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发帖数: 217 | 1 Fabrice Tourre, a French graduate of Stanford who has worked at the Wall Street firm since July 2001.
At the time, Tourre was working at a trading desk for structured products in New York City, according to the SEC. The 31-year-old is currently in London as executive director of Goldman Sachs International.
He did not immediately respond to an e-mail sent via his LinkedIn account, where he identifies himself as a 2000 graduate of Ecole Centrale Paris with a bachelor's degree in mathematics, foll |
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发帖数: 2137 | 2 "Mr. Fabrice Tourre is in the office, but off the desk." He may be reached
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发帖数: 323 | 3 哪位大虾懂的？实在搞不清楚。tourr勉强能明白是在干嘛，tourGui的话画出的图自己
都没法解释。比如gui_pcp，如果画出来的线不是聚在一起的而是叉开的，是不是说明
数据里面有outlier？那怎么知道是哪个observation有问题呢？
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发帖数: 8702 | 4 自己看吧，哪里坐牢了？
1. Goldman and one of its traders, Fabrice Tourre, were later sued by the
SEC over circumstances surrounding one of these CDOs, Abacus 2007-AC1. (See
below in this article) In late 2010 Tourre asked for dismissal of the suit
against him based on the repercussions of the Morrison v. National Australia
Bank Ltd Supreme Court case, claiming his deals were outside the US and
thus not subject to certain US laws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldman_Sachs
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发帖数: 572 | 5
话：
：$200 million in the equity of ABACUS 2007-AC1 (a long position) and,
：accordingly, that Paulson’s interests in the collateral section process
：were aligned with ACA’s when in reality Paulson’s interests were sharply
：conflicting.
这说明 Paulson 当初是把这 200M 当诱饵的，但是他没有责任去 disclose 他
手里藏的 short position, 但是 Tourre 可能是知道的。如果调查的时候Tourre
不合作，可能是告不倒GS 的。但是Tourre 有很大可能会合作。这和当初的垃圾
债券丑闻是一样的 （见 The den of thieves) 。就是搞几个关键人物个个击破，
先从小人物开始。这么大的事GS 就一个VP 参与了？肯定还有后面的高层，到
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发帖数: 8227 | 6 Fabrice Tourre, the Goldman Sachs executive accused by the Securities and
Exchange Commission of making misleading statements about toxic investments,
conveyed a grandiose view of his own position in the financial system,
according to emails the SEC said he wrote.
For example, portions of an email in French and English sent by Tourre to a
friend on January 23, 2007 stated, in English translation where applicable:
“More and more leverage in the system, The whole building is about to
collapse anyt |
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发帖数: 208 | 7 强烈要求将黑老大GS就地正法！！！
刚看了SEC的材料，GS真不是一般的黑阿，比ENRON的trader坏多了。
说白了把，就是明目张胆地欺骗不明真相的投资者。给大家看一段黑trader的email：
For example, portions of an email in French and English sent by Tourre to a
friend on January 23, 2007 stated, in English translation where applicable:
“More and more leverage in the system, The whole building is about to
collapse anytime now…Only potential survivor, the fabulous Fab[rice Tourre]
…standing in the middle of all these complex, highly leveraged, exotic
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发帖数: 56 | 8 人家Hedge fund 根本不归SEC管.
仔细看了下SEC的 Comp21489
致命的地方(全部为事实,类似第45条推论就不说了)有：
证据:陈述33-34段
On February 5,2007, Paulson sent an email to ACA, with a copy to Tourre,
deleting eight RMBS recommended by ACA, leaving the rest, and stating that
Tourre agreed that 92 bonds were a sufficient portfolio.
34. On February 5,2007, an internal ACA email asked, "Attached is the
revised portfolio that Paulson would like us to commit to - all names are at
the Baa2level. The final portfolio will have between 80 and these |
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发帖数: 9007 | 9 The critical piece of this case comes down to that:
did Fabrice Tourre misrepresent the trade to ACA and IBK in that he told
them Paulson & Co. was longing the CDO (or specifically the equity tranche).
If this is true, GS is in trouble.
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发帖数: 78 | 10 小弟有些问题不是特别明白,请教版上大侠~~
前两天, GS杯具了,因为CDO的原因,被SEC起诉,同被起诉的还有一个它的VP,好像叫
TOURRE
然后,股市大跌,金融股票尤甚. 美元上涨,贵金属,原油大跌.
据说,贵金属大跌的一个原因是,美元上涨,从而降低了贵金属作为保值投资产品的吸引
力.而美元的上涨,是因为中国最近的经济政策和希腊金融危机的影响. (事实上,也许是
欧元跌得更加厉害,世界各主要货币,只有日元对美元是上涨)
另外,贵金属大跌据说还有个可能的原因,我没大看懂,bloomberg说:
"Goldman is a major player in gold, silver, all commodities. They have
massive positions. This puts a big question mark on all commodity activity..
................... It could be the case that traders stop making trades
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发帖数: 19471 | 11 就地正法是不可能的啦，黑老大在全世界呼风唤雨，最终还是有助于美国的利益。但是
呢，为了选举，要让老百姓和老干部们出出气。
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发帖数: 4348 | 12 拿一个小VP来充数， shame on SEC.
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发帖数: 714 | 13 22岁stanford ms毕业就在gs混，很强大啊
Street firm since July 2001.
in New York City, according to the SEC. The 31-year-old is currently in
London as executive director of Goldman Sachs International.
where he identifies himself as a 2000 graduate of Ecole Centrale Paris with
a bachelor's degree in mathematics, followed by a 2001 master's degree in
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发帖数: 3875 | 17 ED is nothing. still a labor. |
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发帖数: 2664 | 18 没有任何道理，它所说的都在sec的起诉书里，前三点SEC第二页就写了，除了
independant这个词，可不是他说independant就independant的，third-party而已。第
四点他说啥就是啥了吗？保尔森在交易里面起了什么作用只有调查了才知道。SEC原话：
Tourre also misled ACA into believing that Paulson invested approximately $200 million in the equity of ABACUS 2007-AC1 (a long position) and, accordingly, that Paulson’s interests in the collateral section process were aligned with ACA’s when in reality Paulson’s interests were sharply conflicting. |
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发帖数: 8227 | 19 What a "wonderful" wall street story...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304180804575188060696896860.html
A 31-year-old Frenchman who described himself in an email as "fabulous Fab,"
Mr. Tourre received a paycheck of more than $2 million as a vice president
in the firm's New York office in 2007, people familiar with the matter say.
That compensation was due partly to his success with the deal at the center
of the controversy, according to one of those people.
The Abacus deal was fin |
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发帖数: 5829 | 20 IS THE most powerful and controversial firm on Wall Street about to get the
comeuppance that so many think it deserves? On Friday April 16th America’s
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filed civil charges against Goldman
Sachs and one of its vice-presidents, Fabrice Tourre, for allegedly
defrauding investors by failing to disclose vital information about a
financial product linked to subprime mortgages, as America’s housing market
was starting to wobble. Goldman’s shares tumbled, dragging |
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发帖数: 3784 | 21 【财新网】（特派记者 李增新 18日发自美国华盛顿）4 月16日下午，美国证监会（
SEC）对高盛公司提出起诉后，高盛发布声明称SEC起诉“没有法律根据”，并对多项指
控做出辩护。但在SEC已掌握的证据面前，高盛的辩解已显无力。
“我正在ACA与保尔森基金的会上，这真是梦幻一般。”高盛舞弊案的核心人物、被告
人法布雷斯·托雷（Fabrice Tourre）按捺不住喜悦，会议中就向同事发送了电子邮件。
这是在2007年2月2日，他代表高盛公司第二次在ACA Management公司位于纽约的办公室
进行三方会议。一个月前的第一次会面后，ACA代表还满腹狐疑；此时，三方已经在挑
选合适的基础证券，用来搭建一项大型合成抵押债务债券（Synthetic CDO）。在当年
的4月26日，名为“ABACUS 2007-AC1”的CDO产品正式上市，最终售出约109亿美元。
4月16日，SEC正式向纽约南区法院提出民事诉讼，控告高盛公司及当时负责的负责人托
雷。在22页的起诉书中，SEC根据数月调查掌握的证据，将这一“惊天弊案”原型再现
，同时细数高盛罪状：
第一，该产品基础资产本由保尔森公司（Pa |
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发帖数: 909 | 22 戏刚上演，慢慢看来
应该是多幕，多角色
04/16 SEC charged a civil fraud suit againt GS
Goldman said it will "vigorously contest them and defend the firm and
its reputation."
04/17 08 promises financial reform with regulations for derivatives
04/19 rumor has it that the SEC votes are 3:2 --> GS 有瓜葛yu 报料？
Future developments:
Fabrice Tourre: still employed by GS; will he cooperate with SEC --> more GS
high level will be revealed?
GS --> 下一幕 （ER on 04/20/10)
SEC --〉下一幕
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发帖数: 900 | 23 华府打击高盛的行动升级，《华尔街日报》引述消息指出，美国联邦检控机关正对高盛
及其员工进行刑事调查，以查明他们是否在抵押贷款交易业务中有证券欺诈行为。基于
法律风险，美银和标普昨同时大幅下调高盛目标价，导致其股价一度大跌逾8%，美股亦
随之由升转跌。
美国62名众议员周三联署要求司法部调查高盛，称根据证交会的文件，高盛的刑事
欺诈具「历史性规模」，必须予以调查。这令市场相信司法部可能受到政治压力而加强
对高盛的调查。证交会最近就CDO欺诈事件，向高盛和执行董事图尔（Fabrice Tourre
）提出民事起诉，高盛和图尔辩称没任何违法行为。检控机关仍未决定是否要提出刑事
指控。
在美国，刑事调查并不一定导致提控。去年，美国司法机关指控两名前贝尔斯登高
层向客户虚报基金财务状，最终失败而回，令美国司法机关声誉受损。要令高盛入罪
，检控人员需要相信他们手上有足够证据，证明高盛或其员工在按揭业务中故意欺骗客
户，何这次涉及的相关金融产品极为複杂，华尔街以外的人鲜能了解。不过，若成功
起诉，根据美国金融业200多年历史，没有一间大型金融机构能活下来，包括1980年代
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发帖数: 2053 | 25 By DANIEL WAGNER and DAN STRUMPF, AP Business Writers Daniel Wagner And
Dan Strumpf, Ap Business Writers – Sat Apr 24, 6:15 pm ET
NEW YORK – As the U.S. housing turned downward in January 2007, a Goldman
Sachs trader wrote in e-mails to a woman he apparently was courting that
investments he had sold were "like Frankenstein turning against his own
inventor."
"I'm trading a product which a month ago was worth $100 and today is only
worth $93," wrote Fabrice Tourre, who was charged along with t |
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发帖数: 3386 | 26 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100417/ap_on_bi_ge/us_goldman_sachs_legal_s
torm/print;_ylt=At4x4x0czqtQ9ogmAMsz30Nv24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTBvajZzaTFyBHBvcw
MxNQRzZWMDdG9wBHNsawNwcmludA--
By DANIEL WAGNER, AP Business Writer
2 hrs 30 mins ago
WASHINGTON – The fraud charges against Goldman Sachs & Co. that rocked
financial markets Friday are no slam dunk, as hazy evidence and
strategic pitfalls could easily trip up government lawyers.
Yet that hardly matters, experts say, because the allegations will kick
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