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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 5 要是让我用Ogletree现在换Austin，肯定干啊，sell high |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 6 关键是巨人二线人手不够。防住一二号，防不住三号外界。所以牛仔使劲打这个
mismatch。对别的对不一定奏效。
绿湾的5个外接手阵型就是专门这样搞这种mismatch。 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 7 再看看吧 这几个球还是有点技术含量的 虽然一个也不如austin那个高接 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 10 我不换。
今天Austin在很短的时间给我捞了13分呀。
其他人都很水。 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 12 Yeah, this Justin Tryon (the guy who broke his bone last year) is the #6
corner back on the team.
But the disappointing thing is that he was not able to make even one play.
Unconditional surrender every single time. Good grief. |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 13 赞unconditional surrender
你们人头不熟 第六为啥整天在场上 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 14 #2 Terrel Thomas, lasted exactly one practice before re-tearing his ACL, out
for the year.
#3 Prince Amukamara, twisted knee, which may or may not be resulted from
being thrown into the water tub by JPP in that infamous video, out until
next week.
#4 Jayron Hosley, a rookie, twisted his ankle when he was show-boating by
high-stepping into the end zone on an INT return in the preson, out until
next week.
#5 Michael Coe, hurt tonight.
So we were left with the #6 Justin Tryon. Yuck !!! |
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o**********r
发帖数: 1585 | 17 michael coe is ok. Actually very good before injury;
My bigger concern is DTs. They were getting tired in the second half because
of no substitutes. they fail to stop the run and neither help JPP and Tuck
to make plays.
When are they gonna come back? I miss canty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 18 Canty never missed ONE game in his four years in Dallas, and then he came to
New York and promptly missed half of the time.
It really pains me if they waste a Eli's prime year on injury issues known
BEFORE the season, heck, before the PRE-season even.
because
Tuck |
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o**********r
发帖数: 1585 | 19 #2 Terrel Thomas, lasted exactly one practice before re-tearing his ACL, out
for the year.
So pathetic! yeah, this is the second whole season he is out for! |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 20 His Giants career is definitely over -- he is due a $5M roster bonus next
March.
Most likely his entire football career is over too, at age 27. He was coming
off back-to-back 5-Int seasons, both leading the team in tackles, and
entering his free agent year.
I hate pre-season games.
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o**********r
发帖数: 1585 | 21 I really don't get why they always say we have a solid roster.Even true,
INJURIES RUIN IT!!!!!!
Besides the injuries, it looks that Wilson and Bennett have a long way to
fit into the system;
After the talent Goff left Giants, I never see a really speedy LB!
worried! just pray the medical list can get shorter quickly.
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x******2
发帖数: 4034 | 22 你们是够倒霉的，还没开打就一堆病号，不过看淡点也好，毕竟蝉联冠军太难了，享受
比赛吧 |
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x******2
发帖数: 4034 | 24 作为拍饭，巨人的模式你们应该再熟悉不过了，所以根本不叫歪 |
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I*1
发帖数: 5635 | 25 全搞undraft的球员。小鸡都是怎么发现这些球员的。 |
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l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 26 如果我22岁就是4个娃的爹，还结过婚，离过婚，
从5*的全国冠军走向undrafted，
我觉得忧郁和被砍都很正常了 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 27 He was an undrafted rookie free agent in 2010.
Had that great pre-season, made the team, was active for 3 games but never
saw the field, and went on IR.
It's now widely speculated the Giants put him on IR (for a nebulous
hamstring "injury") to keep him on the team. Coughlin made his way into the
NFL as a WR coach. It's his specialty. |
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w*****y
发帖数: 3900 | 28 可以拿Victor Cruz和Miles Austin作个有意思的对比，俩人都是New Jersey出产的高中
球员，都没能拿到Division-IA的奖学金，大学Cruz去的是明年即将升入IA的UMass,Aus
tin去了本地名气更小的私立Monmouth University,两人大学毕业都是Undrafted，Aust
in在牛仔默默无闻的打了三年，09年牛仔release TO,Austin熬出头成为3号外接手,第一
场NFL首发，就创造了牛仔的franchise single game receiving yard record，同年成
为pro bowler, 相比之下，Cruz的NFL经历更顺利一些，在巨人只坐了一年板凳，第二年
，SS离开纽约去了费城，Manningham和Hixon伤停，Cruz一下成为巨人的主力接球手，一
个赛季下来，创造了巨人franchise single season receiving yard record,入选all
pro，这两人都是大器晚成的球员，Austin10年和牛仔签的合同是6年54M,Cruz更年轻，
合同应该会更高
还有一... 阅读全帖 |
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M****l
发帖数: 1954 | 29 这斯手感不如布朗是肯定的。但他刚出道的时候也没觉得掉这么多球。记得打包装工的
时候最后一秒还接住一个和09年Super Bowl Holmes一摸一样的TD.看来手感还是可以退
步的。
其实现在他状态不好，和新OC的打法也有很大关系。港人现在进攻学爱国者打小叮当。
很少有长的。华来士特点发挥不出来，你让他打slot，还不如用Cothery，好歹高点壮
点。实际上港人红区效率低下重要的原因是没有高大外界手。基本上都是找Miller。别
的队也知道，笨狗三个球员在端区照顾着。第一个intercept，第二个接到TD了。
本来我很看好去年一个Undraft新秀TE Saunders 身体好，跑位也不错，挡人差点可以
练。结果也是问题少年，年初禁赛4场，加上新OC从酋长带了个嫡系（绝对废柴一条）
被Steelers release了。马上被Colts抢去了，Bruce Arian 肯定了解这小子，希望他
在Colts能出头。当然，Colts今年连续draft俩TE，竞争肯定激烈，小马球迷可以关注
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r*******d
发帖数: 2413 | 30 "a record five rookies prepare to take the field as starting quarterbacks.
The old record was three in 1960. Not only will all four first-rounders in
last spring’s draft – Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, and
Brandon Weeden – be starters, but so too will Russell Wilson, Seattle’s
third-round pick. In addition, the other six QBs taken in the draft,
including the last player picked, all landed NFL jobs, as did three
undrafted free agent signal callers"
期待运气和RG3打rookie bowl，什么mannin... 阅读全帖 |
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 31 Josh Brent arrested after fatal crash
DALLAS -- Dallas Cowboys nose tackle Josh Brent was arrested early Saturday
morning for intoxication manslaughter after a one-vehicle accident that kill
ed teammate Jerry Brown.
Irving police spokesman John Argumaniz said the accident happened about 2:20
a.m. Saturday in the Dallas suburb. Brent was speeding when the vehicle hit
a curb and flipped at least once, Argumaniz said.
Argumaniz says the 25-year-old Brown was found unresponsive at the scene and
pron... 阅读全帖 |
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S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 32 From wiki:
"Baldwin became the first undrafted rookie free agent to lead his team in
receptions and yards receiving since the AFL-NFL merger." |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 33 谨慎看好undrafted打败no.2 pick |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 36 比选秀落差，tony romo是the best undrafted qb |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 38 我DR估计要从undraft跳到3-4 round了，哈哈。one of the best option QB， kelly
估计会喜欢，就是传球比较差一点，呵呵。
我DR估计就会被老鹰抓去当option QB，或是被港人抓去当randel El#2了。 |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 39 Either Bellichick or Kraft was being cheap on recriuting star WR/CB
Over-cofident on their ability of picking jems from undrafted
一分钱一分货 对elite级别的players还是没错的 |
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s*****r
发帖数: 477 | 40 既然提到了，我就随便说说乌鸦2012-2013的球员合同问题吧。
根据现有的合同，乌鸦阵容里有49人under contract next year,工资帽总额107M，根据
预计的121M salary cap，还有14M左右的空间。当然，老刘退役，会再腾出4.5M，所以
总共有的空间是18-19M.此外Matt Birk也极有可能退役，会腾出2.5M左右的空间。
关键的自由球员按优先级排序包括:Joe Flacco(QB),Dannell Ellerbe(ILB),Cary
Williams(CB),Paul Kruger(OLB),Ed Reed(FS),Bryant McKinnie(LT).另外还有几个限
制性自由球员，包括Dennis Pitta(TE),Ed Dickson(TE)和Arthur Jones(DT/DE).
先说三个限制性自由球员，这里面没有一个人需要用1轮或者2轮tender，original-
round tender明年是1.33M,就算三个人会占掉4M
再说说乌鸦必须要留的人，包括Joe Flacco和Ellerbe.Joe Flacco的合同估计... 阅读全帖 |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 41 Pats最大的问题是搞了一堆undrafted的鸡零狗碎
别看单个少 加起来也相当可以了
小鸡对自己从垃圾里捡宝的能力过分自信了 这几年越发眼力不行了 |
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s*****r
发帖数: 477 | 42 就专门回应一下你对于三番跑攻和乌鸦防守的分析吧。你说三番跑攻powerful，乌鸦防
跑比较差，这个总结得太笼统了。关键是你高估了pistol而低估乌鸦的RunD.这个赛季
乌鸦碰到过打pistol的红皮。的确红皮的前两个进攻drive让乌鸦很不适应，但是之后
RG3和Morris的跑攻就都被shut down了。
Read option的精髓是后发制人，具体来说就是QB等待对位的OLB暴露防守意图再选择自
己的进攻方式。遇到没有discipline的Def，QB会完全跑开。再比如发空和三番的比赛，
亚伯拉罕played very conservatively to take out QB run,却导致Gore的running
lane大开。
回到乌鸦红皮那场。注意那场比赛Suggs因伤缺阵，由undrafted FA McClellan和
rookie Upshaw来轮流打这个位置。由于都没有NFL比赛经验，不会阅读比赛，两个人
只能老老实实做到不丢外线给RG3，让FB轻松attack ILB to open running lane for
morris.两个drive之后，乌鸦... 阅读全帖 |
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d***o
发帖数: 6117 | 43 不光是2、3轮，undrafted 都未必不如sj。过气就是过气了，不服老也没用，rb平均来
说巅峰也就是3年。就是和moreno比，年轻3年多就是资本，放到市场上肯定比sj抢手，
多少还能是首发。NFL就是这样，前浪死在沙滩上，当年再牛说不行就不行了。不信看
下赛季SJ如果不退役，进FA几个队会要，会签什么价码，队内排第几rb |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 44 Here is one lesson I learned from my experience.
When comparing two offers, try to take the money/salary out of the equation
first. We tend to over-weight the importance of money, and let it overshadow
other more important factors. Actually, a few extra tens of thousand
dollars may look nice on your bank statement, but in reality, it doesn't
really have any significant impact in your life, at least not in my life.
After the first clean and hard look at the two offers, and if it's too close
to ca... 阅读全帖 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 45 Here is one lesson I learned from my experience.
When comparing two offers, try to take the money/salary out of the equation
first. We tend to over-weight the importance of money, and let it overshadow
other more important factors. Actually, a few extra tens of thousand
dollars may look nice on your bank statement, but in reality, it doesn't
really have any significant impact in your life, at least not in my life.
After the first clean and hard look at the two offers, and if it's too close
to ca... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 46 很想知道这个第七轮pick是怎么谈出来的。以西雅图的顺位，这pick根本不值钱，在这
个位置上看中的球员如果不选估计也可以undrafted FA签回来。谈判的时候是谁提出这
个pick的，不怕另一方笑话？ |
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 48 两三个月没说话了，不过一直还在版上看帖子...
(大蓝，还好吧？)
这么多人说歪客，我也忍不住罗嗦几句。
先声明我很喜欢歪客。三年前歪客对德佬弄断ACL的当天，我在这里预言(可惜2010年
帖子找不到了)，毛四可以放走，但希望歪客能在拍子弄个戒指，because he deserves
it.
所以昨天的消息一出，我是真难过了5分钟。
5分钟之后，稍微回过一点神，再看看网上的一片骂声，反倒觉得有必要想想前因后
果。想出的结论就是：
拍子/小鸡盘算这事儿，不是一两天、一两个月，而是有日子了。
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先回顾一下历史。
2006赛季，拍子在AFCC领先18分的情况下输给扣子，成就了大曼的SB。那个赛季，
拍子的几个外接手名字，谁能说的出？头号外接，估计大家都忘了他的大名： Reche
Caldwell，勉强能记住他的外号：白眼狼。他的赛季码数 -- 整整700码。其他外接
更惨。
痛定思痛，2007赛季前，拍子一口气弄来了几个外接手。找来一个毛四，砖家说：
好棋。又找来一个slot receiver 兼 punt / kickoff returner，砖家又说 ----
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发帖数: 2504 | 49 其实前几年新老交替一直在稳步进行，只是今年拿了SB，是大家都关注的焦点，加上
Lewis退役，Reed这种级别的大牌转会，这才显得格外突出。还有Ellerbe，Kruger之类
的哪算得上什么大鱼啊，SB以前估计非鸦迷都没几个人听说过的。Ellerbe是undrafted
free agent，Kruger2轮秀，头3年一直没多少机会上场，已经被很多人认为是bust了
，去年Jarret Johnson走了，Sizzle伤了才拿到首发的机会的，防跑和set edge这方面
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 50 怪不得网上文章说布朗要做冤大头了。
undrafted |
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