，有个别士兵向学生开枪，即不是美国政府也不是ohio
州政府的命令，当然不是美国政府向学生开枪，明白了？ |
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发帖数: 7833 | 41 At a Wednesday public hearing, Chai Ling, a Massachusetts resident who
played a prominent role in the 1989 Tiananmen Square student movement, said
the contract award would put a ‘‘blood-stained record’’ on the state,
citing the ‘‘tyranny’’ of China’s government. ‘‘Please do not stand
on the wrong side of history,’’ she said.
这个老逼跳出来真无聊。 |
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发帖数: 286 | 42 http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2w6uol/have_you_ever_
[–]ellaminnowp 256 points 15 hours ago*
Interesting story. My husband and I took our honeymoon to China. We landed
in Shanghai and walked around looking at the skyline as the sun was setting.
I noticed someone walk in front of me, stop and "take a selfie"...
Obviously with me in the background. Then I started noticing more people
walking near me and taking photos. Not a ton, but definitely three or four.
Over the next two weeks, I w... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8227 | 43 供大家批评
The Coming Chinese Crack-Up
The endgame of communist rule in China has begun, and Xi Jinping’s ruthless
measures are only bringing the country closer to a breaking point
When human empathy starts to win out over ossified authority, the endgame of
Chinese communism will really have begun.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-chinese-crack-up-1425659
China-watchers have been on high alert for telltale signs of regime decay
and decline ever since the regime’s near-death experience in Tianan... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1686 | 44 中国媒介的全球性和民族性：话语、市场、科技以及意识形态
分享到： 0 发表时间：2013年5月30日12:45:30
冷战结束后，中国媒介一直纠缠於民族主义和全球化之间。自从在天安门事件中迷失政
治方向，中国不得不拥抱资本主义以挽救社会主义；经济发展和民族主义取代了破产的
共产主义，为政权的合法性提供新依据。另一方面，中美联合对付苏联的策略结盟随冷
战结束而瓦解，天安门事件更使美国振振有词地抵制中国。1990年代中期，美国的对华
政策有几次转向，先从围堵逐渐变为来往，又从来往变为企图将中国纳入全球化的轨道
，以期一步步促进中国的「和平演变」1.尽管中美时陷对立的僵局，中国却拥抱资本主
义，渴望加入世贸组织和获取奥运会主办权，以提昇它在新国际秩序中的地位，乃至於
跨进国际「精英权力俱乐部」的门槛。
民族主义和全球化是矛盾的统一，既共存又竞争。本文旨在讨论两个主题。第一，它们
之间的关系如何形塑中国媒介的生态、话语、市场和意识形态？第二，在「国家利益」
的口号下，中国社会各股力量或竞争或联盟，以争取社会优势，媒介如何展现这个过程
？具体说，我想把这两个主题贯穿於以下六个子题：（1）中国媒介... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9489 | 45 看到好多人分享了这篇东西，阴谋论的味道很浓，但貌似还是有不少民众买账。将军们
来鉴定下？
Hillary, Wal-Mart And The Red Chinese Secret Police - How The Clinton's
Helped China Conquer America
http://allnewspipeline.com/Hillary_Wal_Mart_Red_Chinese_Secret_
"To understand Wal-Mart, you have to have a handle on Arkansas. And to
figure out Arkansas, you have to be knowledgeable about the Rockefellers.
And to fathom the Red Chinese Secret Police, you have to know a lot about
the richest family in the world." Sherman Skolnick
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发帖数: 258 | 46 2011年的旧帖：
最近，有朋友发来资料，说是由美国人拍摄的纪录片《天安门》故意丑化柴玲的形象。
我很奇怪：美国人为什么要丑化柴玲呢？没理由啊！
朋友信誓旦旦地拿出了“证据”，是民运人士的网站“六四档案”（64memo.com）上公
布的录像资料。该网站以这些录像为证据，指控《天安门》这个纪录片故意丑化柴玲：
“将柴玲说的期待翻译为希望流血，故意误导观众。”
很奇怪，很多人拿到了“证据”，却不认真审查这所谓的“证据”。我认真地仔细地看
了民运人士公布的录像，亲自将柴玲的原话记录下来。为了争取做到一字不差，
我反复看了好几次。民运人士公布的录像是放在youtube上的，上面有
64memo.com的水印。该段录像的连接是：
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDsPEAf9DUA&feature=player_embed
在该段录像第九分钟附近，柴玲的原话是这么说的：“他们老在问，我们下一步干什么
，要达到什么要求？我心里觉得很悲哀。我没办法告诉他们，其实我们期待的就是，
就是流血！就是要政府最后，无赖之极的时候，它用屠刀来对着它的，它的公民。我想，
也只有广... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 258 | 47 六四是一个悲剧。
作为当年的参与者，这么多年过去了，人变得成熟理性了。我认为六四悲剧的责任归属
大体上应该是这样的：
学生：幼稚，被野心家阴谋家利用，责任为 10%。
政府：内部争权夺利，处置适当，错过最佳解决问题的时机。责任为 30%。
柴玲为代表的野心家、阴谋家：一心激化矛盾，一心要天安门“血流成河”，责任为
60%！
附：
我认真地仔细地看了民运人士公布的录像，亲自将柴玲的原话记录下来。为了争取做到
一字不差，我反复看了好几次。民运人士公布的录像是放在youtube上的，上面有
64memo.com的水印。该段录像的连接是：
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDsPEAf9DUA&feature=player_embed
在该段录像第九分钟附近，柴玲的原话是这么说的：“他们老在问，我们下一步干什么
，要达到什么要求？我心里觉得很悲哀。我没办法告诉他们，其实我们期待的就是，就
是流血！就是要政府最后，无赖之极的时候，它用屠刀来对着它的，它的公民。我想，
也只有广场上血流成河的时候，全中国的人才能真正地擦亮眼睛。他们真正才能团结起
来。但是这种话，怎么... 阅读全帖 |
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