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来自主题: Programming版 - TIOBE Index for December 2015
今年年度语言是java应该无悬念了
December Headline: Java's popularity is going through the roof
There is hardly any doubt about it, Java will become TIOBE's programming
language of the year 2015. The steep fall of Objective-C of almost 8% this
year seems to be completely absorbed by the most popular language at the
moment. More about Java next month. Another interesting move concerns the
rise of Python. It is currently at its all time high position. It is easy to
learn, available everywhere and embraced by ind... 阅读全帖
t*****n
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来自主题: Programming版 - 2013年tiobe的变化
tiobe是个笑话吧。js排第十怎么可能,还不如vb?有谁记得vb?tiobe统计的培训机构
的结果吧?哈哈
w**z
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http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
Java is now almost 4.5% ahead of the rest of the pack. We have to go back to
2008 to see such a big difference between Java and the number 2 of the
TIOBE index. Java version 8 is clearly a success. This is mainly thanks to
the functional programming idiom that has been added to this latest version.
Java went in decline when Oracle bought Sun Microsystems (and thus Java) in
2010. Several Java gurus left the company, being afraid that... 阅读全帖
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g*****g
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来自主题: Programming版 - 2013年tiobe的变化
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
前十的语言,只有objective c略有增长,其余的都跌,python和VB是大输家。js也没
火。
文章提到现在从以前包括前50的语言到现在包括100%的语言,所以几个主流语言都直接
跌了0.5%。
t****a
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来自主题: Programming版 - 2013年tiobe的变化
TIOBE的数据代表平均水平。
不错,代表平均水平的语言中排名靠前的语言的opening最多,可这不代表这些opening
的工资就最高。事实上我个人认为认为越平均就越螺丝钉。如果从全美国抽样调查每个
人的学历,平均水平是本科生吧;在中国的话,平均了还是专科生呢。
况且,opening再多,跟自己有什么关系呢,最后适合自己的也没几个地方。
在这里的各位没有谁满足于平均水平的工资吧。
g*****g
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来自主题: Programming版 - 2013年tiobe的变化
indeed 有jobtrend和average salary. 当然要同时看两个方面。 tiobe更多地只是说
热点,跟工作还不直接相关。

opening
p*****2
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来自主题: Programming版 - 2013年tiobe的变化

其实火不火看看有多少公司用就知道了。tiobe这东西我一直不怎么看。比如第一是C,
我就是搞C的,有个屁用。
d****i
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来自主题: Programming版 - 为什么C能占据TIOBE的第一名?
C是系统语言,基本上只要和系统或者硬件打交道的都离不开C,比如操作系统,网络,
数据库,编译器,解释器等等,还有与之相关的基础底层的算法,还有所有的嵌入式系
统编程,所以C是常青树不老松,tiobe上几十年来一直保持第一或第二的位置。
a*f
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来自主题: Programming版 - TIOBE Index for February 2016
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/tiobe_index
Objective-C从第四位掉到了第十四位,果果现在的市场在萎缩?厨师不继续搞新的技
术了?
z*******n
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来自主题: MobileDevelopment版 - Apple's Swift climbs quickly in language popularity
InfoWorld Tech Watch
July 14, 2014
Swift, Apple's new programming language for iOS and OS X applications, has
rocketed up the charts in two monthly tabulations of programming language
popularity.
Introduced in early June, the language enters the July Tiobe Index at number
16 and did even better on this month's PyPL Popularity of Programming
Language index, placing 10th. "Everybody is curious to know what this new
language is about, especially because it has been developed by Apple," said
Paul Ja... 阅读全帖
g****t
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来自主题: Programming版 - Delphi/Object Pascal杀回来了?
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Delphi/Object Pascal in 2017 is almost as popular as javcscript.
Delphi/Object Pascal和javascript 现在在一档里面。
我开始觉得肯定什么地方弄错了。然后发现过去两年delphi一直在上升。
www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/delphi-object-pascal/
到底谁在用呢?新增的用户是谁?
l*y
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来自主题: Java版 - java已经不是第一了
大家各抒己见
TIOBE Programming Community Index for April 2010
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
April Headline: C programming language back at number 1 position!
After more than 4 years C is back at position number 1 in the TIOBE index.
The scores for C have been pretty constant through the years, varying
between the 15% and 20% market share for almost 10 years. So the main reason
for C's number 1 position is not C's uprise, but the decline of its
competitor Java. Java h
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Tiobe said the recent JavaOne conference in San Francisco helped Java. Tiobe
Managing Director Paul Jansen, who compiles the index, also sees Java's
evolution as helping. "The Java language is changing nowadays, after having
been at the same level for many years," Jansen said in an email. "It's
closing the gap with functional programming languages -- e.g. with Java
Streams -- thus making life much easier."
Java 8, unveiled last year, introduced a functional style to Java with
lambda support. Tio... 阅读全帖
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Tiobe said the recent JavaOne conference in San Francisco helped Java. Tiobe
Managing Director Paul Jansen, who compiles the index, also sees Java's
evolution as helping. "The Java language is changing nowadays, after having
been at the same level for many years," Jansen said in an email. "It's
closing the gap with functional programming languages -- e.g. with Java
Streams -- thus making life much easier."
Java 8, unveiled last year, introduced a functional style to Java with
lambda support. Tio... 阅读全帖
s********0
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来自主题: Military版 - Javascript正被开发者抛弃?
" 最新出炉的TIOBE编程语言排名中,Javascript的排名又一次下跌。虽然当月流行度
还未突破历史最低记录,但如果计算6个月平均排名,已经是TIOBE有记录以来的最低值
。对比HTML5的google trends记录你会惊讶地发现js流行度与HTML5关注度竟然成反比。
虽然全世界都把希望寄托在HTML5,但是js老旧的语法特性实在难当此大任。为此
Google推出了Dart,微软推出了TypeScript,都希望用来弥补js的缺陷。但这些都不可
能代替js,类似的尝试早在2008年的ECMAScript4就曾惨遭失败,在js的世界,任何可
能破坏兼容的改进都是无法接受的。
这个问题导致那些习惯面向对象,不愿使用js的程序员们宁可以其他语言编写代码,将
js看作编译结果。除了Dart和TypeScript以外,CoffeeScript,Fantom, HaXe,Opa等
多种语言也都在语言设计之初就将js设定为编译目标。这不但对js开发造成了严重的碎
片效应,还因为二次编译给本就性能不佳的js带来进一步的损失。"
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d****i
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 现在是不是C++不怎么值钱?
我就知道你会回帖,这种问题你去看看stackoverflow就知道了,c++的tag排在语言中
的第五位,tiobe index排在第四位。你又不做实体产业,实体产业里面的编程基本上
都是C和C++的天下,从通信,汽车,网络,航空航天,电力,医疗,能源,电子,化工
,只要牵涉到软硬件结合的部分,C++少不了。即便是互联网,用c++做后端high
performance, time critical的部分也不少。
http://stackoverflow.com/tags
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
d****i
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 现在是不是C++不怎么值钱?
我就知道你会回帖,这种问题你去看看stackoverflow就知道了,c++的tag排在语言中
的第五位,tiobe index排在第四位。你又不做实体产业,实体产业里面的编程基本上
都是C和C++的天下,从通信,汽车,网络,航空航天,电力,医疗,能源,电子,化工
,只要牵涉到软硬件结合的部分,C++少不了。即便是互联网,用c++做后端high
performance, time critical的部分也不少。
http://stackoverflow.com/tags
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
i**i
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【 以下文字转载自 Programming 讨论区 】
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: Programming
标 题: October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 6 02:20:09 2014, 美东)
lol
打了谁的耳光?
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeScript (position 133) and TypeScript (position 122)
don't impress yet. The adoption of Dart had a slow start after its birth at
the end of ... 阅读全帖
z****e
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来自主题: BuildingWeb版 - java spring,nodejs,或者dart
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeScript (position 133) and TypeScript (position 122)
don't impress yet. The adoption of Dart had a slow start after its birth at
the end of 2011 because engineers were afraid that other browsers than
Goog... 阅读全帖
h******b
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来自主题: BuildingWeb版 - java spring,nodejs,或者dart
就tiobe那个垃圾排名,能把c排第一就说明完全脱离实际。
去stackoverflow,indeed,github都是更有含金量的排名。
tiobe你就自娱自乐吧。 什么时候dart工作数量有node一半了,有JavaScript十分之
一了,再来讨论吧。
z****e
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【 以下文字转载自 Programming 讨论区 】
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: Programming
标 题: October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 6 02:20:09 2014, 美东)
lol
打了谁的耳光?
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeScript (position 133) and TypeScript (position 122)
don't impress yet. The adoption of Dart had a slow start after its birth at
the end of ... 阅读全帖
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这样吧
看来做java的想踩我,
http://www.selfindulgentmonster.com/2009/03/11/programming-job-trends-part-i/
c++和c是连接超级密的,java的话则包括了core java和j2ee
仔细一算,c++和c的总数比java的是少点,但是少的不多

本来就是
tiobe的rank
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
q*********u
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补充一点,java还有j2me, ms有舆论说将来的手机能强到直接上j2se

这样吧
看来做java的想踩我,
http://www.selfindulgentmonster.com/2009/03/11/programming-job-trends-part-i/
c++和c是连接超级密的,java的话则包括了core java和j2ee
仔细一算,c++和c的总数比java的是少点,但是少的不多
本来就是
tiobe的rank
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
z****e
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【 以下文字转载自 Programming 讨论区 】
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: Programming
标 题: October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 6 02:20:09 2014, 美东)
lol
打了谁的耳光?
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeScript (position 133) and TypeScript (position 122)
don't impress yet. The adoption of Dart had a slow start after its birth at
the end of ... 阅读全帖
g*****g
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来自主题: Programming版 - 请教 C++ 题
开发是一整个ecosystem,你限定语言和IDE本身就显得很幼稚。一个典型的例子就是
Objective
C,几十年的老古董。iPhone出来才6年时间,就秒了C#。
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
.Net有NHibernate, Spring.Net,以前WCF只做SOAP,这几年Jersey/Restful火了,赶
紧抄了个webapi。Lucene也是port的,版本一直低一个。Hadoop只能用streaming。
我的意思是抄并不可耻,C#本来就是从Java那抄的,加一点Delphi的feature。但如果
想微软这样工程师本来就很烂,开源community又不成气候。创新必然不行。假以时日
,这个平台只有混吃等死。C#去年初还是tiobe index排名第三的语言,现在只剩第6,
n*w
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来自主题: Programming版 - 我认为JVM上的语言,老大还是Java
我的记忆是从非tiobe来的。查了一下tiobe。
groovy 32
scala 41
clojure 51-100
以为scala比f#流行。没想到f#居然23。
d****i
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不会吧,C和Java长期在TIOBE index的榜首前两位轮流坐庄,你方唱罢我来唱,C++一
般就是第三(除去最近两年突然冒出的Obj-C)。
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm

java
n*w
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来自主题: Programming版 - F#怎么回事
在tiobe上的排名接着往上串。
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
i**i
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来自主题: Programming版 - 大牛说说该用dart还是node?
看这种图是很tricky的.比如R, 在tiobe上的排名从21跳到了15, 很突然.
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/R.html
你信吗? 以前tsql也是莫名其妙地突然就向前跳了很多.
看人家搞统计的人是怎么搜索和分析的:
http://www.sas-programming.com/2013/12/sas-is-abandend-by-marke
http://r4stats.com/2013/08/07/trends-in-the-analytics-job-marke
总体来说,R有进步.跟R比较靠谱.
z****e
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lol
打了谁的耳光?
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeScript (position 133) and TypeScript (position 122)
don't impress yet. The adoption of Dart had a slow start after its birth at
the end of 2011 because engineers were afraid that other browsers than
Google's Chrome wouldn't support Dart. And they were right. But now that the
Dart to JavaScript compiler is mature a... 阅读全帖
i**i
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【 以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区 】
发信人: imei (imei), 信区: Joke
标 题: October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 7 10:48:28 2014, 美东)
发信人: zhaoce (米高蜥蜴), 信区: Programming
标 题: October Headline: Dart enters the top 20 for the first time
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 6 02:20:09 2014, 美东)
lol
打了谁的耳光?
Finally, some fresh blood in the TIOBE index! Google's Dart, the proclaimed
successor of JavaScript, enters the top 20 for the first time. Competitors
of Dart such as CoffeeSc... 阅读全帖
z****e
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越来越多人使用netty这些东西
web泡泡破灭迹象愈发明显了
最近很多web公司都在裁员
反观搞core java的很多职位
都在扩张,mobile方兴未艾啊
tiobe 11月标题,java index再一次回到了20%+,自2009年七月以来
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
d********g
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来自主题: Programming版 - 王垠对编程语言的理解还是挺深的
看起来Delphi/PASCAL的排名还不错
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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来自主题: Programming版 - C++ 又开始火起来了吗?
I like rust, but it's very hard to shake c/c++'s position in last 30 years.
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
Programming Language 2017 2012 2007 2002 1997 1992 1987
Java 1 2 1 1 15 - -
C 2 1 2 2 1 1 1
C++ 3 3 3 3 2 2 5
...
g****t
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来自主题: Programming版 - Delphi从2012年的谷底谷底杀到前十了
网上看到有人说欧洲喜欢pascal
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
我好像去年同时发过同样的贴?
y******0
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z****e
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来自主题: Military版 - 码工终于有福利了

github不能说明问题,那上面屌丝们自己瞎玩的项目居多
很多正经项目是不放上面的,看搜索引擎的汇总
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
z****e
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泡沫崩了无所谓,尤其是java的程序员
java每次爬起来,都是在泡沫破灭之后
无论是.com还是这次,java的流行度都在增长
而且增长得很疯狂,因为java做的东西都是实实在在的创造
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
不像脚本,各种骗,javascript和web每次都是重灾区
无论是.com还是这次,这个想想也很有道理
js和web那点狗屁,哪里需要什么本科以上学历去做
随便一个专科生都能搞,但是涉及到数据以及处理
那现在发展到很容易就卷入线性代数和统计这些
专科生根本没学过,搞不定
z****e
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z****e
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http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
狗家means nothing
学狗的就是死路一条
比如fb
不学狗的,好日子一眼望不到头
股票涨涨
w**z
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - Top programming lanuage: Java, C, C#, C++
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
2012 2011
March
Position
1 1 Java 17.110% -2.60% A
2 2 C 17.087% +1.82% A
3 4 C# 8.244% +1.03% A
4 3 C++ 8.047% -0.71% A
5 8 Objective-C 7.737% +4.22% A
6 5 PHP 5.555% -1.01% A
7 7 (Visual) Basic 4.369% -0.34% A
8 10 JavaScript 3.386% ... 阅读全帖
n**s
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瞎扯。
老的语言还是吃香。现在最popular的语言是C和Java。
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
.net的占有率比Java差远了。现在和Java的差距越来越大。
l**b
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - popular language
这个没意思吧。看你怎么define popular吧?
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.htm
o*********r
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - c#这个语言怎么样
You can use http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html as reference. It also includes history data.
x**i
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 吐槽贴,顺便求职业发展建议
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/C_.html
应该也没你说的那么严重,还是有很多人要吃饭的。
当然,还是应该学习一些流行技术。
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