c*******g
发帖数: 1996 | 1 1. 任何打印机都可以traid in吗？ 2. 比如说一个打印机$200有100的rebate, 加上现
在的20% off折扣，200 - （200 * 0.2）- 50 - 100 = $10？ |
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c*******g
发帖数: 1996 | 2 certain model of the printer to traid in or certain model of the printer to
buy? |
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z*****t
发帖数: 428 | 3 certain model of the printer to traid in |
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 4 看这个评论，印度运动员说当年雅典奥运会的时候，也有很多类似的问题。但是西方媒
体就没像对待印度一样大肆嘲笑。
unis mohammed (muscat)
28 Sep, 2010 07:38 PM
read india's high jump athlet anju boby's interview.she has encountered
similier situation in nomber of places including athens olympic venue .the
accomadation was dirty and was not completed.doha games also had the same
problems.but,their media traid to support the organisers until the last
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j*****n
发帖数: 1781 | 5 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
chivalryman (Admin) 于 (Thu Apr 9 10:37:58 2009) 提到:
在经历了2个月的研究，实战，折磨，痛苦之后，上个月末终于买了新车。09 Subaru
Forester with Premium package 外加 splash guards, tailpipe covers, body side
molding, puddle lights and auto dim/compass mirror. OTD price $23782.由于我
有traid-in $3000（属于政府补贴，我的破车dealer 估价$500)，实际价钱是$20782.
我们已经很满足了。
我们本来在TX，不需要四轮驱动。但是考虑到将来可能到北边去工作，老婆强烈要求买
四轮驱动的车。刚开始看的是CRV和RAV4.TX这边这类车很少很少，所以dealer要价很高
很高。没法谈。后来发现Subaru只有四轮驱动的车。而且在TX卖得不好。便转移战场了。
联系了两三个Subaru de |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 6 我的２００８ ３２８XI WAGON前一个星期电池坏了，送去BMW DEALER，被告知保修不
包括电池，换电池需要＄５８０，电池＄２３０＋REPROGRAMMING＄３５０。我当时就
晕了，问什么是REPROGRAMMING，修的人也搞不懂，反正说一定要REPROGRAM，否则电池
没有办法工作。没办法，只好付了。。。电池换好又被告知VALTSONICE MOTOR有问题需
要换掉，还好保修COVER，就换了。
上周２去拿回车，停在车库没有开。周６早上全家出门，突然车又不能发动了，只好在拖车到
DEALER。一直到今天周３DEALER才打电话来说他们还没有确定车的毛病在哪里，最早
需要下个星期才能拿车，不过应该保修是COVER的。
还好，保修是１２月到期。才３万MILE的车啊，就这样。上个星期第一次修的时候看到
一个老头在付修理费，他的２００３ ５系列坏了，修理费是７８００刀。。。晕啊。。
已经和老婆商量好，修好就去TRADE－IN，换ACURA，LEXUS， B甚至BUICK。BMW的质量
实在太烂。。。价格太贵，修不起，， |
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m*t
发帖数: 7490 | 8 bmw 4年免费保修、保养
出了这个期限就别在dealer那修了，伤不起
不过我lease过两次，从来没在保修期里坏过任何东西，都是只做保养。
也许我运气比较好？ |
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M*******m
发帖数: 168 | 9 The dealer told me the bmw warranty covers everything but tires within the
first 4 years.
在拖车到
。。 |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 10 是啊，新车的时候没有问题是没有什么。一旦过了保修，出个问题修理起来价格就像是
抢钱。修理费用暴贵。偏偏RELIABILITY又是BELOW AVERAGE，这就比较坑爹了。。
换个电池ACURA DEALER也只要１００多，最多了。BMW要５倍的价钱。。 |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 11 no... they told me the same thing when i bought the car... but in the fine
prints, I read that the battery only covered for 2 years.. |
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m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 12 BMW, is just a German Toyota, haha
I threw mine too 2 weeks ago.
Only women and sissy men like BMW, the same kind of people for Toyota
oh year I formed this opinion long time ago and I am proven right AGAIN and
AGAIN and AGAIN all these years.
Only women ask me about BMW. We men don't talk about BMW.
there used to be an ID here kept arguing with me about this opinion of mine.
so long ago, i forgot that ID already. |
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c**u
发帖数: 2230 | 13 Bimmer 再次也比Audi强. 我当年的A4苦不堪言, 还差点高速出事.
现在觉得reliability, 不超心最重要了. Acura不错, 开着舒服.
最烂的牌子: audi, land rover. |
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S******A
发帖数: 1002 | 14 they always catch you on that
fine |
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l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 15
在拖车到
。。
i changed battery of 2002 bmw 330Cic in 10 minutes. it was from costco and
cost 50 bucks. |
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m**********e
发帖数: 12525 | 16 这些新的欧洲车计算机都不能掉电,一旦掉电什么都没了,
连idle都idle不了,所以需要reprogramming ecu.而且它们的
ecu都有密码,这密码还是PKI机制的,只有dealer有master key(是digital key,
存在SD卡里面),你即使买个bmw的tool自己也换不了.
bmw还算好的,你要搞个range rover,更不得了.
所以相比之下toyota就nice多了,掉电后还能发动起来,自己idel一会计算机
能自己relearn
在拖车到
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l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 18
只有dealer有master key(是digital key,: 存在SD卡里面),你即使买个bmw的tool自己
也换不了.
this is BS. lots of after-market bmw battery sellers provide reprogramming
service. my friend changed his 2008 535xi battery by a local AGM dealer (AGM
battery is better than bmw OEM one). the total cost is $175. if u wanna go
cheap there are something under $100. |
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l***l
发帖数: 68 | 20 这到是第一次听说,上次听同事说他的530在4年免费保养结束前,把闸给换了,居然也是
免费.建议你再给别的dealer打打电话,问问价格,不同的dealer报价是不一样的.至少知
道自己有没有被黑. |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 21 虽然nobody knows who you are，话有的时候也不需要讲的太满了。
Is your dick so small that you have to beat others like that? Does that make
you feel manly? |
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j****0
发帖数: 1074 | 22 我曾经7年时间拥有过三辆acura，没坏过一次。literally，除了maintenance, 没进过
garage |
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j****0
发帖数: 1074 | 23 哦 补充一句，我三辆车的vin都是j开头，北美产的没开过， |
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a*******a
发帖数: 4212 | 24 So why not try cadillac? |
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a*******a
发帖数: 4212 | 25 So why not try cadillac? |
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a*******a
发帖数: 4212 | 26 So why not try cadillac? |
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s**m
发帖数: 71 | 27 08的车DEALER 也应该去过好几次了，可能你跟你的的SEVICE ADVISER 还不熟， 熟的
话电池是可以不收的，至少可以省4，5百。
在拖车到
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 28 yeah, I called 2 other dealers nearby, same price...
tires and batteries are not in warranty, everything else is. |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 29 i would not be able to do that until the car's 4 yr warranty expires. Before
the warranty expires, if someone other than BMW touches the car, they may
void my waranty on the entire car. |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 30 i agree..
will be shopping for a new acura this weekend... |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 31 i know, its a total rip off... they said that without reprogramming, the car
would not recognize the battery... bmw must have really bad programmers.. |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 32 their style only appeals to an earlier generation.. sorry, the aesthetics of
a car still matters to me...
i think acura looks nice and more reliable.. |
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a*******a
发帖数: 4212 | 33 I dont think so. Have you every seen the new CTS? It aims to young consumers
, not for senior.
of |
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m****s
发帖数: 8992 | 34 BMW is for GIRLS and SISSIES
I don't care whether they are GOOD cars or not.
who cares?
I don't HAVE BMW anymore... i am so happy. |
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s**m
发帖数: 71 | 35 你同事和LZ都没错。我的闸还省50% 他们都给换了因为是保修前最后一次免费保养。
其实关建是那个接待的服务生愿不愿帮你了。 |
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l***l
发帖数: 68 | 36 如果电池不在保修之内,服务生可能也很难帮上,通常他们有10%OFF 的决定权,大钱就要
去找主管了. LZ有没有去查查,是不是有别的问题,导致电池耗光了? 通常电池不够了,
在做维护时就可以查到.或者LZ把车放在那长久不开? |
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l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 37
Before
u got totally ripped off. the total cost of changing battery by dealer in
flushing area is no more than 500.
they just cheated you. changing battery doesn't need any reprogramming. it
should be battery registration, meaning register new battery with car
computer. lots of ppl buy battery theirself and then bring to dealer and ask
them to register it. it'd only cost 50 bucks. and this won't affect your
warranty.
because of your lack of knowledge of your own car dealer just took advantage
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 38 i am close to flushing, in great neck, the service was done by bayside bmw.
I call ParkAve BMW in NJ (where I used to live) and they gave me the same
rate..
oh well, have to admit, i know nothing about cars. this is my first car,
ever. before moving to Long Island, I didn't even know how to pump gas (in
NJ, customers don't pump their own gas). I have never even opend the lid to see the engine before.
ask
advantage |
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c******7
发帖数: 2586 | 39
在拖车到
。。
我觉得是你的dealer问题，换一家bmw dealer试试看，虽然acura确实不错，但是为了
电池就换车就太夸张了.
另外，大多数人电池坏了都自己换，你不能去costco买一个电池自己换出来吗？ |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 40 its not just about the battery, it is a once 5 - 6 year expenses anyway. But
if the cost of changing a battery is a few times more than other brands,
its more about how expensive things are to come once the car warranty
expires next month. |
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l********l
发帖数: 9452 | 42
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to see the engine before.
next time better learn it first and then go to dealer. otherwise if dealer
thinks u know nothing about your car then oc they are gonna destroy u......
no matter which brand car u have
mdx dealer even sucks more, just like what they did with my boss |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 43 i know... knowing nothing about cars would certainly cost me more everytime
i bring the car to the dealership...
but at least with a more reliable japanese car, i would need fewer trips to
the dealer, lessen the chance of getting ripped off. |
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m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 44 hey Boss
I am making one extra car key
the dealer is asking for more than 200 fricking dollars.
Do I have a cheaper alternative?
Thanks Chief!
ask
advantage |
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h*********8
发帖数: 404 | 46 u can always buy extended warrenty before the 4 yrs one expires...
in general, MB has best reliability among germans...especailly E class... |
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m***1
发帖数: 22 | 48 当年买车时,考虑新手不会开车,就买了一台旧车.目的就是拿它学开车, 学会后换另一
辆. 没想到, 这个车一直工作很好,没出过大毛病,只是换了轮胎.一直开这个车,一晃快
有十年了.我平时用车很少,买车的时候里程是113,850迈. 现在不到135,000迈.有计划
在近期换车.这辆旧车,不知是自己登广告卖好,还是Trade in.
车的基本信息:
1990, Toyota Corolla
4 doors sedan,
No air-condition, No air-bags
2003年买价: $1300.
网上查了kelley blue book, 但查不到1990.我知道这个车太旧了. 如果Traide in, 肯
定不值几个钱.
请大家看看, 能值多少钱, 我想先在craiglist上登广告,看看是否能卖掉.
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j******e
发帖数: 40 | 49 update:
谢谢大家的建议。
最后还是没禁住新车的诱惑，trade in 了2012 leather AWD，买了2014 Premium AWD.
不考虑 trade in, 新车的价格是 MSRP 51365+20% off + 2200 discount=38892 再加
ttl
2012 leather AWD dealer给了26500的trade in 价格。算是kbb上trade in 价格的平
均值。但dealer给我看的手册上，26500是同状况车的trade in 最高价，所以dealer不
愿在trade in 价格上让步。自己卖的话kbb上给的是28000-29000左右，但在大农村，
基本找不到会从私人手里买接近3万块车的人。而且还要交税。
说说感受。已经开了两年，很喜欢enclave。家里两娃，有时有1-2老人来帮忙，所以全
家在local出行还是挺方便的。长途的话，第三排没法坐大人，但等娃大了后估计可以
坐第三排。而且两个小娃长途出行东西多，肯定要把第三排放倒，放东西。2014新车比
老车多了盲区警报，出线警报，前碰撞警报, bose 音响，前排座椅冷... 阅读全帖 |
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