s**c
发帖数: 34339 | 1 he was all star this year |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 3 哦对，糊涂了，上赛季我这么说的时候他还不是，lol，时间过得真快。。。 |
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n**y
发帖数: 11447 | 4 不防他是因为他没篮
去年少一个噶乃，他不是表现更好么 |
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y****e
发帖数: 1785 | 5 这也就是在我凯，其他地方他这种没投射的pg还不给堵死 |
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g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 6 Stockton is underrated.
Malone is overrated. |
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s*******u
发帖数: 1855 | 7 去年打Denver,game 3,40sec那个后仰三分.重要性怎么emphasize不过分,是most
underrated shot ever.那是kobe一辈子最重要的一投.loser跟winner就拿一下子.进了
就ring,不进就输了series,然后phil走人,lamar跟ariza留不住,重头再来,一辈子钉在
耻辱柱上 |
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t******o
发帖数: 5314 | 8 good deal. underrated defender. |
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s*******u
发帖数: 1855 | 9 http://bbs.hoopchina.com/1008/1493502.html
espn甚至不认为melo是顶级球员(cp是,按照espn的说法).这个太荒谬了.典型的只看per
,不看球的说法.
melo的个人能力,估计联盟前三,跟kobe,lebron一档,完全beat wade等人.最简单的看看
Denver客场打骑士那场吧
加上领袖气质,可能差了一点,但是比cp,durant等人,还是强多了
联盟这些年轻人(不算kobe这些老家伙了),除了miami的抱团无心人,以核心身份有能力
夺冠的,只有melo跟durant可能.
我对联盟现在实力的排序
kobe,lebron一档
melo,dh,wade,deron一档
火箭如果在留下姚明的前提下拿到melo(还要说服melo续约),立马就是wcf的favorite.
湖人一不小心,火箭进final都不是梦.
其实今年,如果不是karl有病dantley脑残,Denver是进final的队伍,至少也能半决赛跟
湖人打到7场.
espn的话反着听就是了.那帮人从来不看球,只看ft数跟per.基本上,只捧baby(miami 3, |
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D*****I
发帖数: 8268 | 11 也就一个当年T-Mac吧，不报啥希望。。
per |
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z********i
发帖数: 3192 | 15 Melo can't beat 04 tmac |
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h*h
发帖数: 27852 | 16 Prokhorov ends Nets’ pursuit of Anthony
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
1 hour, 22 minutes ago
NEWARK, N.J. – In a stunning and surreal declaration during a live,
televised news conference, Russian billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov
declared his New Jersey Nets had canceled a planned Thursday meeting with
Denver Nuggets star Carmelo Anthony(notes) and ended the Nets’ part in the
long, acrimonious trade talks for the All-Star forward.
“It’s been too long and too expensive,” Prokhorov said.
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A*****e
发帖数: 29772 | 17 早就说了鲶鱼精overrated，早年有点underrated现在彻底overrated，类比足球里面的
xavi |
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s3
发帖数: 2270 | 18 有今年的准mvp玫瑰，noah大神和boozer，luol deng是underrated player，还有asiik
之类的也不错。另外公牛今年的主教练汤姆锡伯使得公牛防守加强了很多，btw，他很
有可能是今年coach of the year
总之，我是不太奇怪公牛能升到第一位的
玫瑰偶尔掉链子其他人也能帮着 |
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c****n
发帖数: 263 | 20 someone said he is the most underrated nba player. |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 21 I am amazed how well Lakers play defense in the first 4 games.
And the stats said they're top 1-2 in defense department, all
without Bynum.
Yes, he's probably horrible on offense. I think he didn't give
gasol enough opportunities down low and play too much P&R. But
I like moving MWP to bench and let him operate down low there.
看来今年我的俩预测又应验了，MB被低估，KB会比去年打得好。
不过湖人这个阵容想拿冠军，如果整不到魔兽，至少得升级一下PG，
稍微快点的控卫都把湖人扁得很厉害。 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 24 Brown was very good at defense when he was at Cleveland. His lack of
offensive tactics and making adjustment in game will be enlarged during
playoff. |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 25 magic太另类了不能比
而且PG大到他那个size也未必全是好事，印象里当年showtime的时候对面要是上小个PG
从发球就开始贴着magic，magic也难过，往往就得换人来运球过半场--所以scott同志
都当教练很久了还念念不忘觉得自己在银河的贡献被underrated了 |
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s******3
发帖数: 7297 | 26 one month ago you won't give such a positive evaluation
that's called underrated.
now you think Lin could be top 5 in two years
that's called overrated.
Can't you just be objective ? |
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T*******i
发帖数: 4992 | 27 melo属于overrated，prince属于underrated
拳王也不如big ben，AS也不如天尊
你们这些新球迷啊，分特 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 28 这不一样，LeChoke是way overrated，Lin是underrated。
LeChoke要是背上不写Chosen1，ESPN不从高中开始吹捧，
没Decision抱粗腿，大不了也就是马龙，纳什，嘲笑不多。 |
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t**********r
发帖数: 2019 | 29 It's not free. A first-rounder, albeit it will probably be 20+, can still
bring some talent. But a good trade indeed. I always think Sessions is
underrated. and got rid of Luke's contract? man never thought that could
ever happen. |
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L**J
发帖数: 606 | 30 马努，特里这两位都是水平太高，打得太好而特地被从主力阵容摘除去，在替补时间维
持火力用的，实在不能算。而且，他们的职业生涯实际上都因此被严重underachieve
和underrated了。
Gordon这倒霉孩子一辈子都被贴着“独”，“浪投”，“无脑”，“数据刷子”的标签
，几年后bulls来了位体型，位置打法都和他差不多的首发，该首发“有heart”，“敢投”，“有脑”，“stellar数据”立马就成了mvp，呵
呵。 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 31 His defense is underrated ... he is not too far away from DH, who was DPOY
of last 3 years |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 32 他去年去小牛之前很多人担心他容易伤病.他以前伤病历史不太好.
His defense is underrated ... he is not too far away from DH, who was DPOY
of last 3 years |
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F**********d
发帖数: 142 | 33 历史上没有被overated 的球员只有三个人， 排名依次是
1。 Kobe (Actually underrated, he could win it all even without Shaq or
Gasol, he is better than MJ)
2。 LBJ (As good as MJ, no champions yet because his teammates are stupid)
3。 Greg Oden (fully deserves the No 1 pick, ahead of Durant)
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lg
发帖数: 2062 | 34 起点不同而已。
一个掏垃圾掏出来的，期望值只有30分的，得了60分，是overrated
一个大家哄抢的，期望值100分的，只得了90分，是underrated |
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s***o
发帖数: 6934 | 35 你这个太不靠谱了
overrated:
Gary Payton
Tony Parker
Rajon Rondo
Chauncey Billups
Andrea Miller ??????? WTF????
underrated:
Chris Paul
竟然没有tim hardaway？mark jackson？ |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 36 Chris Paul is way overrated.他怎么能和这些赢家相比？
Andrea Miller is way underrated.
我不喜欢手套。但是他有成绩的。
1. Defense Player of the Year (控卫不容易)
2. 抢断排第四。前面是老斯，小孩，帮主。
3. 助攻排第八。第一还是老斯。第二还是小孩。
4. 作为老大，带队进入决赛。输给帮主。
5. 抱了两次大腿，得了一个戒指。
现在的Chris Paul，还有许多需要证明。
我说过的。除了前四，我不肯定。抛砖引玉吗。 |
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B*******y
发帖数: 174 | 37 这个mvp+fmvp是俺提出来的。
个人觉得最硬最铁的判据还是同赛季mvp+fmvp，这个荣誉实在是太钢了。相当于囊括了
“个人竞技能力巅峰俯瞰群雄”+“最有领导能力”+“关健时刻最有抗压能力最clutch
”这几个顶级光环。由其是拿了mvp后，等于在季后赛开了“群嘲”的被动技能，这样
还能顶住各种飞刀砖头，笑而不语地走到最后。实在是没有比这个更有说服力的了。
NBA从古到今，能达到这个级别的就9人13人次（指环王和老张那时代好象还没fmvp）：
Reed(70), Jabbar(71), Malone(83), Bird(84,86), Magic(87), MJ(91,92,96,98)
Dream(94), Shaq(00), TD(03)
这些人可谓“真.超巨”，绝无幸至。顺便提一句，摩西马龙绝对是被现代人给
underrate了。当然，MJ一骑绝尘地杀了个四进四出，是不是该列成单一级别，比如“
真.神”，这个另说。
比这个低一档次，如你而言，相邻2，3个赛季分别拿到mvp和fmvp。也算是不小的成就
了，只是说服力没有上面几个那么强大。因此我觉得可称之为“残缺.超巨”。尽
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d******3
发帖数: 209 | 38 没有Ibaka，okc 哪场都赢不了。这家伙才是最underrated, 没有他okc根本就不是
contender |
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w******t
发帖数: 16937 | 39 有条件的同意。
没有Ibaka，okc 哪场都赢不了。这家伙才是最underrated, 没有他okc根本就不是
contender
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a******5
发帖数: 199 | 40 he is one of the most underrated players, well fit into Celtics framework |
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m*****g
发帖数: 12253 | 41 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Tupac (海门的斧头) 于 (Sat Jan 21 04:27:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
以后的球员身体上迟早会出现比乔老爷更牛逼的，但媒体无孔不入，有天赋的球员从小
就生活在聚光灯下，hype出来的chosen one温室里的花朵怎么可能有乔老爷那种mental
toughness。从乔老爷退役到现在都快15年了，最接近同时也是唯一一个有资格拿出来
说一下的还是个乔老爷亲手虐过的圣科比，剩下小辈的越来越不成器。
肉丝有天赋，难得还挺淳朴够努力，身边还有诺神护驾，芝加哥传说的光环加成，他要
再不行，那是真的谁都不行了，下一个篮球之神只能去广大亚非拉地区寻找了，保不定
就出在咱们CBA，哼哼。
其实我就是又看了一遍这个视频感叹下
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Enterlight (家有仙猪) 于 (Sat Jan 21 16:54:01 2012, 美东) 提到:
Rose遇到LBJ...
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b****r
发帖数: 17995 | 42 姚明的地位还是相当不错的，起码绝对没有underrate他
太空易在NBA是真不行，看他上场的感觉一个字 累 |
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k******a
发帖数: 2436 | 43 zt hehe
"
it's ridiculous that lin is being paid 8m/year and melo is only paid 23m/
year. melo becomes the most underrated and underpaid.
8m/year is way too much for someone whose job is passing the ball to melo? c
'mon, how hard can the job be? it's not like to passing the ball to a
running target.
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h***o
发帖数: 2321 | 44 Kevin Johnson
One of the most underrated NBA player. |
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H**U
发帖数: 1814 | 45 truly underrated dunker. |
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p****p
发帖数: 3360 | 46 不算underrated，他参加了2012的dunk contest。在目前NBA白人里面是最惊艳的了。 |
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A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 47 只要裁判允许，团队合作，现役里的阿猫阿狗有几个逆天的都不奇怪。远的不说，火箭
的哈登就是个例子。司机如果不能拿mvp, 不能拿戒指，也会归到一堆underrated的球
员里面。你也没时间平胸去论了 |
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H**U
发帖数: 1814 | 48 The reason he stops the ball in half court is to call the play and wait for
the man (either high post or shooter comes off the screen) to receive his
pass. At current situation, he is not allowed to play isolation and the ball
usually will not come back to him unless a play is broken and has to reset.
His dribble definitely needs to improve, along with his long range
shootings. He actually underrates his size at PG position. If he utilizes
properly and with intensive training, he can post-up mos... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******g
发帖数: 2262 | 49 什么？gasol很强，比howard强多了
gasol是underrated！ |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 50 Yes, Patterson for TRob does hurt and will probably hurt the rest of this
season. Patterson has been here for 3 seasons now. He knew the system. He
knew his role. And he had EXPERIENCE. TRob is raw, raw, raw.
If we were contending for a championship, Morey probably doesn't make this
deal. But we aren't. We're trying to become contenders. And as such you
gotta keep moving, keep your trade assets fresh, keep young guys on rookie
contracts fresh on the roster and cycle out guys that are fixing to s... 阅读全帖 |
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