t**k 发帖数: 260 | 1 记得这篇是最早描述cyberspace的小说。
Vinge确实很牛,除了科幻小说,Singularity这个想法居然就是他首先提出的。 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 2 一个故意不通过图灵测试的人工智能
2015-02-07 22:58 沈怀霜
一个故意不通过图灵测试的人工智能
2015-02-07 22:58 沈怀霜
阅读 133万+
人工智能很可能导致人类的永生或者灭绝,而这一切很可能在我们的有生之年发生。
上面这句话不是危言耸听,请耐心的看完本文再发表意见。这篇翻译稿翻译完一共三万
五千字,我从上星期开始翻,熬了好几个夜才翻完,因为我觉得这篇东西非常有价值。
希望你们能够耐心读完,读完后也许你的世界观都会被改变。
======================
内容翻译自http://waitbutwhy.com
原文地址:
The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction
转载请保留原文链接和翻译者 知乎 @谢熊猫君
=======================
我们正站在变革的边缘,而这次变革将和人类的出现一般意义重大 – Vernor Vinge
如果你站在这里,你会是什么感觉?
看上去非常刺激吧?但是你... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 3 一个故意不通过图灵测试的人工智能
2015-02-07 22:58 沈怀霜
阅读 133万+
人工智能很可能导致人类的永生或者灭绝,而这一切很可能在我们的有生之年发生。
上面这句话不是危言耸听,请耐心的看完本文再发表意见。这篇翻译稿翻译完一共三万
五千字,我从上星期开始翻,熬了好几个夜才翻完,因为我觉得这篇东西非常有价值。
希望你们能够耐心读完,读完后也许你的世界观都会被改变。
======================
内容翻译自http://waitbutwhy.com
原文地址:
The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction
转载请保留原文链接和翻译者 知乎 @谢熊猫君
=======================
我们正站在变革的边缘,而这次变革将和人类的出现一般意义重大 – Vernor Vinge
如果你站在这里,你会是什么感觉?
看上去非常刺激吧?但是你要记住,当你真的站在时间的图表中的时候,你是看不到曲
线的右边的,因为你是看... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 4 一个故意不通过图灵测试的人工智能
2015-02-07 22:58 沈怀霜
阅读 133万+
人工智能很可能导致人类的永生或者灭绝,而这一切很可能在我们的有生之年发生。
上面这句话不是危言耸听,请耐心的看完本文再发表意见。这篇翻译稿翻译完一共三万
五千字,我从上星期开始翻,熬了好几个夜才翻完,因为我觉得这篇东西非常有价值。
希望你们能够耐心读完,读完后也许你的世界观都会被改变。
======================
内容翻译自http://waitbutwhy.com
原文地址:
The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction
转载请保留原文链接和翻译者 知乎 @谢熊猫君
=======================
我们正站在变革的边缘,而这次变革将和人类的出现一般意义重大 – Vernor Vinge
如果你站在这里,你会是什么感觉?
看上去非常刺激吧?但是你要记住,当你真的站在时间的图表中的时候,你是看不到曲
线的右边的,因为你是看... 阅读全帖 |
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c****t 发帖数: 19049 | 5 2011 is shaping up to an amazing year for Speculative Fiction at large not
just Fantasy although that is looking damn good all by itself. My Sci-Fi
list last year was only 7 books long, which grew a little with the year, but
it was so short I combined it with UR and Steampunk picks. This year Sci-Fi
warrants a post all its own with loads of debuts and returning stars. The
people claiming Sci-fi is dying or already dead should shear the wool off
their eyes and see what is brewing.
Science Fictio... 阅读全帖 |
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 6 长篇奖是Vernor Vinge写的A Deepness in the Sky.
其实俺读这一部感觉,
并没有Vinge上次得奖的那一部A Fire upon the Deep那种深沉的震撼.
当然有些方面的设想和探讨是比较深入, 有伦理意义的
比如星际贸易帝国的构想, 比如对人类思想的控制,
但总的来说内容好象不够丰富, 面并不是太广.
相形之下俺还是更喜欢Neal Stephenson的Cryptonomicon,
这是一本无所不包的大杂烩,
从阴极射线管的工作原理, 到牛奶麦片的最酷的吃法,
从空气涡流的形成过程, 到古希腊神话中诸神之间的复杂关系,
从新几内亚食人部族的生活习性, 到硅谷新兴公司的运作方式,
都有详尽深入的描写探讨,
加上时不时冒出来的极辛辣的幽默,
看这本书实在是非常地愉快.
这本书的主要缺点是太长(900多页),
这么长的书, 读者难免对于结局有很高的期盼,
结果那个尾巴实在是无关痛痒, 令人大失所望.
另外虽说可以看出作者对很多东西都做了不少homework,
才能写得这么细致逼真,
但他对中国的了解明显就只够蒙一蒙老美而已,
比如他以为中国的两种主要方言 |
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t*******n 发帖数: 4445 | 7 看看老兄以前的POST果然不假。顺便问一下,dune, dune messiah, children of dune三
部曲,越往后我越觉着没意思。剩下的chapterhouse dune, house
atreides/corrino/harkonnen 等等老兄觉得有看头否?
非专职的SF作家像Vinge(退休教授,不过其前妻Joan Vinge是专业SF), Egan (程序员
http://www.netspace.net.au/~gregegan/ ),因为没有太多商业气息,看起来有时有耳
目一新之感。
这两人的不足是结尾虚弱, 到最后一章老来个flop。A Deepness in the Sky 那个主人公
(甲虫)Sherkaner Underhill的形象多精彩,集牛顿,爱因斯坦,费曼等所有人类天才
为一体。结局突然蹦出来一句他和外面的先进人类一直有联系,这叫什么呀!Permutatio
n City后半部不堪看,只是因为他的前半部太引人入胜了,有computer graphics
expert说那是见过的最好描写。
上次忘了一个
Science + Socialism |
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b**h 发帖数: 32 | 8 刚刚看完备A Deepness in the Sky (Vernor Vinge),估计这里很多人都看过了,不过还
是简单说点感想,顺便推荐给没有看过的人。
这是我看的第一本VINGE的书,只所以选这本,是因为这本书比较新(1999),而且获了2
000年的Hugo Award,之前也看了许多评论,对它的评价大都不错,因此便买来看了。
故事发生在遥远的将来,人类文明已经在地球以外的的许多星球扎了根,不过由于种种原
因人类按其文明的种类大致分成两类,一类是Emergents,他们崇尚武力,并且发明了控
制人类大脑为之服务的技术,另一类则被成为Qeng
Ho,有自由商人组成,这和FOUNDATION里的商人组织很相似,他们自由穿梭在宇宙之中,
靠自己的先进的技术和信息来控制并影响各个星球上的人类文明。
虽然人类已经探索了许多星球,但是最近才发现外星人的存在,这些外星人行同蜘蛛,有
点特别的是他们生活是周期性的,因为他们所处星球的太阳的活动也是周期性的,在没有
能源照射的时期他们便进行冬眠。
为了与这些外星人取得直接接触,并从中取得潜在的利益,两类人类文明都派出了自己的
探索者,并同时在外星 |
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m*******c 发帖数: 41 | 9 IIRC, Vernor Vinge's "True Name", published 1981, is the father of them
all. I think it is still the best.
I highly recommend all works of Vinge; he is consistently good. His
language may be a little bit dry, but he is very rich in imagination
and his extrapolations are convincing. |
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m*******c 发帖数: 41 | 10 Neuromancer is definitely good, but perhaps in a different way.
(And I have some reservation about its being "the most influential". :)
When I said Truename is the best, I fully realized everyone has their
own notions of "good"; I probably should have supplemented my
recommendation with more qualification. I think Vinge's works might
appeal to those who appreciate the "science" part of sci-fi more.
Vinge combines vivid originality with rigorous reasoning and acute
judgement, so the worlds he c |
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m*******c 发帖数: 41 | 11 I did a little googling and find this article:
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/1999/04/05/vinge/
It mentions Vinge was a "math professor who teaches computer science";
so we are both right. Hehe. He has indeed retired; I stand corrected. |
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 12 hmm. ok. i remembered i had read somewhere that vinge's
"a fire upon the deep" was originally inspired by a
distributed computing seminar he attended many years ago.
and i know he used to be a professor. that's why i had
the impression that he was a cs professor. anyway, vinge
seldom produced novel-length sf work, a disappointment
for fans like me...:( |
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c**c 发帖数: 2593 | 13 介绍Blindsight (by Peter Watts)
2007年的雨果奖,长篇奖的入围名单有三部硬科幻:Vernor Vinge写的Rainbows End,
Charles Stross写的Glasshouse,以及Peter Watts写的Blindsight(盲视)。
我在科奇幻领域里的阅读口味偏向硬科幻,但已经四、五年没有读过新的英文科幻长篇
了,这回心血来潮,决定在这三部里至少读一部。Vernor Vinge和Charles Stross都是
我读过并且非常喜欢的作家,但这回还是决定换换口味,于是先从Peter Watts读起。
当然,主要还是因为一年前就在Sci Fi Weekly的书评专栏里看到过对Blindsight的高
度评价:
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/books/sfw13832.html
然后今年早些时候又看到Netscape创始人Marc Andreessen评介新世纪风头最盛的十名
新进科幻作家,Peter Watts以Blindsight一书的成就赫然在列:
http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/06/top |
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t*******n 发帖数: 4445 | 14 周末看到Rorschach部分开头,写一下印象。
总的来说肯定比Vinge那部强。其实雨果奖这个群众到会投票的方法,与其说是评水平
,不如是比人气。今年的5个候选者竟然有3个全文上网,估计就是这原因。
从最主要情节看,Blindsight其实可以称作Solaris的硬科幻版。Rorschach不就是那个
著名的墨迹测验么,当然观察者看到的是自己的心理了。
科幻题材略微偏多偏杂。作者各方面能说上几句而且不犯原则错误,当然是本事。不过
我读的时候好像能分辨出来:哪些是他现买现卖,哪些是他更熟悉的题材,前者就是没
有后者自然流利。而且这么蜻蜓点水的写法,读者学到的也有限。(据说Stross赞
Blindsight曰:“Imagine a neurobiology-obsessed version of Greg Egan...”,
不过Egan同学至少有耐心一个优点,一个关键概念能不惜花三章...)
跟当代其他硬科幻比,小说的人物和人际关系比较可信。例如同是老夫妻的扭曲婚姻关
系,Siri老爸老妈看着就是比Vinge笔下的顾诗人两口子真实。
故事组织比较离散,不知后半段有没改进 (羡慕楼主的 |
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t**k 发帖数: 260 | 15 差不多。
基地刚开始非常不错,到第二基地出来之后就越来越玄乎,搞出一堆漏洞,最后Asimov
自己都写不下去了。
深渊上的火还是蛮不错了,不过我更喜欢天渊。Vinge的其他小说也很不错,前阵子看
的实时放逐,是他早期作品,也蛮不错的。看完才知道原来technological
singularity竟然是Vinge提出的。 |
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t**k 发帖数: 260 | 16 差不多。
基地刚开始非常不错,到第二基地出来之后就越来越玄乎,搞出一堆漏洞,最后Asimov
自己都写不下去了。
深渊上的火还是蛮不错了,不过我更喜欢天渊。Vinge的其他小说也很不错,前阵子看
的实时放逐,是他早期作品,也蛮不错的。看完才知道原来technological
singularity竟然是Vinge提出的。 |
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w***g 发帖数: 5958 | 17 同呼唤, 顺便推荐两个我觉得比较好的。
Verno Vinge True Names.
Verno Vinge The Cookie Monster. |
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p****y 发帖数: 23737 | 18 http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/01/kim-jong-il
I Was Kim Jong Il's Cook
True stories from the Dear Leader's onetime chef
By Kenji Fujimoto
The author, who writes under a pseudonym, is a Japanese sushi chef. In 1982,
at the invitation of a Japanese-North Korean trading company, he started wo
rking in a sushi restaurant in Pyongyang. In 1988 he agreed to serve as Kim
Jong Il's personal chef—a job he held until 2001. In April of that year, ha
ving realized the extent of the paranoi... 阅读全帖 |
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Y****N 发帖数: 8694 | 19 类似还有ving 和 wing
micro 和macro
闹出无数笑话
不过现在的小留们好多了,我很欣慰 |
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n*********9 发帖数: 954 | 20 和美国正好相反,在美国FAMER's Market 西红柿是5.99/LB, 还是夏天,只有周末才
有,比COSTCO/WALMART之类的贵老去了。
比吃,在美国,也能体现财力的。顿顿出去吃,非快餐,也得一笔钱。别说再讲究的,
养个LIVING CHEF, 吃FARM MARKET的东东。
穿就差别更大了,人家随便一块表,就几万刀,是多少POSTDOC 的年薪啊。
那T-SHIRT 当然可以忽略不计了。 |
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w**********5 发帖数: 1741 | 21 英国黑其他国家的笑话
How do you convince Americans to get involved in a war?
Tell them it's nearly finished.
如何说服美国参与一场战争?
告诉他们战争马上就要结束了!
An American walked into an English pub and asked for a pint of Budweiser.
The barman replied "You're American aren't you?"
The man says, "Yeah. Could you tell by the drink I ordered, or the accent?"
The barman replied. "Neither, you are the fattest **** I have ever seen."
一个美国人走进一个英国酒吧,点了一瓶百威
服务员问道:你是美国人吧?
美国人诧异的回答:是啊!你是怎么知道的?是我点的酒不一样,还是口音不一样?
服务员回答:都不是! 你是我见过最TM胖的!
I'v... 阅读全帖 |
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x****e 发帖数: 1773 | 22 是一个GPS,买主收货当天退货,两天后留负评。联系回信说:
“As soon as I rec*eived it..I opened the pack*age...found that it was used
and non opera*ble with miss*ing pieces, I contac*ted Am*azon and rece*ived a
return authoriza*tion , put it back in the box and sent it back with*in an
hour of recei*ving the item.
I then order*ed another item from anoth*er re-seller and the SA*ME thing
happen*ed again !
I return*ed that item as well. ”
这厮大概又从amazon order了第三个,不知道咋么回事,amazon给伊说要6月5号才能到
,伊非常不爽。 |
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v***e 发帖数: 57 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Mathematics 讨论区 】
发信人: vinge (期待中), 信区: Mathematics
标 题: 关于学校求建议
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 17 03:26:43 2011, 美东)
亲戚家的小孩在申请学校,目前有两个机会:
一个是Texas A&M University,全奖(TA), Program:PhD in Mathematics.
还有一个是纽约大学读硕士,没有奖学金,要自付学费的New York University:
program: M.S in Mathematics.
本人对数学系不是很了解。请问,NYU的数学系值不值得自费读。还有,他本人想读
博士。如果在NYU 读完了硕士在申请博士容不容易? 谢谢! |
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m*********t 发帖数: 1250 | 24 Netspend是每个季度发放interets~ 夫妻俩的话最多可以各开5个Netspend旗下的各种账
户,如果再加上Mango的话,一共可以$60K产生约5%收益~ 其余的就放1%的online savi
ng或者新搬家看会不会收到一些$200-$250开户bonus的邮件传单,比如开新的CHASE Sa
ving放$15K拿$200 bonus~ |
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y**o 发帖数: 925 | 25 PRIMARY LOCATION: Atlanta, Georgia
We're an international company where people who have a passion for new techn
ologies and innovations really shine. Sound like you? We're looking for high
energy, a positive attitude and self-motivation. If you're looking for an i
nternational work environment, innovative opportunities and a bright future,
Hisense is a company in which you may excel.
Opening 1:UX Designer
Responsibilities:
- Research and develop innovative UX for Hisense p... 阅读全帖 |
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e******s 发帖数: 309 | 26 Pap smears are used primarily to detect cancer of the uterine cervix or prec
ancerous conditions - abnormalities of the cervix that may lead to cancer. S
ince its introduction in the early 1940's, the Pap smear is credited with sa
ving tens of thousands of women's lives and decreasing deaths from cervical
cancer by more than 70%. The key is early detection made possible by microsc
opic examination of a specially treated sample of cervical cells. Every woma
n should have an annual Pap smear as pa |
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C****i 发帖数: 1776 | 27 https://consumer.bankofamerica.com/USCCapp/Ctl/entry?sc=VABHEZ&cm_sp=Cons-CC
-_-Card-Rewards-_-CCW4DH5Z_hm_gas_blue_3_100_arark0n_s.jpg#b
BankAmericard Cash Rewards? Visa Signature? Card
Get a $100 cash back bonus after you make at least $500 in purchases within
90 days of account opening
Earn 1% cash back on every purchase, 2% on groceries, and 3% on gas (Quarter
ly maximum applies to bonus rewards on grocery and gas purchases). Plus earn
a 10% customer bonus when you redeem into a Bank of Amer... 阅读全帖 |
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f******l 发帖数: 710 | 28 No matter what you do, how good or bad you are doing, you are just simply li
ving day by day within less than 100 years of human life. Think about that.
个问题的答案。 |
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c****e 发帖数: 20 | 29 sorry, 一不留神发了个空贴。
如果是400的6号出口或更北边,早上往南边走每天会堵得死去活来,不值当。Sandy
Springs估计还行,起码不用上400。在Vings或Smyrna应该最方便。 |
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B*Z 发帖数: 7062 | 30 感觉说的有道理。这个新房选择是一进门是一个走廊。走廊右边是一个room,可以做li
ving room,也可以做一个卧室。问题是我们没几个不太熟的客人。专门搞这么一个房子
浪费。(好朋友直接进去了,不在living room里面呆。)是不是最好有这么一个卧室,
但是挑一个里面family room够大的比较好?
?
bedroom
方。 |
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i*****g 发帖数: 6926 | 31 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
StartupEvent (创业协会活动发布) 于 (Mon Apr 25 01:27:37 2011, 美东) 提到:
不是会员的欢迎用这个链接注册参加这次活动:
http://seattlestartupmay11.eventbrite.com/
============================================
Leadership Skills for Entrepreneurs
05/11/2011, 7:15pm-8:30pm
Bellevue Library Meeting Room #1
1111 110th Avenue NE, Bellevue WA
We are honored to invite our special guest speaker J.D. Hokoyama, the founder of LEAP (Leadership Education for Asian Pacifics) to talk about leadership sk... 阅读全帖 |
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v******a 发帖数: 45075 | 32 you stupid pathetic cunt, if i were you i won't show off the lousy english l
ike that in public, makes you look nothing but a clumsy clown. go check the
fucking website will ya, dumbass?
haven't you noticed "loblaw companieS", did you say "loblaw companieS", or "
loblaws" or just "loblaw" or even better "lablaw"?
you consider yourself a senior person? good 4 ya, you know what senior peopl
e means, or you don't, cocksucker? a pig, sorry to pigs, for lack of a bette
r word for now, like you making... 阅读全帖 |
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o*o 发帖数: 5155 | 33 Warriors @ Grizzlies (Apr 09, 2016)
(CC = Correct Call, IC = Incorrect Call, CNC = Correct Non-Call, INC = Incor
rect Non-Call)
Q4 01:53.0 Foul: Loose Ball Draymond Green Vince Carter INC
Green (GSW) dislodges Carter (MEM) affecting his ability to retrieve the reb
ound.
Video
Comment:
Q4 01:43.0 Foul: Personal Zach Randolph Stephen Curry CNC
Randolph (MEM) makes incidental contact with Curry (GSW) that does not affec
t his RSBQ.
Video
Comment:
Q4 01:23.0 Foul: Personal Harrison Barnes Lance Step... 阅读全帖 |
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P***t 发帖数: 1006 | 34 Summer is here! Anyone interested in playing a tournament? I am planning of ha
ving:
LK level: <= 5k
K level: 5k - 1k
D level: >= 1k
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d*****r 发帖数: 5934 | 36 The Volkl Quantum 8 maintains a well dampened, comfortable feel over a forgi
ving 102 square inch midplus head. It's arm friendly while still retaining a
solid, stable feel when hitting groundstrokes. We also found a heavier feel
than this racquet's 10.3 ounce stationary weight would suggest. A conclusio
n perhaps helped in part by the Quantum 8's slight head light balance and ex
tended length (27.6 inches). Finally, the Volkl Quantum 8's string pattern i
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P**********n 发帖数: 6311 | 38 Vernor Vinge 在《A Deepness in the Sky》里描述了“人类”周而复始的进化过程:
每一个星球都在一遍一遍的从荒蛮进化到高等文明,进而崩溃消亡,所以基础科研会被
一遍一遍的重复,也必须重复。而每一次进化历程都可能出现精英把本地文明推入宇宙
,而宇宙也就成为了一个大的市场,各种文明的成果就是这个市场中的货物。文明会消
亡,市场不灭。
又好像说偏了 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 39 复习一下Vernor Vinge的时候了,那个都快十年了。当时还是在Palm上看的,呵呵。 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 40 那个Vinge拼成 Qeng Ho (坑猴),很要命的。
还有一个作家叫China Mieville的,呵呵。 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 41 Vinge 写的东西有时候是很难翻。他退休前是UCSD的计算机系教授。 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 42 这个郑和写成Qeng Ho,坑爹呀。郑和拼音是Zheng He,威妥玛拼音是Cheng Ho,那个
Vinge非要来一个Qeng Ho, 估计把ch' = q 的规则乱套,结果搞出一个Qeng Ho。
用郑和显得更Alien一些? |
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P**********n 发帖数: 6311 | 43 Vernor Vinge 在《A Deepness in the Sky》里描述了“人类”周而复始的进化过程:
每一个星球都在一遍一遍的从荒蛮进化到高等文明,进而崩溃消亡,所以基础科研会被
一遍一遍的重复,也必须重复。而每一次进化历程都可能出现精英把本地文明推入宇宙
,而宇宙也就成为了一个大的市场,各种文明的成果就是这个市场中的货物。文明会消
亡,市场不灭。
又好像说偏了 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 44 复习一下Vernor Vinge的时候了,那个都快十年了。当时还是在Palm上看的,呵呵。 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 45 那个Vinge拼成 Qeng Ho (坑猴),很要命的。
还有一个作家叫China Mieville的,呵呵。 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 46 Vinge 写的东西有时候是很难翻。他退休前是UCSD的计算机系教授。 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 47 这个郑和写成Qeng Ho,坑爹呀。郑和拼音是Zheng He,威妥玛拼音是Cheng Ho,那个
Vinge非要来一个Qeng Ho, 估计把ch' = q 的规则乱套,结果搞出一个Qeng Ho。
用郑和显得更Alien一些? |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 48 那个一就是什么Patrik O'Brian,Asimov,Neal Stephenson,Orson Scott Card,
Vernor Vinge,William Gibson,Poul Anderson等等genre作家
Non-fiction就太多了,好像是每年出版的non-fiction远远多于fiction……
性质 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 49 来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 两天里:神 所以Vernor Vinge的世界里,光速在不同区域是不同的。 |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 50 科学家,写科幻的,又名的也只有Gregory Benford还有那个Vernor Vinge吧。畅销书
支持研究恐怕不够,还是要会忽悠政府funding重要。会写小说的忽悠政府funding还不
是跟玩似的…… |
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