c*******n
发帖数: 300 | 1 2006年年底，西北nuin的director不做了。接下来diector和assoicated director都重
新进行了推荐和选举。 2007年年底，饶毅才离开西北。
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j**********k
发帖数: 296 | 4 support lz. plus, if his so-called "scandal" is not scientific misconduct,
who cares? don't bring personal issues into business, go get a life
of
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L******e
发帖数: 679 | 5 Please Do NOT argue with our SUPERNIU: Mr. lmh. He knows everything!
faint,你这不是故意扇超级大牛lmh的大耳光嘛？
超级大牛lmh说了， 临床检验员薪水就是4万多，
说出别的数字都是瞎掰 |
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d********r
发帖数: 3279 | 7 If you guys know who lmh is, you would not be surprised why he knows so much
about misconduct. He himself was asked to voluntarily resign or being
expelled for misconduct. He didn't even get a one-year
adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. his shameful incident
prevented him from getting a faculty position in a reputable university for
in the U.S.
I won't go into details. But lmh knows what I am talking about. |
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V*f
发帖数: 171 | 10 "大家都说要尽量选外国老板，或者说避开中国老板"
这个assumption 太有问题了。我统计了一下近一两年的Helen Hay, Damon Runyon,
Life Science Research Foundation这些博后fellowship的来自中国的获得者，发现很
大一部分graduate school都是来自中国老板实验室，这个说明中国老板培养中国学生绝对
是above average的，有人品好的有潜力的中国老板，一定不要错过！下面是这些来自
中国老板实验室的postdoc fellowship获得者的名单，括号内为graduate school advisor：
Helen Hay: Yu Chen (Yigong Shi) Dengke Ma (Hongjun Song)
Damon Runyon: Xu Tan (Ning Zheng), Jianfu Chen (Dazhi Wang), Dong Yan (
Xinhua Lin)
Life Science: Xin Duan (Hongjun Song) |
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y****o
发帖数: 44 | 11 非常同意
SHI YIGONG和RAO YI混的不错了吧，在美国照样不是属于分赃的人，而是等着别人给分
点脏的人。他们两个本指望回国能当分赃的人，结果发现还是等别人分，能不火大吗，
什么体制不过是借口，就像延安喊民主一样
如果这一点看不透，这辈子就当安心过小日子，不要想出头了 |
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发帖数: 1852 | 12 【 以下文字转载自 Returnee 讨论区 】
发信人: dajiamajia (打架专用马甲), 信区: Returnee
标 题: 中国科学的自信和自省：前途乐观 改革渐进【转载】
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 15 14:14:24 2011, 美东)
饶毅博文，长，有料，真想了解国内学术界状况的可以细读。
http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=404699
学者饶毅 发表于2011-1-15 11:20:22
中国科学的自信和自省：前途乐观 改革渐进
对于中国科学的发展，从体制到文化，我在国外开始写文章，迄今至少8年、参与文章超
过14篇。
这些文章总的看法是：自信和自省。
对中国科学发展的前途比较乐观，对科学的体制和机制认为需要温和的渐进改革，通过
较长时间和多方面努力改善中国科学界的文化。
对于中国科学前途的态度，2002年 “中国科学：显著的发展和严峻的挑战一文
”就很明确，在回顾中国生命科学自从1920年代以来的一些基础科学研究，得出乐观的
预计。近年的发展支持此预计。在中... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 33 | 13 Yigong是想改变目前国内的科研文化。的确，国内现在作科研太浮躁了。好的工作要静
下心来，才能十年铸剑。
希望清华北大NIBS能成为国内Bio科研的希望。 |
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z*******o
发帖数: 1794 | 14 re
yigong要是不拉关系，或者说不走人情路线，就不会办下面两件事：
1，过年的时候给北京各大高校bio掌柜和大佬写贺卡，上面还有亲笔签名，别说自己不
知道这个事情哈。
2，去年5月参加Nature，Science editor及一票大牛去北京游玩的欢迎晚宴，这个是叫
social network么？
拉关系并不是坏事，只有有货，还是让人尊重的。 |
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a***s
发帖数: 33 | 15 国内招人非常尴尬，就像清华这样的学校也很难招到得力的Postdoc，Techician的薪水
也很低，难找到好的。
学生是不错，但是前期肯定要花大力气training，清华的Fresh AP自己干三年肯定不可
避免。
这篇文章是Yigong写给清华Junior AP的，很多情况没办法和国外比。 |
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c****l
发帖数: 1086 | 16 普林斯顿这个offer也太容易给了，就一轮interview就决定了嘛，
我们这里都是起码两轮interview，第一轮public presentation，第二轮chalk talk，
第一轮很简单，因为就是讲自己的project，而且有充足的准备。很多人都栽在第二轮
上，因为是面对searching committee，没有事先准备的ppt，就是一支笔，一块黑板来
侃侃而谈自己将来的plan，同时随时要回答提问，这就比一个准备好的public
presentation难多了。
不知道如果普林斯顿也是如此面试的话，不知Yigong Shi能否拿到这个offer |
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c****l
发帖数: 1086 | 17 my second point,
我对Yigong Shi这篇文章的基调只是整个停留在“secure job” 非常的失望，诚然这
可能是绝大多数AP头几年的中心，但Shi作为一个功成名就的PI，其文章的立意仍然停
留在“get tenure”这个“利”上，而没有提高到“做开创性的工作”的高度，就不得
不让人怀疑其做science的动机，到底是“发paper”，“争强好胜”，还是对“
science和未知事物的好奇感”， 从Shi的研究，其career和其文章来看，我只看到前
两者。我并不怀疑Shi可以很好的解决已知领域里，或是说“现有的科学范式”中的一
些难题，可以比较容易的在CNS上灌水，但我深度怀疑其是否具有开展开创性研究工作
的视野和能力。这个从其整篇文章的“比较不自信”的基调来看，也得到了一定的辅证。 |
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s******r
发帖数: 2876 | 18 是吗，很多地方第二天就是Chalk Talk。
第二轮就是讨价还价了。
普林斯顿这个offer也太容易给了，就一轮interview就决定了嘛，
我们这里都是起码两轮interview，第一轮public presentation，第二轮chalk talk，
第一轮很简单，因为就是讲自己的project，而且有充足的准备。很多人都栽在第二轮
上，因为是面对searching committee，没有事先准备的ppt，就是一支笔，一块黑板来
侃侃而谈自己将来的plan，同时随时要回答提问，这就比一个准备好的public
presentation难多了。
不知道如果普林斯顿也是如此面试的话，不知Yigong Shi能否拿到这个offer |
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r****n
发帖数: 163 | 19 being able to take advantage is a very important qualification. Apparently
you do not pocess that. BTW, i do not think Shi Yigong is taking advantage
of the field as a "paper machine" or "money machine" as you claimed.
Again, if you are such a big bull and such a visionary, you should prove
yourself and persuade funding agencies to stop funding. Much better effect
than being bitter and barking around.
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r****n
发帖数: 163 | 20 well, i am not sure about that. Guess most people only witness you being
picky at others, LOL.
Most of your comments about Shi Yigong are straightly negative, which makes
it hard to believe that you are simply being picky as a scientist. If you
look down at Shi's scientific achievements this much, why don't you do
something better than his? Or maybe you can simply persuade the funding
agencies in US and China to stop funding this type of "meaningless" research
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d*****r
发帖数: 2583 | 21 I would like to M your comment this time, :)
This Duke mm is just a better/more acceptable version of 粟耀莹, if we
extend this idea more broadly like some people on this board do(e.g.,
chugol), you can even consider Shi Yigong as a much better/more acceptable
example of this model.
This model will generate many successful people: white collar, middle
class, mid-high pay, lawyers, doctors, HHMI professors, etc; but it's
unlikely that it will generate Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Einstein,
Feymann,... 阅读全帖 |
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e**r
发帖数: 1144 | 23 挂职的不算
像xd wang， yigong shi这样搬回去的hhmi还有哪些？ |
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c****n
发帖数: 1108 | 24 Yigong Shi
Yi Rao
Xiaodong Wang
Xiaoliang Xie
咋排序？ |
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C******r
发帖数: 790 | 25 LOL，请给橘子苹果香蕉排个序，谁最好吃
论CNS灌水，当然YG Shi排第一，这个饶毅已经下了定论：目前全球华人科学家CNS灌水
无出
Yigong Shi之右。
论业内知名度，XD Wang应该还是更胜一筹吧。 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 26 按最好的文章被引用次数排序：
Xiaodong Wang： 4464
yigong shi： 2103
yi rao: 339
xiaoliang xie: 39 |
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发帖数: 89 | 27 上面谈到的个人感觉 Xiaodong(HHMI, NAS)>Sunney(AAAS Fellow,E.O. Lawrence
Award ）==Xiaowei(HHMI, Max Delbruck Prize,天才奖)>Yigong(CNS多）>Yi
其他牛的不是很多吗？Liqun Luo很牛 |
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d*****r
发帖数: 2583 | 28 oh...
is this true every univ in China?
so that means even you got a faculty position in Tsinghua with 20W/y, it
won't last long, because 事业编制 has a cap on your salary?
How does Shi Yigong resolve this issue? his 事业编制 has a much higher cap?
salary |
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s**u
发帖数: 9035 | 29 Shi Yigong has very higher salary, I know, But most people(associate
professor or full professor) has only 20% of Shi's income. |
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g*********r
发帖数: 9366 | 30 you don't know the situation
shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors ,
the 22 century is .......'s century
also it is hard for bio undergraduate students to get real jobs. so many of
them just go for graduate school
so many robot candidate,
do not worry ! |
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P******t
发帖数: 1717 | 31 ask grasshopper "shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors"
you didn't question his evidence, and made statement "第三我不觉
得谁说句话就能忽悠谁去干什么，11公也不是毛泽东希特勒，真要是这样就懵懂的去学
了然后后悔 这个要去怪自己 18岁成年人了"
Similar as you, I didn't question his evidence either. And I was just
attacking the logic of your statement. You don't mess up the concept. Now,
you are asking evidence. You should ask grasshopper. The evidence is not my
job. |
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P******t
发帖数: 1717 | 33 finally watched this video today
Yigong Shi is such a brassy scum. No matter how many CNS he publishes, he
has no morality and is just an ass kisser+liar.
Shi said some bio-school graduates from THU became surgeons in the U.S.. Jeez, they must had to enter medical school for an MD degree first since THU bio-school cannot issue BM. He really dares to brag. |
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s**********e
发帖数: 2888 | 34 Sorry to type in English, office computer.
Did Yigong's lab produce any faculty in USA?
I think this is a very important standard to evaluate a lab, besides
publications. |
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p******n
发帖数: 55 | 35 "第一流"的人物还真没少来, 数数光是院士就来了多少
且不算那几位尚年轻的和在欧洲的
而且哪个位面的Patel是施一公的导师?
最后饶子和是给了面子来了的, 第二天出席了典礼, 第三天给了talk
Nieng Yan
Xinquan Wang
Jiawei Wu
Maojun Yang
Senfang Sui
Hongwei Wang
Jijie Chai
Yigong Shi (Tsinghua)
Yunyu Shi (USTC)
Z. H. Zhou (UCLA)
Jianhua He (SSRF)
Robert Sauer (MIT)
Weitao Yang (Duke)
Seth Darst (Rockefeller)
Brian Kobilka (Stanford)
Angel Garcia (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute)
Poul Nissen (University of Aarhus, Denmark)
Jianpeng Ma (Baylor)
Dinshaw Patel (Sloan)
Wei Yang (NIH)
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a**o
发帖数: 20 | 36 说大部分人嫉妒，应该是这么回事
就如同中国足球运动员说c罗和梅西的某些动作不到位一样，虽然说的
确实那么一回事，不是不能评价，但是给人的就是嫉妒的感觉，嘿嘿 |
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D******y
发帖数: 723 | 37 这话说的，就好比我去餐馆吃饭还不能评厨子好坏一样 |
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z*******o
发帖数: 1794 | 38 很好奇大家这个一流二流是拿什么评的？看paper还是看title？ |
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g*********r
发帖数: 9366 | 41 施一宫同学在学术上就是一流的，这个是不可否认的
至于别人能否评论， 我觉着能， 连诺贝尔奖得主别人也可以评论，为何一宫同学就不
能被评论？
但是我现在不仅仅不嫉妒他，甚至很讨厌他回国内瞎搞忽悠 |
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a******g
发帖数: 129 | 42 有些东西上瘾了，不好介亚。yigong追潮流太狠了，从早年的tgf beta,到apotosis到
现在的膜蛋白,概莫能外。 |
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发帖数: 334 | 45 Even so, most Chinese PhD holders can
find a job at home: China’s booming economy
and capacity building has absorbed them into
the workforce. “Relatively speaking, it is a
lot easier to find a position in academia in
China compared with the United States,” says
Yigong Shi, a structural biologist at Tsinghua
University in Beijing, and the same is true in
industry. |
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 46 难道不是SYG比Eric牛？yigong的CNS比Eric多啊，引用也比Eric多很多啊？
等结构牛人详解。 |
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h********n
发帖数: 4079 | 47 ning zheng 跟 yigong shi 师出同门 |
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h********n
发帖数: 4079 | 48 ning zheng 跟 yigong shi 师出同门 |
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发帖数: 19 | 49 WELL, that's because you heard that from some non-structural biologists.
They are jealous and therefore their opinions are biased.
For one thing I agree with you: Structural biology, as with other fields in
biology, employs cheap labor. But just like any other disciplines,
hardworking (or so call cheap labor), creativity, luck are all important
ingredients. One factor key to Yigong's remarkable success is that he and
his disciples know where to dig gold. His guerrillas-style strategy has
be... 阅读全帖 |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 50 其中两位已经是院士了。晓东的确威武。h-index最高的是兴旺。最低调的好像是顾伟。Sunney做的领域可能不如其他四位容易被引用。一公应该是最年轻的。另外，朱健康的引用非常可能也过万了，不过ISI对ZHU J作者的分类做的不好，故此没有列上。
其他做虫子，果蝇等模式生物的，引用超过四千的就很不错了。
Wei Gu
找到的结果数: 84
被引频次总计[?] : 10,818
查看施引文献
查看去除自引的引文报告
每项平均引用次数[?] : 128.79
h-index [?] : 43
Xingwang Deng
找到的结果数: 209
被引频次总计[?] : 11,347
查看施引文献
查看去除自引的引文报告
每项平均引用次数[?] : 54.29
h-index [?] : 63
X. Sunney Xie
找到的结果数: 158
被引频次总计[?] : 11,017
查看施引文献
查看去除自引的引文报告
每项平均引用次数[?] : 69.73
h-index [?] : 59
Yigo... 阅读全帖 |
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