b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 1 今天才突然意识到，这个星期是NABC。这个桥牌版居然没人感兴趣？
现在BBO Vugraph增加了voice功能，比枯燥的文字评论生动多了。 |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 2 just click the vugraph theater button. Usually the button displays
the name of event when a vugraph event is going on. Good luck and see you
there. |
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j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 3 Vugraph Theatre is the right place to go.
There will be a scrolling text like "live vugraph broadcast" when there is a
live match going on. |
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w****b
发帖数: 623 | 5 on bbo (bridge base on line) in an hour (1 or 1:30pm EST). It's No.17 seed
Pavelicek vs. No. 2, the powerful Nickell squad. Rates to have good actions... |
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w****n
发帖数: 241 | 6 how to watch?
I went to the Vugraph Threater
but didn't see info about World Champion Cup
tomorrow |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 8 All people on my black list are self-claimed experts. I am very tolerant to
people who are novices and claim they are novices. Self-claimed experts who
play worse than novices are the worst kind. They typically also try to
accuse partners for the mistakes they made. Unfortunately this list has gone
extremely long these days.
I think BBO is a fair platform for set games (and for vugraph). But it is
really a horrible place for people trying to learn and advance. I personally
learned the game on ok |
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f******e
发帖数: 465 | 9 http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16
If you would like to watch the Chinese + Chinese American team (Meng Kang,
Shaolin Sun, Xiaodong Shi, Jiang Gu, Jian-Jian Wang, Hailong Ao) on vugraph,
you might want to vote for it at the above webpage.
Cheers |
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p*********6
发帖数: 679 | 10 >>最后结果是Fleisher赢4个IMP
The final score was later corrected from 120/116 to 126/115. There was a
Vugraph recording error on the bd#25 in the CR of the 4th set:3nt-2 was
recorded to 2nt+2. Then imp changed from +1 for GRUE to +6 for FLEISHER.
As for the 7d hand, one room doubled to gain 2imp (vs no X) for FLEISHER.
When seeing the X, one commendator said if FLEISHER won by 2, Curtis Cheek
would suicide for his sportsmanlike behavior (not trying to X). |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 11 How could you guys watch vugraph in working hours? :-) |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 12 I didn't watch any vugraph! |
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p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 13 评牌谁都可以评，但是要评对了不容易。高手的很多貌似很愚昧的错误是有其内在逻辑
的。其实在bbo上做vugraph也都有这些问题，很多时候双明手和单明手是非常不同的。
好的解说通常是设身处地，才会明白为什么会发生这些故事。这种思路其实在牌桌上也
很有用，如果都能设身处地的给对手下套，那他们就更容易钻进去。 |
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a****s
发帖数: 524 | 14 靠，连上BBO，进不去Vugraph room |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 17 Maybe that is their agreement? It beats the contract, that is most important. :-) |
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j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 18 狗屎运吧？哈哈
按说SA忍让比较好。。。
important. :-) |
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j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 20 万一同伴没找到CA进手呢？；-）
根据叫牌单张可能实在微小 |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 21 明手单张ＤＡ，不可能找不到ＣＡ进手。。。
庄家和明手都叫过黑桃，５－４配还是有可能的。 |
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j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 22 lol, 忘了DA在明手。。。
P 1H
2C 2D
2S 3S
4H
5-4配还是蛮微小滴 |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 23 2S和3S叫品本身可能不保证张数，但也不排除是实套。从西家的角度，庄家有可能是
4522牌型，叫牌过程一样。而且同伴在这种序列下首攻黑桃，是有些奇怪的首攻。如果
旁门没有进手，可能概率打法是忍让，但拿了CA，就没这个必要了，单张和双张都可以
兼顾。总之西家的防守是合理的。 |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 27 You guys already figured out almost everything!
pd does have D J9xx. Declarer has HAQx, but as you guys analyzed, this is
not important.
The fact is that pd has every weak hand, you have possible entry and long
club. No one likes to discard the long club at this situation. This hand is
from a Vugraph. West at both tables discarded a spade, which is obviously
wrong according to JO :)
The commentator said it is "obvious" to discard a heart, since declarer
could not figure out the layout. It is not... 阅读全帖 |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 28 It is pointless to discuss those novice play, unless for fun.
This is from VuGraph, so it won't be that bad.
as |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 29 也许首攻方希望同伴能梅花将吃，然后回方块。但这根本不可能。同伴梅花空门的话肯
定会加倍。我觉得这手牌从叫牌到打牌都存在问题，有时候VuGraph也未必水平很高，
要看是什么比赛。 |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 30 IMP, both white. High level players.
QJ9
AK87
Q82
T97 |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 32 So you think there is no other chance, but rely on the diamond guess? |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 33 There are other chances, but playing for those chances will cost you an
entry in dummy, and in the end you still need diamond card placed in your
favor. |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 34 I think I was asking if it is possible to combine other chance with diamond
guess, or delay diamond guess so you have better idea.
If you play diamond to 8 or Q, the outcome is already determined. Even if
LHO started with diamond Jx or Kx (and played low), you will still choose to
finesse later since that is the percentage play. |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 35 Playing diamond to Q is inferior. Compared with playing to 8, you lose the
case where RHO has KJxx.
Diamond to 8 will win any time LHO has DJ, or RHO has both K and J.
You can play HK first and maybe set up 4th heart. But in order to cash it,
you still need to guess diamonds (and you won't be able to guess right if
RHO has both K and J). Against strong opponents, you won't have a real clue
on who has what, so in that sense, the outcome is also already determined,
even if double-dummy you could h... 阅读全帖 |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 36 I had thought Q or 8 is a pure guess. It is nice to point out that the D8
is better to take care of KJxx in RHO.
What is in my mind is to play a heart, LHO plays HT, dummy ducks and RHO
discards a spade. Now we have 10 tricks. The only return for LHO is a heart.
Do you think this improves or hurts the chance?
clue |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 37 I assume you have unblocked H9. Now the contract is cold if you can see the
hands. Playing DA then low D will guarantee the contract when LHO has either
Kx, Jx, KJ in diamonds; if RHO starts with KJxx you will have to play a
diamond from dummy then low in your hand. Technically the two lines have
very similar chances.
You should probably ask about opp's agreement on Michaels. If they play "
split-range" then highly likely LHO has one diamond honor, so just play DA
then low D. |
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i****e
发帖数: 642 | 38 Once we know LHO has 2 diamonds, we can play DA and small, avoiding the
guess I really hate. It will fail if both DKJ are at RHO.
LHO actually has DJx. So your careful play to D8 will succeed, and will
score easy 12 tricks by squeezing LHO in majors.
The declarer at the table unfortunately played D to Q, and later finesse DJ
for down 1.
the
either |
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b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 39 All these lines are pretty close. D to Q is also reasonable, any time LHO
has DK it guarantees the contract, it also makes in most cases where RHO has
both DK and DJ. Technically it is slightly inferior than playing to D8, but
almost negligible. In the end it is just about guessing which diamond card
does LHO hold. |
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p*********6
发帖数: 679 | 40 世界桥牌奥林匹克（15th World Bridge Games）下星期在波兰Wroclaw开始了（9/3-9/
17）。科大校友会会员新建的桥牌群有去Wroclaw的国手张邦祥，杨立新（都是科大85
级的）。张大师还探头说了几句，他又拉来杨大师。说不定，比赛期间他们时不时会上
来讲几句感想点评之类...那看着BBO Vugraph就更有点意思了。那群已经过了100人了
，你若想入，可找你已经在群里的朋友，也可私信我拉你（限老ID ）。看了看群规，
非科大校友好像也能入（Group Notice:本群是科大校友生活娱乐交流群，请大家把群
昵称改为实名+班级+常驻地，最好加上工作单位。非科大校友请在三天内做自我介绍并
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