N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 1
So you are thinking that holding fiat only to let politicians dilute it
away with endless printing is fair. Holding in gold is not? You can keep
trusting them all you want, I just keep exchanging my USD for silver &
gold. Someone has to be on the other side to take the trade anyway.
What does this phenomenon that people in Zimbabwe traded their food in
gold after their fiat currency crashed tell you? Gold is money. Whenever
politicians screw fiat pretenders up, gold comes back reclaim its statu |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 2 they can only kick the can down the road a bit unless they go zimbabwe
directly
the 2nd half of 2012 could be very bloody, a major low of the general stock
market of this secular bear could be in the make in 2012/2013. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 3
only if US goes zimbabwe
Stock market has been in a secular bear market since 2000
There wont be meaningful growth untill the bad debts are cleaned
injecting liquidity into the system would make all paper assets float
but soon companies would be squeezed by the rising commodity price
leading to another leg down in the stock market
We are in the Kondratieff winter now. |
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e*i
发帖数: 10288 | 4 SPG : Euro
UA/AA/Ultimate Rewards: US $, Canada $
Hilton : Zimbabwe $ |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 5 Victoria
Meaning: Conqueror; victory
Victoria was the Roman goddess of victory, the equivalent of the Greek Nike.
A notable bearer of this name is Queen Victoria who reigned between 1819 -
1901 and is the longest reigning British monarch. Victoria was not a common
name when Queen Victoria was christened, but it has consistently ranked
highly in the UK and US ever since. Victoria is also the name of an
Australian state. Victoria Falls, in Zimbabwe and Zambia, make up the
largest waterfall in the |
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M********4
发帖数: 1272 | 6 RMB chasing Zimbabwe dollars ... |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 7 国际货币基金组织统计，2010年中国人均GDP达到4283美元。
在182个国家和地区中，中国排名95。
按购买力平价PPP计算，2010年中国人均GDP达到7518美元，182个国家和地区中排名93。
Rank Country US$
1 Luxembourg 104,390
2 Norway 84,543
3 Qatar[4] 74,422
4 Switzerland 67,074
5 Denmark 55,113
6 Australia 54,869
7 Sweden 47,667
8 United Arab Emirates 47,406
9 United States 47,132
10 Netherlands 46,418
11 Canada 45,888
12 Ireland 45,642
13 Austria 43,723
14 Finland 43,134
15 Singapore 42,653
16 Belgium 42,596
17 Japan 42,325
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o**y
发帖数: 3065 | 8
哈哈哈。抱歉，忍不住笑了。如果有人当面说这种话我也会当面笑的。如果美国QE2中
国就“has to”增发基础货币，那真成津巴布韦了。
Come on dude. How can you be so ignorant? Debasing the US dollar doesn't
necessarily force China to print more 基础货币, but it will force China to
print more 外汇占款, which is your so-called "hot money". The expansion of
money supply for 外汇占款 will definitely cause inflation in China. This is
common sense. What's it about Zimbabwe? They are just completely irrelevant.
内因：央行独家结汇，外因：热钱流入才是外汇占款导致通货膨胀的来源。如果人民币
自由流通，完全可以象日本那样处理(但是前面的回贴我说了，人... 阅读全帖 |
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M********4
发帖数: 1272 | 9 然后回买卖提吹起薪百万买了个厕所端一碗血红燕窝汤：上下通气不咳嗽。
隔壁正说着呢：
中共“国庆”60周年前夕，最新出版的双月刊外交重磅杂志《Foreign Policy》，刊发
了外交政策（Foreign Policy）杂志编辑部与和平基金会（Fund for Peace）连续第五
个年头的全球“失败国家”2009年排名（The Failed States Index 2009）。中国共产
党领导的中国一举跨入全球“失败国家”行列（前60位），从2008年排名第68位，前进
到2009年的第57位，是世界上唯一成为失败国家的联合国常务理事国。
“ 失败国家排名”（The Failed States Index）是由国际政治的著名刊《Foreign
Policy》联合和平基金会于2005年开发推出的全球失败国家排名（可以简称为“全球最
不适宜人类居住的国家排名”），2009年参与排名的国家总数达到了177个，几乎包含
了绝大多数的联合国成员国（192个）。
2009年推出的失败国家排名中，最失败的国家分别是（第一名到第10名）：索马（
Somalia）、赞津巴布韦（Zimb... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 11
Instead 08 will implement Africa economy in US, that of Zimbabwe to be
specific. hoho. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 12 UhOh, the mastermind behind the engineered sucker rally and the renowned
Zimbabwe school economist man of year Bernanke suddenly looks a lot less
appealing to senators now (just like everything else supported by Obama).
Get ready for another 1000 pts drop if Bernanke's pumping machine got
shut down. All you bulls out there, can you hear me now?
====================================================================
A recent Senate poll of Bernanke support indicates the following partial) results: o |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 13
Where did you learn that kinda economics, Zimbabwe? |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 14
I'm sure you will find a ton of such kinda "黄金机会" if you trade in
Zimbabwe stock market. You guys are hilarious. |
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b*******3
发帖数: 396 | 15 Zimbabwe有stock market？早知道咱们大家都去做空吧哈哈 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 16
Wen is running Zimbabwe economics. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 17
Maybe you should go to Argentina or Zimbabwe to enjoy that hyperflated
growth in stock market. Deflation is exactly what US economy needs and
yet the politicians are too chicken to go w/ it. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 20
I don't know about against other currency since every central bank around
the world is busy trashing their own paper money to gain an upper hand in
the exporting business. This event will go down the history as world
grandest currency suicide ever.
I don't know, I don't care. All I want is to accumulate more gold/silver
as they are still cheap (thanks to central banks' manipulation). |
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C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 21 汇神，您囤积金银实物吧？今年金子有望950吧？ |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 22
I only buy physical. 950 is possible but not on high likelihood. #1 they
have printed too much paper Dollar to suppress gold to that level. #2 a
real shortage of physical gold will cause a CME/LME default on gold and
a price explosion in the near future. Anything less than a Greece melt
down or another Lehman moment will not send gold there, imho. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 24
How much 生产力 is there in Zimbabwe? |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 25
Thou shall not print self a recovery. Doesn't work in Zimbabwe. Ain't
gonna work in China, or US. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 26 Somebody please call Bernanke for a Zimbabwe-QE 2.0 - the last resort to
keep this Ponzi market afloat. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 27
Weimar Republic, Mexico, Argentina and Zimbabwe will send you congrat
telegraphs. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 28 LOL.
Turbo Tax Geithner and Ben Zimbabwe Bernanke, are you listening? Are you
guys watching porn while on duty? |
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w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 29 Haha, here comes NeverLearn again, the ultimate bear.
This is definitely true for Zimbabwe,Argentina,Greece...
And we all know that it will be a miracle if someone can turn this
mess around, if it does happen,there are two and only two
countries in this world can make it happen:
One is USA: It can define the rule.
One is China: There is no rule.
(The western call "China Collapse" for 20 years already..remember?) |
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w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 30 Now it's $4, 10 years 25X?
Possible for a growth stock, not for a giant like Citi
If that happened, it's like C traded at $600 before crisis.
(Well, if the USD inflated like zimbabwe currency, that's another story, LOL) |
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Y****r
发帖数: 3473 | 31 He is not wrong or stupid, he is just trying to mimic reality -- things
happened in real life.
You see those big banks betted on the housing market up before the bubble
burst, if playing by the rules they should all be BK now, instead they got
bailed and through some funny "financial engineering" they are all "making"
big money now (so that the menagement got big rewards)
Guanjiu is just acting like Zimbabwe Ben, nothing wrong with him/her |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 32
hoho, pure Zimbabwe economics. You are hilarious. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 33
All such money printing will send Dollar to zero and US to Zimbabwe. That
is how it 收场. |
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j*****h
发帖数: 3292 | 34 Da Niu:
you are so hilarious, always thinking ahead.
Why don't you move to Zimbabwe now？ This way, you can keep your edge and
always one step ahead.
hahahahahahah |
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k********8
发帖数: 7948 | 35 Guest Post: Plaza Accord 2.0: Is it Coming? Is it Here?
October 15th, 2010 by Michael Krieger
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of
zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
Experience teaches us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the
government’s purposes are beneficent.
Fear of serious injury alone cannot justify oppression of free speech and
assembly. Men feared witch... 阅读全帖 |
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w*****7
发帖数: 5038 | 36 Please look at Zimbabwe |
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R*****d
发帖数: 620 | 37 Zimbabwe is like a living hell. I don't think America would be like that. |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 38 国际货币基金组织统计，2010年中国人均GDP达到4283美元。
在182个国家和地区中，中国排名95。
按购买力平价PPP计算，2010年中国人均GDP达到7518美元，182个国家和地区中排名93。
Rank Country US$
1 Luxembourg 104,390
2 Norway 84,543
3 Qatar[4] 74,422
4 Switzerland 67,074
5 Denmark 55,113
6 Australia 54,869
7 Sweden 47,667
8 United Arab Emirates 47,406
9 United States 47,132
10 Netherlands 46,418
11 Canada 45,888
12 Ireland 45,642
13 Austria 43,723
14 Finland 43,134
15 Singapore 42,653
16 Belgium 42,596
17 Japan 42,325
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g*******d
发帖数: 189 | 39 Yeah, people in zimbabwe cannot even count how much money they have. too
many "0"s... |
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w*********s
发帖数: 2136 | 40 Rothschilds Stage Revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt To Kill Islamic Banks In
Emerging North African Markets
PwP Exclusive ©Feb 9 2011
Background: Tunisia has undergone increasing economic liberalization over
the last decade: In the 2010-2011 World Economic Forum’s Global
Competitiveness Report, it was ranked as the most competitive country in
Africa, as well as the 32nd most economically competitive country globally.
North Africa’s large Muslim populations are a vast business opportunity
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T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 41 "my theory is (not found in any textbook):
GOVERNMENT creates wealth.
Why? they print the money.
Everybody is working for government (or multiple governments)"
There is a good reason your "theory" is not in any text book. Because it is
idiotic.
Printing money does not equal to create wealth. Otherwise no one needs to
work except for those working in the mint.
The more money you print, the less valuable it is. See Zimbabwe |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 42
There's no way to pay a negative real interest and still expect money to
flow into the bond market. You have to ban owning every other asset in
order for that to happen.
But then how do you grow economy if you force money into absolutely the
junkiest asset such as bond. You cannot.
So you see be it QE, OT or whatever US economy is dead. It's not just a
little dead. It's DEAD dead. It's Zimbabwe dead. It's Weimar dead. It's
Banana Republic dead. Only a painful, long over-due reset could fix it. |
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u********e
发帖数: 4950 | 43 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
levart (levart) 于 (Fri Jun 10 17:38:16 2011, 美东) 提到:
今年美国的财政赤字是1.5到1.6T. Debt ceiling is 14.3T.
8,9年前, 美国的财政赤字是6T. 现在长了140%. 可怕的是美国的债务直逼GDP, 今年要
100%了.
这些数字还没有包括给美国公民的自己应该付的债务和其他债务, 加在一起要70 到
100 T.
每天美国的债务以1.5个B增长(这个数字好象是, 不太确定).
三千万美国人是靠政府的食物券生活的, 相当于加拿大的人口了. 快两个北京的人口.
在这种情况下,美国的经济想快速增长很困难, 所以要紧可能的多收钱, 但是又不太容
易拿富人的钱.
怎么办? 有很多措施, 其中一个就是几年前的所谓的OPT延期计划, 绿卡名额没有多,
但是OPT延长到
了2年多. 最后的结果就是大口进, 小口出, 年轻力壮的年轻人在美国交学费学习, 工
作, 但是很少能
留下来. 光外国工人因为不能享受福利, 每年就为美国节省了上... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 44 1. QE is not for stock market. QE is to suppress the interest rate.
2. QE1 maintained low rate from 2009 to 2010. QE2 covered 2010 to 2011
3. So what does it mean when Ben announced low rate into mid-2013?
4. It means he launched both QE3 and QE4 w/o announcing them.
5. Check the M2 supply in the link below. M2 #s tell the truth.
6. W/o the low interest rate the 14T national debt is not maintainable.
7. 1+T new debt every year this decade requires low rate to persist.
8. Then there are c... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 45 1. QE is not for stock market. QE is to suppress the interest rate.
2. QE1 maintained low rate from 2009 to 2010. QE2 covered 2010 to 2011
3. So what does it mean when Ben announced low rate into mid-2013?
4. It means he launched both QE3 and QE4 w/o announcing them.
5. Check the M2 supply in the link below. M2 #s tell the truth.
6. W/o the low interest rate the 14T national debt is not maintainable.
7. 1+T new debt every year this decade requires low rate to persist.
8. Then there are c... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 46
Right, I'm sure Zimbabwe's central bank must be the most "盈利" bank
ever based on your model. You are completely clueless. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 49 deflation is good, it's a way of cleaning the bubbles
depression
after these "disastrous deflation" you named, US still grew into the
#1 economic power instead of going Zimbabwe. |
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V********e
发帖数: 578 | 50
US has never had 80% unemployment rate as Zimbabwe did. There is no
comparison. US eventually will grow out of trouble. It is the matter of how
long and how much cost it is going to take. One thing is for sure---no one wants to go through depression. |
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