g*****e
发帖数: 3417 | 1 其实这个游戏的画风和人设我挺喜欢的，就是觉得前期的情节太平淡了，还有就是不喜
欢传说系列的战斗系统，最后烂尾了 |
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L******k
发帖数: 2945 | 3 不可能只玩了1/3吧呵呵，你可能看的那个攻略后面填了不少支线剧情之类的？我记得
30个小时主线应该快打完了，除非你喜欢跟我一样刷材料之类的
我觉得你不喜欢的是动作类战斗系统，tales的系统类似与action/fighting游戏（类似
的比如地门锁），而且传说系统可以连击combo，打出上百的combo很爽。我喜欢这种系
统超过传统rpg。
剧情属于typical jrpg剧情，我也没有印象了，但是几个人物还挺喜欢的
新的高清tales三月份要出了 |
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g*****e
发帖数: 3417 | 4 这个系统对我来说有个很大的问题，新队友加入之后你是控制新队友呢，还是继续控制
原来在用的角色呢？我一般都只用猪脚，因为一直换角色用的话很难练出超必杀.但如
果一直用猪脚，那新队友的技能又玩不了了，少了很多乐趣.除非剧情很出色，不然我
没动力玩多周目练别的角色.
地门锁其实应该算arpg,而且是剧情基本上可以无视的那种. |
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g*****e
发帖数: 3417 | 5 传说系列的超必杀必须狂用必杀技才能刷出来，老换角色的话超杀就很难出了. 找ld一
起玩听起来很不错，可惜我老婆已经被我儿子套牢了，没空陪我玩了
御姐 |
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t**********r
发帖数: 2019 | 6 两个游戏都是开头了两三个小时，准备拿出来通掉。刚搞完FFB-2，再通两个JRPG估计
得吐。暂时两个选一个的话应该选哪个？ |
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l**********s
发帖数: 4363 | 8
打过Nier么，这个贴必须要两个游戏都打通了的人，才能定论 |
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C***t
发帖数: 10731 | 10 我没定论 也没推荐任何一个 我只是写个时间参考 因为LZ说打太久会吐 |
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L******k
发帖数: 2945 | 11 两个是次世代top3的rpg，你连ffb2都白金了这两个都不应该错过 |
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s****t
发帖数: 17096 | 12 en
nier的剧情比较神，可惜FFB-2没有请他们的人制作 |
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L******k
发帖数: 2945 | 13 剧情还可以，joystiq的review说的很贴切，namco是可以把友情和爱写成phd毕业论文
那种
关键词:友情 爱 保护 等等
人物刻画还可以，不如toa，tov，比同类jrpg强点。 |
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l**********s
发帖数: 4363 | 14
TOV的故事比较呆逼，这个比起来如何，我看看要不要买个 |
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L******k
发帖数: 2945 | 16 tales of graces f, resonance of fate, star ocean 4, tales of vesperia (只有
日版）, Nier, FF13-2，eternal sonata
能想起来可以推荐就这几个，还有demon's souls/dark souls但这两个不是jrpg style
，不过也很推荐
IMO,togf是次世代最佳jrpg,排下来是resonance of fate和Nier，ToV（也就是薄暮传
说）没有英文版，所以你还得import+看的懂日文
加一句，才看到楼主说prefer中/日文版。如果看得懂日文上面还可以加个tales of
xillia。不过我觉得既然jrpg的设定大多是西方中古设定，翻成英文一般没什么影响，
能举个例子哪个游戏没翻出内在的东西么？ |
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C***t
发帖数: 10731 | 18 ToV美版只有360上..话说现在360都白菜价了也..
轨迹饭的话 上eternal sonata吧 另外推荐尝试一下valkyria chronicles 勉强算SRPG
把 -v- |
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z******y
发帖数: 192 | 19 TOV美版其实配音还挺不错的，刚搞定一周目，不过好像没有什么动力继续刷了。。。
准备出掉 |
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R**T
发帖数: 784 | 20 顶这个，听judith姐姐说话是我玩TOV的主要动力之一 |
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G***a
发帖数: 27294 | 21 local的小店，清仓最后一件。。。。牌子叫TOV，好像不能网购。。 |
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J********o
发帖数: 17447 | 22 FYI, 96-97赛季上将的出场纪录
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/robinda01.html
Rk G Date Age Tm Opp GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB
AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS GmSc
1 1 1996-12-10 31-126 SAS @ PHO L (-17) 1 20:00 3 13 .231 0 0 3 4 .750 2 7
9 0 1 1 1 1 9 4.5
2 2 1996-12-12 31-128 SAS @ LAC L (-3) 1 25:00 6 12 .500 0 0 8 11 .727 2 5
7 1 1 1 2 1 20 15.7
3 3 1996-12-14 31-130 SAS DAL W (+1) 1 25:00 10 13 .769 0 0 7 10 .700 4 6
10 1 1 2 1 1 27 27.0
4 4 1996-12-19 31-135 SAS @ HO... 阅读全帖 |
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m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 23 制度上的进步! that's what I am saying
Go Bro go!!!
That's your world, your life.
Thank you for letting me know ideas like that still exist.
Mazel Tov!
Baruch Hashem!! |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 24 1:11 There is a specific reason why the apostle who has so focused his life
on doing the will of God longs to come and see a church he did not found. It
is because he longs to impart some spiritual gift (cavrisma…pneumatikoVn,
charisma pneumatikon) to them in order to strengthen (eij" toV sthricqh'nai,
eis to sterichthenai) them.
The spiritual gift Paul wants to impart to them is not the sort of spiritual
gift mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12-14. These gifts were given according to
the will of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 25 1:11 There is a specific reason why the apostle who has so focused his life
on doing the will of God longs to come and see a church he did not found. It
is because he longs to impart some spiritual gift (cavrisma…pneumatikoVn,
charisma pneumatikon) to them in order to strengthen (eij" toV sthricqh'nai,
eis to sterichthenai) them.
The spiritual gift Paul wants to impart to them is not the sort of spiritual
gift mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12-14. These gifts were given according to
the will of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 26 1:19-20 The word because (diovti, dioti) should be understood as explaining
why God’s wrath is leveled against all the ungodliness of men who suppress
the truth by unrighteous acts. It is because what can be known about God has
been plainly revealed to them so that they are without excuse when they den
y to God his existence and divine nature. In other words, God has so created
man and placed him within creation that for man to deny His existence, powe
r, and divine nature is to commit a crime w... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 27 1:19-20 The word because (diovti, dioti) should be understood as explaining
why God’s wrath is leveled against all the ungodliness of men who suppress
the truth by unrighteous acts. It is because what can be known about God has
been plainly revealed to them so that they are without excuse when they den
y to God his existence and divine nature. In other words, God has so created
man and placed him within creation that for man to deny His existence, powe
r, and divine nature is to commit a crime w... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 28 2:12-13 In vv. 12-13 Paul explains the implications of v. 11 where he said t
hat there is no partiality with God. Since this is true, the Gentile will no
t be judged by the law, but will perish apart from the law, whereas the Jew
who had the law of Moses will be condemned by that law. Thus vv. 12-13 prefi
gure what the apostle will say in 3:9-20, namely, that all are guilty and wi
ll be punished according to God's justice.
But the Jew should not think that just because he was given the law that ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 29 E. Exposition Proper
What Paul has been saying regarding the Jews, albeit somewhat obliquely in 2
:1-16, comes into the full light of day in 2:17-29. The fact of their hypocr
isy, alluded to in 2:1-3, is highlighted with full force in 2:17-29.
Romans 2:17-29 breaks down in three smaller units. In 2:17-20, Paul—through
the use of a series of conditional statements which are never really formal
ly completed—focuses on the particular claims of the Jew as one who was pri
vileged and sustained a spec... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 30 E. Exposition Proper
What Paul has been saying regarding the Jews, albeit somewhat obliquely in 2
:1-16, comes into the full light of day in 2:17-29. The fact of their hypocr
isy, alluded to in 2:1-3, is highlighted with full force in 2:17-29.
Romans 2:17-29 breaks down in three smaller units. In 2:17-20, Paul—through
the use of a series of conditional statements which are never really formal
ly completed—focuses on the particular claims of the Jew as one who was pri
vileged and sustained a spec... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 31 5:13 The term for (gaVr, gar) indicates that what follows in vv. 13-14 is ex
planatory. But of what? It seems that Paul is trying to explain that univers
al death is due to Adam’s transgression, not to the presence or absence of
the law. Thus vv. 13-14 explain Paul’s statement in v. 12a-c that universal
sin and death are due to Adam’s transgression. His ultimate point is to fu
rther buttress the close connection established in v. 12 between Adam and th
e race which itself will be compared to the... 阅读全帖 |
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C******g
发帖数: 2930 | 32 官网开放
http://tov.namco-ch.net/ps3/
主线剧情 将全语音化。追加剧本的量共6冊，近乎于之前XBOX的原有量一样
秘奧義 、新迷官追加預定
與劇場版 連動要素預定中
此外收录新角色的新PV将于4月中旬在PSN进行配信
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