M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 1 They don't show any courtesy to the people they doped with drugs and they
come here to lecture you on how your government should do to behave and
follow the international rules. Isn't there an English word called "
hypocrite" for this kind of behavior?
Is being respected a basic human right at all in this planet? |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 2 That's because you guys only stayed in America, and you didn't come to
England. let me tell yah, when I was america, I was as arrogant as you guys;
but after I moved to England, I learned what is courtesy, and I also
learned they weared poppet every autumn until the mid November, to remember
people died in WWI. So I think he didn't do anything wrong, as a leader,
first showing respect to his own people is not a wrong thing; and as for
opium war, I don't think most English people knows about it n... 阅读全帖 |
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N*C
发帖数: 1987 | 3 英国人现在是寡廉鲜耻，基本的礼仪都不讲了，还谈什么courtesy。
凭伦敦市长在奥运会闭幕式上的小痞子德行，英国人没资格讲什么礼仪。
guys;
remember
because |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 4 Oh, yeah. English people has forgotten the opium war and their military
intervention and protection for the drug dealers, that doesn't mean the Chinese
people should forget about it too. It is not the English people alone make
the game rules for the courtesy. We should also contribute to that too. :)
BTW, if your English logic tells you that being ignorant and arrogant after
the courtesy call from another party is showing the respect to another party
, that logic sucks.
guys;
remember
because |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 5 你说了半天，都没说到点子上，
每个国家都有每个国家的风俗，
在英国戴毒品是英国的风俗，
中国也有中国的风俗，印度也有印度的风俗，
风俗互相冲突怎么办？
一个是国际惯例，另一个就是入乡随俗。
身上带毒品是国际惯例吗？不是吧。那就应该入乡随俗，按中国的礼仪来。
出国的外交使节都应该学习当地的禁忌，避免国际纠纷。这是常识。
如果是胡锦涛去英国访问，他们要带毒品随他们便，我们尊重他们的习惯，
客随主便，这个道理你懂吗？
guys;
remember
because |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 6 Well, the best way to remember the war is to learn the lesson. Why opium war
happens? unbalanced trade. What's happening today? unbalanced trade. 屁民卖
苦力做袜子给政治局买飞机，这个版这么多phd难道都是读书读多了不知民间疾苦么，
就知道愤青，从义和团到红卫兵再到你，喊起来一头劲。你如果可以在祖国混的好，干
吗出国？现在别人帮你呐喊你的人权，你倒摆摆手说你不配，老佛爷许才许，我呸。
他山之石，可以功玉，人家说的在不在理我也不跟你辩，但冲人不吊你带他那什么花的
气质也拉你这在异国流浪的新义和团民几条街... |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 7 扯东扯西的，跟前面的讨论什么关系啊？
脑子清醒一点以后再来吧。
war |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 8 You are paid. I will not waste my time with you.
war |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 9 没关系么？还是你们这些人看事情这么的表面，就知道礼仪？都不知道自己说什么就瞎
嚷嚷？ |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 10 I wish I am paid, funny that ppl here use this to avoid arguing.. |
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c*****n
发帖数: 581 | 11 你知不知道，吸食鸦片在19世纪全世界都在盛行，
英国，美国，吸食鸦片都不违法，都没什么问题，
怎么到了中国就这么多问题呢？ |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 13 Because opium was drug to make people become addicted and the Chinese people
knew it back then. Western countries only realized that later on and then
started their laws to forbid it. Can you sell opium in US, UK right now?
Yes, you've got the point actually. Who made the international law? Is it
because it was legal in US, UK and so it "should" be legal in China too?
When China forbade it in 19th century, how come it was considered illegal by
the international powers? And, how come when US, UK ... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 14 说实话英国人身上有许多中国人传统的特质，但也有很多中国人值得学习的东西，我生
在中国的乡村，现住在英国的乡村，感觉两国普通老百姓都是一样的正直善良，又很真
实，相比之下美国人都显得有点假。不要因为人家现在有点破落就挤兑人家，那是暴发
户的行为。当年马尔噶尼见乾隆戳穿了清朝的虚妄，难道历史轮回又是英国人? |
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N*C
发帖数: 1987 | 15 这逻辑太操蛋了。就不能道光皇帝率先意识到了吸毒的危害性？ |
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N*C
发帖数: 1987 | 16 这逻辑也是操蛋，鸦片战争是中国耻辱的开端，鸦片/罂粟也对中国人也有特别的意义。
这么能替洋人着想，为什么不替国人的感受想想？
泛用于
是你自己的自由，但不要到处嚷嚷暴露自己的狭隘。 |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 17 Poppy flower has special meaning in China too. When he visits China, should
he respect the Chinese people too? Lady, you know, this is not narrow-minded
, this is a conflict in power.
When English prime minister wants to make up the mind of Chinese, why can he
do that? How come we can not make up the mind of him? :)
泛用于
是你自己的自由，但不要到处嚷嚷暴露自己的狭隘。 |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 18 Speak the truth, not the dirty words. Using dirty words is showing one is
inferior already and I am sure that is not what you mean.
义。 |
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n*******1
发帖数: 4152 | 19 “ Prior to the 1868 Pharmacy Act which restricted the sale of opium to
professional pharmacists, anyone could legally trade in opium products: by
the middle of the nineteenth century hundreds of opium based potions, pill,
and patent medicines were available to the general public.” |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 20 说你红卫兵你是不是还嫌不够？最烦这些不知稼穑艰难的跳梁小丑，以为自己知道个鸦
片战争就他妈了不起，被人打了就一直哭要喊妈妈吗，你的老佛爷都是宁与友邦不予家
奴的，你又感受啥了
义。 |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 23 不觉得，甚至有时候觉得他们的皮肤像我们一样黄唉 |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 25 Did they even have the decency to write an apology to the Chinese people
after they realized they were protecting the market interest of drug dealers
by invading another country?
, |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 26 话又说回来，要不是鸦片战争人家帮你搞了个香港，现在深圳那地方人有地(dir\)去打
酱油么？我不说那么白省的别人又主子主子的，但你也要搞清自己几斤几两阿
dealers |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 27 Actually my knowledge tells me opium comes from poppy.
See, if we dislike something but the English people like it. We tell them to
show some respect when they come to visit us. They ignore it and then want
to straighten our minds by their rules. Who is there to blame? Can I
straighten their mind too? At least in my home?
This is just playing a game. Either we play as they say or they play as we say. |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 28 Really? In your home you can get access to Mitbbs?
to
want |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 29 No, we need to teach them how to behave. They have become so inferior and
silly and they don't even know how to show respect, we need to teach them
how to do it. :) |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 30 你自个teach去吧，好像当年老佛爷也说要教训教训洋人，宣战的那叫一个爽，后来咋
的咧 |
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n*******1
发帖数: 4152 | 31 鸦片战争是强盗行为，没错。但历史也不完全是教科书上样子。
中国被侵略是上个世纪的事，如今时移事易，大可不比时时以受害者自居，事事敏感
脆弱，好像全世界都在迫害自己。如果这样想，出国又是为了什么？
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 32 下次胡锦涛去德国访问，不妨身上带一个“卐”字标志。要是有德国人抗议，
胡锦涛就可以说：
“卐”对中国人有特别的意义，是佛教的符号，代表好运，“卐”不等于纳粹，
要是有人一看到“卐”就一根筋地联想到纳粹，那是你们自己的自由，
但不要到处嚷嚷暴露自己的狭隘。
我相信这样的访问一定非常成功，非常弘扬中国文化，非常增进中德友谊。
用于
是你 |
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M*********r
发帖数: 50 | 33 You are digressing. I am just saying, when we tell the British PM to show
respect, he refuses and wants to teach China how to behave, frankly, he is
wrong and we should teach him what to do.
To answer your side point, I don't know about you. I came here to know how
the insidious minds bend the rules for themselves and I would learn that and
show them my benevolence and superiority and say, "hey, buddy, learn
courtesy from my country"..... :) |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 36 Sigh, maybe because of the election events in US these two years is a little
like culture revolution of China, that these people also speak this way, 小
学白上了。我们家家教都有不仅要识字，还要识事，说，你爸妈是不是赌鬼？
and |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 37 你从头到尾的讨论没有显示出一点逻辑，非常遗憾。
我也不指望你能看懂这个类比。也不指望你能领会自己的矛盾之处。 |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 38
第一，你把卍等同于纳粹，逻辑何在？
第二，你把藏传佛教用来祈福的符号联系纳粹来伤害你，逻辑何在？
第三，你没见过是你见识浅，藏传佛教用的多。
老胡是无神论者你也能作为理由搬出来？莫非达赖喇嘛去德国戴卍就合理了？
第四，示好？哈哈哈，你下次去德国旅游尽管可以这样“示好”一下，后果自负。
你是真傻还是装傻啊？莫非在英国留学的就这个水平? 笑死人了。 |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 39 ft, 正反话听不出来阿，还说我用那个做理由，漏您尼。不过说到思维，你真得很混乱
，以为自己知道个藏传佛教就了不起，请问你是西藏人么，你家用藏传佛教阿，你阿玛
是小乘的还是大乘的 |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 40 怎么，你又开始混乱地顾左右而言他了？
集中注意力对你来说这么难吗？说两句话就要走神跑题？
你的思维真是不一般的混乱。
我问你的四个问题，你回答了吗？ |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 41 不还是说你读书读傻了贝，吵架又不是做题，你嫌我天马行空你跟不上么，再多10个你
我都毙掉 |
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y****o
发帖数: 3575 | 42 骗子们现在就不要人权和礼貌了。凡对中国不好的他们都会跳出来辩护。 |
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z*****n
发帖数: 7639 | 43 agree。怨妇心态要不得。
泛用于
是你自己的自由，但不要到处嚷嚷暴露自己的狭隘。 |
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l**********r
发帖数: 335 | 44 this is bloody great topic that i can use for my research paper on culture
communication!!!!!!!!!!! fxxx britain.
求。
China' |
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l**********r
发帖数: 335 | 45 is it ok the pork eater wear a pig sign in any muslim or jewish dinner to
showcase the appreciation of pork?
or a gay sign being wear on any church event to proudly express themselves?
求。
China' |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 46 还是可以看出你们受美国种族性别纷争之荼毒，说话都透着戾气。受个屁的教育阿，回
去先学学怎么说话，你家大人没教过你么，中国传统知识分子的谦虚谨慎在哪尼，还是
没读到一肚子书，读了一裤子屎？ |
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k***n
发帖数: 11247 | 47 what does poppy flower mean to the british? |
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h*****y
发帖数: 42 | 48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_poppy
Due to the extent of ground disturbance in warfare during World War I, corn
poppies bloomed in between the trench lines and no man's lands on the
Western front. They were immortalized in the poem In Flanders Fields by
Canadian poet and soldier Lt Col John McCrae. Similarly, it is a symbol of
the blood of Polish soldiers killed in the Battle of Monte Cassino in the
Polish war song Czerwone maki na Monte Cassino (Red Poppies on Monte Cassino
).
The corn poppy... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******e
发帖数: 351 | 49 这根本没有逻辑加胡搅蛮缠，什么时候美国普遍用鸦片了。 |
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h*******e
发帖数: 351 | 50 那天如果几个中国人被英国人秘密杀了，中国政府如果调查的话。你是否会说中国政府
多事，如果不调查，没有几个人知道有人被杀。 |
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