M*****e 发帖数: 1 | 1 hehe, of course seems ugly to you, pity for Whiners :))
Rams lost Trent Green in preseason, but out backup guy Kurt Warner still did
good job in beating Baltimore in his first NFL start, 300+ yards, 3TDs. There
are just too many weapons in the offense to be covered by enemies. Stay tuned
to see how they become better. If we can stop Jamel Anderson' and Ricky
Williams' running games, we will be in playoff. Remember I tell you this here
first :)) |
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G*****s 发帖数: 403 | 2 Cannot beleive Broncos ranks at #7. with Briese at QB, I
would rather have them lose.
1. St. Louis Rams (13-3) No Super Bowl champion in history
was ignored in the offseason as much as the Rams, but that's
a good thing. They have plenty of motivation to prove that
last season wasn't a fluke. If midnight finally strikes on
Kurt Warner, Mike Martz still has Trent Green to execute the
NFL's most confounding offense.
2. Redskins (10-6) Norv Turner had better brush up on his
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r**********h 发帖数: 13 | 3 6
Vikings在NFC Champ game中被Shout out, 而他们有六个Offensive
Players被选入本年Pro Bowl.
3
Tampa Bay先后放弃了三个QB,结果这些QB全都带领后来的队进了
Super Bowl. Trent Dilfer(ravens), Steve Young (49ers),
and Doug Williams(Skins).
Tampa的心在流血。
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Onwer Art Modell的Cleveland Browns从未染指Superbowl,
而迁到Baltimore后仅五年时间就美梦成真。Cleveland的球迷的
心情是痛苦不堪,现在的Browns是任人宰割的一只鱼腩之师,而
昔日的Browns却根本不认往日的旧情,没有给丝毫Credit给
Cleveland。
网上,报纸上和Radio中两地球迷的争论会至少持续两周到
Superbowl.
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Ray Lowis从未当选为Defensive Player of the Week, but gets
Defensive Player of the Year.而在不到一年 |
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r**********h 发帖数: 13 | 4 这几周college football明星赛一定集中了不少NFL各队球探。他们
几乎掀开每一片叶子来希望发现又一个Manning, Elway,Marino。
但今天的Conference Championship Game也许会提醒他们去自己球场
外的垃圾堆里翻翻,没准就会找到一个率队冲入Superbowl的QB。因
为今天进入Superbowl的Giants' Kerry Collins和Ravens'Trent
Dilfer就是这样虑被抛弃的QB。
Collins先是从Panthers推出,后被Saints抛弃,然后才被Gaints招
入。他曾酗酒成瘾,被指为种族歧视分子和溜号者。
想当年Collins在Penn State战绩辉煌,1994带领Nittany Lions取得
12-0,被很多人公认为是NCAA历史上最好的Offense。Expansion
Team Carolina在95年第一轮就选了他(Overall No.5 Pick)。这小哥
第二年就带队打入NFC Champ Game。可惜他酗酒成瘾,在97年
Training Camp的party上还酒后对黑人队友出 |
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r**********h 发帖数: 13 | 5 目前为止因为Ravens进Superbowl而黯然神伤的出了Browns fans 外
就该是Tampa Bay的了。
94年当Tampa 在第一轮(overall No. 6) 签下他后, Dilfer就以他的
潜力来取笑Tampa的选择。上赛季结束Tampa只好放弃他, Ravens对
Dilfer映象如此深刻以至竟然和他签了一年合同到本赛季结束,
且以Tony Banks做首发QB。
可怜的28岁的Dilfer直到第八场才有扔球的机会。然后就在Oct. 29
开始首发对Steelers。当时的Ravens已是连续五场没有一个TD,而
伟大的Steelers连续四场没有yeild 一个TD, 人气直逼当年的Steel
Curtain。Dilfer是场以6-9败于Steelers, 但没想此后一直连胜
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r**********h 发帖数: 13 | 6 Raven这只队伍很有趣,当年从Cleveland转到Baltimore时,犹如游
子一般,GM坚称自己是生为Cleveland鬼,死为Cleveland魂。可队员
却是五湖四海搜罗来的。跟AFC Central的老牌队Steelers着重嫡系
出身是相行见绌。
Coach 评论自己的Ravens说藕的队四个player有三个是Freeagent转
来的,一多半都被人评论说没戏,藕都习惯了。就是这么一支杂牌军
竟拼凑出一只Defense可与NFL历史上最伟大的Steelers的Steel
Curtain媲美。他们已在regular season中shout out四只队伍,比
Steel Curtain只少一场,但已创了season改为16场以来的失分最少
的纪录。但他们也心知肚明的一点是当年的Steelers是拿了
Superbowl的,自己要想名流青史,不拿Superbowl是谈不上
伟大Defense的。到时候还有一个骚头皮的事情,取个什么响亮的名
字好呢?Steel Curtain一听就知是谁,与Raven沾边的好东东可没
多少。
对于Dilfer来说历史总有点戏剧性。去年他在 |
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c********h 发帖数: 191 | 7 1. Trent Dilfer的连胜15场记录终於终结。是自1950年以来No.4的连声记录。Jim
McMahon 25场,Joe Mantana 17 games, Ken Stabler 16场。
2. Steelers LB Joey Porter已经和Plaxico Burress接球次数一样多,均为2次,
而且Porter没有fumble。Porter以 114 码的interception return名列steelers No.2
pass receiver。
3. 今年五个队玩3-4defense,只有一个so far有winning records,pats。others
are steelers, atlanta, baltimore and texans.
4. QB David Carr去年在Fresno State一个赛季被sack 14 次,本赛季NFL头两场已
经被摔了 15 次。NFL一个赛季被摔的记录是 1986年的Eagles, 104次。 |
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R*s 发帖数: 2041 | 8 4并列 bison
underdog把他的队排得很高,偶倒还没有。主要是队员的喜好上很不同。
RB第一个选到LT, 偶个人认为不如后三四个。第二轮末尾能选到william
Green既是情理之中,也是难得。LT+WG还是全league最好的先发RB组合了。
替补上面有个hambrick应该也可以。WR上除了Eric Moulds以外,其它偶
认为都不solid. 后面换FA拣了steve smith在这个league是good move.
但经验告诉偶他还是不够solid. QB Trent Green 偶还是不看好,能
象去年几场发膘的情况今年应该不会多。TE Pollard 用去第五轮draft?
a little too high. 总之全队先发实力不错,是league一流,但显得不
deep, 一旦有伤病,好几个位置都困难。
6. Red Stars
其实偶还是比较满意偶的draft的,要没被underdog/alomar截胡了两小把
就更好了。前三轮EJ, EG, pepper, 第九顺位偶觉得应该知足。加上 |
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 9 bison
Round 1: Tomlinson, LaDainian
Round 2: Green, William
Round 3: Moulds, Eric
Round 4: Robinson, Koren
Round 5: Pollard, Marcus
Round 6: Green, Trent
Round 7: Hambrick, Troy
Round 8: Longwell, Ryan
Round 9: Brooks, Derrick
Round 10: Kennison, Eddie
Round 11: Williams, Roy
Round 12: Strahan, Michael
Round 13: Williams, Moe
Round 14: Patten, David
Round 15: Morton, Johnnie
Round 16: Issa, Jabari
bigbears
Round 1: Williams, Ricky
Round 2: Gannon, R |
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 10 ND_Fighter
Round 1: Tomlinson, LaDainian
Round 2: Moss, Randy
Round 3: Ward, Hines
Round 4: Robinson, Koren
Round 5: Green, Trent
Round 6: Smith, Antowain
Round 7: Baltimore
Round 8: Bettis, Jerome
Round 9: Elam, Jason
Round 10: Holcomb, Kelly
Round 11: Morton, Johnnie
Round 12: Lewis, Chad
Round 13: White, Jamel
Round 14: Walls, Wesley
Jasmines
Round 1: Williams, Ricky
Round 2: Moulds, Eric
Round 3: Green, William
Round 4: Gardner, Rod
Round 5: |
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g**********y 发帖数: 14569 | 11 tintin
Round 1: Faulk, Marshall
Round 2: Smith, Antowain
Round 3: Horn, Joe
Round 4: Bruce, Isaac
Round 5: Green, Trent
Round 6: Chambers, Chris
Round 7: Reed, Josh
Round 8: Elam, Jason
Round 9: Oakland
Round 10: Becht, Anthony
Round 11: Brunell, Mark
Round 12: Wheatley, Tyrone
Round 13: Moss, Santana
Round 14: Kennison, Eddie
FuriousTigers
Round 1: Tomlinson, LaDainian
Round 2: Manning, Peyton
Round 3: Burress, Plaxico
Round 4: Buckhalter, Correl |
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a****r 发帖数: 154 | 12 Round 5
ND_Fighter Green, Trent
Jasmines Crumpler, Alge
CalBlues Johnson, Brad
NJ_Elevator Hambrick, Troy
OhioMeatMeats Rice, Jerry
MiamiCanes Driver, Donald
NorcalPimps Brown, Troy
Saffrons Booker, Marty
STLTravelers Thomas, Anthony
GlenmontFire Zereoue, Amos
BoulderBolders Coles, Laveranues
MasterChiefs Porter, Jerry
Squirrels Conway, Curtis
Whiners Price, Peerless
steal pick: Driver. 如果是Koran Robinson |
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f*o 发帖数: 168 | 13 侥幸抽到了第一签,偶却没过分高兴,按照BFL狂抢RB的风气偶第二轮怎么也没戏
选个一流半的RB,第一个年头就是trade down,本来最中意的就是Ras土人的第八位
结果这个土人不理偶,JJ kick之 (该土人最终得到Deuce and Green,羡煞不少人)
退而求其次跟alomar的第六位换了一下,第一轮第六位选了holmes正合吾意一点不
浪费,第二轮轮到偶的时候还有Dillon, George和Barber可选,选george是看中了
他TD比较多,下一个机会是第二轮最后一位,选了Eric Moulds,偶挺满意的
接下来几个有点疑问,先是第三轮第六位选了toomer,好像早了,当时还有Horn,
Driver,偶不想第三轮选Buress和Robinson,不过在Hiliard伤号的情款下这么早选
toomer还是很有疑问的,Shockey第五轮无可厚非,不过跟toomer一队,到时替补
会比较占地方,这里有点贪,其实偶很想选brady,觉得还能等到下一轮,结果半途
被人劫胡,于是下轮只好匆忙选了trent Green也不算差(其实偶更想晚一点再选
Plummer, Ha |
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b***n 发帖数: 13455 | 14 Breeze Foo
QB Brooks, Aaron 21 Brady, Tom 15
RB McAllister, Deuce 18 Holmes, Priest 20
RB Smith, Onterrio 4 Dunn, Warrick 12
WR Holt, Torry 9 Ward, Hines 7
WR Driver, Donald 15 Jackson, Darrell 7
WR Patten, David 6 Hilliard, Ike 6
TE McMichael, Randy 9 Wycheck, Frank 2
K Carney, John 10 Gramatica, Martin 8
DEF Miami Dolphins 15 Tampa Bay Bucs 11
106 88
tintin babyvox
QB Green, Trent 17 Maddox, Tommy 13
RB Faulk, Marshall 19 Henry, Travis 17
RB Smith, Antowain 5 |
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a****r 发帖数: 154 | 15 Round 3:
Hearst: 理发师
rookie: 桥喇叭
Champ Bengals: D. Mason
bison: Westbrook
ras: Griffin
canbon: McNair
Titan: L. Coles
Maple: M. Bennett
me: Steve Smith
Stonecold: C. Garner
Fio: Eric Moulds
Canes: C. Chambers
sailor: Thomas Jones
Flying pig: Trent Green
foo: I. Bruce
tintin: C. Martin
这一轮比较显strategy. 基本上市最后一个机会摘个elite fantasy player了。 于是
想起一个问题,如果让每个队伍调个三人核心的话,你会怎么选。 象BFL这样的setting
里,我觉得最make common sense的是QB + 2RB当核心了, 当然WR + 2RBs也不错。所以 |
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f*o 发帖数: 168 | 16 Koren Robinson SEA WR topdog 4 1
Darrell Jackson SEA WR GLENMONT Fire 4 2
Laveranues Coles WAS WR Titan 4 3
T.J. Duckett ATL RB cyberdragon 4 4
Eric Moulds BUF WR foo 4 5
Brett Favre GNB QB carbon60 4 6
Eddie George DAL RB Maple 4 7
Amani Toomer NYG WR spacepower 4 8
Javon Walker GNB WR Miami Canes 4 9
Anquan Boldin ARI WR Demon of Noontide 4 10
Isaac Bruce STL WR Rick 4 11
Chris Chambers MIA WR Go Go Egirls!!! 4 12
Trent Green KAN QB TX Red Stars 4 13
Jimmy Smith JAC WR bison 4 14
Todd Heap BAL |
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a****r 发帖数: 154 | 17 早想着在第一场比赛之前攒出来,结果拖到星期六子夜。sigh
1) offense
QB里Boller有了去年的经验(BTW, boller可是拿去年第2轮加今年第1轮换来的,
这个去年今年first round就算抵了,多付出的去年2nd round算是用来买NFL
的JYZ了),今年对他的期望当然要高一些。具体的说:不需要他成为另一个
manning,但至于也要当另一个Trent Dilfer. 在Ravens陆军保持超级强大的
背景下,Boller的第一任务是不turnover, 第二任务是要能时不常的惩罚一
下敌人的1 on 1 coverage. offseason为他单请了个私人教师,下岗的巨人
主帅Fassel. 上回看某小报说,boller的training camp里老师最多,得由
Fassel指导mechanism, 跟QB教练看film, 让OC教着熟悉play book, 最后
时不常听主教练哼哼教导。 Boller是今年Ravens的最大变数。个人乐观的
认为他回在5场比赛后成为当年Dilfer级的QB。
Jamal仍然是进攻的利器,legal issue雷声大 |
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a****r 发帖数: 154 | 18 上回说到year 2K. 由于Ravens头些年的优秀draft和良好的management, 这一年
Ray Lewis, Jonathan Odgen, Jamal Lewis, Jermaine Lewis, Peter Boulware,
Jamie Sharper, Chris McAllister, Duane Starks, Jeff Mitchell都成长起来,
附以从FA里搞来的Shannon Sharpe, Rod Woodson, Sam Adams, Trent Dilfer,
居然以黑马姿态一路杀出,笑傲超级碗。成功的同时面临的最大挑战是队内大牌
球员过多, 在工资帽子年代不可能长久维持这样的队伍,怎么在未来的NFL草稿
中找到这些大牌的接班人成了中心课题。我和LD有幸从汽车城跑到Baltimore,
在inner harbor的ESPN zone里现场经历了Ravens得冠的全过程,然后又加入了
当晚的街头狂欢,不枉此行啊,在一片喜悦之中,迎来了2001年的NFL draft
2001:
round 1 (#31). Todd Heap (TE, ASU) |
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H****t 发帖数: 2542 | 19 以rookie身份玩范大喜第一年,行狗屎运,以第7名侥幸进入playoff,总分第3。
稍写几句,回顾赛季。
最满意的draft:Tiki Barber。
上赛季理发师是放炮大王,但offseason期间理发师改变了拿球姿势,遂大牛。
我党我军衷心感谢理发师。我党我军无比仇恨依赖曼宁。
最差的draft: A. Toomer
在涂抹这个八四特身上就不用多费笔墨了。
最吃亏的trade:用Lelie换来了Janikowski
被婷婷巧取豪夺。
最愚昧的drop:Vinatieri
当时以为酋长的新射手会发飙,就把V扔了,靠。
最double-win的trade: Delhomme <-> Hasselbeck
德龙频频发飙,微衷心名列第五,而我军靠着贝克最后两周发飙,最终也挤上了末班车。
最后悔的布阵:第10周,没上eagirls DEF(之前之后都是一直用的)
而是用了Giants DEF,最终以5分之差输了那周。如果上eagirls,就赢了。
最倒霉的事情:对手QB突然猛烈发飙
这样的事遇到三回:Garcia, Trent Green, Delhomme。
最激动人心的一战:第13周 |
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b****e 发帖数: 1275 | 20 listed by draft order: (any round > 6 will be counted as a 6th round pick for
next year's keeper purposes)
1. bison: mcgahee (6), leftwich (7)
2. ras: trent green (4), laveranues coles(4)
3. underdog: culpepper 2, eddie kennison 8
4. noontide: chad johnson 2, jeormy shockey 6
5. rick: Julius Jones (6), michael Clayton (FA)
6. kurt: Corey Dillon (2), Tatum Bell (10)
7. maple: Micheal Bennette (2), Joey Harrington (11)
8. microcenter: alge crumpler 6, hines ward 2
9. breeze: chris brown ( |
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R*********s 发帖数: 132 | 21 1: LaDainian Tomlinson RB
2: Carnell Williams RB
3: Reggie Wayne WR
4: Jerry Porter WR
5: Keith Bulluck LB
6: Dallas Clark TE
7: Drew Brees QB
8: Julius Peppers DL
9: Jonathan Vilma LB
10: Mewelde Moore RB
11: Brian Urlacher LB
12: Tyrone Calico WR
13: Mike Nugent K
14: Trent Dilfer QB
15: Marlin Jackson DB
16: Christian Fauria TE
17: Robert Mathis DL
First time to play IDP league, 各位范大喜大拿们多提建议,下星期还有MFL的draft. |
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R*s 发帖数: 2041 | 22 QB: Trent Green, boller,
RB: SA, Ricky, Cedric benson, Stephen Davis,
WR: coles, mason, antonio bryant, booker, jenkis,
K: Jan
TE: Eric johnson
DEF: Houston |
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F***a 发帖数: 525 | 23 Just missed: Mike Peterson, LB, Jaguars; Takeo Spikes, LB, Bills; Todd Heap
, TE, Ravens; Willie Roaf, T, Chiefs; Brian Dawkins, S, Eagles; Trent Green,
QB, Chiefs; Andre Johnson, WR, Texans; Hines Ward, WR, Steelers; Cadillac W
illiams, RB, Buccaneers; Ken Lucas, CB, Panthers. |
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d****g 发帖数: 253 | 24 QB Trent Green Chiefs (KAN) 3 8
RB Rudi Johnson Bengals (CIN) 5 43
RB Willis McGahee Bills (BUF) 8 34
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh Bengals (CIN) 5 12
WR Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals (ARI) 9 33
WR Chris Chambers Dolphins (MIA) 8 28
TE Tony Gonzalez Chiefs (KAN) 3 16
K Jeff Reed Steelers (PIT) 4 1
DEF Minnesota Vikings Vikings (MIN) 6 1
B-QB Jake Plummer Broncos (DEN) 4 6
B-RB Joseph Addai Colts (IND) 6 6
B-RB Marion Barber Cowboys (DAL) 3 1
B-RB T.J. Duckett Falcons (ATL) 5 3
B-WR Keenan McCardell Charge |
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b****e 发帖数: 1275 | 25 carbon60 (redstorm)
Pos Name Team Bye Salary
QB Trent Green Chiefs (KAN) 3 8
RB Rudi Johnson Bengals (CIN) 5 43
RB Willis McGahee Bills (BUF) 8 34
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh Bengals (CIN) 5 12
WR Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals (ARI) 9 33
WR Chris Chambers Dolphins (MIA) 8 28
TE Tony Gonzalez Chiefs (KAN) 3 16
K Jeff Reed Steelers (PIT) 4 1
DEF Minnesota Vikings Vikings (MIN) 6 1
B-QB Jake Plummer Broncos (DEN) 4 6
B-RB Joseph Addai Colts (IND) 6 6
B-RB Marion Barber Cowboys (DAL) 3 1
B-RB T.J. Duckett F |
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C******r 发帖数: 282 | 26 拍卖草稿,其乐无穷,
AI为耻,竞拍光荣,
一家之言,欢迎板砖,
废话少说,书归正传.
先对昨天因为各种原因没能参加auction draft的同学说, you are missing out.
Auction草稿比传统草稿更刺激,更有意思。俺是拿着一张cheat sheet参加的,但是
这个计划赶不上变化,cheat sheet拍了一半就不管用了。到是草稿过后可以用来评价
一下大家的表现。
(一) carbon60
s Name Team Bye Salary
QB Trent Green Chiefs (KAN) 3 8
RB Rudi Johnson Bengals (CIN) 5 43
RB Willis McGahee Bills (BUF) 8 34
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh Bengals (CIN) 5 12
WR Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals (ARI) 9 33
WR Chris Chambers Dolphins (MIA) 8 28
TE Tony Gonzalez Chiefs (KAN) 3 16
K Jeff R |
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f*****h 发帖数: 1327 | 27 做了些准备,不过上来就被打乱了.2/3轮原来看好的moss/ward/shockey全部被JH
匆忙弄了两个老弱WR.后面K/DEF选得也有问题,有点可惜了拿到手里的好keeper
QB Trent Green KAN 192.00 - 4
Matt Leinart ARI 0.00 - 11
RB Ronnie Brown MIA 127.00 - keeper
Ryan Moats PHI 51.00 - 6
Vernand Morency HOU 51.00 7
Shaun Alexander SEA 1
WR Roddy White ATL 9
Doug Gabriel OAK 8
T.J. Houshmandzadeh KEEPER
Plaxico Burress NYG 2
Donald Driver GNB 3
TE L.J. Smith PHI 5
K Jason Elam DEN 12
Def/ST Minnesota Vik |
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m*********r 发帖数: 4692 | 28 BUZZ BUILDING FOR EDWARDS
Multiple league insiders are talking about Stanford quarterback Trent Ed
wards, who could challenge Michigan State quarterback Drew Stanton to be
the third signal-called whose name is called out on draft day.
Though it's hard to sift through the smoke this time of year, some teams
privately claim that Edwards won't make it to round two.
At least one offensive coordinator, we're told, prefers Edwards to Brady
Quinn.
The problem is that Edwards, like Jay Cutler a year bef |
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m*********r 发帖数: 4692 | 29 Quarterbacks
Brady Quinn - Carson Palmer
JaMarcus Russell - Daunte Culpepper
Trent Edwards - Marc Bulger
Drew Stanton - Mark Brunell
John Beck - Drew Brees
Kevin Kolb - J.P. Losman
Troy Smith - Rex Grossman
Chris Leak - Koy Detmer |
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m*********r 发帖数: 4692 | 30 Quarterbacks
Brady Quinn - David Carr
JaMarcus Russell - Daunte Culpepper
Trent Edwards - Marc Bulger
Drew Stanton - Mark Brunell
John Beck - Drew Brees
Kevin Kolb - J.P. Losman
Troy Smith - Rex Grossman
Chris Leak - Koy Detmer
Running Backs
Adrian Peterson - Larry Johnson
Marshawn Lynch - Laurence Maroney
Antonio Pittman - Vernand Morency
Kenny Irons - Cadillac Williams
Lorenzo Booker - Warrick Dunn
Michael Bush - Jamal Lewis
Tony Hunt - Jamal Lewis
Chris Henry - Jamal Lewis
Brian Leonard - Gre |
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t****g 发帖数: 553 | 31 在伪中心的领导下,广大扇子的鼓动下,黑话更新工作正式展开。
先把老何整理的人物篇updated一个。
【人名类】QB + 教练
== QB ==
大白菜 Peyton Manning
长鼻子 Tom Brady
发福(发哥/叔) Brett Favre
怕摸 Carson Palmer
奶波 Donovan McNabb
猪不理 Drew Brees
保洁 Marc Bulger
哈骚白 Matt Hasselbeck
德龙 Delhomme
胡椒 Culpepper
木瓜 Steve McNair
校花(笑话)Kurt Warner
圈绿 Trent Green
肉末 Tony Romo
小羊 Vince Young
小白菜 Eli Manning
小河 Philip Rivers
小潘 Chad Pennington
小砍 Cutler
小昆 Brady Quinn
毛人 Rex Grossman
螺丝人 J.P. Losman
鲁智僧 JaMarcus Russell
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E**y 发帖数: 1018 | 32 开了一个星期的会,选修开始的时候正在天上等着降落。所以设定了自动选择。
QB Kurt Warner ARI
Donovan McNabb PHI
Trent Edwards BUF
RB Steven Jackson STL
Jerome Harrison CLE
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones DAL
WR Joey Galloway NWE
Mark Clayton BAL
Steve Smith NYG
Davone Bess MIA
TE Chris Cooley WAS
Def/ST New York Giants NYG
Pittsburgh Steelers
不知道电脑为啥选了两个防守却没有踢球的。另外wr太滥了,根本没戏。warner和耐波
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s*****a 发帖数: 3693 | 33 白送把关很严啊。
其实校花最应该感谢的人是史称NFL第一脏人的Rodney Harrison,要不是他
给Trent Green废了,校花还不知道要再等几年才能上岗呢。 |
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B*****e 发帖数: 9375 | 34 谢谢你这个发蜜说了一句大实话:“数据不是完全可比的",
很多发蜜现在津津乐道的, 可不就是他这些含辛茹苦积累起来的个人数据么?
他们可没提他优秀的play off record, 他数次紧要关头力挽狂澜, 他的几个冠军奖杯 ...
这些才是最重要的, 才是“完全可比”的数据 -- 因为根本拿不出手嘛!
不要和我说Trent Dilfer也拿过超级碗 -- 现在可没有任何人说要把他送进HOF,
甚至把他放在选票上。
发蜜说的是发叔要进HOF, 而且是非得第一年就要进, 不然就是冤枉。
那我就举了一个Troy Aikman的例子: 他和发叔是同一个位置,
同一个时代(有10年的共同舞台),
而且明显两人都有对方所缺少的东西,
但事实就是Troy Aikman是第一年就进去了,发叔呢?
Well, maybe he will, may he will not,
但是有谁说他能肯定发叔就肯定会第一年进,well ... NB. |
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h***o 发帖数: 2321 | 35 It does not take long to find the list and estmate the cost.
It takes quite a few years to develop a Qb, so let's look at picks
between 1991 and 2005
Here is what you would get:
HOF level: Payton Manning
probowl level: Drew Bledsoe, Steve McNair, Michael Vick, Carson Palmer, Eli
Manning
so it is about 40% chance, I would not want to gamble with that rate, would
you?
91
Dan McGwire
Todd Marinovich
92
David Klingler
Tommy Maddox
93
Drew Bledsoe
Rick Mirer
94
Heath Shuler
Trent Dilfer
95
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H****t 发帖数: 2542 | 36 Bills有名校情结。
除了这哥们是哈佛之外,Trent Edwards是Stanford的。以前那个主教练是Yale的。 |
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H****t 发帖数: 2542 | 37 臂力不行。只能玩小叮当。不过Bills也是烂队。走了也好,说不定在某处能
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 38 上场还是首发,怎么就被放了,连替补的机会都没有。 Bills 这不是自己打自己嘴巴吗。都
首发3年了。 |
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m******c 发帖数: 2248 | 39 week10不幸bench了Bowe,目前总分本队还落后5分,仅剩DL Trent Cole。
对手还有kicker David Aker和DB LaRon Landry。
本league IDP Scoring Settings如下:
Tackle Solo 1
Tackle Assist 1
Sack 5
Interception 5
Fumble Force 5
Fumble Recovery 5
Defensive Touchdown 10
Safety 5
Pass Defended 1
Block Kick 5
Kicker Scoring Settings如下
Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards -3 0
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards -3 0
Fiel... 阅读全帖 |
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b**j 发帖数: 20742 | 40 eli那个太侥幸,而且主要也是defense好。trent dilfer也拿了superbowl呢,也没见
多牛 |
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c******5 发帖数: 1740 | 41 几点感想:
1. 没想到Aaron居然排第一
2. 为什么现役的QB的得分普遍比退役的高?连传奇人物Joe Montana 和 Dan Marino也
不过排在 #9 和 #16。
3. Ben 居然能排在 #8, 一直以为Ben只是一个clutch 的 good QB,而还没到 elite
QB的地步。
4. Carson Palmer 居然能排在 Brett Favre 的前面, 太不可思议了
Rank Quarterback Rating
1 Aaron Rodgers 98.4
2 Philip Rivers 97.2
3 Steve Young 96.8
4 Tony Romo 95.5
5 Tom Brady 95.2
6 Peyton Manning 94.9
7 Kurt Warner 93.7
8 Ben Roethlisberger 92.5
9 Joe Montana 92.3
10 Drew Br... 阅读全帖 |
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k******a 发帖数: 2436 | 42 遥远历史上就不说了,2003 Brad Johnson/2001 Trent Dilfer |
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B*****e 发帖数: 9375 | 43 只有12年的历史, 已经用了10个不同的Openning Day QBs:
Ty Detmer,
Tim Couch,
Kelly Holcomb,
Jeff Garcia,
Trent Dilfer,
Charlie Frye,
Derek Anderson,
Brady Quinn,
Jake Delhomme,
Colt McCoy
So be careful the next time you feel the urge to trash your QB.
A good one is HARD to find. |
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G*******s 发帖数: 10605 | 44 不是阿,Mike and Mike里面好像是Trent Dilfer说他觉得龙哥现在打出来的水平是历史
最高水平了 |
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b********n 发帖数: 4256 | 46 但也有例外,还不少。
01年乌鸦拿SB,QB是Trent Dilfer, Dilfer那个烂...
9091年NYG拿SB,是替补 QB Jeff Hostetler... |
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p****s 发帖数: 3153 | 47 我也这么认为,乌鸦估计能夺冠with him or in spite of him, 就跟trent dilfer一样 |
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b******d 发帖数: 9694 | 48 如果乌鸦有个像样的QB的话John Harbaugh至少已经有1-2枚金戒指了。很可惜这样好的
一个球队就基本上被Flacco给废了, 该队的防守因为主力球员年事已高估计巅峰状态
已过, 接下来几年该队的防守在整个联盟也就是出于中上游的水平吧!
同样命苦的还有就是茄子队。 我要是两队老板早把Flacco以及Sanchez之流的给砍掉了。
过去十多年年的季后赛一而再再而三的证明不管你队的防守有多NB, 你队的QB在关键
时刻一定要有大杀器能够挺身而出。
The only 2 exceptions I could come up with since I started watching football
are Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer. |
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a********r 发帖数: 626 | 49 其实不明显,看看实际情况 : (KD=QB hits plus sacks)
KD/RTP值越小越受保护,鼻子哥白菜兄猪不理都不是top 5,最受保护的是我们的哈佛兄
Roughing the Passer Penalties / Quarterback Knockdowns, 2009-Week 3 2011
Quarterback KD RTP penalties KD/RTP
David Garrard 210 0 INF
Joe Flacco 180 1 180
Tony Romo 132 1 132
Josh Freeman 124 1 124
Matt Schaub 184 2 92
Matt Hasselbeck 138 2 69
Brett Favre 148 3 49.3
Alex Smith 133 3 44.3
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r****e 发帖数: 229 | 50 I think it's ok.
Frank Tripucka, who used to wear no.18 (btw he's in his 80s now) OKed this,
he said in an interview before.
This is pretty rare in NFL, but it DID happen before. Jerry Rice, Trent
Dilfer both wore retired jerseys with permissions from the players who had
the number before. |
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