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发帖数: 2651 | 1 Source:
http://it.tom.com/network/241155/764823286188b.shtml
2012年11月6日，博科今天宣布将以全现金交易形式收购私人企业Vyatta。Vyatta
总部设在加州贝尔蒙特，并凭借其基于软件的网络操作系统成为网络行业创新者，该系
统对于网络虚拟化、软件定义网络(SDN)和私有云、公共云计算平台中的多种应用有着
重大意义。博科预计在今年年底之前完成收购。
博科首席执行官Mike Klayko表示：“此次收购进一步完善了我们对以太网架构和
SDN的研发投资，进一步推动了我们在广泛行业级和解决方案级合作伙伴关系，让博科
能够在数据中心虚拟化、公有云、企业虚拟私有云和管理服务方面追求新的市场机会。
我们通过此次战略收购巩固了‘建立与合作’方面的努力，本次收购目标就是使博科成
为软件网络领域的创新和领导厂商。”
Vyatta产品正在出货期，可以开发为物理、虚拟和云网络环境提供先进路由、安全
性和VPN功能的下一代按需网络操作系统。Vyatta率先开发了业内首个也是唯一一个独
立平台网络操作系统——Vyatta网络操作系统。该操作系统让... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 2 http://www.vyatta.com/
The idea is not new at all, but Vyatta is claiming is that its software
running on a out-of-shelf PC has better performance than Cisco ISRs.
It has most critical features a small to medium enterprise edge box would need, routing protocols, firewalling, site2site and remote access VPN (especially GRE/IPsec), IPS/IDS, VoIP, QoS etc. I highly doubt that it can compete with Cisco ISR in terms of performance,IOS is purposely built for fast-switching packets after all, besides I |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 3 某些方面性能超过ISR没啥奇怪的，毕竟ISR本来就是低端router。但是像你说的，ISR
在很多情况打开feature后，performance还可以差不多，俺比较怀疑vyatta也能这样，
毕竟CPU based设备在这方面本身就有trade off，feature可以很容易加，但是性能就
不好说了
need, routing protocols, firewalling, site2site and remote access VPN (
especially GRE/IPsec), IPS/IDS, VoIP, QoS etc. I highly doubt that it can
compete with Cisco ISR in terms
with Cisco's ASA/ISRs, main features we will be using is GRE/IPsec with
OSPF on top of it, remote access VPN, IPS, SIP gateway/SBC. If this software
does what Vyatta cl |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 4 even in low end market, Vyatta cannot compete with Adtran. To me, Vyatta can
survive by either OEM or SDN, then at certain point, somebody would buy it
. So, aquired by Brocade is really the best for this company. The reason is
simple, it sounds stupid, but it's very true, and I believe it. That is, the
market needs only 3 companies. All others are just 打酱油的。
As for Internet routers, I would call CRS, GSR, ASR 9K Internet routers. or
equivalents from Juniper.
source
x86
9,
Points |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 5 vyatta has no future if it doesn't focus on SDN.
which product from brocade does Internet core routing? |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 6 I agree that Vyatta is a tiny fish, it started with repackaging open-source
network software (routing/security/vpn) and make them run on commercial x86
servers, the idea is good and it works, it has customers because not every
one can afford (is willing to) to pay premium to get Cisco gears.
Regarding Brocade box that can do Internet core routing, From Brocade
website:
"The groundbreaking Brocade MLXe router leverages the technology of six
generations of highly resilient service provider routers... 阅读全帖 |
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a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | 7 That's probably a fire sale for Vyatta.
And for BRCD, it gets a new fancy SDN hat
so it can ask a better price for itself. |
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i***e
发帖数: 373 | 8 有什么故事能说说么？
今天拒了Vyatta。主要原因不是钱少，当初HR就感觉很难打交道，拼命让我降低标准。
本来还以为是一个人的问题，working too hard on company's side。没料到Hiring
Manager更牛，offer的数字分文不涨，赌我会去。听朋友说过Brocade的文化不好，现
在倾向于相信了。不过这Vyatta刚被买了几个月，融合得也太快了吧。
cnn.com上25 top-paying companies，Brocade排第10，平均170K。这数字准确么？ |
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i***e
发帖数: 373 | 10 具体说是去Vyatta，去年底刚被Brocade买的。 |
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v**n
发帖数: 951 | 12 I am interested too.
please keep us posted. Thanks
software
would need, routing protocols, firewalling, site2site and remote access
VPN (especially GRE/IPsec), IPS/IDS, VoIP, QoS etc. I highly doubt that
it can compete with Cisco ISR in terms of performance,IOS is purposely
built for fast-switching packets after all, besides IPsec
encryption/decryption will eat up a lot of CPU cycles if there is no
separate module takes the load off CPU. Of course, feature richness
wise, it does not co: me eve |
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l***y
发帖数: 791 | 13 High performance for certain things, but only in certain scenarios. Not as
feature rich. Of course, if you're exactly those scenarios, and know a thing
or two about iptables, and like to tinker with opensource, then why not?
need, routing protocols, firewalling, site2site and remote access VPN (
especially GRE/IPsec), IPS/IDS, VoIP, QoS etc. I highly doubt that it can
compete with Cisco ISR in terms of performance,IOS is purposely built for
fast-switching packets after all, besides IPsec encryp |
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c*a
发帖数: 806 | 14 做做router reflector还可以，反正都是redundant
ISR
software |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 15 route reflector主要一般没有traffic，就是control plane的东西，所以你说的对，
做RR应该可以，就是不知道可靠性如何，即使是redundant，但是一旦用到RR的地方，
一般都是比较大的网络，不知道大家对两台pc放心否，呵呵 |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 16 Press release says it is a SDN/network virtualization related acquisition,
but I think it is more of an end-to-end solution related acquisition to
Brocade. With this acquisition, Brocade now has complete pro folio of
products for Internet core routing, data center, campus, SAN, ADC, WAN,
security. |
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f*****m
发帖数: 416 | 17 不奇怪,david mayer才去了brocade |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 19 "the market needs only 3 companies. All others are just 打酱油的。"
True, but for the sake of argument, when mobile handset market had 3
companies, iOS and Andriod were unheard of, look who are those 3 companies
now, and can you predict who those 3 companies will be in next 5 or 10 years?
can
it
is
the
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t*******r
发帖数: 3271 | 20 MLXe能做core router? 洗洗睡吧~ |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 21 Why not? at least Brocade claims it can do Internet core routing, Please
share your thoughts with me and others so everybody can learn. To me, the
box is designed to be carrier grade, it can hold 1M routes, does forwarding
in line rate, has solid BGP implementation, has decent MPLS implementation,
I am sure it can fit some providers bill. |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 22 in mobile world, it's still very messy now, so the 3 would be android, iOS,
and wp8, all the other webos, blackberry would be 打酱油的
3-company rule is more realistic for a mature market
years? |
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n**********l
发帖数: 271 | 23 I read AMS-IX, LINX, Equinix, HE, AOL and Limelight are using Brocade (XMR/
MLX).
lol ALU is considered as 打酱油的? |
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 24 I want to support your claim, but the way XMR/MLX is deployed in Internet
Exchanges is not really considered as a core-router role, it is used to
construct high-density/high performance L2 fabric (native L2 and MPLS L2VPN) |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 25 in internet core space? yes |
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v**n
发帖数: 951 | 26 again, this is not SDN, either. |
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 27 Plenty nowadays.
Pure software like Vyatta's virtual router.
Hardware appliance like Fortinet's firewalls.
Bunches of startups working on virtual appliances with Intel DPDK being the
enabling technology. |
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a*****a
发帖数: 1429 | 28 你也太猛了吧，有志做系统管理员？最强大的当然是Cisco之类。Vyatta什么的也强大
得可以。问题是你打算花多少时间学习，管理和配置？ |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 29 俺在那里是明确表示不欢迎家庭网络的，但是无奈还是有不少人去问。不过也没有大部
分，占10%左右吧，一般也处于没有人回答的状态。还有10%左右是灌水文章，80%谈的
基本上都是切题的东西，其实并不高远，都是那个版的人每天接触的东西。每天接触动
辄几万几十万甚至上百万美金一台设备的人，他不会认为openwrt能组一个真正意义上
的网络。linux能干很多事情，也得硬件跟得上，否则也没有能力支持那么多feature，
cisco ios xr也是基于类linux, ios xe和nx-os都是基于linux，juniper junos也是基
于bsd，等等。免费的Vyatta也是跑在linux上，关键这些东西能支持的feature，跟
openwrt比是天上地下，你说用openwrt能学到什么东西，如果你是seriously要学习网
络的话。
另外你说dynamips是模拟器怎么怎么，你要是用过dynamips就知道了，之所以俺推荐it
，是因为dynamips可以跑真正的ios，然后你可以login每台router，你根本就不知道是
跑在模拟器上的。 |
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z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 30 你这个人真是死不认错型啊，就你贴的这几个标题，其中6个跟家庭网络无关，如果算
上回帖，跟家庭网络有关的更少了，一般人问这类问题，都没人搭理。而且你就拿10个
帖子说事儿，也属于钻牛角尖的做法，能当统计数据吗？不说去查查从开始到现在，你
也得查查最近一个月啊。
说实话俺在emergingnetworking版外面很少愿意谈论网络有关的东西，怕就遇到跟一些
人讨论network 101之类的问题。还扯什么linux版就谈论openwrt，靠，你怎么不谈论
ios xe, nx-os, big-ip os等等？无非就是不懂呗，还非得坚持个openwrt多么牛逼，
简直可笑。openwrt能干什么呀？你跟上面几个os比一比，都是linux based。不说上面
几个，就是免费的vyatta也比openwrt强几万倍。还什么搞internet backbone的，都自
然知道dynamips，这都哪儿跟哪儿啊。internet backbone router上跑的code，
dynamips一个都跑不了，只能跑一些低端的cisco router code，比如ISR和7200之类，
不过就这些，... 阅读全帖 |
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