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l*x
发帖数: 396
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - EOS M 和 RX100II哪个成像质量好?
只看画质,两个相机senor面积差了将近三倍,sony sensor技术再牛也弥补不了面积上
劣势。以dxo数据说话,主要画质参数中的 18% 信噪比,tonal range,rx100ii和
eos-m的差距不比eos-m和5d3的差距小多少。sony只在iso100附近的动态范围占了点微
弱优势。
论实际使用,rx100ii显然对焦快,操控好,更实用。镜头比eos-m的套头光圈大,部分
抵消了画质上的差距。
o**s
发帖数: 3412
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - L家的色彩就是讨喜啊
Are you trying to say that the Leica lenses are 色彩讨喜 (vivid) is not due
to any color cast, but the optics provide more contrast and tonal range?

当然镜头的其他素质差别,有很多是后期无
法弥补的。
o**s
发帖数: 3412
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - L家的色彩就是讨喜啊
Of course, color is about contrast and tonal range. U guys are talking about
the same thing as far as I can see...

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w********2
发帖数: 632
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8x10 film can preserve huge tonality detail. schneider lenses is the best in
this aspect. others brands are second tier in lf.
d**********n
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 40 tips to take better photos
1. Get in close
It was the famous photojournalist Robert Capa who once said "If your
photographs aren’t good enough, you’re not close enough.” He was talking
about getting in amongst the action. If you feel like your images aren’t ‘
popping’, take a step or two closer to your subject. Fill the frame with
your subject and see how much better your photo will look without so much
wasted space. The closer you are to the subject, the better you can see
their facial expressions too. 


2. ... 阅读全帖
o**s
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - How to convert to black and white images
Any idea about the gray banding?
seems not enough tonal range but how did that happen?
Did post processing with color (used luminosity masks), then decided dun
like the color (blue and yellow) and converted to b&w. Maybe that is why the
gray banding happened?
Really like the image except those bands hurt my eyes.
t******k
发帖数: 5617
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那人放出了更多评测
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=20949.msg39780
Well, first of all I apologize because I made a small error... Vignetting is
obvious at maximum aperture only of 28mm (not 24mm) and a bit more at 35mm
For those asking about AF accuracy:
The lens show a tendency to back focusing a little, something you spot when
focusing from 1-1.5 feet or less at maximum aperture. I made a
microadjustment of -8 and everything is perfect!
Do I find the IS useful in a UWA lens?
Absolutely.... 阅读全帖
l*x
发帖数: 396
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 说说全幅和残幅感光器性能区别
现在传统感光器基本上已经受制于物理极限了,未来发展极其有限。
感光器高感信噪比主要由光子涨落,即shot noise决定,由高感可以推知感光器单位面
积光电转换效率。感光器低感信噪比以前主要由感光器读噪音read noise决定。
EM1,A6000,A7感光器面积互相相差2倍左右。高感下,理论中灰信噪比从EM1到A6000提
升3db,到A7再提升3db。从DXO测试结果看真是如此。即使Canon感光器公认比Sony差一
代,在高ISO下和低ISO亮部,当信噪比仅由光子shot noise决定时,中灰信噪比和Sony
完全没区别。这就是说,Canon和Sony感光器单位面积光子转换效率一样,都接近物理
极限了。
低感下,Canon感光器read noise比Sony差两档左右。低ISO暗部噪音(主要由read
noise决定)比Sony高6db,导致低ISO动态范围低两档。看Sony感光器高感动态
范围和Canon没区别。低感动态范围Canon被read noise限制,而Sony基本完全是高感的
外推。也就是说,Sony感光器的read noise和低感shot noise比,已经... 阅读全帖
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D***3
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 拍瀑布有点过曝 怎么破?
“Tonal Adjustments in the Age of Lightroom 4"
感觉这篇文章更符合我的需求
l*x
发帖数: 396
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - DSLR摄像效果最好的是不是
如果比h.264,5d3确实比a7s和a7r2差很多。但要说a7s和a7r2比5d3 raw各个方面都强
,就很不公正了。真做过视频的,那个不是和8 bit图像struggle的。白平衡偏了,曝光
不准确,拉个曲线,调个阴影,视频不是偏色,就是banding。12/14 bit raw比h.264
能调整的范围宽得多,得到的结果也自然的多。这点对摄像师来说,远比分辨率重要。
a7s/a7r2的s-log很难调,可不是人人都应付得了的。即使是s-log,也比raw的tonal
range差远了,调色很容易出现banding。
拿照片打个比方说,如果你看着某些直出jpeg很好,就硬说jpeg各方面都比raw强太多
了,很不合理吧。不管分辨率多高,分辨率不代表画质的全部。
n******u
发帖数: 418
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上周priime styles出了mac版
现在sales 24.99
黑白的话,我一直用tonality
t******8
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DxO PhotoLab 有模拟机身颜色效果的功能。模拟的好不好不知道,因为我只用neutral
tonality v2
M****n
发帖数: 399
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Well, as opposed to Commercial electronic music, academic music is what those
faculty and students are making without taking market-value in their
consideration. Usually there is not a lot of beats or recognizable tonal
structures. That's my definition. Hehe... maybe not accurate.
t*a
发帖数: 117
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - haha...perfect pitch
By JAMES GLANZ
Most native speakers of languages that use tones to convey meaning may have a
form of perfect pitch, according to new research. The results may suggest
that many or even most babies are born with perfect pitch but lose it if they
do not learn a tonal language or undergo early musical training.
Most people find it easy to perceive and sing musical tones relative to each
other, a skill called relative pitch, but perfect pitch -- the ability to
identify any note by name or to sing a
y****g
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b*****a
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有统计说像中国这种语言有声调的国家,人口里面五音不全的比例比讲 non-tonal
language 的国家比如万米,就低的多
l**h
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来自主题: LES版 - LES版 - 9月水枪排名
全版共2781贴
排名 ID 帖数 忠诚度(排名) 引用数(排名) 引用率(排名)
1 lsxh 599 80.7% (37) 317 (1) 0.53 (27)
2 z22222222222 284 92.5% (30) 201 (2) 0.71 (12)
3 majia111 142 29.4% (43) 113 (4) 0.80 (6)
4 RightRat 128 100.0% (1) 115 (3) 0.90 (1)
5 coldfish 112 100.0% (1) 67 (6) 0.60 (22)
6 chillax 98 97.0% (25) 68 (5) 0.69 (15)
7 lkes 76 100.0% (1) 21 (17) 0.28 (46)
8 confused 74 96.1% (26) 52 (... 阅读全帖
w*******t
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全版共3561贴
排名 ID 帖数 忠诚度(排名) 引用数(排名) 引用率(排名)
1 lsxh 789 77.8% (41) 471 (1) 0.60 (29)
2 z22222222222 333 94.6% (28) 282 (2) 0.85 (9)
3 dwaw 172 72.3% (42) 118 (5) 0.69 (22)
4 majia111 171 55.7% (45) 133 (4) 0.78 (12)
5 wstwst 162 60.2% (44) 141 (3) 0.87 (8)
6 evilolive 160 85.6% (38) 114 (6) 0.71 (19)
7 muou21 135 100.0% (1) 55 (10) 0.41 (36)
8 confused 110 96.5% (26) 1... 阅读全帖
T*****i
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来自主题: LES版 - Why I Voted for Romney... (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Carolinas 讨论区 】
发信人: Tonalli (小可), 信区: Carolinas
标 题: Why I Voted for Romney...
关键字: Health Care Reform 大选 2012 Romney Obama
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 3 18:08:49 2012, 美东)
I cast my vote earlier this week, and I voted for Mitt Romney.
One of the most important reasons is that THIS MAN UNDERSTANDS MONEY. Being
an Economics major, I totally agree with this man's financial plan.
The biggest concern comes from Health Care Reform, so I quote Romney's words
from his previous debate:
I'd just... 阅读全帖
s********n
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: Tonalli (小可), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 有投票权的,投票后都来说一下自己的选择和理由吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 5 21:49:14 2012, 美东)
选区:Durham, NC
方式:Early voting
党派:Rep
学历:理科bachelor
工作:精算师
总统选择: Romney/Ryan
原因:
One of the most important reasons is that Romney UNDERSTANDS MONEY. Being an
Economics major, I totally agree with this man's financial plan.
The biggest concern comes from Health Care Reform, so I quote Romney's words
from his previous debate:
I'd just as soon not have the government... 阅读全帖
i*****e
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来自主题: Piebridge版 - 湾区寻MM
Sorry, Chinese is a tonal language. I have no idea what you're saying...
w********h
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来自主题: Reader版 - Antichrist: A Discussion
Antichrist: A Discussion
Posted In Featured,Web Exclusives
Dense, shocking, and thought-provoking, Lars von Trier’s Antichrist is a
film which calls for careful analysis. This web-exclusive exchange between
Film Quarterly editor Rob White and philosopher Nina Power is meant as a
first attempt at the in-depth debate that this major film deserves.
SPOILER WARNING: Please be aware that the piece assumes familiarity with
Antichrist and does contain major plot spoilers. For ease of reference, a
synop... 阅读全帖
s********1
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来自主题: Shaanxi版 - 为什么是 shaanxi
啊?你不是开玩笑的?
那我说的就是原因,是政府决定这个拼写,以和山西区别。我记得好像上学时学过。
From wiki:
The Chinese pronunciation of 陕西 (Shaanxi) and its easterly neighbouring
province 山西 (Shanxi) differs only in tone. Their normal spellings in the
Pinyin system are Shǎnxī and Shānxī respectively, with the tone marks ("
accents") alone distinguishing them.
However as Chinese tone marks are often omitted in foreign typography, this
would leave the two provinces indistinguishable. To prevent this ambiguity,
the Chinese government has devise... 阅读全帖
a***y
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另有
http://www.avguide.com/review/playback-apple-ear-headphones?src=Playback
综合为9/10的评分。
Tonal Balance: 9
Clarity: 9
Dynamics: 8
Comfort/Fit: 7
Sensitivity: 9
Value: 9
这段很重要:
Look elsewhere if: you favor headphones that offer powerful and deeply
extended bass. Relative to competing models, Apple’s In-Ear Headphones
offer superior balance and smoothness, but can sound somewhat subdued in the
low end (or actually at both frequency extremes, if you listen carefully).
Eartips may feel a little too “s
d*****u
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - Second sandhi in Beijing Mandarin?
I've never thought about this issue carefully.
But I suppose for a particular kind of trisyllablic noun, Beijingers tend to
reanalyse it so that it has 4 moras like a bisyllabic noun, which is more
common in modern Chinese.
tian55 wen35
u u u u
|/ |/
σ σ
| |
F F
tian wen tai
u u u u
| | |/
σ σ σ
| / |
|/ |
F F
Note, the foot(F) here does not necessarily coincide with the stress foot
commonly used in phonology. And the mora is a tonal mora, hav
m********e
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来自主题: AnthroLing版 - 网上哪里有《实验语音学概要》?
kent raymond的 acoustic and auditory phonetics
peter ladefoged也写过一些acoustic phonetics的入门书
这些入门书里一般都会谈到tone
如果你要专门看tone的moira yip专门写过tonal phonology of chinese
关于chinese tone在acoustic phonetics上的描写,xu yi老师做了很多
m*********k
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[Blessing]
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Tonalli
manon
xiaozhai
richtext
RightRat
foursea
goooo1111
lkes
cuisine
SP
chouchou84
Zorror
Dajingdahai
每人发20伪币,从本人账户里扣,谢谢:)
m*********k
发帖数: 10521
43
来自主题: WBCenter版 - 申请代发伪币
[LES] z22222222222
71302 z22222222222 Oct 6 ● 发和气包
成功奖励 20 伪币的用户: wstwst, LackOfMemory, acelery, lsxh, muou21, dwaw,
Tonalli, manon, xiaozhai, richtext, RightRat, foursea, goooo1111, lkes,
cuisine, SP, chouchou84, Zorror, Dajingdahai
成功扣除 380 伪币的用户: z22222222222
m*********k
发帖数: 10521
44
来自主题: WBCenter版 - 申请代发包子
[LES] confused
71909 confused Oct 12 ● 感谢大家祝福,发包子 (30个)
成功奖励 10 伪币的用户: unicloo, z22222222222, lsxh, dennykarsh, manon,
bbxx2004, lkes, frank93, Tonalli, goooo1111, cuisine, Dwayna, echolake,
kanbbs, majia111, muou21, richtext, foursea, coldfish, dwaw, evilolive,
RandomG, clematis, Bigfish7, wstwst, idgo, ZeeX, Dajingdahai, LackOfMemory,
huoduoduo
成功扣除 330 伪币的用户: confused(含10%手续费)
l**h
发帖数: 8270
45
来自主题: WBCenter版 - LES版申请代发包子
代发版面/ID:
LES
代发事由(主题标题或链接):
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/LES/419831.html
伪币金额:
270
奖励/代发包子数量:
JTree 11个包子
idgo 5个包子
以下ID一人一个包子:
wstwst
z22222222222
confused
advil
muou21
unicloo
Tonalli
evilolive
lsxh
iPSSSS7474
RandomG
谢谢!
m*********k
发帖数: 10521
46
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[LES]
73053 lsxh Oct 19 ● 鱼姐攒RP专用包
成功奖励 110 伪币的用户: JTree
成功奖励 50 伪币的用户: idgo
成功奖励 10 伪币的用户: wstwst, z22222222222, confused, advil, muou21,
unicloo, Tonalli, evilolive, lsxh, iPSSSS7474, RandomG
扣除版面:(LES)270伪币成功
m*********k
发帖数: 10521
47
来自主题: WBCenter版 - 代发包子
[LES] echoh
78946 echoh Nov 20 ● 散尽包子求祝福
成功奖励 10 伪币的用户: lsxh, cuisine, dwaw, jaff1973, z22222222222, wstwst,
Belichick, lalaloves, muou21, chillax, evilolive, Zorror, clematis, Tonalli
, zhuifengke, gaolegao, crystalbook, richtext, zblgaoxin, danyun, chris640,
yidingjizhu, sunflower712, howdy2011, ppxwwtaking, Mittbbs, xiaozhai,
jokeyzhu, chouwacuipin, HistoryBF, b6, LXJXren, schema, F7, ladyred,
deepbluesea
成功扣除 396 伪币的用户: echoh
m*********k
发帖数: 10521
48
来自主题: WBCenter版 - 请代发LES版 伪币
[LES]
79596 z22222222222 Nov 23 ● (已结束)说谢谢发包包
成功奖励 10 伪币的用户: lsxh, confused, cuisine, zhuifengke, crystalbook,
majia111, rpanda, lkes, flyflysky, Tonalli, muou21, richtext, wbwb, dwaw,
jaff1973, clematis, ylonglew, maura, iPSSSS7474, save12345, LXJSmonk, Seanna
, fairway, aplets, tnfan, ppxwwtaking, jokeyzhu, Mittbbs, Yisu, goodday123,
cwh, Carrpool, taotaoA, fengbaichi, zblgaoxin, danyun, wwwwcom, frank93,
ganoderma, babycome, silvialee7, GIANTPANDA, taking, NoMore111111, bandshell
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