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m****t
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 请问Greg Z65/55 登机都有问题嘛?
Z55没问题,我背着上过n次飞机,除了它你再带个小包都没问题,Z55就相当于是登机
箱了,不过注意登山杖是不能带上飞机的。
不要买Z65,Z系列的背负45-55L正好,再大了背负不够用。
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 大家帮我从这四个包里选一个
buy whichever fits you best
if all fit you, go for Z65
I really doubt you need a Z65, I am using Z55, it is big enough for
backpacking
g**********a
发帖数: 222
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 大家帮我从这四个包里选一个
前面发了个贴,里面的前辈建议我买osprey和grygory的60L左右的包。
1.Osprey Atmos 65 ($239.00)
http://www.rei.com/product/780217
2.Gregory Z65 ($239.00)
http://www.rei.com/product/773915
3.High Sierra Sentinal 65 ($109.93 比较便宜)
http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/760600
4.Alps Mountaineering Mojave ($89.93 会不会太大?)
http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/782944
买哪个好呢?
Y****6
发帖数: 1235
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 大家帮我从这四个包里选一个
hand, I will pick Z65 too. but even Z55 is still too big for me, that's why
I pick up the Osprey Talon 44.
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 大家帮我从这四个包里选一个
哪个背的舒服买哪个。74升实在太大了,新手不大可能用得上。如果背的感觉差不多,
我会选gregory z65 (if you can find a z55, go for it)
d*********e
发帖数: 3835
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 大家帮我从这四个包里选一个
z65
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
looks good, 65L and weigh 3b 14oz
kind of on sale
REI got 20% off coupon now
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
Golite quest still my favorite, really miss the deal that i wasn't able to
catch, $18! :(
Golite quest only weighs 2b 12oz, 62L
p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
Lighter pack usually means less support, and sometimes can be really
uncomfortable.
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
这个是男生版,女生买jade 50就好了
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
这个包背负系统太差,用作overnight&multi-day backpacking很不舒服
适合爬1day Alpine rock用
n*****a
发帖数: 1327
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
Just for your reference, for a 62L pack, if well packed, it can easily go 45
-50lbs. At this weight, I won't mind have 1 or 2 lbs extra for the pack if
it really much more comfortable.
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
it says unisex though
anyway, all the posts have pretty good valid points in terms of supporting
system.
i'll think twice or more :D
thank you.
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
my current pack is a mountain smith scarlet, i think it weighs 4 1bs 7oz,
with 50L volume. :D perhaps this is a right pack for me for a while.
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
If your current pack works for you well, I don't see the point to get a new
one.
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
i was just thinking it's kind of heavy (4 1bs something), and small (only
50L).
but before i can use a pack with 65L of volume, i think i have a long way to
go with other lighter backpacking gears, otherwise it will well beyond my
carrying capacity, if it is packed full.
people like my build, should go for the idea of "ultra-light backpacking",
however, for now, i guess i should work on other aspect first, before
thinking about getting a bigger and lighter pack. other replies have a very
valid p
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
gear selection is a big thing
first of all, you really need to know better what you are doing to select
the right and necessary gears, and leave unnecessary gears at home.Just go
for more trips with different ppl,you'll find different opinions and have
chance to see all kinds of gears. Try them in real trips.
then from this point, you replace your bulky gears with lighter ones. if you
have money, buy whatever you want, weight metters. but in real life, most
people only have limited resource(mone
M*****t
发帖数: 26706
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
我不太喜欢他家的包,里面的隔间太少,外面挂件也不多。我有个55的。
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
yeah, a serious research topic, too. but it has so much more fun.haha

you
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
sure it is fun. it is a part of outdoors, isn't it?
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
如果50L你还觉得小,那只能说你不会打包。
我有一个35L的包,overnight trip的东西都可以装进去,
我现在用它爬几乎所有的multi-day tech climb。
如果将来我要搞winter mountaineering或者超过三天的climb,
我或许会用大一些的包,但那是因为带的东西更多,负重也更大,
比如超过40lbs,35L的包估计承受不了这么大的负重。
50L的包如果背负系统合适,装45lbs没有问题。

to
very
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
yeah, i realize i need more compression bags, haha. those are great.
i am sure i can learn to pack for 3 nights backpacking with this 50L pack
soon, in fact i have one trip coming up the end of this month, so gotta get
ready for that.
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
订了一个这个,忘了看性别,只注意了 torse length
还订了一个 Jade 60的
其实还喜欢一个 REI Flash 65
试过jade 50,背着还行。当时担心backpacking可能容积不够,所以没买
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你背的时候感觉如何?觉得支持系统怎么样?记得回来写使用经验和感觉哦。
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你有多高?Jade 60很大的,其实除了torse length要考虑之外,
包的大小还是要fit个头才好,矮一些的背大包,即使torse length合适,
背上也不如背小包舒服。
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
就是在店里试的,装了20磅左右,就背了几分钟,觉得比较舒服。
不过没买回来
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
5'2。一说这个 fit,想起当时在店里试了一些包,不少就有头大脚轻的感觉,很可笑
:D
看来Jade 60可能背不了啦。只能背小包,买轻小的设备了。。。
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
即使是jade 50,也能装下粗苯的装备,好好arrange一下没有问题,
我那个35L的包都能装下呢,我的装备也不全是轻小类型的。
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
What's the point of getting a lighter and bigger pack and packing extra junk
that you might never use?

to
very
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
REI flash is pretty crappy
k**e
发帖数: 2728
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
怒目而视。。。。。。。。。。。。装饼干吃呗。。。。把backpack当成装饼干的桶。
。。严重的被饼干桶质问语气伤害了。要求版主包子补偿受伤心理。。。

junk
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
haha
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
负重上我倒是没太担心,应该不会超过承重量。就是当时担心体积小了点,以后要用的
sleeping bag,stove。。。全装进去怕够呛。不过应该是我没有arrangement的经验
e**o
发帖数: 5509
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
这个和个性有关吧,有的人就是这样。

junk
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
crappy在哪些方面?
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
做工比较粗糙,材料也很偷工减料。我有一个45L的,背了一次绳子就把post压变形了
,就给退了
c*******k
发帖数: 2427
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
好,那就拔草啦。。。
本来还觉得 REI FLASH 系列简单大方,没啥多余的设计
b**********e
发帖数: 5571
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
我也在看大包,刚把dayhiking的包搞定,这次又要backpacking去了,山妮推荐Jade60
的包,现在看来我的个头不行,我和海豚mm个子差不多,可能骨架还小一些。。。
m***h
发帖数: 23691
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
赞母牛
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
母牛是啥?
m***h
发帖数: 23691
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
吃苦耐劳
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你是说65L的包太大了?背的人是母牛?
我的backpack包比这还大
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你这是bso自己也是母牛?
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
谢谢夸奖,从来没人这么夸我,我这么林黛玉,悸动啊
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你的背包是多少升的,比65的还小吗?
m***h
发帖数: 23691
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你狠!
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
你们两个人共用东西,背两个包非常有优势,我一个人背出了吃的少点,就差不多跟你
们两个人需要的东西一样了
m***h
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
顶多也就是少个帐篷吧
e**o
发帖数: 5509
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
炉子
m***h
发帖数: 23691
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - gregory z65 pack
炉子我背
很轻的
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