y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: 这两个英国老的命就没有travon那么好.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 29 14:38:30 2012, 美东)
嘿嘿...
这两吊丝还真以为他们是stephenking了.
Families Of British Teens Murdered In U.S. Lash Out At Obama White House For
Ignoring Them
Before the Obama presidency, it would have been considered ludicrous for the
White House to weigh into every politically relevant criminal act – but
the president has invited this criticism by elevating several local
controversies to national ... 阅读全帖 |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 2 because it is not just about travon.
it is about how main stream media reporting half ass truth and mislead
controversy to score their own political gain.
today it could be zimmerman, tomorrow it could be any of us. |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 3
coming
So Stand Your Ground law doesn't apply to Travon Martin?
Plus, two of the witnesses dispute the claim that Travon Martin was
beating up Zimmerman. They claim they heard Travon Martin cry for help. |
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C****n 发帖数: 2324 | 4 我一直不知道这个是怎么回事, 知道前天这里有个帖子号召我去Sign my signature,
to support Travon.
于是我就去看了一下那个抗议书, 我一看就TMD的笑了, 根本没理一帮恶棍. 不是我种
族歧视, 那个抗议书简直就是骗傻逼的.
里面有一张照片, 然后说TRAVON回家的路上给干掉了.
我想这个事的具体过程是什么呢? 那个抗议书里什么也没写. 我说TMD总的给那个杀人
者说话的机会啊. 你最起码把那个杀人者的辩解也写下来, 我看了一下说" bullshit,
he is lying", 这样我不就支持你了吗? 你妈什么也不写, 就说人家把你杀了. 不管是
真是家, 那个人就算撒谎也会编个谎话吧. 你妈什么也不不说, 就说你孩子给人干掉了
, 明显不是要骗我老人家签字嘛.
去TMD, 才不理这帮人呢.
那我猜测一点吧, 这个黑人肯定是和老墨有了冲突, 老墨说我是城管, 你码老老实实听
话. 老黑在美国生活习惯了, 不知道这个城管在中国培训过, 说我理你丫的, 你再横我
就凑你. 结果老墨就把他结果了.
最后我认为老墨无罪. 象这种情况一般来说杀人者无罪的. ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****g 发帖数: 21627 | 5 re这个
尼玛走地鸡这烂鸡的屁文章居然还在标题里面用特殊字符吸引钻风的眼球,
实在无聊到鸡窝了
走地鸡,外发中的战逗鸡!!!
哦对了,本来zimmerman是是秘鲁hispanic外F疣太人混出来的后代
本来我还对travon 有一丝的同情
不过既然走地鸡支持travon,导致我在这个问题上毫不含糊地支持zimmerman |
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f***e 发帖数: 5443 | 6 美国的问题(一)
枪械问题和种族问题
老钱
8/19/2014
这次的事件,已经闹了快两周了。事实是什么呢?没有录像,就没有人能说得清。
其实,一开始警察方面就说了,是这个200多磅的18岁的青年扑向警官,出拳攻击,并
且夺枪,所以这个警官开枪了。可是,就在这个青年被击毙11分钟前和他一起抢店的同
伙说,不是的,他已经跪下求饶了,并说,不要开枪;警察仍然开枪了。还有说,他转
身逃离,警察仍然继续开枪了。。。
那么,到底真相是什么呢?这是一个法制严明而且基本可信赖的社会。怎么办?就应该
等待司法裁判。
我为这个青年的生命惋惜,也为这个事态焦虑。
没出国门之前,发生车祸之类的了,首先拉上叔伯兄弟哥们砸上门去,打他个头破血流
,再要赔钱。谁的哥们多,狠,谁胜。下一步,再到衙门里找关系。谁的关系狠,谁胜
。。。到了美国之后,我们已经习惯了,首先报警,然后坐下来聊天。警察出报告了,
某一方的保险公司掏钱赔偿。基本事情就结束了。不服,就走司法程序了。绝大多数的
事件,就到警察处理就行了。因为,这个制度是基本可靠可信可行的。
可以不相信郡警方。就向州司法移送。也不相信州司法,就向联邦闹。所以,要做第... 阅读全帖 |
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m******8 发帖数: 2153 | 7 Four Dudes Explain Why Straight Guys Should Embrace The Gay Community
While we tend to frame our arguments for straight people’s acceptance of
gays around things like love and liberty, it’s sometimes more pragmatic to
get the point across a little differently.
This video, sent to the Queerty tipline by Travon Free (one of the of the
stand-up comedians in it), explains why straight dudes ought to get wise
about the gay community in no-nonsense street talk.
One of Travon’s comic arguments: “Just b... 阅读全帖 |
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k****k 发帖数: 3322 | 8 Travon Martin和George Zimmerman的案件终于要迎来最后的判决了,迈阿密当局和当
地警察异常紧张,已经开始加强警力对可能发生的暴力事件做好准备。
这个案件可以说是离谱的可以。本来是一个典型的自卫案件,因为死者的未成年,黑人
身份,引起黑人社会的极大反弹,连总统奥巴马都亲自过问,宣传马丁像自己的儿子(
虽然他从来就没儿子),最后在强大压力下法院不得不起诉开枪自卫的一方,George
Zimmerman.
本来司法是独立的,但现在却受到社会舆论影响和奥巴马明目张胆的行政干预,再加上
媒体的推波助澜而不得不被动应对。只是这样搞的话,这个案件恐怕从一开始就注定了
失败的结局:因为不管怎么判,美国都是最后的输家。
如果判Zimmerman无罪,黑人肯定要上街闹事,大呼种族歧视,奥巴马们也不会善罢甘
休,一定要借机生事,潜在的破坏就不说了,以后谁还敢得罪这些黑人?
如果判Zimmerman有罪,这可能成为继辛普森案件后另一个冤案,不少人对黑人的霸道
会更加厌恶,种族矛盾只会加剧。弗罗里达今后的自卫法也会被人质疑。
总之,耗时那么久,花了纳税人那么多钱,这个案件的最终结局却是... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 10
him?
Remember Zimmerman was the one doing the stalking and chasing. If anyone
had legitimate fear for his life, it was Travon Martin. |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 11
the
It
Well, I saw the mug shot of George Zimmerman after he was taken to the
police station. It shows no sign of a person who was beaten up, certainly
no sign of a broken nose that Zimmerman claimed he received from Travon
Martin.
That's means a lot to me. |
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I*1 发帖数: 5635 | 12 This mug shot is from a couple yrs ago not right now, same as Travon's
photo.
explain me why? |
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I*1 发帖数: 5635 | 13 exactly, I believe this Travon incident is made use of by left wing media
purposely to help Obama in the re-election. |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 14
No, that's wrong. Two of the 3 witnesses say they heard Travon Martin cry
for help, and it was Zimmerman on top of the body after the shooting. |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 15 你从哪里看到的谣言?
连travon的老爸一开始都说,这个嚎叫不是他小孩子的. |
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d******a 发帖数: 32122 | 17 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
yourtt (rainmaker) 于 (Thu Mar 29 22:05:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
小左们念talking points念的都不着调了.
zimmerman, hispanic, with black family members and a registered democrat.
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xuansu (xsu) 于 (Thu Mar 29 22:52:32 2012, 美东) 提到:
扯淡的老墨。有西裔血统就是老墨?
也就是你们这样脑筋坏掉的人自以为和右翼红脖子是同类。你们在他们眼里和老墨,黑
人是一样的有色人种。添屁股也要看看人家愿不愿意让你添。
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THR (???) 于 (Thu Mar 29 22:55:39 2012, 美东) 提到:
他是什么不重要,关键是他杀了个未来的祸害。
☆───... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******n 发帖数: 8420 | 18 人家是村里联防队的,前几天村里不太平,正好今天又看到一个陌生人在村里晃悠,为
什么不能跟?
倒是给travon洗地的发明出了各种各样的理由,什么丫进村是为了找某个朋友。可笑的
那些证人证言全都破绽百出,看法庭上他们作证的录像简直是对智商的侮辱。 |
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 19
这个报道很多矛盾, 开始说手上没伤, 后来有报道有伤。
WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had
injuries to his knuckles when he died.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/autopsy-reveals-travon-
最后庭审检方的论点是TM手上几乎没伤, 因此没打GZ。对此辩方的法医今天解释:
Asked whether the lack of bruising on Mr. Martin’s knuckles was significant
, Dr. Di Maio said that knuckles can bruise or not bruise depending on what
they hit. Dr. Di Maio also said that bruising can sometimes be found inside
the hand, but the doctor... 阅读全帖 |
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 20 "反省"的老黑,昨晚就有一个:
Piers节目上有个黑人reverend管Travon Martin叫"thug". |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 22 美国大概50%的高中里的50%的毕业生还是准文盲呢。
看看travon martin那逗逼女朋友, 就那点文化水, 还无数好大学offer呢。 |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 23 美国大概50%的高中里的50%的毕业生还是准文盲呢。
看看travon martin那逗逼女朋友, 就那点文化水, 还无数好大学offer呢。 |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 24 老黑的团结, 团结的去ferguson打砸抢。
团结的说travon martin & mike brown们, 16岁的孩子, little angel.
现在还有哪个非黑的一听16岁的孩子little angel不想笑的。
团结的力争上游是团结, 团结的去丢脸也是团结。
apple店门口的黄牛党就非常团结。 |
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d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 25 travon martin的时候有个column有个老黑来信说了一句黑人也要反思为什么犯罪率高
, 结果在该column上被其他黑人连骂了一周。
你果然很接近老黑的思维模式。
老中之所以是老中而不是老黑, 就是因为not thinking the 老黑 way. |
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t********i 发帖数: 7856 | 26 中国法律体系或者说立法理念有问题。
打人(打架)在中国法律中,只有打成法定轻伤以上才构成刑事犯罪(故意伤害罪)。
没有达到轻伤,只能算治安案件。最多赔点医药费拘留几天(要是有关系,一般也不用
拘留了)。虽然法定轻伤有明确的标准,但基层公安实际执法掌握的尺度也大不一样。
民风比较娘炮的地区(比如上海)执行得严格一些。要是民风彪悍的地区(比如东北西
北),只要没出人命警察基本懒得管。
所以在中国人心目中,打架只要掌握好下手的分寸(别打残打死),不算个大事。
在美国如果你把对方打到受伤(比如,头破血流),对方甚至可能实施无限自卫权。比
如佛罗里达州的小天使Travon Martin把芝麻人协警摁倒在地打得头破血流,于是协警
开枪击毙天使,无罪。如果同样的情况在中国发生,绝不可能判协警正当防卫(假设协
警不用枪)。
除了打人,美国从小学开始对孩子之间的bully非常重视。但中国学校基本不当回事。
所以小留拘禁打人在这边可以十年以上,中国也就说服教育而已。 |
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m******1 发帖数: 19713 | 27 25 sports people have already come out in 2011: athletes, journalists,
coaches and execs
May 17th, 2011
by Cyd Zeigler jr..
When Ross Forman of the Windy City Times asked me to come up with a list of
all the people in sports who have come out publicly this year, I had no idea
the number would eclipse two dozen. And still counting. From the two men
who kicked off this year, Johnny Weir and Steve Buckley, to the two so came
out this week, Rick Welts and Will Sheridan, here’s the list with links to... 阅读全帖 |
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 28 马甲版主,Travon那晚是出去7-11买了点东西往回走的路上,不应该被解释为"下着雨还
在外边转"吧.至于"鬼鬼祟祟,还往别人家窗户里面看", 这个是谁说的,有证据么? |
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L*********h 发帖数: 2617 | 29 why do YOU care about a Black kid killed by a Mexican?
it's so remote and so irrelevant to Chinese immigrants.
the Obama care thing could change everyone's life.
whether you are for or against that law, the health care system is deeply
sick, and it's everybody's business.
yet probably less than 1/10 of the ppl here could even understand the
complexity of the issues. |
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e***s 发帖数: 1397 | 30 I have to confess, the whole Trayvon incident - how the media handled it,
how the Negro community reacted to it - is very disturbing to me. |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 31 主流媒体要吃travon的人血馒头.
所以zimmerman不能有血. |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 32 嘿嘿...
这两吊丝还真以为他们是stephenking了.
Families Of British Teens Murdered In U.S. Lash Out At Obama White House For
Ignoring Them
Before the Obama presidency, it would have been considered ludicrous for the
White House to weigh into every politically relevant criminal act – but
the president has invited this criticism by elevating several local
controversies to national scandals for political gain.
James Cooper, 25, and James Kouzaris, 24, were killed in April of last year
by the remorseless Sean Tyson.... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a 发帖数: 3803 | 33 one comment:
president Shit does not respond to the murders, because
victims do not look like his "son".
Liberals, any thoughts on this? |
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A*****a 发帖数: 52743 | 34 They were his voters, I bet. |
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h*********r 发帖数: 10182 | 35 是Sean Tyson没有zimmerman那么命好。
美国杀人的多了,想zimmerman这么命好的还真少。
要是zimmerman真walk free,那sean tyson这样的就会大批出现。 |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 36 两个英国老要是手里有枪.
估计你又要为tyson唱PY了. |
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l******a 发帖数: 3803 | 37 On top of that, Travon's Dad got nothing back in stimulating the economy
other than releasing his worthless sons here and there.
In a response to rumors that Nobel committee ponder revoking Obama's PEACE
prize, Odumba: I'm sorry but (he's more apologetic overseas), Class war is
not war! and believe or not, Buffett is with me on this war. BTW, we're
both 1%. And it's only fair to say, at least part of me is not joke.
"read it loud, bitch - "
it's Michelle, who didn't even raise his head, oh no he... 阅读全帖 |
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k****k 发帖数: 3322 | 38 看来08果然是白加黑,白天吃白片,晚上吃黑片。说那个佛州被打死 Travon Martin
的时候,他是黑人。因为他说那人长得像他的儿子,(虽然他没有儿子)死得冤。
当说到他的长辈呢,此人整天讲自己的白外公,外婆怎么与人为善,从小就如何教他做
人。自己肯尼亚非法移民的黑亲姑妈,Half brother,以及非洲诸位穷兄弟,提都不提
,也没有任何资助,感觉就像白人3K党。08帮助穷人,那是鬼话。 |
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k****k 发帖数: 3322 | 39 看来08果然是白加黑,白天吃白片,晚上吃黑片。说那个佛州被打死 Travon Martin
的时候,他是黑人。因为他说那人长得像他的儿子,(虽然他没有儿子)死得冤。
当说到他的长辈呢,此人整天讲自己的白外公,外婆怎么与人为善,从小就如何教他做
人。自己肯尼亚非法移民的黑亲姑妈,Half brother,以及非洲诸位穷兄弟,提都不提
,也没有任何资助,感觉就像白人3K党。08帮助穷人,那是鬼话。 |
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b*******n 发帖数: 8420 | 40 这种建议还比较合理。
不过patrol这事也很难说,万一又击毙一个travon martin,liberal媒体又要跳出来吃
人血馒头了。 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 41 会有不少的,包括黑人. Travon Martin那个案子里面的不就是个latino的志愿者嘛? |
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S******8 发帖数: 24594 | 42 No president should give his personal opinion on this type of case. He is
doing nothing but race baiting and dividing. I have no respect for someone
who cannot be above the fray and govern. If Travon had been on the ground
getting his head beat against the cement and he shot Zimmerman who was on
top of him doing that this would never have been a story. |
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l*****8 发帖数: 16949 | 43 这个本来无关种族的案件被搞成种族事件就是Obama,Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,
MSNBC, CNN这些左棍和左媒为了自己的私利,挑动种族, 阶级(99% vs 1%)矛盾,
故意分化美国人民闹出来的。
现在全美国已经发生好几起黑人无端攻击白人,攻击完了都说“This is for travon".
如果司法部要调查种族仇恨,这几起才是真正应该被调查的。只不过现在似乎只要黑人
被攻击就是种族仇恨,黑人攻击别的种族都不算。 |
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k*****a 发帖数: 1463 | 44 Don't try to represent minority, let alone Chinese.
Travon is a felon, no mercy to felons. |
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 45 Travon在警察那里都没案底,到你这里就成felon了?!
倒是Zimmerman,至少在警察那里有家暴案底,这种人怎么也允许持枪还当什么社区巡逻?! |
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I******I 发帖数: 14241 | 46 Travon小蛋子被学校开除3次,私藏毒品,手机里有毒品和枪支照片
死之前在暴打zimmerman,如果活着就有案底了
逻?! |
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b*****e 发帖数: 53215 | 47 grown up travon的执政能力震古烁今 |
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i****a 发帖数: 36252 | 48 Travon Martin, Micheal Brown, 都是小天使。版上有些人多麽希望跟他们做邻
居, 儿子女儿跟他们做朋友
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com] |
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r*********e 发帖数: 7733 | 49 无关痛痒的说说有毛用?丫认travon干儿子,派狗腿煽动Ferguson 暴乱,嘴脸暴露无
疑。你有啥好洗的?丫就是一黑人酋长,不配做总统。 |
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