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b*****d
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多维新闻】乌克兰政府军15日在克拉马托尔斯克发起一场针对亲俄武装人员的特别行动
,负责领导特别行动的乌克兰将领警告称,拒绝放下武器的亲俄武装分子,将面临被歼
灭。
综合媒体4月15日报道,乌克兰国家安全部门(Ukrainian Security Service,SBU)第
一副主管克鲁托夫(Vasily Krutov)将军表示,亲俄武装分子必须得到警告,如果他
们不放下武器,那么将遭到歼灭。
克鲁托夫补充说,武装分子受到了数百名俄罗斯士兵的支援,这些士兵来自俄罗斯联邦
武装力量总参谋情报署(Main Intelligence Directorate)。
对此,俄罗斯总统新闻秘书佩斯科夫(Dmitry Peskov)15日表示,针对俄罗斯在乌克
兰东部集结军队的指控非常“荒谬”,俄罗斯并没有在这些地区驻军。
由克鲁托夫领导的乌克兰政府军于15日夜展开“特别行动”,对东部地区城镇斯拉扬斯
克(Slavyansk)的亲俄武装分子进行扫荡,双方在附近的克拉马托尔斯克(
Kramatorsk)机场爆发冲突。乌克兰临时政府稍后宣布已经夺回这处由亲俄武装分子占
据的小型机场。
y******n
发帖数: 8667
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来自主题: Military版 - 无可兰内战正式开打
http://time.com/64518/ukraine-military-advance-russia-kramators
Military vehicles flying Russian flags have been seen in eastern Ukraine.
They appear to have defected from the Ukrainian army.
One soldier said he was a part of the 25th brigade of Ukraine’s airborne
forces and that they have switched to the side of the pro-Russian forces.
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰这事怎么收场?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38248.htm
I'm Confused, Can Anyone Help Me?
By Neil Clark
April 16, 2014 "ICH" - "RT" - I'm confused. A few weeks ago we were told in
the West that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine was a very
good thing. These people, we were told by our political leaders and elite
media commentators, were 'pro-democracy protestors'.
The US government warned the Ukrainian authorities against using force
against these 'pro-democracy protestors' even... 阅读全帖
g**1
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http://rt.com/news/155096-ukrainian-troops-satellite-images/
‘Tanks, APCs, 15,000 troops’: Satellite images show Kiev forces build-up
near Slavyansk
A Russian Defense Ministry source commenting on the photos to RIA Novosti
said that they show only a fraction of the force encircling the city.
According to the source, 160 tanks, 230 APCs and BMDs, and at least 150
artillery and rocket systems, including “Grad” and “Smerch” multiple
rocket launchers, have been deployed to the area. A total of 15,00... 阅读全帖
k*******r
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Friday evening, a pro-Ukrainian mob attacked a camp where the pro-Russian
supporters had pitched tents, forcing them to flee to a nearby government
building, a witness said. The mob then threw gasoline bombs into the
building. Police said 31 people were killed when they choked on smoke or
jumped out of windows.
普京大帝哑巴了。国内的媒体居然报道亲俄民众自己在楼上扔燃烧瓶扔到一楼自己把自
己烧死。真鸡巴有才。
w********g
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看看反方的言论:
Chaos in Eastern Ukraine as Separatists Vote
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/12/world/europe/ukraine-referend
But outside the provincial capitals, the voting took place in such a state
of raw chaos that in one town a man was shot to death by pro-Ukrainian
paramilitaries on a sidewalk outside a polling station.
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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标 题: William Blum 美国致命的输出:民主。 老将怎么看?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 15 17:04:34 2014, 美东)
America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy
Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated
summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945,
the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them
democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries;
bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and
biological weapons; and a... 阅读全帖
b********n
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America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy
Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated
summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945,
the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them
democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries;
bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and
biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.
In many cases Britain has been a collaborat... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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俺这的小白,才初中就被家长带着去州政府或DC lobby去了,平时在家听家长侃政治的
就更多了。
现在世界上正在发生什么有深远影响的大事,这篇亚洲时报说的不错。这种变化,应该
是老中和abc们的机会,就看能不能抓住了。
China pivot fuels Eurasian century
By Pepe Escobar
A specter is haunting Washington, an unnerving vision of a Sino-Russian
alliance wedded to an expansive symbiosis of trade and commerce across much
of the Eurasian land mass - at the expense of the United States.
And no wonder Washington is anxious. That alliance is already a done deal in
a variety of ways: through the BRICS group of eme... 阅读全帖
r*****m
发帖数: 3619
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Anti-government protesters in Slavyansk have downed a Ukrainian forces
helicopter in the south-east of Slavyansk in the Donetsk region.
看过这样的 protesters 吗?看过这样的写法吗?
中宣部的饭桶学着点啊
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - All gloves are off
美帝死了些CIA/FBI agents
CIA, FBI agents dying for illegal junta in Ukraine
Read more
At least 650 servicemen were killed, wounded or taken prisoner in the past
ten 10 days.
"There are 70 foreigners among them and of those 13 agents of the US Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were
killed and 12 others were wounded.
The Mayor also said that the self-defense forces afflicted heavy losses on
Right Sector/Ukrainian army forces and also completely wiped out the ju... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - post-imperialist 这个词用的好
Return of the living (neo-con) dead
http://atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-030614.html
Amid much hysteria, the notion has been widely peddled in the United States
that President Obama's "new" foreign policy doctrine, announced last week at
West Point, rejects neo-cons and neo-liberals and is, essentially, post-
imperialist and a demonstration of realpolitik.
Not so fast. Although stepping back from the excesses of the Cheney regime -
as in bombing whole nations into "democracy" - the "desire to l... 阅读全帖
g**1
发帖数: 10330
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来自主题: Military版 - 美军正式派兵乌克兰ZT
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140605/DEFREG02/306050041/
老毛子可以动手了。
US Sending Advisers, Military Gear to Ukraine
A small team of American military advisers will soon head to Ukraine to
assess that embattled nation’s “mid- and long-term needs for defense
reform,” a Pentagon official said Thursday.
Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lainez said senior U.S. defense officials met
with senior Ukrainian officials earlier this week to discuss “ways our
countries could strengthen our long-term defense c... 阅读全帖
n*******r
发帖数: 2010
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From a Taiwanese:
Who is really destabilizing South China Sea and Asian Continent?
President Obama plus EU created chaotic Middle East and made military
conflict in the Middle East possible, now the Ukrainian crisis. It seems to
me that the President Obama and US defense secretary Mr. Chuck Hagel are
going to create a third crisis in Asian continent.
The question is if President Obama and Mr. Hagel has encouraged Vietnam and
Philippine to start confrontation with China for the purpose of contain... 阅读全帖
g**1
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰IL-76被击落,运有30伞兵ZT
Military jet downed by anti-Kiev forces in Lugansk - Ukraine's defense
ministry
Anti-Kiev forces took down a Ukrainian military Il-76 jet as it was landing
in Lugansk, the country’s Defense Ministry said. It did not provide details
on casualties.
TSN.ua news website earlier reported that around 30 paratroopers were killed
as self-defense forces hit the jet with a rocket.
The plane was transporting rotating military personnel and had “troops,
machinery, equipment and food,” the ministry said in a... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-russian-troops-full-combat
utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider%
2Fpolitics+%28Business+Insider+-+Politix%29
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his troops in central Russia to be
on "full combat alert" Saturday as a new wave of attacks by rebels
supportive of his regime placed pressure on a ceasefire agreement in Ukraine
. According to Agence France-Presse, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu told
Russian news agencies t... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 呕总同又练 "棒子舞" 了
呕总同又练 "棒子舞" 了
误课烂老将舞刀动枪就是正义执法, 饿骡死敢动口就是违法!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-ukraine-crisis-usa
U.S. imposes toughest sanctions yet on Russia over Ukraine
BY ANNA YUKHANANOV AND STEVE HOLLAND
WASHINGTON Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:16pm EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced the most wide
-ranging sanctions yet on the Russian economy, targeting key institutions
including Gazprombank and Rosneft Oil Co, as well as other energy and
defense companies.
Washington has ste... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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呕总同又练 "棒子舞" 了
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-ukraine-crisis-usa
U.S. imposes toughest sanctions yet on Russia over Ukraine
BY ANNA YUKHANANOV AND STEVE HOLLAND
WASHINGTON Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:16pm EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced the most wide
-ranging sanctions yet on the Russian economy, targeting key institutions
including Gazprombank and Rosneft Oil Co, as well as other energy and
defense companies.
Washington has steadily escalated its financial... 阅读全帖
w*********r
发帖数: 42116
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http://abc7chicago.com/news/malaysia-airlines-confirms-it-lost-
Gerashenko said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of
10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk
launcher. A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near
the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier Thursday.
坠毁的地点在哪里?
M*****n
发帖数: 2301
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五毛共X你疯了? 人家写的明明白白,“误以为”是乌克兰政府的飞机了
还警告了一下,所以击落
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/489802664264212480/photo/1
#Russia'n cmdr Strelkov commented on downed #MH17 (thinking it was Ukrainian
): "We warned - do not fly in our skies" pic.twitter.com/hkXoaD3xvT
d****o
发帖数: 32610
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“警告了一下,所以击落”
哪里?

Ukrainian
M*****n
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Russian media reported that RU forces shot down a Ukrainian cargo plane but
it turned out to be the #MH17
原文在
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/489813730600169472/photo/1
y***u
发帖数: 7039
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来自主题: Military版 - 参议猿发话了
McCain
he senator said: “But if it is the result of either separatist or Russian
actions mistakenly believing this was a Ukrainian war plane, I think there’
s going to be hell to pay and there should be.”
为什么不是乌克兰呢?
z****n
发帖数: 5870
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Australia's Qantas Airways , Korea Air Lines Co Ltd and Asiana Airlines Inc
Australia's Qantas Airways , Korea Air Lines Co Ltd and Asiana Airlines Inc
have confirmed that they shifted flights operating over Ukrainian air space
months ago amid increasing tensions between Kiev and pro-Moscow rebels.
The Australian flag carrier said it shifted the flight path for its London
to Dubai route over Ukraine some 400 nautical miles to the south "several
months ago."
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 貌似民兵被政府坑了!
As reported earlier by RIA, the Russian Defense Ministry says it had
intercepted the activity of a Ukrainian radar system on the day the
Malaysian plane went down in eastern Ukraine, the ministry’s press service
said Friday.
"Throughout the day on July 17, Russian means of radar surveillance
intercepted the operation of the Buk-M1 battery’s Kupol radar station
located in the region of the populated area of Styla [30 kilometers south of
Donetsk]," the press service said in a statement.
“The techn... 阅读全帖
m***a
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来自主题: Military版 - 每天都有民航飞那个航线么 ?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/malaysia-flight-17-analysts
"Although there had been restrictions over Crimea, in this part of Ukraine
there are no restrictions. The space between the ground and 32,000 feet had
been closed by the Ukrainians. Above 32,000 feet it was open. This plane was
not doing anything wrong being where it was.
"We can argue whether restrictions should have been in place with everything
going on there, but when that pilot flew that route ... there was nothing
wrong with d... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 美帝表现的太平静
surfsup:
"Was it diverted? In a sense, yes. Cars and Planes can be droned these days.
Dig down into this rabbit hole and it all clears up.
Press releases are way too slick and pre planned for this NOT to be a total
OP by interests that want Russia to appear as the villain, BRICS IMF 2.0
notwithstanding... Like a Khadaffi Round 2 with his ongoing promotion of a
future gold backed African currency. same shit... Nulander Handlers (not US
btw) also want GMO in the Ukrainian breadbasket and Putin has... 阅读全帖
k*******g
发帖数: 7321
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乌克兰搞不动民兵了,玩了这么一手,打掉一个客机来栽赃!

Ukrainian
instructed
t****9
发帖数: 4491
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来自主题: Military版 - 坠毁现场财物都被P民抢光了
Ukraine woman reportedly posts selfies with mascara 'looted' from Malaysia
Airlines crash
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ukrainian-woman-reportedl
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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Ron Paul: If MH17 Missile Was Russian, So What? ISIS Has U.S. Weapons
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-paul-if-mh17-missile-was-russian
While both the Ukrainian and Russian governments continue to point fingers
at one another for the MH17 crash, former Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) urged
caution Friday against jumping to any conclusions about where blame lies.
Some American pundits accuse Vladimir Putin of having “blood on his hands”
since the missile that took down the Malaysia Airlines flight may ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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If Russia fired the weapon, they should be blamed. If Ukrainians (of either
side) fired the weapon, then THEY should be blamed, not Russia.
But the REAL BLAME belongs with the airline, for flying over an ACTIVE
COMBAT ZONE where planes had just recently been shot down.
In other words, if I’m a 25 year old woman that decides to walk to downtown
Baltimore from a few miles out, at 2 in the morning, and I get raped - yes,
technically, it is the fault of the rapist. But I am still raped and have
to l... 阅读全帖
z********n
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b********n
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U.S. intelligence agencies have so far been unable to determine the
nationalities or identities of the crew that launched the missile. U.S.
officials said it was possible the SA-11 was launched by a defector from the
Ukrainian military who was trained to use similar missile systems.
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-intelligence-
s**********s
发帖数: 1079
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东乌共和联盟已全面掌握制空权了,今天又打下两架敌国军机。
Two Ukrainian Warplanes Shot Down
http://online.wsj.com/articles/pro-russia-rebels-down-two-ukrai
d****o
发帖数: 32610
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来自主题: Military版 - 乘客国籍出来了 50个法国人
He said the passenger list included 50 French, 24 Burkinabe, eight Lebanese,
four Algerians, two from Luxembourg, one Belgian, one Swiss, one Nigerian,
one Cameroonian, one Ukrainian and one Romanian. Lebanese officials said
there were at least 10 Lebanese citizens on the flight.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/24/us-algeria-flight-idU
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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(NOTE: In the list below, SFSR meant Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.
As the founder and aggressor of the USSR, this was Russia's designation. The
designation of the other republics was SSR - Soviet Socialist Republics.)
• Russian SFSR (since 1922). Today known as Russia
• Ukrainian SSR (since 1922). Today known as Ukraine
• Uzbek SSR (since 1924). Today known as Uzbekistan
• Kazakh SSR (since 1936). Today known as Kazakhstan
• Belorussian SSR (since 1922). To... 阅读全帖
f***y
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http://www.nst.com.my/node/20961
KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already
concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air
missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
u*******g
发帖数: 3300
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On a busy day of diplomatic activity, President Barack Obama and the German
chancellor, Angela Merkel, agreed on Saturday that Russia would face “
additional consequences” if it intervened in Ukraine without permission
from the Ukrainian government, the White House said.
l*********m
发帖数: 16971
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【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: lovefreedom (橘子爱自由), 信区: Stock
标 题: 马航MH17飞机到底怎么回事
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 11 13:43:23 2014, 美东)
美联社记者罗伯特·帕里说:“美国的一些情报来源的结论是,乌克兰叛军和俄罗斯很
可能没有错,它似乎是乌克兰政府部队惹的祸“。
马来西亚《新海峡时报》2014年8月7日 KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in
the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17
was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government
had had something to do with it.
t*******y
发帖数: 374
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来自主题: Military版 - MH 17 : Who is lying , West or Russia ?
This news was blackout on all West main news media up this moment in google
news search.
Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17
By Alex Lantier, OpEd News
OEN
Monday, Aug 11, 2014
An August 7 article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia's flagship English-
language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in
Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last
month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, ... 阅读全帖
c****o
发帖数: 2071
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来自主题: Military版 - 这次党和小将们怎么不一致啊
Chinese, Russian media turn criticisms back on US
BEIJING (AP) — Chinese and Russian state media have seized on the U.S.
police shooting of an unarmed black 18-year-old and ensuing protests to fire
back at Washington's criticisms of their own governments, portraying the
United States as a land of inequality and brutal police tactics.
The violence in the St. Louis, Missouri, suburb of Ferguson comes amid
tensions between the U.S. and Russia over Ukraine, as well as friction
between Washington and... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄罗斯志愿军小分队北上了!
Dnipropetrovsk已经开始召集志愿者,准备打仗了。
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/dnipropetrovsk-zaporizh
Dnipropetrovsk - The defense councils of the regions of Dnipropetrovsk and
Zaporizhia held a joint meeting on Aug. 28 at which they approved a plan to
recruit volunteers to defend the two Ukrainian regions.
w*********r
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Exclusive - Over 100 Russian soldiers killed in single Ukraine battle -
Russian rights activists
(Reuters) - More than 100 Russian soldiers were killed in eastern Ukraine in
a single battle this month while helping pro-Russian separatists fight
Ukrainian troops, two members of the Russian presidential human rights
council said on Thursday, citing accounts from eyewitnesses and relatives of
the dead.
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 普京: 别跟核大国俄罗斯找茬
'It's better not to mess with Russia': Putin issues veiled threat to the
West and compares Ukraine's siege of rebel-held cities to the Nazis
surrounding Leningrad
He said Russia's nuclear programme means 'nobody would think of conflict'
He also tells rebels to release trapped enemy to 'avoid senseless deaths'
He compares Ukraine's sieges of two cities to Nazis' siege of Leningrad
He referred to 'Novorossiya' - or 'New Russia' - as he praised rebel '
success'
Kiev said the edict proved that se... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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Ukraine crisis: Government setbacks in Luhansk and Donetsk
Ukrainian forces have suffered a series of setbacks, as pro-Russian rebels
advance in the east of the country.
Officials said nearly 700 soldiers had been taken prisoner since the rebel
offensive began.
Earlier the military said government forces had been forced to withdraw from
Luhansk airport, saying they had been attacked by a column of Russian tanks.
Ukraine's defence minister said it was now fighting a "great war" with
Russia in whi... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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MOSCOW—Russia called on the U.S. to push Kiev into giving up its military
campaign against pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine and negotiating a
political deal, as recent Ukrainian gains on the battlefield were reversed
by what Western officials called an influx of Russian men and materiel.
y***u
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荷兰的良心:教授们向普京和俄罗斯道歉!
A letter sent by a prominent Dutch Professor to Russian president Vladimir
Putin has attracted much media attention in Europe. The letter was written
by Professor Cees Hamelink and signed by dozens of Dutch intellectuals and
professors. Below is the letter in its entirety.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------
Dear Mr. President Putin,
Please accept our apologies on behalf of a great many people here in the
Netherlands fo... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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http://en.ria.ru/world/20140905/192667852/Militia-Says-Its-Armo
DONETSK, September 5 (RIA Novosti) – A group of east Ukraine independence
supporters driving armored vehicles entered the southern Ukrainian city of
Mariupol Friday, a militia source told RIA Novosti.
Hostilities continue near the city despite ongoing peace talks in the
Belarusian capital, Minsk, widely expected to result in a ceasefire.
“Our group entered the districts of Talakovka and Sartana. They are a bit
away from the Vostochn... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Ukraine's Pro-War Party Is Collapsing In The Polls
After the steady rise of enthusiasm for war in Ukraine voter polls through
the summer, Ukrainian politicians in favour of the military campaign against
Donetsk, Lugansk, and Russia, have suffered a dramatic loss of support
across the country.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-pro-war-party-is-collap
c****x
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美帝真是天人五衰之象显露无遗。
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-now-admits-it-is-funding-occupy
Just as the US admitted shortly after the so-called “Arab Spring” began
spreading chaos across the Middle East that it had fully funded, trained,
and equipped both mob leaders and heavily armed terrorists years in advance,
it is now admitted that the US State Department through a myriad of
organizations and NGOs is behind the so-called “Occupy Central” protests
in Hong Kong.
The Washington Post would report in an art... 阅读全帖
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