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l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - Holder's Just-Us Department under Fire
By Clarice Feldman
Whether he resigns or is removed or spends the rest of this year responding
to Congressional inquiries, Attorney general Holder has treated the
Department of Justice as a partisan arm of the Obama Administration. Now
and for the foreseeable future he is just another Albatross around Obama's
neck.
Fast and Furious
Let's review the case against Eric Holder.
In the forefront of the news is the Department's role in an operation known
as Fast & furious and his lies, obfuscation... 阅读全帖
I****s
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wiretap是一种monitor行为,而monitor的行为却不都是wiretap。
比如说,我可以说我要monitor the performance of a server,但是不可以说wiretap
the performance of a server.
但是你如果说I want to wiretap a phone. 这里就可以说I want to monitor a phone
.
懂了吗?

is
historically,
G*******h
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你这话就是歪扯胡掰了。
你是monitor这个server的performance当然不是tapping,但你如果是monitor这个
server上的数据的话那就是tapping。如果monitor一个电话机的通话内容的话就更是
tapping,同样你要是monitor这个电话机的performance的话也不是tapping。

:wiretap是一种monitor行为,而monitor的行为却不都是wiretap。
:比如说,我可以说我要monitor the performance of a server,但是不可以说
wiretap the performance of a server.
:但是你如果说I want to wiretap a phone. 这里就可以说I want to monitor a
phone.
:懂了吗?
c*c
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obama不是美国生的是事实?你把川爹的脸打得肿肿的啊,你这种sb怎么能当川粉,川
总白tm出来承认o8是美国人了
isis是希拉里缔造的,也是事实?你tm哪里看的新闻
wiretapping trump也是事实?我擦,wiretapping的都是鹅毛,trump一伙自己打电话
给俄毛被监听到,这叫wiretap trump tower? trump的原文就是wiretap trump tower
,在自己的房产里找了那么久还没找到窃听器?
d********e
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California Wiretapping Law
California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes
it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication,
including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of
all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute
applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one
of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is
listening in or overhearing the ... 阅读全帖
D**S
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rajat_gupta_surrenders_to_fb
Former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta — the most prominent name to be
caught up in Wall Street’s biggest trading scandal — was criminally
charged today with leaking inside information to convicted hedge fund boss
Raj Rajaratnam.
Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara slapped Gupta with six counts of
securities fraud as part of his massive crackdown on insider trading. Gupta
surrendered to the FBI this morning and will be arraigned ... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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Another link below:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/russ-tice-nsa-obama_n_
The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing
Posted: 06/20/2013 2:11 pm EDT | Updated: 06/20/2013 7:04 pm EDT
Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst who in 2005 blew the whistle on
what he alleged was massive unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple
agencies, claimed Wednesday that the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones
connected to then-Senate... 阅读全帖
s******r
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来自主题: Military版 - “an idiot”
转自《华盛顿邮报》原文
A complete timeline of the events behind the memo that threatens to rip D.C.
in two
Before the election
Sep. 11-12, 2012. Terrorists attack two American facilities in Benghazi,
Libya, killing four people including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.
Feb. 1, 2013. Hillary Clinton steps down as secretary of state. During her
tenure, she used a private email address for department business, hosted on
a server located at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y.
June. Carter Page, an energy industry co... 阅读全帖
k*********l
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在选的,没有人能够逃得了wiretaping这一关,除了carson,cruz都不可能有一点希望
,一个个的都是各种黑点,除非被选中做傀儡。
以后都是表面做选举,内部竞争谁够资格做傀儡,才会被选中。到处都是wiretaping,
谁控制wiretaping,谁能够选傀儡
这次trump能赢,实在是老头子天时,地利,人和,缺一不可。同时还加上自己本身纯
洁的象白莲花一样(和这些政客比),智慧,时机的掌握,关键时刻有内应,有人愿意帮
一把
从现在看最后那10月份,那真是各个妖法都使上了,wikileaks,spirit 烹饪。。。
eye opening。。。
k*********l
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在选的,没有人能够逃得了wiretaping这一关,除了carson,cruz都不可能有一点希望
,一个个的都是各种黑点,除非被选中做傀儡。
以后都是表面做选举,内部竞争谁够资格做傀儡,才会被选中。到处都是wiretaping,
谁控制wiretaping,谁能够选傀儡
这次trump能赢,实在是老头子天时,地利,人和,缺一不可。同时还加上自己本身纯
洁的象白莲花一样(和这些政客比),智慧,时机的掌握,关键时刻有内应,有人愿意帮
一把
从现在看最后那10月份,那真是各个妖法都使上了,wikileaks,spirit 烹饪。。。
eye opening。。。

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来来来,就你给的这个假设是real news, 用足你的智商回答clapper否认的是啥?
A. No wiretapping
B. No wiretapping against Trump or his campaign.
C. President trump's claims (what are they?)

:"There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the
:president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign,&#
34;
:Clapper told NBC's Chuck Todd.
:Todd pressed him to confirm or deny the President's claims. "I can
deny it," Clapper said.
:川粉的智商真是堪忧。
i**********k
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TheHill.com 描述得更完整 ‘The FBI and the DOJ declined to comment to the
Times.’
FBI Director James Comey reportedly asked the Justice Department this
weekend to publicly reject President Trump's claims that former President
Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower before the election.
Senior American officials told The New York Times on Sunday that Comey has
said the president's wiretapping allegations are not true and asked the
Justice Department on Saturday to publicly correct the record.
The report com... 阅读全帖

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Comey的反应很不正常

:TheHill.com 描述得更完整
:FBI Director James Comey reportedly asked the Justice Department this
:weekend to publicly reject President Trump's claims that former
President
:Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower before the election.
:Senior American officials told The New York Times on Sunday that Comey has
:said the president's wiretapping allegations are not true and asked
the
:Justice Department on Saturday to publicly correct the record.
:The report comes after President Trump, in a ser... 阅读全帖

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下面是华盛顿邮报 Fact Checker 的一篇文章,对于川普的指控的消息来源有非常全面
的报道,最后修订时间应当是星期一凌晨。
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/03/05/trumps-
evidence-for-obama-wiretap-claims-relies-on-sketchy-anonymously-sourced-
reports/?utm_term=.65e6ceef3fbf
文章中说,邮报曾经要求白宫提供此项指控的消息来源,白宫提供了五篇媒体报道,分
别来自 “from BBC, Heat Street, New York Times, Fox News, among others.” 在
白宫提供的五篇中,最重要的一篇来自 Heat Street 由 Louise Mensch 执笔撰写,她
是前英国保守派议员,现在是自由投稿的记者。
*** Louise Mensch
在她的报道里,她提到去年十月 FISA 批准了 FBI 针对川普竞选团队与俄国间的关系
进行情报搜集。她说 F... 阅读全帖
T**********e
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和初选时说泰德老爸参与刺杀JFK类似
Mr. Trump, advisers said, was in high spirits after he fired off the posts.
But by midafternoon, after returning from golf, he appeared to realize he
had gone too far, although he still believed Mr. Obama had wiretapped him,
according to two people in Mr. Trump’s orbit.
He sounded defiant in conversations at Mar-a-Lago with his friend
Christopher Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax Media, Mr. Ruddy said. In
other conversations that afternoon, the president sounded uncertain ... 阅读全帖
a****n
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Spicer: Trump didn't mean wiretapping when he tweeted about wiretapping
Spicer: Trump didn't mean ban when he mentioned travel ban
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-trump-wiretapping/index.html?adkey=bn
CNN也是让我醉了……
p********r
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wiretap
phone
Wrong!
是monitor还是wiretap取决于对象。
Check your wife's breast size: monitor.
Check your neighbor's wife's breast size: wiretap.

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S*******h
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Comey听证会说∶
1. No physical wiretap of Trump Tower.
2. No British intelligence involved in wiretap.
3. Possible other surveillance activities were used on Trump.
4. No evidence of Trump campaign collusion with Russia.
白宫说川普有被监听 (under suveillance),有政治力介入司法调查,要彻查谁泄
classified info
https://www.c-span.org/video/?425710-1/white-house-stands-wiretapping-claim-
despite-fbi-directors-testimony
A**d
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https://medium.com/@JackPosobiec/breaking-lynch-ordered-manaforts-phone-
tapped-during-veselnitskaya-meeting-363824284be8
Breaking: Lynch Ordered Manafort’s Phone Tapped During Veselnitskaya
Meeting
Today, Fusion GPS employee Rinat Akhmetshin today confirmed his attendance
at a meeting with Donald Trump Jr, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner along
with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
Accusations have arisen that the meeting was part of a wider setup to
achieve a FISA warrant to wiretap phone... 阅读全帖
l****y
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来自主题: USANews版 - 逗,什么时候lock him up
lock her up好像已经不喊了
lock him up喊了也有几轮了
Justice Department: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/02/politics/justice-department-trump-tower-wiretap/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/02/doj-no-evidence-trump-tower-was-wiretapped.html
l****y
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l****y
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和俄罗斯的email都被知道了,当然,不是用“听”的
文字游戏而已


: 赞川粉精神,哈哈

: Justice Department: No evidence Trump Tower was wiretapped

: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/02/politics/justice-department-trump-tower-wiretap/index.html

: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/02/doj-no-evidence-trump-tower-was-wiretapped.html

k********n
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苹果公司怎么可以让这样的事情发生?
NEW YORK (AP) -- Federal prosecutors in Manhattan broadened their insider
trading crackdown Thursday, arresting four people on charges alleging that
so-called "expert consultants" revealed secrets about Apple Inc.'s iPhone
and other technology products to hedge funds seeking a trading edge on
quarterly earnings reports.
The latest probe targeted Primary Global Research, a Mountain View, Calif.-
based firm that offered consulting services to investors on industry trends,
issues ... 阅读全帖
S*******h
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: MadDaemon (疯一样的男子), 信区: USANews
标 题: NY Times首页文章承认监听Trump
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 6 13:11:47 2017, 美东)
New York Times Confirmed Wiretaps Used Against Trump Aides...ON ITS OWN
FRONT PAGE!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/new-york-times-confirmed-wiretaps-used-15618638/
就是证明有监听罗。 昨天奥巴说没有。NYT自己写的文章,NYT昨也说Trump's claim
on wiretap is baseless.
阿都监听快半年之久了,有川总通俄罗斯大料怎不放出来,怎么还停留在猪党Pelosi跟
俄国大使吃过饭,猪党假眼泪也跟普丁吃过饭的阶段?
S*******h
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: MadDaemon (疯一样的男子), 信区: USANews
标 题: NY Times首页文章承认监听Trump
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 6 13:11:47 2017, 美东)
New York Times Confirmed Wiretaps Used Against Trump Aides...ON ITS OWN
FRONT PAGE!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/new-york-times-confirmed-wiretaps-used-15618638/
就是证明有监听罗。 昨天奥巴说没有。NYT自己写的文章,NYT昨也说Trump's claim
on wiretap is baseless.
阿都监听快半年之久了,有川总通俄罗斯大料怎不放出来,怎么还停留在猪党Pelosi跟
俄国大使吃过饭,猪党假眼泪也跟普丁吃过饭的阶段?
t******4
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The government has been secretly collecting the telephone
records of millions of U.S. customers of Verizon under a top secret court
order, according to the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. The
Obama administration defended the National Security Agency's need to
collect telephone records of U.S. citizens, but critics said it was a huge
over-reach.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said Thursday that the top secret court
order for telephone records is a three-month... 阅读全帖
s**********n
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完了, 线索又断了...
"Sources: Wiretaps don't link Milton McGregor to Auburn quarterback Cam
Newton"
Wiretaps made as part of the recent federal investigation into
vote-buying in the Alabama Legislature contain no conversations that
connect Victoryland owner Milton McGregor to quarterback Cam Newton's
recruitment to Auburn, according to multiple sources familiar with the
statehouse probe.
A TMZ.com report Wednesday said FBI agents looking into Newton's
recruitment "are also asking about Milton McGregor.... 阅读全帖
S*******h
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: MadDaemon (疯一样的男子), 信区: USANews
标 题: NY Times首页文章承认监听Trump
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 6 13:11:47 2017, 美东)
New York Times Confirmed Wiretaps Used Against Trump Aides...ON ITS OWN
FRONT PAGE!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/new-york-times-confirmed-wiretaps-used-15618638/
就是证明有监听罗。 昨天奥巴说没有。NYT自己写的文章,NYT昨也说Trump's claim
on wiretap is baseless.
阿都监听快半年之久了,有川总通俄罗斯大料怎不放出来,怎么还停留在猪党Pelosi跟
俄国大使吃过饭,猪党假眼泪也跟普丁吃过饭的阶段?
n*******s
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来自主题: Military版 - iphone用户小心了 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Apple 讨论区 】
发信人: nicetimes (nicetimes), 信区: Apple
标 题: iphone用户小心了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 4 07:23:25 2011, 美东)
AT&T, Sprint Mobile Phone Users Sue Over Carrier IQ’s Tracking Software
---
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---+
AT&T, Sprint Sued by Customers Over Carrier IQ Tracking Software
2011-12-03 05:01:01.0 GMT
By Karen Gullo
Dec. 3 (Bloomberg) -- AT&T Inc., Sprint Nextel Corp., Apple
Inc. and T-Mobile USA were sued by mobile phone ... 阅读全帖
m********3
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/10/five
By Timothy B. Lee, Updated: June 10, 2013
If recent reports are to be believed, the National Security Agency has broad
powers to capture private information about Americans. They know who we’re
calling, they have access to our Gmail messages and AOL Instant Messenger
chats, and it’s a safe bet that they have other interception capabilities
that haven’t been publicly disclosed. Indeed, most mainstream
communications technologies are ... 阅读全帖
t***h
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来自主题: Military版 - Snowden 在twitter上回答网友问题
12.43pm ET
Final question from Glenn Greenwald:
Anything else you'd like to add?
Answer:
Thanks to everyone for their support, and remember that just because you
are not the target of a surveillance program does not make it okay. The US
Person / foreigner distinction is not a reasonable substitute for
individualized suspicion, and is only applied to improve support for the
program. This is the precise reason that NSA provides Congress with a
special immunity to its surveillance.
12.41pm ET
Q... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄国赚大了!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/opinion/hayden-snowden-impact
Ex-CIA chief: What Edward Snowden did
By Michael Hayden, CNN Terrorism Analyst
updated 11:31 AM EDT, Fri July 19, 2013
Some did it for the money, some did it for idealism, others didn't do it at
all. The U.S. has seen a number of high profile leak scandals including the
Pentagon Papers during the administration of President Richard Nixon. Click
through to see more high-profile intelligence leaking cases. Some did it for
the money, some ... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 给Stockfuture贴个原文
US government is reportedly trying to force Facebook to help it wiretap
Messenger
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/us-government-is-reportedly-trying-to-force-
facebook-to-help-it-wiretap-messenger.html
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - 禁枪 vs. 更现实的控枪
指纹和标签的区别是标签会丢,指纹不会。这就是用生物特征识别的最大原因。但是生
物特征识别不可避免的有可靠性问题。如果用标签的话,一个人的枪出现在crime
scene, 他只要说枪和标签都丢了。但是指纹就不行。
Patriot act不是关于技术。没有Patriot act, wiretap必须有warrant, HBO的The
Wire描写的很清楚,必须向法官展示实在没有别的办法,必须用wiretap.
Patriot act打开可这扇大门,还允许美国公民未经审讯就无限制关在Gitmo. 所以没有
PA之前,技术不是瓶颈,法律是瓶颈。有了PA,法律不是瓶颈,技术是瓶颈。
枪和手机哪个重要? 从便利角度来说,当然是手机。但是从自由来说,显然是枪。


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t******r
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Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up
May 26, 2013 by Dylan
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-
speaks-up/
by Dr. Eowyn
In late May, Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a
bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s
Country. Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other
men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir
-director of the church in Chicago of ... 阅读全帖
i**********k
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i**********k
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i**********k
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'This is Nixon/Watergate': Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower
during campaign
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03/04/this-is-nixon-watergate-trump-
accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-tr/21873351/
i**********k
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c*****r
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来自主题: USANews版 - 奥黑歇菜
3 points have confirmed:
1) Obama ordered #WireTap of Trump Tower
2) #FISA granted warrant
3) Continued wiretap after warrant expired
第三点足够搞死奥黑+DOJ
下面就看哪个来顶锅了
i**********k
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来自主题: USANews版 - 的有多傻才会信老头没证据
Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why
Trump May Have The Last Laugh
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/obama-advisor-rhodes-wrong-president-can-order-wiretap-and-why-trump-may-have-last-l

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08卸任后没有象其他总统一样离开政坛离开华盛顿,以前以为是因为他是为他的快被废
的08Care legacy留在DC做挣扎, 现在想来有这么个大炸弹他怎么敢离开。
主流媒体三天两头拿russia说事儿又没有什么特别让人信服的证据,原来只是觉得
annoying, 现在看来不给Trump及他的团队安个里通外国,没法儿justify这个wire
tapping 
当然还有Comey选举前的扔个大炸弹又不引爆。
Wiretapping解释了我心中的很多为什么
现在我明白了:
为什么在接近大选的时候奥巴马为喜莱利站台站得那么歇斯底里。
为什么奥巴马居然在接受西班牙语台采访时要鼓励非公民投票。
为什么临下台还驱逐俄罗斯大使,
为什么下台后不停滴那俄罗斯说事。
因为喜莱利当选的话,wiretapping就会永远成迷,因为俄罗斯大使是间谍的话,川普
跟他有联系,woretapping就会合法。
这让我想起了那句话:卑鄙是卑鄙者的通行证。

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瓦西里同志不要惊慌,连"Fake News"都害怕还怎么干革命?唉


: Comey的反应很不正常

: :TheHill.com 描述得更完整

: :FBI Director James Comey reportedly asked the Justice Department
this

: :weekend to publicly reject President Trump's claims that former

: President

: :Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower before the election.

: :Senior American officials told The New York Times on Sunday that
Comey has

: :said the president's wiretapping allegations are not true and asked

: the

: :Justice Department... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: USANews版 - 人民英雄Comey再次站了出来
The FBI made the request because such wiretapping would be illegal, since
the President cannot just order the eavesdropping of a U.S. citizen's phones
, the sources said. The sources would not say who was involved in the
conversations between the FBI and DOJ or what role FBI Director James Comey
might have played.
FROM CNN
http://www.cnQn.com/2017/03/05/politics/fbi-justice-wiretapping-claim/index.html

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The FBI made the request because such wiretapping would be illegal, since
the President cannot just order the eavesdropping of a U.S. citizen's phones
, the sources said. The sources would not say who was involved in the
conversations between the FBI and DOJ or what role FBI Director James Comey
might have played.
这是摘自 CNN. 这句话是说 FBI 这样要求DOJ 否认是因为监听违法。FBI 没有说自己
没有监听。
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/fbi-justice-wiretapping-claim/index.html

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来自主题: USANews版 - 你妈, comey否的原来是这个
CNN
FBI 要DOJ 否认 TRump的 “OBAMA下令监听”说法。
(CNN)The FBI asked the Justice Department on Saturday to refute President
Donald Trump's assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping
of Trump's phones last year, two sources with knowledge of the situation
told CNN.
The FBI made the request because such wiretapping would be illegal, since
the President cannot just order the eavesdropping of a U.S. citizen's phones
, the sources said. The sources would not say who was involved in the
convers... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - 给大家转个笑话: NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-
investigation.html
...One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped
communications had been provided to the White House...
A version of this article appears in print on January 20, 2017, on Page A1
of the New York edition with the headline: Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry
of Trump Aides.
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来自主题: USANews版 - NY Times首页文章承认监听Trump
New York Times Confirmed Wiretaps Used Against Trump Aides...ON ITS OWN
FRONT PAGE!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/new-york-times-confirmed-wiretaps-used-15618638/
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