s*******n 发帖数: 347 | 1 BOSTON, MA -- (Marketwire) -- 07/11/12 -- Shareholder Rights Law Firm Gilman
Law LLP announces that another class action lawsuit has been commenced in
the District Court for the Southern District of New York against Credit
Suisse on Behalf of Investors in TVIX Exchange Traded Notes (TVIX ETN) (NYSE
Arca: TVIX). Investors who purchased or otherwise acquired shares in TVIX
between November 30, 2010 through and including March 22, 2012 (Class Period
), may have a claim to recover their losses in TV... 阅读全帖 |
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M*****8 发帖数: 17722 | 2 空军目标:TVIX。
空军手段:卖空股票 (没有 Option 可做)
空军目的:和贪婪沽空的 MM 们抢钱。
对手可能反应:故意拉高挤空后再次沽空独享下跌暴利。
最新2011年10月19日对 TVIX 分析和对策如下:
2011年10月19日的最新数据:
TVIX, 20111019, 63.2000, -7.3549, -11.6,
这意味 TVIX 短期将会到比 63.20 还低 7.35 的未来价。
先推算 TVIX 短期下跌的谷底价的理论极限:
根据不久前的谷底极限,即 26.5%
26.5 + 11.6 = 38.1%
63.2 X (1-0.381) = 39.12
这 39.12 是理论的谷底极限,不代表一定会跌到。
现在推算 TVIX 的短期高峰极限:
根据不久前的高峰价极限,即 -21.3%
21.3 - 11.6 = 9.7%
63.2 X 1.097 = 69.33
这 69.33 是 TVIX 的未来短期高峰极限。
所以 TVIX 短期的上下,在 69.33 和 39.12 之间。
由于这是理论极限,波动幅度往往是小于这两个限度。
如果万一 TVI... 阅读全帖 |
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X*****s 发帖数: 2767 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 MoneyFriends 俱乐部 】
发信人: XXLBass (大巴司机), 信区: MoneyFriends
标 题: Buzz on the Street: The TVIX Shuffle! zt
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 23 23:36:57 2012, 美东)
http://www.minyanville.com/business-news/editors-pick/articles/
Minyan Mailbag: What's Going on With TVIX?
Adam Warner
Hi Minyanville Professors,
Can somebody explain what is happening with the TVIX?
You would think it would be up big time?
Minyan K
Minyan K,
Quite the plunge in TVIX today, but frankly, it should surprise no one that
this... 阅读全帖 |
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k****h 发帖数: 944 | 4 You are right. The difference between UVXY and TVIX was generated earlier
this week, because TVIX dropped much less than its indicative value (or
compared to UVXY) in the past three days. So if you bought TVIX some time
before this week, the return should be the same as buying UVXY. But if you
bought TVIX this Tuesday or Wednesday, your TVIX was overestimated and thus,
it has to underperform to make up the gap.
Today, the indicative value of TVIX and UVXY has increased by more than 25%
(from 4.6... 阅读全帖 |
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t******y 发帖数: 1942 | 5 发信人: tooearly (郎教授不炒股), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: gcf108你的TVIX 还捏在手里呢?够沉的住气的呀!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 3 11:34:36 2012, 美东)
我持有TVIX只做短趋势,趋势完了,就应该立刻获利了结。转我一个回帖吧。
普通个人和Credit Suisse在~~完全不公平~~的条件下~~长期~~对赌,一定赔
死。
想捂TVIX/UVXY的,与其捐钱给金融吸血鬼,还不如去捐钱给福利院。
发信人: tooearly (郎教授不炒股), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 4.95入的tvix怎么办?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 3 11:27:59 2012, 美东)
Cut.
It's not a stock. You are directly gambling with Credit Suisse and paying
money to them. The treaty is unfair. See the chart of ^TVIX-IV and how it
declin... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********s 发帖数: 17839 | 6 February 23, 2012, 1:29 P.M. ET
By Brendan Conway
Investors who follow the gaggle of complex leveraged products tied to the
CBOE Volatility Index know that a popular one backed by Credit Suisse (CS)
stopped issuing new shares this week after a trading surge triggered the
investment bank’s “internal limits.” All signs suggest that running and
hedging this corner of the burgeoning market for volatility trading vehicles
simply got to be a bigger task than CS originally envisioned.
Thursday, there’s... 阅读全帖 |
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q****g 发帖数: 761 | 7 1. 增发不增发 = Piaji?
Feb 21 不增发 -> Tvix NAV Down -> Tvix trading at huge premium -> Tvix Piaji
when Vix up today (so 不增发 = Tvix Piaji)
Mar 23 增发 -> ???
So 增发或者不增发 = Piaji?
2. Vix和Tvix NAV(^Tvix-IV)的关系是什么?
请大牛来指路 |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 8 双倍VIX的ETF是TVIX?
随着下周美股继续北伐?
TVIX还有下跌?
TVIX何处是底?
请大牛大熊大师指教一二?
TVIX总不能清零吧?
TVIX也该弹跳一下了吧?
疑问观察中? |
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a***s 发帖数: 5417 | 9 一天跌了30%。
前几天明明vix不涨,tvix的nav也在降,可是tvix却从14升到15,
就应该想到有猫腻啊。完全是庄家在误导贪婪的散户。诱到足够多了,
庄家的空仓也建完了,就选择在这种市场大跌日来让tvix往价值方向
回归。
就算昨天赌对市场方向的,而买入tvix的,今天也输光了。
这个庄太黑了。 credit suisse吧?
散户还是别碰tvix. 尤其是青蛙。 |
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q****g 发帖数: 761 | 10 Premium一路走高是因为Tvix NAV这里两周一直狂跌吧?Premium = (Tvix - Tvix NAV)
/Tvix NAV
那Tvix NAV反映Vix吗?这两周Vix可没怎么跌,为什么NAV狂跌? |
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t******y 发帖数: 6206 | 11 TVIX只做短趋势,趋势完了,就应该立刻获利了结。转我一个回帖吧。
普通个人和Credit Suisse在~~完全不公平~~的条件下~~长期~~对赌,一定赔
死。
想捂TVIX/UVXY的,与其捐钱给金融吸血鬼,还不如去捐钱给福利院。
发信人: tooearly (郎教授不炒股), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 4.95入的tvix怎么办?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 3 11:27:59 2012, 美东)
Cut.
It's not a stock. You are directly gambling with Credit Suisse and paying
money to them. The treaty is unfair. See the chart of ^TVIX-IV and how it
declined.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q;_ylt=AnP_tUlxOgajH9Q7nkFA1dDxVax_;_y
You may hold TVIX/UVXY it for several days, only i... 阅读全帖 |
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M*****8 发帖数: 17722 | 12 【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: MB80528 (肥猫(Contrarian)[食MM而肥]), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 再给熊熊空军们一个新战场,新战机 --- TVIX
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 21 11:20:18 2011, 美东)
希望你有从 TVIX 赚到大钱。
如果根据分析,再用 UpTrend Line,
昨天应该能在 $68+ 左右卖空.
TVIX 从昨天的高峰 $69 跌倒 今天的 $56+,
也有 $10 到 $11+ 的跌幅可以抓到。
所以算是比较好的机会.
其实我昨天分析时就知道 TVIX 有钱途,
否则也不会把它特别公布的.
那些连这么简单容易的预测和详细解释的分析,
都不能利用的,我看还是别炒股了。
至于那些说我有迫害狂,指出墙街的诡计就不行么?
你们难道崇洋媚外极度奴性到被墙街洗劫都是荣幸?
也难怪有国女会崇拜洋垃圾,以倒贴洋垃圾嫖客为荣幸。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Stock/33923101_3.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/a... 阅读全帖 |
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i*******e 发帖数: 1904 | 13 1st, the premium on TVIX is huge now.
So if you are on the "squeeze" side, then you should long TVIX.
If you bet CS will resume the supply of TVIX shortly, then you should short
TVIX. |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 14 早盘TVIX跌破十六?
等了一会儿TVIX又回升上涨?
自己觉得周五许多盈利盘要出场降低美股指数?
就斗胆四次跳进TVIX陷阱?
第一次一千股十六点一七?
第二次一千股十六点零八?
盈利出场两千股十六点四七?
第三次五千股十六点九一?
第四次五千股十六点八三?
盈利出场一万股十七点零一?
汇报完毕?
真刺激?
以后还是不要赌博TVIX为好?
风险太大?
大起大落?
是不? |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 15 其实花街大户早就在作多TVIX来HEDGE多仓位置了?
周五的TVIX就有大涨的趋势和意图?
下周也许有一天来一个道指大跌两百点?
TVIX一天疯涨百分之十以上?
自己正在胡思乱想痴心妄想TVIX?
哈哈哈?
是不? |
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Q*W 发帖数: 1 | 16 Heartsme
Here it's info about Uvxy,vxx,tvix and Vix ...hope it helps.
I have coped some commons from yahoo message boards about
the topic of "UVXY and VXX Explained"
There is so much confusion on regarding UVXY and VXX, I thought I would set
the record straight and try to keep it simple.
First of all, the VIX Spot Price is an index that measures implied market
volatility based upon the activity of put/call options. The higher the VIX,
the more implied market volatility, the lower the VIX, the le... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****n 发帖数: 251 | 17 买TVIX的注意了
“The long term expected value of your ETNs is zero. If you hold your ETNs
as a long term investment, it is likely that you will lose all or a
substantial portion of your investment.”
This is the situation in a nutshell and helps to explain why TVIX is down
more than 80% since its launch at the end of November 2010 – in spite of a
meteoric 7x rise from July to October of last year. Will TVIX go to zero? No
. As is the case with a number of other VIX ETPs, should TVIX continue to
decline... 阅读全帖 |
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d********1 发帖数: 3828 | 18 首先要知道vix是什么。vix是一个根据spy near the money的put和call价格计算出来
的一个指数。这个指数反映出市场的“恐慌”程度。
vix无法直接交易,要借助于vxx,tvix这样的指数。vxx是利用vix futures进行交易,
具体就是在当月和下月的contract之间滚动,每天把一部分当月的vix future
contract卖了换成下月的contract。
tvix类似是vxx的双倍指数。也就是说vxx变动1%,tvix可能变动2%。这个只是近似,它
们之间因为具体操作的差别并不严格遵照这个关系。
uvxy大致就是tvix的反指吧。 |
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a*********2 发帖数: 932 | 20
我用的是wells fargo,不能买tvix之类的security
你是用那个broker 买tvix的呀?
觉得tvix差不多到底了,再坚持一下啦~ |
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i*******e 发帖数: 1904 | 21 Guys, If we have some pullback today, then it might be a good time point to
load some TVIX.
When TVIX went up this much in one day, it will highly likely continue up in
the next day. Not to mention the suspicious EU finance minister meeting
tomorrow.
I may initiate some pilot position today when the short squeezing on TVIX is done. |
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i******g 发帖数: 1444 | 22 wiki啊。。
简单的说就是市场恐慌指数,跟大盘有点关系但是不特别紧密,就算大盘在涨,大家预
期最终是跌,那么TVIX就要涨,如果大盘小跌,大家认为那是良性调整,之后继续北上
TVIX就要跌。。。当然大盘跌,大家预期之后还要一路狂跌,TVIX肯定涨
大牛来看看,我理解得对不对 |
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S*******s 发帖数: 13043 | 23 After Tuesday’s regular trading session, Credit Suisse (CS) announced in a
brief press release that it has “temporarily suspended further issuances of
the VelocityShares Daily 2x VIX Short-Term ETNs (TVIX) due to internal
limits on the size of the ETNs.” The company added that “this suspension
does not affect the Early Redemption rights of noteholders as described in
the pricing supplement. Other ETNs issued by Credit Suisse are not affected
by this suspension.”
The announcement by Credit Suisse... 阅读全帖 |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 24 有没有可能?
完全有戏啊?
大户散户已经投机赌博建仓待机TVIX很长时间了?
TVIX总要风光一下子吧?
自己有三千股小仓位?
所以就比较关注TVIX?
请VIX专门家说说?
谢谢? |
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S****X 发帖数: 2301 | 25 TVIX本来是VIX指数杠杆,但自从CS宣布停止发行新share之后,TVIX就变成了一个
closed fund, 于是价格更取决与供求关系而非价值。这是由VIX指数的特殊性决定的,
市场的恐慌与波动是市场的一部分,低位VIX指数必定某天会冲高,只是时间问题。于
是,手持TVIX来对冲的机构并无任何买出理由。不平衡的供求关系导致premium一路走
高。今天市场rumor, CS又准备发新share了,于是气球炸了。
是么?其实,话说这个主力很仁慈了。出利空后走45度向下,给了跑路机会。木有来个
30+的gap down |
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n*******d 发帖数: 115 | 26 在股市恐慌前,持tvix比直接short股票赚得多吧?而且不会输超过100%,现在tvix相
对低位,买入tvix,看空大盘 |
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k****h 发帖数: 944 | 27 In fact, if you have TVIX and believe in a bearish market, you should dump
TVIX and buy back UVXY, as there is a still a 10% return needed to be mad
up for TVIX. |
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i******g 发帖数: 1444 | 28 ft....买一万股TVIX当然买不了一万股UVXY。。。
你1万三的本钱,IB来说,1万股TVIX买卖的手续费就是100刀。你买一万三价值的UVXY
手续费也就4块钱。
TVIX |
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B**********r 发帖数: 7517 | 29 不要买UVXY。它是2x,有振荡损耗。
我喜欢空TVIX,有延时损耗+振荡损耗。
然后常常用VXX来Cover我的TVIX空。虽然VXX也有延时损耗,与TVIX抵消,但至少还有
振荡损耗获益。
当然这些好处要长期才体现出来。一般人都不知道。 |
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h****a 发帖数: 39 | 30 康南之前说过
uvxy和tvix都有震荡与时间损耗
而vxx的的震荡损耗较之uvxy与tvix的要少
所以空头做uvxy和tvix比较好
而如果你做多头时双倍的vxx比较好 |
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r***l 发帖数: 9084 | 31 我觉的股版讨论tvix不是一个好事情, 推荐别人买tvix更不是一个聪明的主意。
真如果炒股NB,交易spy一样提前退休,如果没那个本事,买tvix只能是以最快速度输
光,当然要是只买个5%仓位就无所谓了,只是最好说明仓位,否则跟的人全仓跟了,这
后果就严重了。 |
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T*R 发帖数: 36302 | 32 这两个目前下跌的空间都有限。如果大盘短期有大的回调,两个收益都很可观。
感觉区别在于万一大盘走相反方向,TVIX不会受太大影响,而且随着时间延长,向上的
动力比较大,毕竟小牛们喝熊血的时候也心虚。
TZA如果判断错了方向,就会更惨点。当然优点是如果大盘开始慢慢地往下走而不是急
速下跌时,TZA收益会更大。
我现在想搞点TVIX+SDS或是TVIX+APPL来HEDGE一下,不知道这样会不会有收益。 |
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w*******o 发帖数: 6125 | 33 今天$VIX -7.4%,但TVIX只有-2.9%, 咋回事?
虎子在不断大单买入TVIX托住? |
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s****a 发帖数: 247 | 34 TVIX 不能烧,至少IB不可以
求short tvix的方法或工具。 |
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s******t 发帖数: 12883 | 35 高风险啊。 还不如跟unlinc了呢。
btw, 我没有跟unlinc, 因为我动作太慢跟不上他的快节奏, 而且我对他
选的股也没有任何了解。
但是我觉得青蛙买tvix, 还不如盲跟unlinc, 至少他的技术可以做一定的保证。
不至于大亏。
看看tvix, 从december 1 到今天, 一路跌, 已经跌去60%了。
这种工具就是绞肉机, 绞的是自己的肉。 |
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y******i 发帖数: 2584 | 36 XIV 16,或者17才算是底,现在18.5,VXX TVIX都还有10%的向下空间。
现在买VXX TVIX就是赌呗。 |
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i*******e 发帖数: 1904 | 37 VIX 3月future暴涨啊,所以TVIX也涨啊。
想想3月20号会怎么样?希腊default,所以三月future不涨才怪呢。
请记住:下下月的VIX future对TVIX定价的影响远比下个月的要大。所以这是一个时间
点上的perfect match。 |
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i*******e 发帖数: 1904 | 38 If SPX = 1100, then TVIX may get there. My target, as I said before, is $30
for TVIX and $35 for VXX. |
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w****l 发帖数: 6122 | 39 本质上是做空的工具,没有人会永远的做空,总会有cover的时候
TVIX在市场连续下跌的时候,会翻倍,但是你必须赌对市场连续下跌,
所以拿TVIX多久,就是看你愿意怎么赌了, |
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c********m 发帖数: 571 | 40 what needed for trading TVIX?
Seems I couldn't place order for TVIX in Merrill Edge acount. |
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g*****0 发帖数: 887 | 41 只留下了ANR 均价21.00
TVIX 均价 14.00.
各一半仓位。 逻辑是,NG 价格还是回升,煤炭天然气暑期表现不错。ANR 资源很丰富
。前期暴涨,他没有涨。所以如果大盘继续北上,煤炭应该能够补涨。风险很小。
反之,如果大盘暴跌。TVIX 会暴涨。目标至少到30. |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 42 美股还是北伐?
双倍VIX的ETF的TVIX可能还要继续下调?
不过TVIX这个交易工具有点意思?
每天交易量也不错?
大起大落?
请大牛大熊大师指教一二?
不甚感激? |
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d*****n 发帖数: 365 | 43 TVIX可以一个月从100跌到17,假如你做空一个月,你说赚不赚?
反过来要是市场要下跌,TVIX或许也可以一个月从17涨到100,你要是long它,你说赚
不赚? |
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w******t 发帖数: 1929 | 44 搂主能解释一下么, 到底什么意思? TVIX stop trading? 现在的TVIX 往上往下?
a
of
affected
see
of |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 45 没有?还持有三千股TVIX? 顶部十七有几十万股要卖?看来今天TVIX过不了十七?谢谢
提问?没预测就没包子啦?哈哈哈? |
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j****z 发帖数: 168 | 46
是不是TVIX风险太大一点啦?come on, you got 3000 shares and not sure about
the risk?
Don't know about your portfolio. I would keep TVIX under 10%. |
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q********u 发帖数: 15519 | 47 谢谢您的分享高论?TVIX是个风险很高的赌博工具?不过随着美股疯狂过渡上涨?TVIX
应该有点钱途?感激不尽?您是VIX的大家大师?向您好好学习致敬?
and
them |
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i*******e 发帖数: 1904 | 48 If this correction last more than one week, then TVIX and VXX could catch up quickly
with VIX.
TVIX and VXX are still cheap to chase with. |
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p****k 发帖数: 722 | 50 为嘛UVXY比TVIX差那么远?上星期还有人推荐UVXY over TVIX.
大牛说说 |
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